[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool fflmod@ 
 wrote:
 
  Even sadder in a way to think about is 
  how much it says about the long-term 
  reality of TM (as opposed to its claims)
  when its two most compulsive defenders 
  on this forum are a man pretending to 
  be a woman...
   
  I spend so little time now reading the posters
  that fall into the troll and nutbar category
  that I do not even know to which poster you are
  referring.
 
 That's OK, he's lying, as usual. He's upset 
 because a whole bunch of his other lies have
 been exposed in the past couple of days, and
 that always drives him to tell *more* lies
 in an attempt to make himself feel better.
 Talk about sad...

Even sadder might be the editor who
regularly posts here telling us what
people really mean by the things they
say (as she does above), and translating 
what they said into what she believes they 
said, and who nonetheless claims to not be 
able to tell who the poster in question 
really is.

What does *that* say about lying?

Could her defense of her new identity
have anything to do with the fact that
1) he/she's one of the only people left
on this forum who interacts with her, 
and 2) that he/she's one of the few 
remaining posters willing to play pile 
on to her Gotta demonize the people 
who criticize TM...just gotta games?

Or could it be mere incompetence on the
part of a second-rate editor? 

It's all relative, you see, and as 
unknowable as the workings of karma. 
When she claims that a poster is me 
pretending to be someone else, that's 
Truth, and OK. When someone suggests 
the same of someone whom she perceives 
to be on her side in her petty tyrant
games, that's a Lie, and Not OK.

But by far the funniest thing in this
exchange is the fact that gullible_fool
may have wondered about which poster was
a man pretending to be a woman, but he
had *no problem* figuring out who the 
poster was who no longer bothered to
even pretend to be a human being.

That's a kind of fame.

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool fflmod@ 
  wrote:
  
   Even sadder in a way to think about is 
   how much it says about the long-term 
   reality of TM (as opposed to its claims)
   when its two most compulsive defenders 
   on this forum are a man pretending to 
   be a woman...
    
   I spend so little time now reading the posters
   that fall into the troll and nutbar category
   that I do not even know to which poster you are
   referring.
  
  That's OK, he's lying, as usual. He's upset 
  because a whole bunch of his other lies have
  been exposed in the past couple of days, and
  that always drives him to tell *more* lies
  in an attempt to make himself feel better.
  Talk about sad...
 
 Even sadder might be the editor who
 regularly posts here telling us what
 people really mean by the things they
 say (as she does above),

Um, no, didn't do that above.

 and translating 
 what they said into what she believes they 
 said,

What she believes is *behind* what they said.

 and who nonetheless claims to not be 
 able to tell who the poster in question 
 really is.

Um, no, don't believe I've done that.

 What does *that* say about lying?

What does *Barry* think that says about
lying when none of what he says above
is true?

 Could her defense of her new identity

Barry's gone off the deep end. Now *I*
have a new identity??

 have anything to do with the fact that
 1) he/she's one of the only people left
 on this forum who interacts with her,

Or did he just get confused about who he
was referring to?

And he's lying about there being only a
few people here who interact with me.

See another post for documentation.
 
 and 2) that he/she's one of the few 
 remaining posters willing to play pile 
 on to her Gotta demonize the people 
 who criticize TM...just gotta games?

Barry means criticize those who are
consistently dishonest and spend most
of their time demonizing other posters,
usually TMers.

 Or could it be mere incompetence on the
 part of a second-rate editor? 
 
 It's all relative, you see, and as 
 unknowable as the workings of karma. 
 When she claims that a poster is me 
 pretending to be someone else, that's 
 Truth,

Don't think I ever claimed that, but I'm
willing to be proved wrong.

 and OK. When someone suggests 
 the same of someone whom she perceives 
 to be on her side in her petty tyrant
 games, that's a Lie, and Not OK.

Nope, never suggested that Ruth lied about
thinking Tim Guy was Lawson.

