[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Daughter

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You're all ears? Really? OK, lean in close. No, closer. That's it, good. FUCK 
YOU.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I am not trying to steal your thunder, just having a little fun at the expense 
of those who tiresomely raise these faux issues. Perhaps you could be a style 
consultant to Judith, ensuring her chaste but somewhat worldly appearance, so 
that she can continue to play the role she was obviously born for? No more 
saris, but keep the hems down and the collars up. And what a boost for your own 
popularity among the guru bashing subculture.  

 Carry on, please, I am all ears.:-) 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, that DNA testing should be a piece of cake to get wouldn't you think?. 
I'm sure a simple request to Girish and the Srivastava/Varma clan would 
suffice. ;  ) 

 My understanding from a friend yesterday is that there was a generous 
settlement to provide for the daughter and the family's silence. 
 

 I suppose you have it in for the women who are coming forward in the Bill 
Cosby case as well?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 lol - yes, exactly. DNA testing could put all of this to rest in a week, but 
loose talk is easier to sell, especially wrt sex, money, secrets, and spiritual 
masters. Pretty much the ultimate gossip machine, right there.  

 As for those like Judith who probably had a sexual relationship with 
Maharishi, and won't let anyone forget it, the mindset is like some former 
child actors, who had a brief moment in the sun, and now harken back to it 
constantly - "I was Pookie, on 'Who's The Boss'!" - showing up at amusement 
parks and state fairs to milk that long ago moment on television, same haircut 
40 years later, only now dyed a strange orange color. :-)
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Move over Girish, roll over King Tony, we have a hereditary Queen! Long may 
she live!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I received the new, revised edition of Judith Bourque's book Robes of Silk, 
Feet of Clay today with three new chapters and new photos.
 

 I only had time to thumb through it briefly but I did note one of the new 
chapters which goes into some detail about the other women she has heard since 
publication of the first edition who also had liaisons with MMY. One woman of 
note is apparently also about to come out with her own story. There was also 
the news, that was certainly new to me, that MMY has a daughter from one of 
these trysts who lives in the US.
 

 My wife and I know Judith well and she is truly a lovely woman of 
unimpeachable character. 

 

 










  

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Daughter

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yes, that DNA testing should be a piece of cake to get wouldn't you think?. I'm 
sure a simple request to Girish and the Srivastava/Varma clan would suffice. ;  
) 

 My understanding from a friend yesterday is that there was a generous 
settlement to provide for the daughter and the family's silence. 
 

 I suppose you have it in for the women who are coming forward in the Bill 
Cosby case as well?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 lol - yes, exactly. DNA testing could put all of this to rest in a week, but 
loose talk is easier to sell, especially wrt sex, money, secrets, and spiritual 
masters. Pretty much the ultimate gossip machine, right there.  

 As for those like Judith who probably had a sexual relationship with 
Maharishi, and won't let anyone forget it, the mindset is like some former 
child actors, who had a brief moment in the sun, and now harken back to it 
constantly - "I was Pookie, on 'Who's The Boss'!" - showing up at amusement 
parks and state fairs to milk that long ago moment on television, same haircut 
40 years later, only now dyed a strange orange color. :-)
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Move over Girish, roll over King Tony, we have a hereditary Queen! Long may 
she live!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I received the new, revised edition of Judith Bourque's book Robes of Silk, 
Feet of Clay today with three new chapters and new photos.
 

 I only had time to thumb through it briefly but I did note one of the new 
chapters which goes into some detail about the other women she has heard since 
publication of the first edition who also had liaisons with MMY. One woman of 
note is apparently also about to come out with her own story. There was also 
the news, that was certainly new to me, that MMY has a daughter from one of 
these trysts who lives in the US.
 

 My wife and I know Judith well and she is truly a lovely woman of 
unimpeachable character. 

 

 










  

[FairfieldLife] MMY's Daughter

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I received the new, revised edition of Judith Bourque's book Robes of Silk, 
Feet of Clay today with three new chapters and new photos.
 

 I only had time to thumb through it briefly but I did note one of the new 
chapters which goes into some detail about the other women she has heard since 
publication of the first edition who also had liaisons with MMY. One woman of 
note is apparently also about to come out with her own story. There was also 
the news, that was certainly new to me, that MMY has a daughter from one of 
these trysts who lives in the US.
 

 My wife and I know Judith well and she is truly a lovely woman of 
unimpeachable character. 

 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell'

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Republicans Are Legislating Based On Fake Videos. Should Someone Tell Them? The 
House passed a pair of bills related to Planned Parenthood funding and 
"abortion survivors" on Friday. 

 Laura Bassett http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-bassettLaura Bassett, Senior 
Politics Reporter, The Huffington Post
 http://twitter.com/lebassett



 Posted: 09/18/2015 02:52 PM EDT | Edited: 13 minutes ago
 WASHINGTON -- In the second GOP presidential debate Wednesday night, candidate 
Carly Fiorina passionately described a graphic scene from an undercover video 
of Planned Parenthood in which a fetus that survived an abortion waits, its 
"heart beating" and "legs kicking," for a technician to harvest its brain. On 
Friday, House Republicans passed a pair of bills inspired by the same videos: 
One measure would defund Planned Parenthood and another would protect "abortion 
survivors." 
 The problem is, the videos are so heavily edited that they bear little 
resemblance to reality, and the scene Fiorina described doesn't exist.
 She was most likely referring to the video in which Holly O'Donnell, a former 
procurement technician for a biomedical company, talks about having seen a 
fully formed aborted fetus, with its heart still beating, in a pathology lab. 
The video doesn't show any footage from the scene, but instead shows a graphic 
image https://youtu.be/FzMAycMMXp8?t=8m57s of someone holding a small fetus in 
their hands. That image is not an aborted fetus, as the video suggests. Rather, 
it was taken from the blog of a woman named Alexis Fretz 
https://f2photographybylexi.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/walter-joshua-fretz/, who 
miscarried at 19 weeks and posted images of her still-born baby online. 
 The image of the miscarried baby is not the only misleading moment in the 
videos, which were produced by the anti-abortion group Center for Medical 
Progress. Separate conversations are cut and spliced together to appear as if 
they are one line of discussion. Subtitles in the videos do not match the words 
being said. Entire chunks of time are missing from the footage -- even from the 
supposedly full, "unedited" videos that the Center released along with the more 
heavily edited ones.
 A forensic analysis of the videos 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/planned-parenthood-sting-videos-forensic_55df2334e4b029b3f1b1be9f
 found they are so egregiously manipulated that they would never be accepted as 
evidence in a court of law.
 Congress requested the real, unaltered videos 
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/253716-oversight-committee-subpoenas-for-unedited-planned-parenthood-footage
 of Planned Parenthood from the Center for Medical Progress earlier this week, 
but the Center has not yet released them to anyone. Meanwhile, multiple state 
investigations and a federal investigation into the accusations against Planned 
Parenthood have failed to produce any evidence to support the claims in the 
videos. 
 But Republicans lawmakers continue to legislate based on the videos. GOP 
members of Congress screened the videos at a legislative hearing Thursday 
afternoon to support their effort to defund Planned Parenthood, as Democrats 
balked in disbelief. Rep. Frank Pallone (D-N.J.) skewered his GOP colleagues 
once the videos ended. 
 "I just think it's so irresponsible to use this type of material -- false 
material, inaccurate, misleading videos -- to make any case at what is supposed 
to be a legislative hearing," Pallone said. "Yet Republicans are openly 
ignoring the mounting evidence that the videos are fake and continuing to 
legislate based on them."  
 The criticism fell on deaf ears. 
 "They're not doctored," Rep. Brian Babin (R-Texas) said of the videos on the 
House floor Friday morning before the votes. "I daresay none of these folks 
we're hearing from on the other side of the aisle have watched them." 
 "Harvesting body parts, how could anyone defend that?" Rep. Sean Duffy 
(R-Wis.) shouted into the microphone during the emotional debate. 
 The videos, even in their heavily edited form, do not show Planned Parenthood 
harvesting and selling body parts. What they do show is Planned Parenthood 
doctors having frank, technical conversations about abortion procedures with 
actors that are posing as fetal tissue procurement technicians. The doctors 
discuss the modest reimbursements Planned Parenthood is legally allowed to 
receive to cover the costs of donating fetal tissue for medical research.
 One doctor makes an inappropriate joke about wanting to buy a Lamborghini with 
the reimbursements, which amount to a maximum $60 per specimen donated. 
Considering that only two Planned Parenthood clinics in the country actually 
donate fetal tissue, and the $60 fee has to cover the costs of preserving and 
transporting each specimen, it's absurd to think the doctor was serious about 
buying a luxury sports car with that money.
 The Republican effort to defund Planned Parenthood is unlikely to succeed 
anyway. The 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Wooden Idol is about 11,000 Years Old.

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Holy crap, everyone thinks they're a guru now. What utter bullshit.

[FairfieldLife] The rise of Trump-ism

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Best article I've read on Trump:
 

 Donald Trump and the White Nationalists 
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/31/the-fearful-and-the-frustrated

 
 
 http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/31/the-fearful-and-the-frustrated 
 
 Donald Trump and the White Nationalists 
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/31/the-fearful-and-the-frustrated By 
stoking paranoia about immigration, Trump has found a following among far-right 
extremists.
 
