Amar-Ghandi was NOT a pacifist! According to Yogananda who knew him
personally he (Ghandi) maintained "it is better to resist with
physical force than to be a coward"!!  Gita/Yogananda's comment.

Just as we fight evil within us, so too we must fight the evil in the
larger us...the world! Ahimsa does not equal cowardise!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "amarnath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Namaste,
> 
> Gandhi faced the fierce Indian mountain worriers and asked them, "Why
> are you afraid?"
> They said, "What? We are the fiercest worriers in the world; we are
> not afraid of anything."
> Gandhi said, "Why all those guns and straps of  ammunition around your
> body? I am not afraid of anything. That's why I don't need the guns."
> Gandhi won them over and they were the most courageous fighters for
> non-violence.
> 
> Perhaps there were times when the good and evil could be separated by
> groups of people and Avatars like Rama and Krishna came and slew them.
> But, in these times, the evil is within each one person even within
> the so called good ones. And, the Gita( see Yogananda's Translation ),
>  for these times especially, is best interpreted in term of the
> psychology of the mind. 
> 
> Amma says the mind is the Kurushetra( field of battle ). And says,
> that we are headed for an abyss and due to the unbridled selfishness
> it is possible that the human race might not survive.
> 
> So, perhaps there is a time to kill like Rama and Krishna did and
> perhaps there is a time to die like Gandhi, King, Jesus, and even
> Krishna allowed himself to be shot by an arrow and before that all his
> people drowned in the sea. Not sure how Rama left the body. When the
> curtain is drawn, the play is over.
> 
> It is the nature of the mind which needs to be understood and
> conquered. Quoting MMY blindly will not lead to your own Awakening.
> Good book to read on the nature of mind:
> "Awaken Children" Vol 7 teachings of Mata Amritanandamayi. Reading the
> book will not be enough; observing the nature of one's own mind and
> some inquiry are needed besides whatever other spiritual practices
you do.
> 
> This is my 2cents, my opinion. Your opinion may be different.
>  
> Om santi,
> anatol
> PS ~
> from below "> ...make no mistake about it, God knows what is good and
> > what is evil!!"
> my comment: do you?
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Magoo" <wgm4u@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
> > <willytex@> wrote:
> > >
> > > amarnath wrote:
> > > > i feel what America needs right now is a 1,000 Gandhis,
> > > >
> > > Maybe what America needs right now are 2,000 Arjunas. In my opinion,
> > > we don't need any more pacifistic Gandhis right now. Because of
> > > extreme pacifism the Muslims raped and plundered India, cutting off
> > > the heads of the meditating Buddhists. I'm not in favor of that -
> > > people should fight for their self-defense. 
> > > 
> > > Read the Bhagavad Gita: Lord Krishna said - stand up and fight.
> > 
> > Right on Willy...one should fight, not only the internal enemies of
> > the soul, but the external enemies of Truth, which is evil. Soldiers
> > who do this are heros, kshatriyas!   
> >  
> > > > Peace Pilgrims and a US Department of Peace
> > > >
> > > America's peace keepers and brain wave coherence generators! The
> > > Maharishi's formula is to bring military power in alliance with the
> > > invincible power of Natural Law. 
> > >  
> > > > to turn things around for America;
> > > >
> > > Fort Bliss - America's Homeland Security. "The purpose of the
military
> > > is to keep war from happening — or to end it quickly if it does
> > > happen." - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> > > 
> > > http://www.invincibleamerica.org/
> > > 
> > > > perhaps, it's too late.
> > > > 
> > > Maybe too late to protect Europe - the enemy is already storming the
> > > gates. But it's not too late for America - we can still surge
forward,
> > > like Arjuna in the battle of Kurukshetra, and kill the enemy before
> > > they strike us first.
> > 
> > According to Yogananda Ghandi was NOT a pacifist. Also Yogananda says:
> > "Those who enter the portals of death while engaged in righteous
> > battle to banish any kind of evil, fall asleep on the soft down of
> > meritorious inner soul-satisfaction and are lifted in glory to the
> > astral heaven"...make no mistake about it, God knows what is good and
> > what is evil!!
> >
>


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