[FairfieldLife] Maharishi: A discussion of karma and MJ, was Maharishi
On 7/26/2014 10:30 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: But, pray, tell me. Where on scale does TM rate in your estimation? Let's say you have Boko Haram on one end, Miley Cyrus on the other, and animal testing somewhere in the middle. Where does TM fit in? It looks like MJ places MMY higher on his hit list than Boko Harem, since he's never mentioned them but has railed at MMY hundreds of times by now. Go figure.
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Richard, it would be great to meet you and Rita if you ever drive north (-: I think you both would enjoy FF expecially if you visit during Art Walk. On Friday, July 25, 2014 1:50 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 7/25/2014 9:33 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richard, talk about impressions and lines on granite! You have to consider your target audience, Share, so you need to understand that my primary debate is with an anonymous informant whose last contact with the TMO is probably close to forty years ago by now. And the other guy, when he was in contact with the movement, worked in food service at the campus student cafeteria twenty or more years ago. That doesn't give us much to go on as far being an informant. Lately I've been trying to keep things on their level - bars and sex. Otherwise it gets too complicated for the other informants. So, it's really refreshing to actually hear from someone who actually know what's going on up there. Thanks. On Friday, July 25, 2014 7:50 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 7/25/2014 6:51 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was being somewhat facetious in my commentary on the origins of so-called vedic wisdom, but I bet I am not far off the mark You got to work really early this morning! Most of the time I start responding to email at 8:00 o'clock when we open the office, but you seem to get up around 5:00 AM and open up the shop. Apparently you just can't wait to post something about the Maharishi. That guy seems to have really had an big impression on you! You may be one of his biggest fans. Go figure. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others I know I commented on this before, but going through things again, more leisurely, this is just a too funny analysis by Michael of those who have chosen a different path. God love him. Somehow Michael, you regularly make the exception the rule. And you are always so sure of yourself. Begs the Dr. Phil question, How's that working for you
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi: A discussion of karma and MJ, was Maharishi
On 7/25/2014 6:51 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was being somewhat facetious in my commentary on the origins of so-called vedic wisdom, but I bet I am not far off the mark You got to work really early this morning! Most of the time I start responding to email at 8:00 o'clock when we open the office, but you seem to get up around 5:00 AM and open up the shop. Apparently you just can't wait to post something about the Maharishi. That guy seems to have really had an big impression on you! You may be one of his biggest fans. Go figure. *From:* steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:36 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others I know I commented on this before, but going through things again, more leisurely, this is just a too funny analysis by Michael of those who have chosen a different path. God love him. Somehow Michael, you regularly make the exception the rule. And you are always so sure of yourself. Begs the Dr. Phil question, How's that working for you
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi: A discussion of karma and MJ, was Maharishi
On 7/23/2014 9:08 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Excellent post Dick! it points up very clearly what a liar and huckster Marshy was. To wit: If some friend of yours brings pleasure to you, it's not that he is the cause of pleasure, but some of our good karma is coming through him. Marshy must have felt quite self satisfied over his good karma that allowed him to have such pleasure with all the good lookin' gals he had sex with. So, it looks like MJ doesn't want to talk about how he got into the Maharishi's bedroom and what he was doing in there. I think we know the answer: MJ was never even within a thousand miles of the Maharishi. Obviously, this MJ character is an impostor and informant. Probably he's a plant by the Lurking Reporters. He actually knows less about the Maharishi's private sex life than Jerry Jarvis. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi: A discussion of karma and MJ, was Maharishi
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : It's beginning to look like Barry doesn't want to talk about the Rama levitation event. Maybe that's because he doesn't like feedback, or someone being so rude as to not accept their /pronouncements as the Laws of Nature/. Not accepting feedback seems to be part of Barry's philosophical design. I'm just pointing this out the same way whiners do. Go figure. On 7/24/2014 12:08 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: It shows that he read the posts of Richard with great interest, and formulates his big dream in in life in this way: */The only way you're ever going to see change in the TM organization is for it to implode, fail completely, go bankrupt, and go away. /* */Let him dream on :-)/* It's pretty obvious that Barry and MJ are reading all these posts about the Maharishi with great interest - it's like they are in a trance-induction state. It's probably the only spiritual practice they do all day. It looks like Barry is so disassociated from realty that he didn't even know a civilian plane went down in Ukraine. Go figure. On 7/24/2014 2:09 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ultrarishi, IMO the real problem lies with your sentence MMY never set up a system of self correction. That could never have happened because his philosophy was essentially so narcissistic that he could not imagine the possibility of any decision or policy he made *needing* correction. Just go back and look at all his talks about enlightenment, and how once that is realized, all actions are 100% life-supporting and perfect. He really believed that (I do not), and obviously believed that he was describing himself and his own actions when he described someone enlightened (I don't believe that, either). I'm just pointing this out the same way I do to whiners like Buck, who makes similar complaints about there being no feedback mechanism in the TMO. DUH!...this is *by design*. The entire *concept* is that the TMO is composed of individuals who not only need no possible feedback but should be spared it ever happening, and someone being so rude as to not accept their pronouncements as the Laws Of Nature they are. So my feeling is that appealing to the people who currently run the TMO as if feedback is something they need is an exercise in futility and a waste of time. They run things, and that is how it's going to stay. And they run things the way Maharishi ran things, and *that* is the way it's going to stay as well. The only way you're ever going to see change in the TM organization is for it to implode, fail completely, go bankrupt, and go away. Then and only then can those who actually care about teaching meditation the way it always should have been taught step in and do something. *From:* ultrarishi no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 24, 2014 7:52 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others So, in theory, all of what he said below may be true in a karmic way and in plain mental health. However, I also know that this leads to another problem which when there isn't negative feedback in a system, the system tends to not self correct. Since MMY was all about self referral, the movement missed this point and always shutdown any negative feedback to where the weight of its own karma has hindered its growth and acceptance. As someone who loves the practice of TM and the Siddhis (when I get my sorry ass around to doing them), I find the movement itself wanting. MMY never set up a system of self correction. Purified consciousness alone is not enough to keep things growing and corruption free. There is a lot of evil shit in the world. As one's awareness becomes purified that evil is revealed just as much as the beauty of creation. If atrocities are being committed and the evil doers are being called out I do not see that as reaping bad karma. The bad karma wwould be in NOT speaking up. It is not enough to just set a good example.