 But by far the funniest thing in this
 exchange is the fact that gullible_fool
 may have wondered about which poster was
 a man pretending to be a woman, but he
 had *no problem* figuring out who the 
 poster was who no longer bothered to
 even pretend to be a human being.

Given that this was Barry's characterization,
that's hardly surprising.

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[TurquoiseB]

Since I have already blown my New Year's
Resolution, and because this is fun, I 
will reply. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  ...and who [Judy] nonetheless claims to not be 
  able to tell who the poster in question really is.
 
 Um, no, don't believe I've done that.

That is true, but you seem to be quite
sure about the poster's sex. For example, 
just yesterday you said, referring to ed11
(emphasis mine):

 No, Barry, *she* blew you off, as you inadvertently
 acknowledge above. *She's* been laughing at you. *She*
 hasn't risen to your incredibly long-winded bait as
 you had hoped, and you're pissed. In the post you quote 
 above, *she's* blown you off again.

I may be mistaken about this, but that
seems to indicate to me that you accept
who enlightened_dawn11 has said she is,
or at the very least that she is female.

I'm going into this in some depth because
I'm curious as to how a professional editor
such as yourself, if you indeed believe ed11
to be female (as the above quote would seem
to indicate), can have failed to not notice
the things that have convinced a number of
other posters on this forum that she is
not only not female, but is not new here,
as she claimed.

I mean, aren't you the person who, in the 
past, has said things like:

 I've written before here about how a
 person's writing style tends to exhibit what I call a
 certain music. But if you're sensitive to a person's
 music, you can tell when it's slightly off-key, or
 when there are wrong notes in it, or the rhythm departs
 from the usual. That gives you a clue that what they're
 saying isn't what they're really thinking or feeling.

and

 If I ever 
 did think you were another poster, it would have had 
 to have been very early on, because your styles are 
 noticeably different, and I would have registered 
 that pretty quickly.

Those quotes seem to indicate to me that you 
have a sense of comfort with your editor's
ability to compare writing styles and tell
whether a person is, say, a real newcomer to
the forum or someone whose posts you have been
reading (and whose writing style you are thus
familiar with) for almost four years.

I'm wondering how such a competent editor can
miss the things that others -- lesser trained
and experienced in evaluating writing than you, 
and thus lower than pond scum by comparison -- 
have been able to detect.

So can you explain this to us?

Are you just incompetent as an editor, or are
you lying about ed11's gender in an attempt to
help her perpetuate her own lie because
she's often on your side? 

Seems to me that them's the only two choices. 

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 Since I have already blown my New Year's
 Resolution, and because this is fun, I 
 will reply. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
   ...and who [Judy] nonetheless claims to not be 
   able to tell who the poster in question really is.
  
  Um, no, don't believe I've done that.
 
 That is true, but you seem to be quite
 sure about the poster's sex. For example, 
 just yesterday you said, referring to ed11
 (emphasis mine):
 
  No, Barry, *she* blew you off, as you inadvertently
  acknowledge above. *She's* been laughing at you. *She*
  hasn't risen to your incredibly long-winded bait as
  you had hoped, and you're pissed. In the post you quote 
  above, *she's* blown you off again.
 
 I may be mistaken about this, but that
 seems to indicate to me that you accept
 who enlightened_dawn11 has said she is,
 or at the very least that she is female.

Don't see any reason not to accept what ed11
says.

 I'm going into this in some depth because
 I'm curious as to how a professional editor
 such as yourself, if you indeed believe ed11
 to be female (as the above quote would seem
 to indicate), can have failed to not notice

As an editor, I detect that you meant to
write failed to notice, not failed to not
notice (which would mean I *did* notice).

 the things that have convinced a number of
 other posters on this forum that she is
 not only not female, but is not new here,
 as she claimed.
 