 
 
 View on www.newyorker.com 
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/31/the-fearful-and-the-frustrated 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Spoken like a true bumpersticker.

 And if we passed laws outlawing guns, only outlaws would have them.
 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: India ~ Traditional Knowledge Digital Library - Preventing Patenting of Yoga Poses and Traditional Remedies

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Really Doug? How about the vicious suits conducted by the TMO when anyone else 
offers say Vedic Meditation? Legal feud over teaching of transcendental 
meditation technique is anything but peaceful 
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/20/legal-feud-over-teaching-transcendental-meditation-technique-is-anything-but/
 
 
 
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/20/legal-feud-over-teaching-transcendental-meditation-technique-is-anything-but/
 
 
 Legal feud over teaching of transcendental meditation te... 
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/20/legal-feud-over-teaching-transcendental-meditation-technique-is-anything-but/
 The followers of a meditation practice that has roots in ancient India say 
it's simple: Close your eyes, silently repeat a mantra and relax.
 
 
 
 View on www.foxnews.com 
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/20/legal-feud-over-teaching-transcendental-meditation-technique-is-anything-but/
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  
 
 

 

 

 

 I ran in to an academic out in the world at a conference who gets called on as 
an expert witness to testify in legal suits between contending yoga schools. 
These can be viscous suits between people over yoga. The deal is that yoga 
postures are only mentioned in a cursory way in just a couple places in the 
scriptures. ..Someplace in the B.Gita and someplace in Patanjali. But people 
try real hard to achieve legal exclusivity for reasons of money, empires and 
ego. Is good that pro-active government steps in periodically to thwart pure 
business self interest over spiritual/material things that might belong broadly 
to the people.   
 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sh'mita 2015!

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Jonathan Cahn and Alex Jones: a confederacy of dunces if there ever was one. 
How anyone with functioning brain cells can take a word either of them say 
seriously is baffling. Sure, I got hoodwinked by a guru when I was young. But I 
learned from the experience, learned how incredibly easily people can be 
manipulated. Just as Mahesh appealed to our young egos by making us believe we 
were really in on saving the world, these idiots like Cahn get rabid followers 
by appealing to the same ego need to be right there/right now during the 
biblical end times. 

 Michelle Bachman is practically in ecstasy over the whole thing. Michele 
Bachmann’s creepy End Times fantasies: Why the religious right yearns for World 
War III 
http://www.salon.com/2015/08/12/michele_bachmanns_creepy_end_times_fantasies_why_the_religious_right_yearns_for_world_war_iii/
 
 
 
http://www.salon.com/2015/08/12/michele_bachmanns_creepy_end_times_fantasies_why_the_religious_right_yearns_for_world_war_iii/
 
 
 Michele Bachmann’s creepy End Times fantasies: Why t... 
http://www.salon.com/2015/08/12/michele_bachmanns_creepy_end_times_fantasies_why_the_religious_right_yearns_for_world_war_iii/
 The prophets longed to live in this day that you and I are privileged to live 
in, Bachmann said. (Welp!)
 
 
 
 View on www.salon.com 
http://www.salon.com/2015/08/12/michele_bachmanns_creepy_end_times_fantasies_why_the_religious_right_yearns_for_world_war_iii/
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  

 

 

 Interesting 22 minutes but on other youtube videos Cahn goes into much 
 greater detail. Maharishi said Hayum Dukham Anagatum, avoid the suffering 
 before it comes.In regards to prophecy, Christ said I tell you these things, 
 so that when they happen, you *might* believe.

 

 From: hepa7@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 5:42 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Sh'mita 2015!

 
   
 

 Bible Code Predicts Economic Collapse in 2015 https://youtu.be/T5M7NngNW70 
 
 https://youtu.be/T5M7NngNW70 
 
 Bible Code Predicts Economic Collapse in 2015 https://youtu.be/T5M7NngNW70 
Blood moons and eclipses are sensational, but have you heard about the 'Super 
Shemitah'? Best-selling author Jonathan Cahn explains The Mystery of...
 
 
 
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 https://youtu.be/T5M7NngNW70
 
 Bible Code Predicts Economic Collapse in 2015 https://youtu.be/T5M7NngNW70 
Blood moons and eclipses are sensational, but have you heard about the 'Super 
Shemitah'? Best-selling author Jonathan Cahn explains The Mystery of...


 
 View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/T5M7NngNW70
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 


 













 


  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sh'mita 2015!

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Nope, I'm warning people against idiots. An idiot with something interesting 
to say is still an idiot. If you like listening to idiots, have a party!
 

 

 So you're *warning* everyone not to be *warned* because they might end up like 
you, fooled. Personally, I like listening to people with something interesting 
to say and then judging for my self. Cahn has an interesting take on current 
events and links them with prophecies and Biblical Law. Only time will tell if 
he is on to something or not. Unless you have any interest in what he might be 
talking about, you'll never understand a word he says, nor should you.So why 
waste your time. Just focus on not getting fooled again.

 

 


 

[FairfieldLife] Inside the GOP Clown Car

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Inside the GOP Clown Car 
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/inside-the-gop-clown-car-20150812

 
 
 http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/inside-the-gop-clown-car-20150812 
 
 Inside the GOP Clown Car 
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/inside-the-gop-clown-car-20150812 On 
the campaign trail in Iowa, Donald Trump's antics have forced the other 
candidates to get crazy or go home
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish of Sept 23

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Am I interested in the rantings of this rabbi about end days biblical 
prophecies? No, I am not. But that you apparently believe this crap helps 
explains your political comments.
 

 

 Shmita, 2015 big financial collapse forecast,September 28. Shmitah is a 
Biblical cycle of seven years. Last one was 2008, before that 2001. Should 
happen about 29th day of Alul(28th September for those of you from Riolinda) 
Shmitah is a day of reckoning, shaking, leveling of old scores. should be 
pleasant if you're in the will of God. If not, it could be a tough time. If 
you're interested, check out Johnathan Cahn and the year of the Shmitah on 
youtube.

 

 From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:00 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish of Sept 23

 
   
 Sounds like a good day to hide under a rock, shake and be very VERY afraid.
 

 

 


 The astrological indications for 23 Sep 2015 seem to support the likelihood 
of something BIG and BAD happening that day...
 this is from the group SAMVA 

  


 


 


 







 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish of Sept 23

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Run for your life Empty!: 

 Charting the Slow Death of the Universe - GAMA survey releases first data at 
IAU General Assembly http://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1533/ 
 
 http://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1533/ 
 
 Charting the Slow Death of the Universe - GAMA surve... 
http://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1533/ An international team of astronomers 
studying more than 200 000 galaxies has measured the energy generated within a 
large portion of space more precisely ...
 
 
 
 View on www.eso.org http://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1533/ 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish of Sept 23

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 It's the Palin Principle: Say ignorant stuff, slather it with religion, give 
it a great big Loook at Meee, and wait for the cash contributions to flood in 
from eager sect crazies.
 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are These Humans?

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Well you got the floating free part right at least. You'll still be be 
bleating Benghazi every few moments in the afterlife wondering why no one is 
paying attention to you.
 

 

 

 Don't worry Geez ... you'll be floating free and singing Riks in the 
 Anarakshika before it happens. 

However, enjoy the downtime now but it'll will definitely be better if you 
learn to focus on the Upanishad shuti-s since neither you nor anyone you ever 
knew will remember you at all next lifetime. You'd probably end up dark, stupid 
and overwhelmed by your sanskara-s and vasanas if you never actually get it. 

Maybe you should find someone to train you in yogic samkrânti (phowa). Then you 
can realize-awakenwithout doing much practice.



 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :

 Good lord, WTF. I know I've written this before but you really ARE empty Bill! 

 Does Faux News have you all worried and upset little man?
 

 
 Hide message history
 Actually it is worse than the 1950's.

There are Chicago Marxist gangsters in the White House and Alinsky radicals in 
line for the next desk there. We are just waiting for the end of America as we 
know it and the Commissar Bhai to start the North American gulag. It will be 
actually run by the cartels. 

I don't need no stinkun green card! I'm an indigenous peoples! So welcome to 
Atzlan - blanco!
 



 






 
 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish of Sept 23

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Sounds like a good day to hide under a rock, shake and be very VERY afraid.
 

 

 The astrological indications for 23 Sep 2015 seem to support the likelihood 
of something BIG and BAD happening that day...
 this is from the group SAMVA 

  

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are These Humans?

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

These right wing nuts are hysterical. These morons can only speak in the bumper 
sticker slogan-talk that Faux News feeds them. 

 Frightened old little white men. 
 

 

 You otta know. You are are obviously a US PSYOP shill for 'smerican 
 neo-marxists.You proly fish for Alinsky fools on all your forums 'cause you 
 actually work for Hill and Bill.

How's them Rules working out yet? Gottchyer Georgetown McMansion picked out 
once she gets back to the White House? 
  
 The Hillary Letters http://freebeacon.com/politics/the-hillary-letters/ 
 
 http://freebeacon.com/politics/the-hillary-letters/


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are These Humans?

