[FairfieldLife] Adyashanti in Fairfield
Adyashanti was excellent in the Sondheim last night. He had a good crowd, about 300, I would guess. He is very smart, very articulate, well worth hearing, for those who like that kind of thing (the waking up thing, that is). I much prefer him to the imperious drama queen, Gangaji. He handled questions superbly, understanding exactly where people were coming from and taking them where they wanted to go but didn't know how. Very down-to-earth manner, not a trace of arrogance, speaking democratically as one human being to others. I enjoyed him a lot. He is speaking tonight, also, at 7:30.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Adyashanti in Fairfield
Perhaps coming out of more of a zen/buddhist tradition makes him a little more direct and intellectual. I've always enjoyed his simple clarity. --- On Wed, 4/20/11, feste37 fest...@yahoo.com wrote: From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Adyashanti in Fairfield To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 10:52 AM Adyashanti was excellent in the Sondheim last night. He had a good crowd, about 300, I would guess. He is very smart, very articulate, well worth hearing, for those who like that kind of thing (the waking up thing, that is). I much prefer him to the imperious drama queen, Gangaji. He handled questions superbly, understanding exactly where people were coming from and taking them where they wanted to go but didn't know how. Very down-to-earth manner, not a trace of arrogance, speaking democratically as one human being to others. I enjoyed him a lot. He is speaking tonight, also, at 7:30. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com
RE: [FairfieldLife] Adyashanti in Fairfield
Comment from a non-FFL member friend on this thread: I think putting down gangji was in appropriate and unnecessary. she may not be his cup of tea but seems to have a following of people who get a lot out of her. also,,, adyahanti is a good speaker but what value is it long term... my exp is that he describes the exp of realization and also what needs to be done. in terms of coming out of denial. embracing the dark side and investigating belief systems. he basically said what B katie says. the only suffering is un investigated beliefs, but he gives no way really that is systematic for people to go in and deal with the shadow side or all the thoughts.. I need I want I should he shouldn't etc he helped someone with atma vichara who am I, and encouraged someone to ask themselves what is my deepest fears etc. this I felt was going in the right direction and helpful. its still nice to hear this kind of satsang.. good to have understanding as well this wont make sense to you unless you are really caught in the suffering like someone of the questioners last night.. I really could relate and thansk God I have katie, the sedona method and shadow work. just doing who am I or lsitening to advatia talks are good entertainment but for going deep into mental patterns to release them. I think a lot more needs to be done. he seemed to say the say thing but doesnt give much direction.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Adyashanti in Fairfield
And then this poster goes on to put down Adyashanti! We are nothing if not hypocrites! --- On Wed, 4/20/11, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Adyashanti in Fairfield To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 12:53 PM Comment from a non-FFL member friend on this thread: I think putting down gangji was in appropriate and unnecessary. she may not be his cup of tea but seems to have a following of people who get a lot out of her. also,,, adyahanti is a good speaker but what value is it long term... my exp is that he describes the exp of realization and also what needs to be done. in terms of coming out of denial. embracing the dark side and investigating belief systems.he basically said what B katie says. the only suffering is un investigated beliefs, but he gives no way really that is systematic for people to go in and deal with the shadow side or all the thoughts..I needI want I shouldhe shouldn't etche helped someone with atma vichara who am I, and encouraged someone to ask themselves what is my deepest fears etc. this I felt was going in the right direction and helpful.its still nice to hear this kind of satsang.. good to have understanding as wellthis wont make sense to you unless you are really caught in the suffering like someone of the questioners last night.. I really could relate and thansk God I have katie, the sedona method and shadow work. just doing who am I or lsitening to advatia talks are good entertainment but for going deep into mental patterns to release them. I think a lot more needs to be done. he seemed to say the say thing but doesnt give much direction.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Adyashanti in Fairfield
On Apr 20, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Comment from a non-FFL member friend on this thread: I think putting down gangji was in appropriate and unnecessary. she may not be his cup of tea but seems to have a following of people who get a lot out of her. Sure glad the politeness police are out so that we know what is appropriate and necessary, and what isn't. Thank goodness for that. I agreed with feste's comment, and I actually like Gangaji. And what's wrong with being a drama queen, anyway? Why is that automatically an insult? :) also,,, adyahanti is a good speaker but what value is it long term... And I'm also really glad that there is someone to tell myself and others what is good for us... no reason to try anything out for ourselves then, we can just let Mr. Politeness Police decide that for us. my exp is that he describes the exp of realization and also what needs to be done. in terms of coming out of denial. embracing the dark side and investigating belief systems. he basically said what B katie says. the only suffering is un investigated beliefs, but he gives no way really that is systematic for people to go in and deal with