 I mean, aren't you the person who, in the 
 past, has said things like:
 
  I've written before here about how a
  person's writing style tends to exhibit what I call a
  certain music. But if you're sensitive to a person's
  music, you can tell when it's slightly off-key, or
  when there are wrong notes in it, or the rhythm departs
  from the usual. That gives you a clue that what they're
  saying isn't what they're really thinking or feeling.
 
 and
 
  If I ever 
  did think you were another poster, it would have had 
  to have been very early on, because your styles are 
  noticeably different, and I would have registered 
  that pretty quickly.
 
 Those quotes seem to indicate to me that you 
 have a sense of comfort with your editor's
 ability to compare writing styles and tell
 whether a person is, say, a real newcomer to
 the forum or someone whose posts you have been
 reading (and whose writing style you are thus
 familiar with) for almost four years.
 
 I'm wondering how such a competent editor can
 miss the things that others -- lesser trained
 and experienced in evaluating writing than you, 
 and thus lower than pond scum by comparison -- 
 have been able to detect.
 
 So can you explain this to us?

Sure, even without your telling me the specifics
of what you and your fellow pond scum believe
you've detected.

Not being experienced editors, you may have
detected superficial points of similarity with
a previous poster's style and completely missed
the more subtle but more profound differences.

Or you may even have overlooked pretty obvious
differences, say those of content, approach to
interaction, even personality.

 Are you just incompetent as an editor, or are
 you lying about ed11's gender in an attempt to
 help her perpetuate her own lie because
 she's often on your side? 
 
 Seems to me that them's the only two choices.

Nope, just gave you another choice.

I note that you didn't provide any examples of
what you and all these other posters believe
you have detected that has convinced you that 
ed11 is really a previous poster. I don't think
that was accidental; I don't think you want to
have them examined and possibly challenged.

You could prove me wrong on this, of course, by
posting them in response. It's even possible I
would find them convincing. But you'll have to
take your chances on that.

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  That is true, but you seem to be quite
  sure about the poster's sex. For example, 
  just yesterday you said, referring to ed11
  (emphasis mine):
  
   No, Barry, *she* blew you off, as you inadvertently
   acknowledge above. *She's* been laughing at you. *She*
   hasn't risen to your incredibly long-winded bait as
   you had hoped, and you're pissed. In the post you quote 
   above, *she's* blown you off again.
  
  I may be mistaken about this, but that
  seems to indicate to me that you accept
  who enlightened_dawn11 has said she is,
  or at the very least that she is female.
 
 Don't see any reason not to accept what ed11
 says.

Actually, I don't think ed11 has ever claimed
to be female. My memory is that someone assumed
that in reply to one his/her posts because of
the Dawn in the screen name, and that ed11 
never corrected them one way or another, and 
allowed the perception of enlightened_dawn11 
as female to go on. So that's not technically 
a lie.

If ed11 is who we think it is, however, her 
first words as ed11 on this forum *are* a lie.

snip
 I note that you didn't provide any examples of
 what you and all these other posters believe
 you have detected that has convinced you that 
 ed11 is really a previous poster. I don't think
 that was accidental; I don't think you want to
 have them examined and possibly challenged.

No, I think it's more fun this way. Let's 
just say that I'm not the only person here
who thinks this. We have our reasons. I 
doubt any of us cares to debate those 
reasons with you. Or much else. :-)

 You could prove me wrong on this, of course, by
 posting them in response. It's even possible I
 would find them convincing. But you'll have to
 take your chances on that.

Or not.

Unlike you, who just spent an entire hour between
posts pouring over the Search engine to compile
your lists of who interacts with you and who does
not, I don't fall for make work projects as
easily as you do.  :-)

So I'll pass, thanks. But it's been fun, and if 
in the future I or someone else asks ed11 to 
comment on how TM affected her while pregnant, 
or whether she notices a difference in meditation 
experiences during her periods, or what it's 
really *like* wearing those women's torture 
shoes that Sal once mentioned, I'm sure you'll 
be as interested in her answers as those of us 
who have a pretty good idea who ed11 really is
will be. 