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Good lord, WTF. I know I've written this before but you really ARE empty Bill! 

 Does Faux News have you all worried and upset little man?
 

 
Actually it is worse than the 1950's.

There are Chicago Marxist gangsters in the White House and Alinsky radicals in 
line for the next desk there. We are just waiting for the end of America as we 
know it and the Commissar Bhai to start the North American gulag. It will be 
actually run by the cartels. 

I don't need no stinkun green card! I'm an indigenous peoples! So welcome to 
Atzlan - blanco!
 



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Serious Meditators Group Meditations

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Doug, your answer to the question is you know them when you see them?  I 
don't and I know, or have known, a LOT of meditators. 

 Next question: What are well cultivated serious practicing silent meditators?
 

 

 Geezer asks:  And what, exactly are serious meditators?
 

 Dear Geez, It seems like with other things you know serious meditators when 
you see [sit with] them.  SRF/Yogananda meditators it seems are well cultivated 
as serious practicing silent meditators.  They are gathering for their annual 
'convocation' this month in the LA area.  They gather 5,000 or so meditators 
for their group meditations during convocation.  In Fairfield we will have a 
few hundreds meditating together in the Domes.-JaiGuruYou
 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Right, well this is how most such groups, including of course the TMO, keep 
followers intact and funds flowing inward. Stigmatize any kind of straying from 
the core group.  

 Personally speaking, retting rid of the overt influence of the TMO was one of 
the most freeing things I've ever done in my life.
 

 

 Re: 'Off the program'.  I met a person at the recent Karunamayi silent 
 meditation retreat who at the end of the retreat commented that friends would 
 'freak out' and be quite 'upset' with this person if they knew this person 
 had come to the retreat. There were a lot of people from the greater NYC/New 
 England area from different spiritual practices and movements at the retreat. 
 I asked this particular individual what they meant and how the 'friends' with 
 their spiritual group would 'language' that this person was coming to a 
 meditation retreat and being with another teacher.. (?)
 

 The answer given was there would be a judgment of being “irresponsible” and a 
“failing in completion” of their personal work as taught by their group. The 
young Nityananda has been around the NY metro area for some time and has a 
following there. In contrast this summer this individual went to public 
meetings with Karunamayi and then Ammachi too in NYC. This person has been part 
of the Nityananda group for many years, been to India with them, and has a 
network of long friendships within that group. This person in reflection was 
saying to others at the meditation retreat to have never had a meditation or 
experiences like what was going on with the retreat.  The Nityananda thing 
evidently is not meditative and is a lot psychological.  Evidently a straying 
“off the program” was becoming.. 'Irresponsible' and 'Failing in Completion'. 
..'Off-the-Program'! or an awakening of sorts. 
  -JaiGuruYou
 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

More tomorrow but WTF? I didn't write Fair enougj' below. Who did? 

 Now, about the same old group you say I know about. I kind of know who 
posts. Do I know who lurks? No. And lurking reporters'? What??
 

 

 

 But you know the audience at FFL and they are just the same old group less a 
few who have either retired voluntarily or have been shown the door. There are 
no lurking reporters, Geeze.
 

 Fair enougj
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 More tomorrow but WTF is this? I didn't write Fair Enougj below.
 

 Aside from that, you think I have some kind or cognition about who is reading 
here? Lurking reporters? Jumping to conclusions much???
 

 Let's cut to the chase: should I just keep my opinions to myself?
 

 But you know the audience at FFL and they are just the same old group less a 
few who have either retired voluntarily or have been shown the door. There are 
no lurking reporters, Geeze.
 

 Fair enougj
 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Seriously man, I get a headache trying to untangle your tortured prose. Do you 
actually speak like this? If not, try writing like you speak. Anything would be 
better.
 

 

 Now in looking it is fairly evident that others have come along in to being 
the organizing workhorses of different spiritual movements.  You see many fewer 
TM’ers up front running things at events or in the crowd or on the organizing 
committees.  Other folks coming along of more of a middle-age demographic now 
do more of the facilitating of the spiritual movements and tours.  Also 
compared to earlier times some of the groups now have a more solid showing of 
the Indo-American community culturally showing up and running things in a way 
that was not there so long ago. And there a is now a smattering of spiritually 
lit millennials in the crowds. Times change. -JaiGuruYou
 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 My responses in blue below:

 I see. So unless you have something nice to say about MMY or the TMO, keep yer 
yap shut, is that it?
 

 No, that's not it. Do you actually think I am a supporter of MMY and the 
Movement after all I have posted here over the few years I have been around? I 
am not a detractor of TM and what MMY did in his life doesn't really interest 
me because I never swore my allegiance to him either as  TM teacher, governor 
or any other name you want to give to those who spent a lot more time and 
dedication than I did to The Movement and to him as guru. I don't care if 
people think he's a fraud or that the Movement tight asses are imbeciles and 
power hungry or whatever it is that people think. Others here might just as 
those who are detractors care that people don't necessarily feel the same way 
they do. I did TM, learned the Siddhis and graduated from MIU but I had no 
interest in following MMY or devoting my life to never-ending rounding and 
teaching the technique so if you think I'm someone who can't hear negative 
opinions about it all then you aren't understanding slightly what I have been 
saying for three years.
 

 Where did I accuse you of being a supporter of MMY and the TMO? I get it that 
your experience with both was completely different from mine, and that you have 
apparently little interest in discussions about the negative aspects of both. 
Cool. I'm not writing my very occasional comments here strictly for you. I'm 
writing them for me and for others who might find them useful.
 

 Here's the deal, if you want that perspective you have it in spades with the 
official TMO sites, and, increasingly, what is left of this one.
 

 See above.
 

 This site was created by Rick to provide a place for those with varying 
opinions about their time in the TMO or with TM in general to be able to speak 
freely.
 

 I guess so, I've only been here a short time. I will admit TM and what is 
happening with regard to it or the Movement doesn't interest me in the 
slightest. I'm past all that as of 30 years ago.
 

 Again, that's great for you. I would ask why you would spend your time on a 
site that mostly exists for those who do want to discuss these things.
 

 I, on the other hand, remain interested in discussing a group and its leader 
who I devoted large parts of my 20s and early 30s to serving. Let me put it 
another way: do you find it odd that the alma mater of a university find ways 
to stay connected and discuss their shared experience?
 

 Now, on to your question: Has anyone here actually changed the mind of 
someone, really altered their stance, on anything here at FFL? 
 Hard to believe you are actually serious in posing this but perhaps you just 
haven't been reading FFL long enough or paying attention. 
 Perhaps not long enough, but I've been paying attention. So far, I haven't 
noted anyone having any Eureka experience based on someone else's counter 
argument. I think people have learned some stuff, facts, events or come to 
understand the character of others on the site but actually changing their 
mind, no I have not. You can't even get others to change their opinion about 
whether a book or movie was good or not, let alone their opinion about whether 
God exists or religion is valid or not. 
 Again I have to ask why you then take the time to log on and read posts on a 
site that apparently has so little interest for you? 
  Do I have time to pull out all the examples of folk who have changed their 
perceptions of the TMO or MMY as a result of the information they read here? 
No, someone who has a lot more time on their hands than I do can fill in the 
many blanks for you. 
 But I will give you one. There were many here who found the idea of MMY having 
multiple sexual partners back in the day difficult to comprehend. One of these 
was Judy from what I recall. But as accounts began to pile up and be reported 
here, and as Judy began to learn of more accounts that have yet to be reported 
due to privacy concerns, her feelings about this having happened evolved. 
 But did this change her opinion about MMY? Yes, as a matter of fact it did. 
Did she go from feeling he was enlightened and a holy person to now believing 
he was unenlightened and a fraud? You'd have to ask her that but it most 
definitely humanized him in a not very flattering way for her. I am not saying 
people haven't learned some info on stuff but has it changed their essential 
stance in a major or important way? For some, yes. Have they made a 180 degree 
turnabout? For some, yes. You don't have time to answer that so I will leave 
that question to stand -rhetorical as it may be. 
 There are many more, 100s more examples of people whose perceptions changed as 
a result of what they read here over the years. 
 If you say so. Yes, I say so. 
 If you are really that interested in this go back and read through FFL over 
the years to see for yourself. 
 Not that interested enough to do that. So 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I see. So unless you have something nice to say about MMY or the TMO, keep yer 
yap shut, is that it? 

 Here's the deal, if you want that perspective you have it in spades with the 
official TMO sites, and, increasingly, what is left of this one.
 

 This site was created by Rick to provide a place for those with varying 
opinions about their time in the TMO or with TM in general to be able to speak 
freely.
 