the shadow side or all the thoughts.. And if a person doesn't say exactly what I think he should, I can say that. But you can't say what you think of other spiritual masters (so-called). Are we all clear on that now? And never refer to anyone as a drama queen, even if they are. I need I want I should he shouldn't etc he helped someone with atma vichara who am I, and encouraged someone to ask themselves what is my deepest fears etc. this I felt was going in the right direction and helpful. its still nice to hear this kind of satsang.. good to have understanding as well this wont make sense to you unless you are really caught in the suffering like someone of the questioners last night.. Of course, a lecture on appropriateness is never complete without the usual condescending observations. I really could relate and thansk God I have katie, the sedona method and shadow work. Yes, we all should thank God we have our own personal experts and cult leaders, that way we don't actually have to use our brains and think for ourselves once in a while. That is a huge relief, as it then leaves us more time to fully focus on what's really important, like watching TV and feeling smugly superior to all the other ignorant slobs out there. just doing who am I or lsitening to advatia talks are good entertainment but for going deep into mental patterns to release them. I think a lot more needs to be done. he seemed to say the say thing but doesnt give much direction. Whereas the people *I* follow are the deepest of the deep, the most directed, the most expert on releasing mental patterns. Nobody else could possibly measure up. And my daddy drove a bigger car than yours did too.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Adyashanti in Fairfield
Nice account of the evening by someone: John and i were blown away- Adya is amazing- so simple and clear- no fancy stuff- and the crowd was great- there were about 350 people- we're going back tonight and taking our neighbor- there were a few questions and really good ones- one gal i know asked one- she said she has had so many experiences of emptiness but was bummed that she is still a seeker - yeah, that is true, and i loved her honesty- Adya told her to look within to find herself- she said she just couldn't find herself- he kept with her and when she kind of frustratedly said that there just wasn't something that was there, he said BINGO! and she got it- so simple- he told her that that emptiness doesn't seem like a great thing at first but to keep being with that- and a kind of devotion to that develops- great- that is the deal- eventually, and he said he didn't want to say this now and to forget he said it but it is true anyway... eventually that emptiness is found to be everything- fullness- all that is- i am making it sound not fabulous, but he was- his simplicity and true humility and naturalness were amazing- this was like ointment for this gal- i was so happy for her. he said that each of us can see that within ourselves any and all the time, and we can also see it in our loved ones and friends and then also in everyone and everything. he brought it down so that it was completely accessible to everyone there. one guy started it out by asking about addictions- he goes between Peace and addictions- Adya was completely non-judgemental- beautiful- talked about the shadow side being just as important as the Light side- both duality- and when we sit in the Light, we have to embrace the Dark, or the Dark will come knocking on our door so that we can see that the jewel of Emptiness is also found even in the Shadows- He told him to keep asking himself what he really wanted from the addiction- deep- it helped the guy a lot, and it addressed 'embodiment', which was great for the Bonder people who were there. I walked out with one of them. she was prepared not to like him but loved him after. Another was totally a head guy- obvious- Adya got him to see the Space- to acknowledge the realization of that. Soothing and freeing. When he was talking, he said that it is interesting that when he sometimes will tell the people at his retreats, 'ok, now let's meditate'- all of a sudden there is a lot of shifting in seats and movement to get comfortable for the meditation- he laughs and says that it is so funny because they are getting READY to find what is already here- that was a cool thing! and so true! The Gita stuff was intersting... Krishna showed Arjuna the whole trip, but Ar. wasn't quite ready for all the shadow stuff. The war was about the war of not wanting to let go- when we awaken, we let go of not only the bad but also the good- and that is the hard part- like Arjuna having to kill his relatives (the good parts about life that we are attached to). Since so many people go to the domes, i don't know who was there who go and who don't- i think it was well mixed, and there were people there that we know and many we have never seen before and a good mix of our age and younger- I'll be interested to see tonight how many are repeats and how many new- I completely recommend that anyone go. Can't imagine anyone being put off by him. Oh yeah, he also talked about the infinite variety of awakenings and also how an awakening is just the beginning- it is walking through the portal and not the end. He said some have huge blown awakenings, and that is lovely but also can trap them, cuz they deep down keep referring to that big one- and there is a kind of attachment to it in their being. And some just have an, 'Oh, for goodness sake, well, i'll be darned' kind of awakening- adorable of him'- and said that these kind can be easier, cuz there is no attachment to the initial breatkthrough. Quite refreshing. He said that when he was in his twenties, he had completed his Buddhist training and felt so good about being a Buddhist and had his mandala beads on his wrist. One day he started having some thoughts that perhaps he was identifying himself as something- as a Buddhist. The next day, the beads caught on something and they went flying all over the floor. Stillness moved!