The difference may be -- as above -- that you 
won't see any reason not to accept what ed11 
says, and we might.

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
snip
  I note that you didn't provide any examples of
  what you and all these other posters believe
  you have detected that has convinced you that 
  ed11 is really a previous poster. I don't think
  that was accidental; I don't think you want to
  have them examined and possibly challenged.
 
 No, I think it's more fun this way. Let's 
 just say that I'm not the only person here
 who thinks this. We have our reasons. I 
 doubt any of us cares to debate those 
 reasons with you. Or much else. :-)

Right, as I said, you don't want to have them
examined and possibly challenged. *Of course*
it's more fun to claim secret knowledge; it
makes you feel *special*.

(And if you don't want to debate anything else
with me, why do you keep trying?)

snip 
 Unlike you, who just spent an entire hour between
 posts pouring over the Search engine to compile
 your lists of who interacts with you and who does
 not,

Actually it took me less than 15 minutes.

 I don't fall for make work projects as
 easily as you do.  :-)

Uh-huh. You've been claiming almost nobody talks
to me here for quite awhile now, always in support
of one or another of your demonizations of me.

And all along, all you wanted was for me to prove
you were lying, right?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[Bhairitu]

gullible fool wrote:
 I spend so little time now reading the posters that fall into the troll and 
 nutbar category that I do not even know to which poster you are referring.
And I don't click on posts that seem to be the same ol', same ol'.  
Dead horse beating of the topic on enlightenment by the clueless.  
Yada, yada, yada.  And with the thread hijacking it is entirely possible 
a topic gets hidden I might want to comment on.  On a lot of topics here 
you can read the first post and then click about 40 posts later and they 
are off on some other planet. ;-)

Some coherence, eh?

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[Dick Mays]

From: Bob Roth bobr...@maharishi.net
To: Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com
Subject: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:16:25 -0500

Ringo confirmed, but we do not know if they will collaborate... but 
he is coming...




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Last nite on the Global chat, Peter Swan said McCartney and Ringo 
Starr and others will be at the concert

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[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickm...@... wrote:

 From: Bob Roth bobr...@...
 To: Dick Mays dickm...@...
 Subject: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the
concert
 Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:16:25 -0500
 
 Ringo confirmed, but we do not know if they will collaborate... 
 but he is coming...

Just as a question, does anyone else see the
fascination with this concert as a little sad?

Don't get me wrong -- I actually applaud David
Lynch's idealism and his desire to teach a million
kids to meditate. And I think that the world would
be a better place if a million of them learned a
simple, basic technique like TM, and then were
kept as far away as humanly possible from the TMO,
its dogma, and its cultish environment.

But on another level, isn't the fascination and
excitement we see about this concert a bit of 
Forward, into the past? (To quote the Firesign
Theatre.) 

I mean, this is a 63-year-old man promoting a 
concert that features an almost 67-year-old 
singer and an almost 69-year-old drummer. And
the people getting all excited about it are in
the same age range.

It's almost as if they were looking backwards
to the glory days of the TM movement, and 
hoping that by reviving those glory days, and
using the *same* performers to do it, they can
revive their *own* glory. 

I'm not convinced that's going to happen. The
first Beatles wave happened at an opportune
moment in American history. The wave got carried
along by the *other* waves of the Hippie revolution
and the anti-war revolution, both of them based to
some extent on *rejecting* the status quo and the
staid and boring future laid out for young people
by their elders. It also happened at a time when
TM cost $35 for students and $75 for adults.

Now it costs $2000 for everyone, unless David Lynch
pays for it, and then it costs $600. So I'm thinkin'
that -- as much as I'd like to see a lot of young
people learning to meditate -- a wave is just not
gonna happen as a result of this concert. 