 Now, on to your question: Has anyone here actually changed the mind of 
someone, really altered their stance, on anything here at FFL? 
 Hard to believe you are actually serious in posing this but perhaps you just 
haven't been reading FFL long enough or paying attention. Do I have time to 
pull out all the examples of folk who have changed their perceptions of the TMO 
or MMY as a result of the information they read here? No, someone who has a lot 
more time on their hands than I do can fill in the many blanks for you. 
 But I will give you one. There were many here who found the idea of MMY having 
multiple sexual partners back in the day difficult to comprehend. One of these 
was Judy from what I recall. But as accounts began to pile up and be reported 
here, and as Judy began to learn of more accounts that have yet to be reported 
due to privacy concerns, her feelings about this having happened evolved. 
 There are many more, 100s more examples of people whose perceptions changed as 
a result of what they read here over the years. 
 If you are really that interested in this go back and read through FFL over 
the years to see for yourself. 
 Do I hate meditation? Hardly, I enjoy it and do it every day. 
 Do I dislike the way the TMO often conducts itself? Yes, I do. Will I continue 
to speak up about it when I have the time to spend here and at FFL2? Yes, I 
will. 
 Is that OK with you? 

 

 

  I really think, based on those who post here or used to, that one's 
compulsion 
to continually harp on about the Movement and its dead guru were the ones who 
fell hook, line and sinker for all of it. I am not sure there is one alleged 
fact of what MMY did or didn't do posted here that has not been posted or heard 
about numerous times before. I get it: some will support the Movement and MMY's 
memory in an ongoing way and others will continue to drone on about it 
negatively forever more. I have asked this question once and I will, 
rhetorically, ask it again. Has anyone here actually changed the mind of 
someone, really altered their stance, on anything here at FFL? Did anyone 
saying MMY is a great guy change the opinion of the other guy who says he was a 
fraud? Did the person who holds to their stance that they have had great 
experiences with TM and its founder ever read a negative review here and 
suddenly realize what their experiences were and how they perceived MMY was all 
bunk? I'm thinking I know the answer to that but I could be wrong. Srijau could 
be reassessing everything as we speak based on Geezerfreak's thoughtful and 
studied recent posts.
 


  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

That's totally cool Srijau, if your experience has been all positive. As the 
Aussy's say good on ya! 

 If you are aware of the reality of working closely with MMY, and chose to 
ignore or to accept and not care, then it sounds like all is close to perfect 
for you.
 

 My only point in bringing up life on the other side of the curtain is to let 
people know that what they see on the old video tapes is only half, at best, of 
the reality.
 

 I also have to add that I was one of those who would excuse ANY kind of MMY's 
behavior and attribute divine reasons for it. Did it for years my friend.
 

 Then one day I allowed myself to have the thought that the temper tantrum I 
had just witnessed COULD have been because he was tired and pissed off. That 
the teenage angst I had seen in him  due to a lover having left could be just 
the same as what I felt when my GF in high school left for the singer in a band 
 that it was POSSIBLE that these were all the same.
 

 It was a very freeing experience. YMMV.
 

 none of these claims are news to me and I don't care. Every day peoples 
 behavior gets misinterpreted, all our behaviors are subjects to 
 interpretation. Recently I heard someone say that he asked Maharishi in the 
 early 2000's if he was deliberately slowing the growth of the Movement for a 
 time and he said he replied Yes 
Through Maharishi's teaching I have experienced the Absolute. I have experience 
huge bliss, I experienced many years of continual bliss and other very 
important experiences, I don't have any doubts about the ultimate importance of 
this person and the science does not leave me any doubt either.
 



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I've seen these kinds of comments from R and others over the years. Basically 
it boils down to it was years ago, what's yer problem, get over it! 

 Why is this so hard to understand? We (those of us who were knee deep into the 
TMO during the 70s and early 80s) spent the better part of our 20s and 30s 100% 
committed to the cause. 100%. When others were moving on with their lives and 
starting their professional careers, we were in the trenches, doing our part 
for world peace and whatever else MMY told us to do.
 

 I personally know people in the 108 who lost their entire savings paying 
their way to be there. (NOTHING was given mind you, it was pay as you go.) Once 
MMY knew you were out of money he was done with you. You were of no use to him 
anymore.
 

 Could I say well, that was their Karma, MMY was actually helping them to 
evolve, so what if they're now penniless and stranded? I did, many times.
 

 Did I eventually allow myself to think that he mopped up these peoples savings 
like a sponge and then spit them out? Yes.
 

 Have you seen the recent documentary on Scientology called Going Clear? I 
strongly suggest it for anyone who was ever head over heals into a cult. Does 
it seem strange to you that those who gave their lives over to Scientology and 
got out are still processing what happened to them while in?
 

 Why does it seem so alien to you that those who spent their formative 20s and 
30s in the TMO trenches would still have an interest in what happened then and 
in what is happening now?
 

 

 What's also sort of interesting, Ann, is that for many, over the years, their 
 opinion of MMY and the TMO becomes more and more diminished to the point that 
 he is totally insignificant, but yet, here they are, seven days a week 
 talking about him, and his organization. 

 Maybe Nabby was right, that he was the most important figure in their lives.  
 



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message from jl23234

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Now that's funny Steve. Have you compared the post counts between FFL and FFL2? 

 You're projecting the death of FFL onto FFL2 and that just ain't the way it 
is. You posted there today so you really should know better. Read the posts 
 movie critiques, a lively music discussion with Curtis and a whole lot of 
what made the old FFL, pre Buck/purge, so much fun to read.
 

 Is FFL more or less dead? Yep. FFL2? Just getting started my friend.
 

 Hilarious to read that some here are actually afraid to read FFL2! 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 I would have to agree with the assessment that the fuel that drove the FFL 
engine is petering out. 

 I think it is that way with FFL-2 as well.
 

 The big battles have already been waged.  There's nothing new to really talk 
about, and no opinions or views that are likely to be changed.
 

 And no real interest shown in anything that anybody brings up.
 

 Just some posting of cartoons, or viewpoints that fade rapidly after being 
posted.
 



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Right, I thought not. If you ever actually worked day to day with him you'd 
have a very different experience that included some incredibly banal behavior, 
including temper tantrums, jealousy, obsession with money and a near melt down 
when one of his girlfriends (who flew the coup) couldn't be found. 

 When the lights came on, and it was time to be Maharishi, he played it to 
perfection. That's the guy you apparently are so enamored with.
 

 

 Srijau: I do not have that supreme human good fortune but maybe for me I am 
better off for it; as when the Thunderbird Miigis came to teach no one could 
survive his intense spiritual radiance in human form and he had to leave. 
Likewise according to Judaism we cannot survive in the full presence of the 
Elohim,the energy has to be stepped down a lot for us. There is many still 
alive who had a daily experience of Maharishi and they may be regarded as the 
Most Revered of Living, even if their minds are temporarily clouded.
 



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Me: So you were in Chicago seeing another guru? SO off the program!  And what, 
exactly are serious meditators?

 

 

 You: Well, met several old TM’ers at these meditations too.  Found an old TM 
teacher from San Francisco who was at MIU in Santa Barbara meditating here too. 
  These are long meditations that draw serious meditators to this retreat.  Lot 
of people and a lot of different paths.  New Jersey is far enough rom Iowa that 
there are not so many Fairfield meditators that traveled here.  Not like last 
month in Chicago where there were a few hundred Fairfield meditators at 
Ammachi’s meetings or earlier in the year when Fairfield traveled to be with 
Mother Meera.  
 

 

 

 

 

 Geezer writes: 
 I dunno man, that sounds WAY off the program and hardly Dome-worthy!
 
 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Question Srijau: Did you ever work with MMY, spend real day to day time with 
him?
 

 

 thats more along the lines of if I can imagine anthing negative to say, I will 
say it. Maharishi didnt spend much on himself. He was frugal. He was not 
extravagant. He certainly built an empire of positive ventures to benefit all 
of humanity and that took money to do. We have a tremendous amount to be 
thankful for,, just look at Amrit Kalash, scientists have found so benefits 
from each one of the herbs in it. The research into the benefits of those herbs 
can continue for our lifetimes and beyond. Just one example.
 



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Well put, precisely Mike!
 

 

 No, Maharishi was more likely sheltering his income base. Maybe this is just 
the cynicism in me but I remember someone asked M about owning pets. He said 
they were a *drain*. Naturally everyone took that as that they would *sap* your 
psychic energies or some such nonsense. I eventually realized he meant that 
they cost a lot to keep, feed healthcare etc. Why not spend it on Me, I'll be 
your pet, I'll drain you! 
 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I dunno man, that sounds WAY off the program and hardly Dome-worthy!

[FairfieldLife] Kisses from Turq

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

From FFL2:
 1050It's not the man behind the curtain who is most dangerous
 Expand Messages

 
 
 TurquoiseB
 Jul 27 10:42 PM


 
 It's the people who always knew he was lying about what he was doing and let 
him get away with it who are the biggest losers in this Doug/Buck/Death of FFL 
fiasco.

Buck's just a pissant religious fanatic. We've seen a lot of them come and go 
during the long history of a.m.t. and FFL. True, none of them were as insane as 
Buck, and as willing to go as far as he has in trying to reshape reality to 
make it look more like his fantasies, but we've certainly seen people almost as 
insane as he is before.

What we hadn't seen before The Coming Of Buck was so many ostensibly non-insane 
FFL posters swinging into line and *backing* him in his attempts to take over 
the forum and shape it into something else.

I mean, we could sit over here on FFL-2 and say Shame on you Doug Hamilton 
all day and we know it would have no effect, because he's a crazy person and it 
won't really affect him. But I think some time should be spent saying a few 
other things, because they really need to be said:

Shame on you, Judy Stein.