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi: A discussion of karma and MJ, was Maharishi
On 7/24/2014 9:53 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I'll try to keep that in mind Michael. But, when you go on record saying certain things, then you might be called upon to back them up. Whether you do, or not, is a different matter. Most of what MJ has posted is just rumor - things we've all heard before. He doesn't seem to be very big on references or citing any peer-reviewed scientific studies published in any learned journals about the mechanics of consciousness. He doesn't even seem to want to talk about anything except his prurient interest in the perverted sexual encounters of others - which he has mentioned at least a dozen times this month. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : that's your projection on my role here, its not mine. I have no role on FFL - I'm just here. *From:* steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:59 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others Hey, it helps to know how you view things. So, since you don't buy in to any of this stuff, your role here is to just point out the idiocy of people who like to discuss such issues, or share their experiences, which you evidently believe have no credence? Just askin' I mean, it is a rather funny use of one's time.
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Richard, talk about impressions and lines on granite! On Friday, July 25, 2014 7:50 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 7/25/2014 6:51 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was being somewhat facetious in my commentary on the origins of so-called vedic wisdom, but I bet I am not far off the mark You got to work really early this morning! Most of the time I start responding to email at 8:00 o'clock when we open the office, but you seem to get up around 5:00 AM and open up the shop. Apparently you just can't wait to post something about the Maharishi. That guy seems to have really had an big impression on you! You may be one of his biggest fans. Go figure. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others I know I commented on this before, but going through things again, more leisurely, this is just a too funny analysis by Michael of those who have chosen a different path. God love him. Somehow Michael, you regularly make the exception the rule. And you are always so sure of yourself. Begs the Dr. Phil question, How's that working for you
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi: A discussion of karma and MJ, was Maharishi
On 7/24/2014 10:47 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: yep - I picture Michael waking up one day, maybe two years from now, sheet marks pressed into his face, You are assuming that Michael can afford any bed sheets, and you may be assuming that Michael has any consciousness, or that he reads the stuff he posts. It may be something he does in his sleep and like a zombie, he just stumbles to his table and automatic starts typing, like he was in some sort of trance-induction state. Obviously, his is disassociated from reality if he thinks anyone is interested in what he does. Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to, /even if it's another anonymous informant using an alias./ Go figure. suddenly coming to consciousness, after a deep night's sleep, rubbing his eyes, and then, ...oh...fuck...I really WROTE THAT?! ...fuck... PS love ya, MJ - hope you are enjoying the game, as much as I am! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I know I commented on this before, but going through things again, more leisurely, this is just a too funny analysis by Michael of those who have chosen a different path. God love him. Somehow Michael, you regularly make the exception the rule. And you are always so sure of yourself. Begs the Dr. Phil question, How's that working for you ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : for me, I have dropped the notion of higher states of consciousness - its all one thing, what some refer to as higher (which carries a connotation of lower states of awareness) are just experiences, none higher and none lower. As I have stated here on FFL before, its just a bunch of made up stuff to make people feel higher, mightier and more important. And I have said before that it started with the ancient Indians who were too lazy or socially inept to live in society. They just wanted to laze around all day and contemplate the universe and when they ate some extra special mushrooms or some such, they said 'Hey! This is how it is! This is REAL reality. So when some traveler came along and said What are you sitting around for! Get yer ass up and do something, the self styled rishi would pontificate about real reality and try to get the traveler to follow his new path so as to get friends and corroboration that the rishi's way of looking at the world was the right one.
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On 7/25/2014 9:33 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richard, talk about impressions and lines on granite! You have to consider your target audience, Share, so you need to understand that my primary debate is with an anonymous informant whose last contact with the TMO is probably close to forty years ago by now. And the other guy, when he was in contact with the movement, worked in food service at the campus student cafeteria twenty or more years ago. That doesn't give us much to go on as far being an informant. Lately I've been trying to keep things on their level - bars and sex. Otherwise it gets too complicated for the other informants. So, it's really refreshing to actually hear from someone who actually know what's going on up there. Thanks. On Friday, July 25, 2014 7:50 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 7/25/2014 6:51 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com mailto:mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was being somewhat facetious in my commentary on the origins of so-called vedic wisdom, but I bet I am not far off the mark You got to work really early this morning! Most of the time I start responding to email at 8:00 o'clock when we open the office, but you seem to get up around 5:00 AM and open up the shop. Apparently you just can't wait to post something about the Maharishi. That guy seems to have really had an big impression on you! You may be one of his biggest fans. Go figure. *From:* steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] mailto:steve.sun...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:36 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others I know I commented on this before, but going through things again, more leisurely, this is just a too funny analysis by Michael of those who have chosen a different path. God love him. Somehow Michael, you regularly make the exception the rule. And you are always so sure of yourself. Begs the Dr. Phil question, How's that working for you