As for the *audience* for this concert, I have to 
be equally cynical in thinking there aren't going
to be a lot of young people there. Instead, it's
going to be a bunch of old folks reliving the glory
days of their youths by watching people as old as
they are dance around up on stage. That's cool and
all, but if I were into that I'd be trying to score
tickets to the upcoming Grateful Dead tour, not a 
concert featuring two of the Fab Four.

Anyway...these were just a few thoughts about this
concert. I really do wish them well. I hope it's a 
great concert, that all attending or performing have
a great time, and that they raise a lot of money that
will be spent teaching kids to meditate. 

But recapturing the glory days of the TM movement,
or even the glory days of its dying-faster-than-they-
are-multiplying TM practitioners? I don't see that
happening. 



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 Last nite on the Global chat, Peter Swan said McCartney and Ringo 
 Starr and others will be at the concert

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[ruthsimplicity]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 

 
 I mean, this is a 63-year-old man promoting a 
 concert that features an almost 67-year-old 
 singer and an almost 69-year-old drummer. And
 the people getting all excited about it are in
 the same age range.

I'm going and throwing my old lady panties on stage.  

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
snip
 I mean, this is a 63-year-old man promoting a 
 concert that features an almost 67-year-old 
 singer and an almost 69-year-old drummer. And
 the people getting all excited about it are in
 the same age range.

Well, we don't exactly have a large contingent
of younger sprouts on this forum, do we? Could
that be why the folks here who are getting all
excited are in the same age range, because there
aren't any in any *other* age range?

 It's almost as if they were looking backwards
 to the glory days of the TM movement, and 
 hoping that by reviving those glory days, and
 using the *same* performers to do it, they can
 revive their *own* glory. 

Given that the Beatles had their own glory days
quite independently of the TM movement, seems to
me there's no good reason to assume TMers are
looking back to the TMO's Beatles-dependent glory
days rather than to those of the Beatles themselves
(which were significantly more glorious than the
TMO's by most measures anyway).

If the concert helps the TMO attract new meditators,
great, but for many if not most, it'll have its own
value.

snip
 As for the *audience* for this concert, I have to 
 be equally cynical in thinking there aren't going
 to be a lot of young people there.

I'd guess nobody much cares about that. What's 
important is the publicity and the box office, which
will, presumably, enhance the TMO's and Lynch's
subsequent outreach efforts. I doubt anybody's
expecting thousands of young people to attend the
concert and be inspired by it to join up afterward.

 Instead, it's
 going to be a bunch of old folks reliving the glory
 days of their youths by watching people as old as
 they are dance around up on stage. That's cool and
 all, but if I were into that I'd be trying to score
 tickets to the upcoming Grateful Dead tour, not a 
 concert featuring two of the Fab Four.

In other words, Barry thinks the Grateful Dead are
better than the Beatles were.

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[Patrick Gillam]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
 
  
  I mean, this is a 63-year-old man promoting a 
  concert that features an almost 67-year-old 
  singer and an almost 69-year-old drummer. And
  the people getting all excited about it are in
  the same age range.
 
 I'm going and throwing my old lady panties on stage.

All the while believing you're at a Tom Jones concert, eh Ruth?

;-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[Sal Sunshine]

On Feb 15, 2009, at 7:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


Just as a question, does anyone else see the
fascination with this concert as a little sad?


Yep, just thinking the same thing.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[shempmcgurk]

I have to agree with pretty much everything Barry writes here.

And sad IS the best word to describe it.

It would be wonderful if many people started TM as a result.  Perhaps 
the only way that can happen is if the money raised is used to get 
people started in other countries, non-western countries because 
it's tainted here as far as education goes (which is what the Lynch 
Foundation is all about).

Let them raise several million, keep it away from Girish, and see 
about getting Venezuelans or some other nationality's people 
meditating.





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ wrote:
 
  From: Bob Roth bobroth@
  To: Dick Mays dickmays@
  Subject: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the
 concert
  Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:16:25 -0500
  
  Ringo confirmed, but we do not know if they will collaborate... 
  but he is coming...
 