Shame on you, Steve Sundur.

Shame on you, Ann.

Shame on you, Feste37.

Shame on you, jr_esq.

Shame on you, Edg.

Shame on you, srijau.

Shame on you, Jason.

If you feel bad about what Doug/Buck has done to FFL and to the free speech 
forum it once was, THESE are the people who deserve your scorn as much as he 
does. THESE are the people who piled on and made up excuse after excuse after 
excuse for why it was not only OK but the right thing to do when he banned 
Barry, and then Xeno, and then Michael, and now Curtis. 

Buck is just insane. These people are *dangerously* insane, because they 
allowed their own hatred for Barry and his Thugs to cause them to look the 
other way and allow Buck to do whatever he wanted. Some of them even *knew* 
what he was doing, but for them that was OK because he was doing what THEY had 
wanted to do for years -- Get Barry, And Anyone Who Liked Or Supported Him. 

So yes, we've been watching as Doug/Buck plays The Wizard Of Ooze and runs 
around getting rid of his enemies. And that's dangerous. But far MORE dangerous 
in my opinion are the people who not only allowed him to get away with it but 
took advantage of his bannings to let fly with years of pent-up hatred 
towards Barry and those who liked him. 

The first week after he banned me was like watching a re-enactment of the Two 
Minutes Hate from Orwell's 1984. Instead of Emmanuel Goldstein as the ritual 
hate object, it was Barry. That was an instructive experience for me, watching 
all that hatred come spewing out, like having night vision goggles and watching 
the roaches and the rats crawl out from under the kitchen counters when the 
light goes out. Naturally, I added each of these people to my permanent Do Not 
Read list, but I *do* remember what they said. 

More important -- and the reason for this post -- I remember what they allowed 
to happen, simply because it was happening to people they didn't like. Judy 
made excuse after excuse after excuse for Buck, literally providing him with a 
script he could read from if he felt like presenting a reason why he banned 
me. So did some of the others. And even when he didn't make use of her 
scripts and tried to stonewall everyone, she let him get away with THAT, too. 
But most important, she and others *cheered* when he banned people with no good 
reason, for the simple reason that they DIDN'T LIKE THOSE PEOPLE. 

Buck is insane, and thus dangerous in a world in which free speech matters. 

But people like this are far MORE dangerous, because they piggy-back off of the 
insane fighters against free speech and free spirituality and *cheer them on* 
as they destroy these things. 

THESE are the people I am waiting to hear from over on FFL. 

What Buck is is now beyond dispute. These people can no longer pretend that he 
is acting in any kind of ethical manner. So what are they going to do now?

My bet is that they're going to go silent and stay that way. They'll talk about 
trivia and horses and TV shows and pretend that they not only didn't stand up 
and do something when witnessing the rape of an entire forum -- they actually 
cheered the rapist on.  

Fuck the whole lot of them. They got the forum they deserve...



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proposal: Curtis in exchange for Richard

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I'm sure he'd like to Empty, but Buck has silenced him here.

[FairfieldLife] A last message from Curtis

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

From a message to Barry via FFL2: 

 Hey Barry, Buck man finally got me. He is not letting my posts go though on 
FFL. Here is a swan song post if you wouldn't mind either quoting from or 
posting in full on Alex's site: 

Here is my post of what happened: End of an era for sure. Buck finally got me. 
I haven't posted since he became the supreme Assatolla owner, so he must have 
but me on moderation status as soon as Rick handed him he reins. I tried to 
post yesterday but it didn't go through. Interestingly Alex tried to send me an 
email about my status and that didn't show up on my Yahoo email account either, 
so I must be on some sort of super lockdown status. Thanks to Alex for letting 
me know what happened because Buck in his usual cowardly way didn't say a thing 
to me or inform me that I am being moderated. I really appreciated his taking 
the extra step of tracking me down on a personal email.

My posts since Buck took over have been carefully measured to not include 
profanity or anything that could conceivably violate the Yahoo standards. I 
wanted to see if Buck would reveal himself for what he is and he did that. My 
post was a challenge to his claim that he was using Rick as his model for 
dealing with people. Buck: I appreciate the precedence of quick summary 
judgment exampled by Rick before in his handling of folks who fell outside of 
bounds of propriety.

This is not true and I said so. He is moderating according to his personal 
taste on people's POV and he is being dishonest about it. He adhered to none of 
Rick's requests to moderate transparently and fairly and not as his freakish 
persona creepy Buck character. 

From the beginning of his taking over moderation status many voices rose up in 
protest knowing what was to come. Some foolishly claimed that the people he 
bounced deserved it for one Yahoo offense or other. But my posts being 
cancelled this way are a clear example of his agenda to rid the site of anyone 
who would challenge his misrepresentations, even without cursing him out. Buck 
represents the worst of the movement that I left so many years ago. FFL used to 
represent the best of my association with creative, interesting people in and 
out of TM. Many thanks for the great times sorting out my feelings about the 
movement through the years. My friends know how to stay in touch.  Thanks to 
Alex for creating a site that continues the spirit of FFL and to Barry for 
posting this. Curtis

Chat Conversation End



 
 

[FairfieldLife] In case you were wondering what Buck did to Curtis's posts .... [1 Attachment]

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Here's a message that Field Marshal Doug/Buck deleted from FFL. 
 

 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Curtis brother, as usual you have hit nail squarely on the head here. I've 
never had the time to contribute anywhere remotely as much as you and so many 
others here have. 

 But these past few weeks I've observed with horror what Rick has apparently 
allowed to happen to what was once a vibrant place for (often) intelligent 
debate among those who had committed various parts of their lives to what we 
called the Movement.
 

 I honestly cannot recall a single post of Doug/Buck that made me excited and 
enthused for having read it. However he has made it his feelings for the 
apostates of the TM movement crystal clear. His word, not mine btw.
 

 The weird thing is, Doug/Buck isn't even clever enough to cover his tracks, or 
try to engage in any kind of intelligent debate with this crusade against the 
fallen. No, he just repeats his mind numbingly dumb mantra about Yahoo Group 
Guidelines. 
 

 He clearly can't even process my bit of snark about Poland being his next move 
fer chrissakes!
 

 This is precisely what happens when the captive becomes the captor. 
 

 He tells you to quietly read the guidelines Curtis. Really? Why not just say 
there, there Curtis, are we experiencing some roughness of awareness today'? 
This shit is so engrained in Doug he can't even recognize the blatant 
condescension!
 

 And he sure as hell can't fathom the hypocrisy that so many are pointing out.
 

 Doug is making a perfect case for what happens as a result of a near lifetime 
spent in cult think.
 

 How do I know? Because like you and so many others Curtis, I've been there. 
I've been Doug. (Well not exactly, I honestly don't think I ever lost the 
ability to laugh at myself or  the movement. As I've recounted before here I 
did make my tie float in one of the first attempts at group flying. We were 
in chairs. 'Tis true!)
 

 I keep thinking that Rick will put a stop to what is quite clearly the 
unraveling of FFL. Just look at the post counts for proof! The place has become 
dull, aside from those posting about the takeover. Who wants to read about the 
latest art walk or local flower show? I don't.
 

 Or maybe, as some have speculated, Rick is just letting Doug hang himself. Or 
maybe he feels that FFL has ceased being relevant so he put Doug in charge to 
make a rapid death certain.
 

 I really don't know but I for one will miss the lively discourse that used to 
take place here.
 

 

 I have long appreciated a lot of the content of what these recently fallen 

 

 Me: 
Fallen? Condescending much? You got the power to slip them the mickey and you 
did it. Nobody fell anywhere you just took advantage of the situation to suit 
your personal whim. They insulted you and called you out so you got them back. 
You have a real taste for this power now don't you?

 

 Buck:

 had provided however it is unfortunate how they conducted themselves as they 
had in posting. As much as some here may assert that moderation here is 
something personalized about content but active moderation here is simply about 
alignment with the Yahoo-groups guidelines within a yahoo-group as folks write 
and contribute to the community here.
 

 Me: This is completely bogus, we had no problem with yahoo, you made this up 
for your power grab so you could impose your personal taste on the site which 
you begged Rick to let you do for YEARS.
 

 Buck:Take a moment to quietly re-read the yahoo-groups guidelines. They are 
quite reasonable and well thought by Yahoo as guideline for communal 
membership. 
 

 Me: quietly? Do you know that you are speaking to adults here? It doesn't 
matter how quietly we all re-read them none of it means what you are distorting 
them into. They are purposely vague guidelines, open to personal interpretation 
and most importantly, never enforced on this group until you hide behind them 
to allow you to impose your personal views on other adults who you condescend 
to by talking to us as if we are children who need your correction. You have 
never shown up here in an authentic way or generated a full paragraph of 
content that was worth my time to read. 
 

