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this, and how quickly. From: "Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" In the past day or so there have been 30 posts to FFL and 8 to the Peak. Since I am on both forums, I redid my email, sorting them into FFL and Peak folders, and one particular poster also on both goes directly to the trash, so these figures here represent everyone else. The intellects here are much more likely to jump on inconsistencies and sloppy thinking here. There have been a few conversations of note on the peak, but mostly it is kind of tepid with a halo of woo fluff. Without a challenge the mind gets soft. Right now there seems to be a conversation about Vernon Katz's new volume. While here I can wonder what percent of my DNA matched that of Australopithecus Afarensis, or whether Buddha would have liked coffee if he had had access to it. Here you can say what you really think. For example, watching Maharishi on tapes some 35 years ago, I was watching him pounding a flower against his face chuckling to himself and I was really thinking, is this guy some kind of saint or a daemon, it was like there was this experience of a dark thread running through that session. I have lately been reading a bit about sociopaths, and it certainly does not seem inconceivable that Maharishi was a sociopath considering the way he dealt with people and because of his incredible focus on getting what he wanted. There are certain features of sociopathy and states developed via meditation that cross over, and 'bad' socipathic traits might get enhanced by practice. From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor! From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL. I was going to make the same comment. :-) I just took my first ever look at the Peak, it's a bit too anodyne for my taste but I totally get why they didn't like hanging around with us! I'm almost embarrassed at having actual opinions about things. At least now you understand the irony I've been pointing out about The_Leak since its inception. People like Ann, Steve (seventhray), and Buck *claim* that they're there on The_Leak because it's higher vibe and they prefer that. But at the same time they make a surprising number of posts *about* FFL. And *in* those posts they make it clear that they still come to FFL and *read every word of every post made by the people they hated while they were here* -- you, me, and Michael. What's up with that, eh? The_Leak is "higher vibe," but they can't get their rocks off without slumming at FFL? Meanwhile, while claiming "28 members," the 107 posts made on The_Leak in the last week were primarily made by 5 people, with another 4 contributing one each. Compare and contrast to contentious and "abyss-mal" Fairfield Life, which during its last full week contained 321 posts, made by 18 people, with another 8 contributing one post each. (And in fact -- and to counter your assertion that they "don't like hanging around with us" -- three of The_Leak members posted more *here* on FFL than they did there.) I stand by my original predictions -- I don't see The_Leak surviving. I see it headed for the same fate as the similarly anodyne BATGAP messages forum, which still nominally has 116 members, but which had ZERO posts last week. Statistics don't lie -- there simply is no lasting market for namby-pamby. What's going to be fascinating is how Jimbo is going to try to spin things when The_Leak fails and he comes back here seeking his attention fix. Now THAT is going to be entertaining. :-)
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"There was lots of stuff, from filling a room with golden light to opening up portals to other dimensions and letting us see what was on the other side. It was really neat. And he *also* killed himself." - TurquoiseB ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thanks (I guess) for your comments about my and Curtis' past comments trying to psychologically lay-diagnose Maharishi and other spiritual teachers we have worked with. Some may pooh-pooh this as low-vibe or "materialistic" or whatever, but I for one think that as a species we *have* learned some valuable things from psychology and psychiatry, and although neither of those fields are probably any closer to determining what "truth" is than their religious or spiritual counterpart fields are, I think we can use some of their findings to help us in finding the answers we seek about our own experiences as human beings. In my case, I have never presented myself as a psychologist or psychiatrist. I took a few psychology courses in college. But then it was the 1960s and I "majored in changing majors," so I took a few courses in pretty much everything. The only degree programs that allowed me to do this and still rack up all of the course credits I had earned towards an actual degree were Sociology and English, so those disciplines are what my degree is in. :-) All of this is a way of saying that most of what I've learned about psychology was learned long after I worked with any of the spiritual teachers I have known. After bailing from TM, I hung out on my own (without benefit of spiritual leadership) for a while in L.A., but then ran into the Rama guy, and spent the next few years with him. When I finally bailed on his trip too, one of the first things I did was to move to a different town, one whose only draw was that I had always wanted to say "I lived there" at some point in the future. Voila. Color me