 Just as a question, does anyone else see the
 fascination with this concert as a little sad?
 
 Don't get me wrong -- I actually applaud David
 Lynch's idealism and his desire to teach a million
 kids to meditate. And I think that the world would
 be a better place if a million of them learned a
 simple, basic technique like TM, and then were
 kept as far away as humanly possible from the TMO,
 its dogma, and its cultish environment.
 
 But on another level, isn't the fascination and
 excitement we see about this concert a bit of 
 Forward, into the past? (To quote the Firesign
 Theatre.) 
 
 I mean, this is a 63-year-old man promoting a 
 concert that features an almost 67-year-old 
 singer and an almost 69-year-old drummer. And
 the people getting all excited about it are in
 the same age range.
 
 It's almost as if they were looking backwards
 to the glory days of the TM movement, and 
 hoping that by reviving those glory days, and
 using the *same* performers to do it, they can
 revive their *own* glory. 
 
 I'm not convinced that's going to happen. The
 first Beatles wave happened at an opportune
 moment in American history. The wave got carried
 along by the *other* waves of the Hippie revolution
 and the anti-war revolution, both of them based to
 some extent on *rejecting* the status quo and the
 staid and boring future laid out for young people
 by their elders. It also happened at a time when
 TM cost $35 for students and $75 for adults.
 
 Now it costs $2000 for everyone, unless David Lynch
 pays for it, and then it costs $600. So I'm thinkin'
 that -- as much as I'd like to see a lot of young
 people learning to meditate -- a wave is just not
 gonna happen as a result of this concert. 
 
 As for the *audience* for this concert, I have to 
 be equally cynical in thinking there aren't going
 to be a lot of young people there. Instead, it's
 going to be a bunch of old folks reliving the glory
 days of their youths by watching people as old as
 they are dance around up on stage. That's cool and
 all, but if I were into that I'd be trying to score
 tickets to the upcoming Grateful Dead tour, not a 
 concert featuring two of the Fab Four.
 
 Anyway...these were just a few thoughts about this
 concert. I really do wish them well. I hope it's a 
 great concert, that all attending or performing have
 a great time, and that they raise a lot of money that
 will be spent teaching kids to meditate. 
 
 But recapturing the glory days of the TM movement,
 or even the glory days of its dying-faster-than-they-
 are-multiplying TM practitioners? I don't see that
 happening. 
 
 
 
  To:
 
mailto:fairfield_community_ki...@yahoogroups.comFairfield_Community_
ki...@yahoogroups.com
  From: mcjrich mailto:mcjrich@mcjrich@
  Sender:
 
mailto:fairfield_community_ki...@yahoogroups.comFairfield_Community_
ki...@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:34:56 -
  Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will 
appear 
  at the concert
  Reply-To:
 
mailto:fairfield_community_ki...@yahoogroups.comFairfield_Community_
ki...@yahoogroups.com
  
  Last nite on the Global chat, Peter Swan said McCartney and Ringo 
  Starr and others will be at the concert
 

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[enlightened_dawn11]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ wrote:
 
  From: Bob Roth bobroth@
  To: Dick Mays dickmays@
  Subject: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the
 concert
  Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:16:25 -0500
  
  Ringo confirmed, but we do not know if they will collaborate... 
  but he is coming...
 
 Just as a question, does anyone else see the
 fascination with this concert as a little sad?
 
most of us haven't thought twice about it. oh...you mean YOUR 
FASCINATION WITH IT? yeah, i find a lot of things about you a little 
sad.

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[Richard M]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@...
wrote:

 On Feb 15, 2009, at 7:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  Just as a question, does anyone else see the
  fascination with this concert as a little sad?
 
 Yep, just thinking the same thing.
 
 Sal


Oh, how gloomy.

The first ten million years were the worst, and the second ten
million years, they were the worst too. The third ten million I didn't
enjoy at all. After that I went into a bit of a decline. (Marvin the
robot)

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 I have to agree with pretty much everything Barry writes here.
 