  People who have Fallen and an instruction to re-read irrelevant unenforced 
guidelines quietly are two words that reveal you here. I am very familiar 
with this mentality from my time in the movement and you are not fooling me 
with this routine. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 -JaiGuruYou
 https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm 
https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm
 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 This Geezerfr quip is hilarious in its way. Poland? I had no thought of 
extending the civilizing influence of these yahoo-groups guidelines over to 
other groups. I serve simply as a moderator of Yahoo-groups guidelines here at 
Rick's pleasure. Conceivably I could be invited in to other yahoo-groups like 
over at The_Peak to help bring some greater inclusiveness and civility to 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The hypocrisy on your part here is breathtaking Doug/Buck. What's next for you? 
Poland?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The hypocrisy from Doug/Buck is breathtaking. What's next from you, Poland?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Let's vote -- let's just see who wants Rick no rick keep Doug.....

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Dump Doug.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? -- Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You: What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer?

Rick -- YOU'RE RUINING YOUR REPUTATION FOR BEING A RIGHTEOUS DUDE.  You've put 
a person in charge here that is running the joint like a Mafia extortionist.   

 The muzzle is that we don't know what amounts to a punishable infraction.

THIS IS PURE TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION ORGANIZATIONAL POLICY AS TAUGHT TO ALL 
OF US BY MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI.

FFL posters are being kept afraid and in the dark.  We're not told JACK SHIT.  
We never get to see our manila folders.  You don't know what anyone is 
thinking about you or is beginning to think...errors are not allowed to be 
sussed out.   Is Doug almost ready to dump me?  I DON'T FUCKING GET TO KNOW!

When I went into a private meeting with Maharishi, he penciled next to my 
photograph on the paper he held no beard now.  SEE?

SEE FUCKING SEE?   I spent EIGHT MONTHS ON TEACHER TRAINING and I could have 
lost all that time and money if I'd kept my beard.  THAT'S FRAUD.

Try to get the Course Office to explain who gets a field badge and who doesn't.

SAME DAMNED FUCKIN' SHITASS POLICY.

THIS IS PURELY ABUSIVE AND CONTROL FREAK SHIT.  

And you ask us what we have for a bitch?  That question too is worthy of 
condemnation -- it shows you don't have a fucking clue or are mindfully 
ignoring an issue like a redneck saying rebel flags iz good.

My next action step is to confront Rick personally if he doesn't pony up here 
with a BIGASS explanation for allowing Doug to moderate any longer given how 
personally Doug is applying the guidelines.   Seriouslyfirst private emails 
and then phone calls.  Rick -- you owe me, you owe us, you owe your own 
integrity to fix this problem quickly.  I have been a great fucking friend and 
supporter, Rick -- don't sand bag us on this.  This is a deal killer.

Me: Precisely. It IS a deal killer on all things FFL to me. I always thought it 
was a free speech zone for those who had been involved in the TMO. When that 
changes (and it appears that it has) then it becomes dead to me.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Alex:  Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried 
out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. So far, this 
experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an 
Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end 
result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free 
Speech group.

 

 Me: 100% agree Alex. I looked in late last week as part of my 
once-every-few-months look and was appalled to see what is going on. Turq was 
ALWAYS an interesting and entertaining poster, only rivaled by Curtis IMO. And 
now this guy Buck/Doug is running roughshod on the group deciding who is 'on 
program' and who is not? Fuck that, that is EXACTLY the kind of TMO bullshit 
that drove me from the organization in the first place.
 

 Rick, you once told me that Doug was really a great guy when I complained 
about his Buck persona to you privately years ago. I'm not in a position to 
know what kind of guy he is, great or otherwise, but he is so clearly a fucking 
joke of a moderator. Seriously, Rick are you kidding me? Unless you yourself 
have gone insane I refuse to believe you think Doug is the man for this job. 
Say it ain't so Rick!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Let's vote -- let's just see who wants Rick unseat Doug.....

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

A giant thumbs down on Doug.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You: says the one post a month, twelve posts a year, guy
 

 Me: That's correct. You got a problem with that or are you saying that that 
the amount of posting gives you Chit credit for the worth of your opinions? 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Bruce Jenner on Vanity Fair

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Dayumn! Pretty enough to be escorted into Maharishi's bedroom. A few minutes 
later, the skin boy standing outside hears a high pitched what is this?
 

 That's fookin' funny Mike!

[FairfieldLife] World Government, Special currency, Scorpion Nation UK, .... this interview has it all

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

See ‘Going Clear’ star Hana Whitfield describe L. Ron Hubbard in a leaked 1997 
interview « The Underground Bunker 
http://tonyortega.org/2015/04/23/see-going-clear-star-hana-whitfield-describe-l-ron-hubbard-in-a-leaked-1997-interview/
 
 
 
http://tonyortega.org/2015/04/23/see-going-clear-star-hana-whitfield-describe-l-ron-hubbard-in-a-leaked-1997-interview/
 
 
 See ‘Going Clear’ star Hana Whitfield describe L. Ron Hu... 
http://tonyortega.org/2015/04/23/see-going-clear-star-hana-whitfield-describe-l-ron-hubbard-in-a-leaked-1997-interview/
 Hana Eltringham Whitfield was one of the stars of Alex Gibney’s documentary 
about Scientology, Going Clear. 
 
 
 
 View on tonyortega.org 
http://tonyortega.org/2015/04/23/see-going-clear-star-hana-whitfield-describe-l-ron-hubbard-in-a-leaked-1997-interview/
 
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[FairfieldLife] Again, compare and contrast

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Secrets of the Scientologists: Why people do horrible things for belief 
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/17/secrets_of_the_scientologists_why_people_do_horrible_things_for_belief/?source=newsletter

 
 
 
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/17/secrets_of_the_scientologists_why_people_do_horrible_things_for_belief/?source=newsletter
 
 
 Secrets of the Scientologists: Why people do horrible th... 
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/17/secrets_of_the_scientologists_why_people_do_horrible_things_for_belief/?source=newsletter
 Going Clear gives a glimpse into how indoctrination really works. A 20th 
century tragedy reveals even more.
 
 
 
 View on www.salon.com 
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/17/secrets_of_the_scientologists_why_people_do_horrible_things_for_belief/?source=newsletter
 
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[FairfieldLife] Hubbard/MMY

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

For those of us who around MMY this should sound familiar:

Mike Goldstein - L Ron Hubbard's Financial Controller - Secret Lives - 
Scientology - Dianetics https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=80v=uRobtr3O_uA 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=80v=uRobtr3O_uA 
 
 Mike Goldstein - L Ron Hubbard's Financial Control... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=80v=uRobtr3O_uA Mike Goldstein - L Ron 
Hubbard's Financial Controller  Sea Org Member. Appointed FBO Dictator 
Secret Lives Scientology - Dianetics. Thi...
 
 
 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=80v=uRobtr3O_uA 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  

 

[FairfieldLife] Sat Night Live does Scientology

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

When will they take on the TMO?
 

 Saturday Night Live’s genius spoof of Scientology: Lyrics and images « The 
Underground Bunker 
http://tonyortega.org/2015/04/05/saturday-night-lives-genius-spoof-of-scientology-last-night-lyrics-and-images/

 
 
 
http://tonyortega.org/2015/04/05/saturday-night-lives-genius-spoof-of-scientology-last-night-lyrics-and-images/
 
 
 Saturday Night Live’s genius spoof of Scientology: Lyric... 
http://tonyortega.org/2015/04/05/saturday-night-lives-genius-spoof-of-scientology-last-night-lyrics-and-images/
 A very happy Easter to our readers, whether you celebrate the holiday or not. 
 
 
 
 View on tonyortega.org 
http://tonyortega.org/2015/04/05/saturday-night-lives-genius-spoof-of-scientology-last-night-lyrics-and-images/
 
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[FairfieldLife] Meet the CC Kids from $cientology

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I shit you not, that's really their name. I warn you the creep factor is mega 
high. As the author says at the end: Have fun trying to sleep tonight. BYEEE.
 
http://www.pajiba.com/miscellaneous/did-you-know-the-church-of-scientology-started-a-kids-pop-group.php
 
http://www.pajiba.com/miscellaneous/did-you-know-the-church-of-scientology-started-a-kids-pop-group.php

  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Notes from a viewing of Going Clear

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Highest rated Documentary in 9 years . Plenty of people saw it Bhairitu and 
plenty more will: 

 'Going Clear' Was The Most-Watched HBO Doc In 9 Years 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/31/going-clear-ratings_n_6979596.html 
 
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/31/going-clear-ratings_n_6979596.html 
 
 'Going Clear' Was The Most-Watched HBO Doc In 9 ... 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/31/going-clear-ratings_n_6979596.html 
Plenty of America found out what it's like to be an operating thetan on Sunday 
by tuning in to HBO's premiere of the Scientology documentary, Going Cl...
 
 
 
 View on www.huffingtonpost.com 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/31/going-clear-ratings_n_6979596.html 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  

 

 

 

 Unfortunately HBO didn't make it available on their YouTube channel and I'm 
 sure no one if they still have cable will want to sign up to HBO if they 
 don't have it.  And in the good ol' US if you just have basic cable you can't 
 have HBO unless you sign up for the cable network tier too which usually adds 
 40-50 dollars to the bill.  Plus HBO is 15-20 dollars a month.

Nor in the US risk a visit from the FBI if they download it from some 
questionable website.   Maybe it'll get released to Redbox someday but the 
Scientologists will probably go to those kiosks, rent it out and not return it 
so you can't rent it. I'm sure it will be available on HBO Now when it launches 
next month but that will only be viewable if you have an Apple TV box until 
July.  

