Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Pope's speech on Faith and reason (Islam Democracy- In...

2006-09-19 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 9/18/06 10:38:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  
  (snip)"I'm asking for a name and quote from someone who says 
  Iraqis aren't evolved enough to handle democracy. I gather you just 
  made that part up."It's not a question of evolution, More of a 
  question of having a democracy,In a culture of Islam.Islam is based on 
  subjugation of woman.So right there, no democracy is possible.And so 
  many other reasons...Mr.Bush was influenced by a Russian writer-Natan 
  Sharansky, Soviet human rights activist and Israeli politician 
  ...Anyway, this Russian guy, convinced Mr.Bush, that democracy would be 
  the answer to everything...Mr.Bush bought this notion, lock, 
  stock and barrel...The only problem is, it may be compatible with European 
  and other systems of religion...or belief system.But Islam does not 
  allow for free debate.Beheadings are more the style there.Therefore,,, 
  democracy does not work, and is incompatible with 
  Islam..R.G.

R.G. I have to agree with how you put. I wasn't referring to people on this 
list as seeing the Muslims as being somehow less than Human, but exactly as you 
put it. That they, as a people, are not ready for Democracy because it is 
not compatible with their culture. I was referringto Social evolution not 
biological evolution. And I have to disagree with the premise, that Islamic 
countries are not ready for Democracy. I think any civilized people are ready 
for it, but may needmore time and help depending on what their previous 
experiences have been. Iraq would be a particularly hard place to put it to the 
test since there has been an age old conflict between Sunni, Shi'ia and Kurds 
and there is so much mistrust between each ethnic group. Where as in other 
Muslim nations one group or the other is the overwhelming majority and the 
minorities have learned to get along better. If Democracy could be nurtured in 
Iraq long enough for each group to feel secure and not threatened by each other, 
the other Muslim nations would find it a snap should they decide to make the 
same move.
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[FairfieldLife] 'Pope's speech on Faith and reason (Islam Democracy- Incompatible)'

2006-09-18 Thread Robert Gimbel
 (snip)
I'm  asking for a name and quote from someone who
 says Iraqis aren't evolved  enough to handle
 democracy. I gather you just made that part  up.

It's not a question of evolution, 
More of a question of having a democracy,
In a culture of Islam.
Islam is based on subjugation of woman.
So right there, no democracy is possible.
And so many other reasons...
Mr.Bush was influenced by a Russian writer-
Natan Sharansky, Soviet human rights activist and Israeli 
politician ...
Anyway, this Russian guy, convinced Mr.Bush, that democracy would be 
the answer to everything...
Mr.Bush bought this notion, lock, stock and barrel...
The only problem is, it may be compatible with European and other 
systems of religion...or belief system.
But Islam does not allow for free debate.
Beheadings are more the style there.
Therefore,,, democracy does not work, and is incompatible with Islam..
R.G.







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