 And sad IS the best word to describe it.
 
 It would be wonderful if many people started TM as a result.  Perhaps 
 the only way that can happen is if the money raised is used to get 
 people started in other countries, non-western countries because 
 it's tainted here as far as education goes (which is what the Lynch 
 Foundation is all about).
 
 Let them raise several million, keep it away from Girish, and see 
 about getting Venezuelans or some other nationality's people 
 meditating.

There's supposed to be a waiting list of at least 100 *schools* in the USA
for funding to teach TM there.

L.

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@...
wrote:

 On Feb 15, 2009, at 7:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  Just as a question, does anyone else see the
  fascination with this concert as a little sad?
 
 Yep, just thinking the same thing.

Even sadder in a way to think about is 
how much it says about the long-term 
reality of TM (as opposed to its claims)
when its two most compulsive defenders 
on this forum are a man pretending to 
be a woman and a woman who doesn't even 
bother any more to pretend to be a human 
being.  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[gullible fool]

Even sadder in a way to think about is 
how much it says about the long-term 
reality of TM (as opposed to its claims)
when its two most compulsive defenders 
on this forum are a man pretending to 
be a woman...
 
I spend so little time now reading the posters that fall into the troll and 
nutbar category that I do not even know to which poster you are referring.
 
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only 
love. 
 
- Amma  

--- On Sun, 2/15/09, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear 
at the concert
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 7:12 PM

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@...
wrote:

 On Feb 15, 2009, at 7:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  Just as a question, does anyone else see the
  fascination with this concert as a little sad?
 
 Yep, just thinking the same thing.

Even sadder in a way to think about is 
how much it says about the long-term 
reality of TM (as opposed to its claims)
when its two most compulsive defenders 
on this forum are a man pretending to 
be a woman and a woman who doesn't even 
bother any more to pretend to be a human 
being.  







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[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool ffl...@... 
wrote:

 Even sadder in a way to think about is 
 how much it says about the long-term 
 reality of TM (as opposed to its claims)
 when its two most compulsive defenders 
 on this forum are a man pretending to 
 be a woman...
  
 I spend so little time now reading the posters
 that fall into the troll and nutbar category
 that I do not even know to which poster you are
 referring.

That's OK, he's lying, as usual. He's upset 
because a whole bunch of his other lies have
been exposed in the past couple of days, and
that always drives him to tell *more* lies
in an attempt to make himself feel better.
Talk about sad...

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[enlightened_dawn11]

the man pretending to be a woman is his reference to me. he has also 
guessed at my identity several other times, calling me a blond 
(derogatory reference for him), someone who does and then doesn't 
practice TM, someone who claims to be enlightened, and then doesn't, 
all kinds of imaginings; I am a bullshit artist-- Barry Wright. 

it drives him crazy that i choose not to reveal more about myself, 
AND that i disagree with him. 

if i played the sycophant to Barry's postings, he wouldn't care if i 
was a three legged chicken with a mohawk who used to call himself 
Sally.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool ffl...@... 
wrote:

 
 Even sadder in a way to think about is 
 how much it says about the long-term 
 reality of TM (as opposed to its claims)
 when its two most compulsive defenders 
 on this forum are a man pretending to 
 be a woman...
  
 I spend so little time now reading the posters that fall into the 
troll and nutbar category that I do not even know to which poster 
you are referring.
  
 Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no 
`you,' only love. 
  
 - Amma  
 
 --- On Sun, 2/15/09, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] 
Ringo will appear at the concert
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 7:12 PM
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
 wrote:
 
  On Feb 15, 2009, at 7:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
  
   Just as a question, does anyone else see the
   fascination with this concert as a little sad?
  
  Yep, just thinking the same thing.
 
 Even sadder in a way to think about is 
 how much it says about the long-term 
 reality of TM (as opposed to its claims)
 when its two most compulsive defenders 
 on this forum are a man pretending to 
 be a woman and a woman who doesn't even 
 bother any more to pretend to be a human 
 being.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[gullible fool]

 
Thanks for clarifying.
  