 


 
 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of Going Clear

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Excellent synopsis Barry, thanks! Here's a section of an interview with Alex 
Gibney and Lawrence Wright with a few added points that should give long time 
TMO folk (or ANY cult member) pause. Particularly note the importance of 
amassing real estate holdings:
 The rally where David Miscavige announces L. Ron Hubbard’s death is 
particularly amazing.  

 Gibney: He never uses the word death, because of course it’s not a death! LRH 
has left his body — he no longer needs his body.
 The crowd’s response is remarkable as well: They start off nervously laughing, 
and then end up cheering, not even recognizing the absurdity of what Miscavige 
is saying.  
Gibney: One of the reasons I structured the film the way I did is to show that 
Scientology is evolutionary and immersive. If you’d walked in out of the street 
and saw that speech without having gone through the process, of course you’d 
react cynically. So we waited until midway through the film to show that 
footage to give viewers a sense of how it might feel; by then, you have to 
become immersed, and when you do, things change for you.
 The movie touches on it briefly, but what is the principle behind 
Scientology’s drive to amass real estate holdings, not only in the U.S., but 
also overseas?
Wright: The Scientology ideal is to “clear” the planet, which means bring 
awareness to people all over the world. Their strategy, in part, is to create 
these extraordinary buildings [in historic areas] that have been elaborately 
refurbished inside. They’ve done this in Times Square, Hollywood, and Music Row 
[in Nashville], and the same thinking applies in Europe and even in Israel. 
There was a scandal in Israel several years ago where the church had acquired a 
historic building in Jaffa [that burned in a suspected case of arson 
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/future-scientology-center-in-jaffa-burns-police-suspect-arson-1.318737].
  
 Distilling the book into a two-hour film naturally resulted in a lot of 
material being excised. What sections did you most regret having to leave out?
Wright: I wish we’d been able to explore the role of children in the Church a 
little more deeply, especially those who join the Sea Org when they’re really 
young and sign away their lifetime, or however many lifetimes fit in a billion 
years. They lose their education, they are impoverished and when the time comes 
later in life when they decide they’ve had enough and are going to walk away, 
they have to leave their families behind. That’s the fate of those children if 
they decide they’ve made a mistake. No child should be allowed to make a 
fateful decision like that. In talking to some of these children, it’s very 
clear to me that the Church has been in violation of child labor laws. Where’s 
the enforcement? I find that very shocking, and I wish we had had a little more 
room to explore some of those stories. It’s not as if some of the celebrities 
don’t know about it, because there are pages that attend to Tom Cruise and so 
on. Does it ever occur to Tom Cruise, “Why isn’t this child in school? Where 
are his parents?”
 In addition to being an exposé into Scientology, Going Clear is also an 
account of the past thirty years of Hollywood history. As the film makes 
apparent, so many contemporary movie stars like Cruise and Travolta, as well as 
filmmakers like Paul Haggis, emerged from within the city’s Scientology 
community.  
Gibney: I think what Scientology discovered is that the real religion of 
America is celebrity. If they could hitch their wagon to that star, things 
would turn out a lot better for them. They had a kind of recruiting system, 
particularly through [stage director and acting teacher] Milton Katselas’s 
acting class http://www.nytime/. Actors, often by professional need, are 
sometimes very needy and insecure, because they have to be open. I think that 
it was also smart from an institutional perspective to be able to recruit 
people by saying, “You need a part, and we can help you get that part.” So 
Scientology has had a formative role for many people, but there are also a lot 
of powerful people in Hollywood who I think were scared by Scientology, because 
it had in its stable some very powerful people. It was very difficult to buck 
that if you wanted to work with those people, particularly actors, because 
actors are the coin of the realm when it comes to movies. If you want to get a 
script made, then you have to attach a major star.
 'Going Clear': Alex Gibney and Lawrence Wright BringTheir Scientology Doc Into 
Focus 
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/alex-gibney-and-lawrence-wright-bring-going-114601615525.html?soc_src=mailsoc_trk=ma

 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of Going Clear

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Happened to me too Barry, as you know. 

 Fascinating also to see the various monuments to Elron around the world, as 
well as the him posing for an artist bust in clay.
 

 Monumental (literally) ego of the leader leads to monuments made to said 
leader: check
 

 Large real estate holdings become critically important as cult membership 
dwindles: check
 

 We, and we alone, are the only salvation for planet Earth: check
 

 If planet Earth is not saved, it's YOUR fault: check
 

 Those who don't believe as we do are categorized as Wogs or non-meditators: 
check
 

 Those who express doubts or question the fundamentals are excommunicated: check
 

 I could go of course, but the point is that this can happen to anyone. It 
happens slowly, over time.
 

 Imagine if in TM we were told in our intro lecture that those who want to 
delve deeper into the practice will learn to fly', walk through walls, etc.
 

 Imagine if in TM we were told in our intro lecture that our mantras literally 
are the seed form names of vedic gods and that when completed (advanced 
techniques) we would literally be saying: Most glorious Saraswati, I Bow Down 
To You Again and Again. (Saraswati used here as an example.)
 

 Nope, we learned how to soft sell it in the intro lecture, knowing full well 
that we are lying through our teeth. Those who bring new recruits into 
$cientology learn to do the same.
 

 

[FairfieldLife] Director Paul Haggis on Scientology belief mechanisms: sound familiar?

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Haggis is responding to Scientology attacks on him in advance of HBO's 
documentary scheduled to air Sunday at 8pm:
  
Despite what is being said in their rather pathetic attack pieces on me, I was 
very involved in Scientology for most of my adult life. While I thought the OT 
levels madness, I used many Scientology precepts in my daily life — so much so 
that it took several years after leaving to actually question the many 
“self-help” concepts that I had learned and used. The slow indoctrination 
process is as subtle as it is dangerous — largely because you truly believe 
that you are thinking for yourself, when in fact you are discouraged to do 
anything of the sort.
 Paradoxically, there is great pride in belonging to a stigmatized group. It’s 
like being in love with a narcissist. All your friends will warn you that you 
are just being used. You understand why they think what they think, but you 
believe in your heart that they just don’t see what you see. You just tune them 
out. For that reason, when I did discover what many outside the church knew, I 
was truly shocked. While some of the information had been out there for many 
years, like all Scientologists, I refused to look. Yes, I was told not to, but 
I didn’t have to be. This was my group and I knew there to be many people in 
the world who were bigoted and close-minded, and when I was told that we were 
“under attack” in Germany or France or wherever, instead of looking for the 
reasons, I assumed this to be the case — and donated many thousands of dollars 
toward our “defense.” Yes, there was considerable duress involved in those 
“donations,” but if I didn’t honestly believe what I was being told I would not 
have handed over such large sums.
 It makes little or no sense in retrospect, and it’s very hard to understand 
unless you’ve been a part of a marginalized group. While I was a constant thorn 
in the side of the executives, questioning practices I thought unjust, it never 
crossed my mind to voice my concerns outside the organization. In fact, even 
after I sent my letter of resignation I maintained a great fondness for “the 
old man.” Yes, he was a rogue, and he might have gone insane later in life, I 
thought, but I still believed he had put together a pretty workable system for 
steering through life. Even then. I might have been outraged by injustices I 
witnessed or heard about, but I dropped the blame at the doorstep of David 
Miscavige and company. Miscavige, I later discovered to my amusement, never 
liked or trusted me — in his eyes I was a bad Scientologist — which I admit 
myself. I was told he was angered that I wasn’t “deferential enough,” and I 
asked too many questions, even if internally.
 Too many, and as it turned out, not near enough.
 It took years after leaving to understand that these practices I railed 
against had always been at the core of Scientology — that Miscavige was just 
very faithfully, if cynically, following L. Ron Hubbard’s cruel playbook. The 
reason this was hard to believe is exactly because of the duplicitous nature of 
Hubbard’s writing. He wrote tomes on the practice and necessity of critical 
thought; how nothing should be accepted at face value. His “ethics formulas” 
stress that when making a difficult decision you have to push aside all 
personal bias and truly look at what people are doing, not just what they are 
saying. “Look, don’t listen” is oft repeated advice — but it is advice given to 
the blind. All these high-minded teachings are useless when you factor in the 
thing you are never allowed to question — Scientology, its teachings, practices 
and leadership.
 Somehow Scientologists are able to accept those incongruous and contradictory 
thoughts. For example, they truly believe that only Scientology can save the 
world, and that they are making major strides in this direction every year. 
They hold onto this belief despite the fact that there isn’t even a modicum of 
evidence that they are having even the tiniest impact on any problem in any 
part of the globe. Scientologists simply accept the assurances of the church 
leaders that it is so. To the contrary, volumes of compelling evidence from 
unimpeachable sources that their organization has done and is doing serious 
damage to thousands of people is dismissed before it is ever inspected.
 That’s what will happen to Going Clear. At least that’s what the church hopes 
happens. Without even watching it my former friends will condemn it as lies. 
You see it happening already. Understand that many of these Scientologists are 
damn smart people; many of them truly lovely and caring. But they are the same 
people who will not hesitate to cut their closest friend or family member out 
of their lives if they commit the ultimate crime of criticizing the church. You 
could do anything else and they would stand by you; commit any crime and they 
would be there to defend you. But not this.
 I believe this is because somewhere in the back 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Director Paul Haggis on Scientology belief mechanisms: sound familiar?

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Awesome, thanks Barry. I knew the tune, but did not know the complete story 
behind it!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More news on that other cult

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yes, as I wrote, I got the full tour. These are good arial views of the whole 
shebang: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Base 

[FairfieldLife] Re: More news on that other cult

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ahhh, so it's all about WillyTex. Go figure!

[FairfieldLife] Re: More news on that other cult

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yes, there it is, the good ship, ahem, Star of California.

[FairfieldLife] Re: More news on that other cult

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Not to mention the shunning that goes on when we decide to move on from the 
TMO.  I seen many parallels between the TMO and $cientology, always have. Is 
$cientology abuse a BIT more overt? Yes. Are the underlying thought processes 
and cult-think quite similar? Yes. 

 BTW, I actually was given a tour of what $cientology calls Gold Base out near 
Hemet, CA many years ago. Their production entity called Golden Era Productions 
was buying shit loads of a product I was working with and I decided to pay a 
visit one Saturday. I had no idea who I was dealing with other than that the 
contact guy was named Steve Marlow. When I rounded the last bend of this road 
in the desert and saw a three masted schooner sitting in the sand I knew it was 
Scientology. I got to the gate and asked for Steve Marlow. The person in full 
naval regalia said: You mean ADMIRAL Marlow??  I decided then and there to 
play dumb, deliver the goods, get the tour and get out of there.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Let's charge 47 Republican Senators with treason and execute them

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You need to step up to the size XLL tin foil hat Mike.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Let's charge 47 Republican Senators with treason and execute them

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

BTW, I play golf with Marines at Camp Pendleton every single weekend I'm home. 
I've yet to meet ONE who doesn't favor negotiation over war. And I've yet to 
meet ONE who doesn't believe that our invasion of Iraq wasn't an unmitigated 
disaster. 

 Know what phrase I hear frequently? Some variation on the send the 
politicians over to fight these wars they start theme.

[FairfieldLife] Sound familiar?

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Reading this report about Alex Gibney's new documentary about Scientology:
 

 'Going Clear' Documentary Source on How Scientology Sees Tom Cruise as 
Useless 
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/going-clear-filmmakers-on-how-scientology-sees-112785717887.html

 
 
 
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/going-clear-filmmakers-on-how-scientology-sees-112785717887.html
 
 
 'Going Clear' Documentary Source on How Scientol... 
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/going-clear-filmmakers-on-how-scientology-sees-112785717887.html
 The filmmakers behind the upcoming Scientology documentary 'Going Clear' 
describe how the church's rank-and-file members really feel about celebrities.
 
 
 
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 This passage struck me:
 
 However, Ortega noted, “I think the problem Hubbard got into is, if you read 
Dianetics, it makes the promise that it should only take 20 hours to become 
clear, and once you become clear, you’ll be impervious to illness, you’ll have 
perfect recall, basically you’ll become superhuman. People bought this book 
like crazy in the summer of 1950, he realized it was a gold mine and … he ran 
into this problem where people would do all the steps and not become 
superhumans. So he’d add another level and another level. I think it kind of 
got away from him at a certain point, and he needed to keep people on that 
hamster wheel.
 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Benny Nutty Yahoo's Hijinks

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Mike, you are out of your fucking mind. Where on earth did you come up with 
this nonsense? Faux news? Or worse?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Fw: Fwd: Very Disturbing Information

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Before getting your panties in a bunch over internet chain letters, try 
searching Snopes first Bill. It will save you a lot of heartburn: Central 
Islamist Agency http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/brennan.asp 
 
 http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/brennan.asp 
 
 Central Islamist Agency http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/brennan.asp 
Rumor: Director of the CIA John Brennan is a Muslim who converted to Islam 
while stationed in Saudi Arabia.
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] The Maharishi Effect

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Rs 60,000 crore fortune faces battle between two groups 
of followers : NATION - India Today 
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/maharishi-mahesh-yogi-rs-6-crore-fortune/1/201925.html
 
 
 
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/maharishi-mahesh-yogi-rs-6-crore-fortune/1/201925.html
 
 
 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Rs 60,000 crore fortune face... 
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/maharishi-mahesh-yogi-rs-6-crore-fortune/1/201925.html
 Just four years after his death, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Rs 60,000 crore 
fortune is at the centre of an ugly battle between two groups of followers.
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Curtis! 

 I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 6 months 
or more.
 

 I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can someone me the 
short story of what happened?
 

 More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the 30th, having 
been clued by several people that it was taking place.
 

 Your summations of the event remind me of why I occasionally liked to poke in 
here. And now with your latest observations above on MMY's early discourses, 
all I can say is bravo and nail hit squarely on the head.
 

 Any new recordings of yours I need to know about brother Curtis?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 (Ask someone who claims to be enlightened their experience of burning off that 
last bit of sanchita karma and the extinguishing of the causal body. If they 
say huh?, Run Forest, Run )

 

 Srijau, did you ask Maharishi this question?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Bulletin from MUM - COMMUNITY ALERT

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I blame you Barry, for the coffee that I just blew across my living room table! 
 

 

 WTF? First Maharishi sends a message from beyond the grave, and now he's BACK?
 

 At least it's good that they're warning people about him this time...

 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bulletin from MUM - COMMUNITY ALERT

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Barry already gave it. And yes, MMY is a fiendishly smooth operator!
 

 

 Seriously, why don't they just print the guys name? He sounds like a 
fiendishly smooth operator. 
 


 

[FairfieldLife] Suicide in Fairfield: The Maharishi Effect

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Suicide in Fairfield: Iowa town struggles with mental health awareness | Little 
Village 
http://littlevillagemag.com/suicide-in-fairfield-iowa-town-struggles-with-mental-health-awareness/
 
 
 
http://littlevillagemag.com/suicide-in-fairfield-iowa-town-struggles-with-mental-health-awareness/
 
 
 Suicide in Fairfield: Iowa town struggles with mental he... 
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 Available online and published twice a month, Little Village covers Iowa City 
events, news, music, film and more -- all from a refreshing, local perspective.
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Terrorists At The Gates!

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Have you lost the ability to read Tex? From that Tampa Bay article: 

 Based on our talks with experts and statements from law enforcement 
 officials, the possibility of ISIS attacking the United States by crossing 
 the southern border seems unlikely. The certainty that Franks suggests about 
 what we know is wrong.
 Enjoy cowering from the bogey-man Tex. Remember to pull the covers up!
 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Terrorists At The Gates!

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

As usual Tex, you need to get some smarts: snopes.com: Houston Police Arrest 
Suspected ISIS Terrorist http://www.snopes.com/photos/crime/houstonisis.asp 
 
 http://www.snopes.com/photos/crime/houstonisis.asp 
 
 snopes.com: Houston Police Arrest Suspected ISIS Terror... 
http://www.snopes.com/photos/crime/houstonisis.asp Photograph shows an ISIS 
terrorist arrested in Houston.
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Terrorists At The Gates!

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Like I said, you need to get some smarts Tex. You won't get that reading 
right-wingnut trash reports. But hey, if you want to cower in fear down in TX 
because you think Isis is at your door, be my guest.

[FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
 

 Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs

 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Established in Being, let anger take over

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Works for me.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 
 Geezer,
 

 If he were still alive, I don't think MMY would want to talk with you either.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :

 Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
 

 Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs

 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers'

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Well put. Further, let's not forget that his jealously was not limited to 
followers seeing other teachers. 

 He also pushed celibacy while not practicing it himself. More for me, less for 
you. Clever, I suppose.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers'

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

C'mon Richard, you can do better than that. At least try and be clever. 

  If there was anyone in MMY's bedroom to actually know that he was 
screwing a gal, I'd say the voyeur was unstable, not the lovers.

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers'

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

That may have been what YOU heard Lawson but I am reporting what he told me 
personally and he knew I was married at the time. I asked him about celibacy 
and he responded it would be good to do. What I did not know at the time was 
that he was sexually active with several other women during this time, roughly 
mid 1973. 

 Eh, he may or may not have been celibate, but in fact, all *I* ever heard on 
 the matter from TM teachers was that Maharishi thought that celibacy was the 
 fastest way to attain enlightenment, but that for those who were not 
 comfortable with being celibate, the strain of doing something unnatural for 
 them was worse than any benefit that might be gained. In that case, he 
 advocated a stable relationship, perferably in the form of marriage.
 

 

 

 

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :

 Well put. Further, let's not forget that his jealously was not limited to 
followers seeing other teachers. 

 He also pushed celibacy while not practicing it himself. More for me, less for 
you. Clever, I suppose.


  

[FairfieldLife] Another suicide in FF

[geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

 Sheer-el Cohen. He was employed at the Raj. Apparently this happened yesterday.
 

 http://www.8000now.com/audiotext/Sheer-elCohenText.htm 
http://www.8000now.com/audiotext/Sheer-elCohenText.htm