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only 
love. 
 
- Amma  

--- On Sun, 2/15/09, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

From: enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear 
at the concert
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 10:44 PM

the man pretending to be a woman is his reference to me. he has also 
guessed at my identity several other times, calling me a blond 
(derogatory reference for him), someone who does and then doesn't 
practice TM, someone who claims to be enlightened, and then doesn't, 
all kinds of imaginings; I am a bullshit artist-- Barry Wright. 

it drives him crazy that i choose not to reveal more about myself, 
AND that i disagree with him. 

if i played the sycophant to Barry's postings, he wouldn't care if i 
was a three legged chicken with a mohawk who used to call himself 
Sally.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool ffl...@... 
wrote:

 
 Even sadder in a way to think about is 
 how much it says about the long-term 
 reality of TM (as opposed to its claims)
 when its two most compulsive defenders 
 on this forum are a man pretending to 
 be a woman...
  
 I spend so little time now reading the posters that fall into the 
troll and nutbar category that I do not even know to which poster 
you are referring.
  
 Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no 
`you,' only love. 
  
 - Amma  
 
 --- On Sun, 2/15/09, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] 
Ringo will appear at the concert
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 7:12 PM
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
 wrote:
 
  On Feb 15, 2009, at 7:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
  
   Just as a question, does anyone else see the
   fascination with this concert as a little sad?
  
  Yep, just thinking the same thing.
 
 Even sadder in a way to think about is 
 how much it says about the long-term 
 reality of TM (as opposed to its claims)
 when its two most compulsive defenders 
 on this forum are a man pretending to 
 be a woman and a woman who doesn't even 
 bother any more to pretend to be a human 
 being.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 To subscribe, send a message to:
 fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
 
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 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
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[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
 wrote:
 
  On Feb 15, 2009, at 7:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
  
   Just as a question, does anyone else see the
   fascination with this concert as a little sad?
  
  Yep, just thinking the same thing.
 
 Even sadder in a way to think about is 
 how much it says about the long-term 
 reality of TM (as opposed to its claims)
 when its two most compulsive defenders 
 on this forum are a man pretending to 
 be a woman and a woman who doesn't even 
 bother any more to pretend to be a human 
 being.


Nyah you don't have a problem with people that disagree with you, Unk.


L

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[satvadude108]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote:

 the man pretending to be a woman is his reference to me. he has also 
 guessed at my identity several other times, calling me a blond 
 (derogatory reference for him), someone who does and then doesn't 
 practice TM, someone who claims to be enlightened, and then doesn't, 
 all kinds of imaginings; I am a bullshit artist-- Barry Wright. 
 
 it drives him crazy that i choose not to reveal more about myself, 
 AND that i disagree with him. 
 
 if i played the sycophant to Barry's postings, he wouldn't care if i 
 was a three legged chicken with a mohawk who used to call himself 
 Sally.
 

Thanks Jim.

Glad you cleared that up.

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] Ringo will appear at the concert

[enlightened_dawn11]

sure Pete or Frank or Crystal, no problem...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 no_re...@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 
no_reply@ wrote:
 
  the man pretending to be a woman is his reference to me. he has 
also 
  guessed at my identity several other times, calling me a blond 
  (derogatory reference for him), someone who does and then 
doesn't 
  practice TM, someone who claims to be enlightened, and then 
doesn't, 
  all kinds of imaginings; I am a bullshit artist-- Barry 
Wright. 
  
  it drives him crazy that i choose not to reveal more about 
myself, 
  AND that i disagree with him. 
  
  if i played the sycophant to Barry's postings, he wouldn't care 
if i 
  was a three legged chicken with a mohawk who used to call 
himself 
  Sally.
  
 
 Thanks Jim.
 
 Glad you cleared that up.