rolling in to Santa Fe, New Mexico -- free of spiritual teachers, free of sanghas, and trying desperately to become free of all the stuff that they had imprinted me with. As fate would have it, one of the first friends I ran into there in Santa Fe at the Downtown Subscription cafe that became my second home was a psychologist/psychiatrist. We became friends first, because we were both displaying more than a touch of grey, because we enjoyed talking with each other, and because we had mutually chosen this particular cafe to do our talking in. So we'd meet pretty much every morning and chat with each other and with other friends over coffee. Neither of us had any agenda whatsoever. We wuz just talkin' shit over coffee before starting the day. Thus it took some time -- probably a couple of years -- before we mutually discovered that he was a fairly well-known expert on a type of mental illness known as Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and that I was a former cultist who had spent nearly three decades studying with spiritual teachers who could accurately be described as suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder. When we finally discovered this, it was Kismet -- thereafter I learned from him, and he learned from me. His experience as a therapist had been with dealing with NPD in primarily one-on-one situations -- NPD husbands who had tried to dominate their wives, friends, and/or employees, or vice-versa -- and my experience was more along the lines of what this personality disorder he was teaching me about looked like when it occurred in a GROUP, and the attempts at domination were more widespread. For the record, given everything I learned in subsequent discussions with my friend over coffee, I firmly believe that Frederick Lenz-Rama met the DSM-IV definitions of Narcissistic Personality Disorder 100%, and that Maharishi met them, too, but to a somewhat lesser degree...maybe 90%. But just because you're studying with a person who can be accurately diagnosed as suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disoder, that doesn't mean that they can't teach you anything useful. They can. And I try to honor those useful things that both Maharishi and the Rama dude taught me to this day, even though both of them were (as I see it today) Bat Shit Crazy. :-) From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In the past day or so there have been 30 posts to FFL and 8 to the Peak. Since I am on both forums, I redid my email, sorting them into FFL and Peak folders, and one particular poster also on both goes directly to the trash, so these figures here represent everyone else. The intellects here are much more likely to jump on inconsistencies and sloppy thinking here. There have been a few conversations of note on th
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I just took my first ever look at the Peak, it's a bit too anodyne for my taste but I totally get why they didn't like hanging around with us! I'm almost embarrassed at having actual opinions about things. So, you trolled over to The_Peak to see what Ann was saying about you and your name wasn't even mentioned once. I wonder why. LoL! "Try not to be a cunt." Salya, FFL 11/30/2014 From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor! Image Gallery: http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm Salyavin: Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are. (Fossilized consciousness moved over to the Peak, except for a few stragglers) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : you mean there is no artistic rendering of what this person looked like from this piece of bone? How unimaginative! Not yet but scientists have been speculating on his intelligence and lifestyle: From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor! Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are. Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known human lineage remains http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known h... http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Around 400,000 years older than previous discovery of homo lineage, 2.8m-year-old jaw and five teeth was found poking out of rocky slope in Afar region View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Preview by Yahoo
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So, it's all about Jim and Richard at The_Peak. LoL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL. I was going to make the same comment. :-) I just took my first ever look at the Peak, it's a bit too anodyne for my taste but I totally get why they didn't like hanging around with us! I'm almost embarrassed at having actual opinions about things. At least now you understand the irony I've been pointing out about The_Leak since its inception. People like Ann, Steve (seventhray), and Buck *claim* that they're there on The_Leak because it's higher vibe and they prefer that. But at the same time they make a surprising number of posts *about* FFL. And *in* those posts they make it clear that they still come to FFL and *read every word of every post made by the people they hated while they were here* -- you, me, and Michael. What's up with that, eh? The_Leak is "higher vibe," but they can't get their rocks off without slumming at FFL? Meanwhile, while claiming "28 members," the 107 posts made on The_Leak in the last week were primarily made by 5 people, with another 4 contributing one each. Compare and contrast to contentious and "abyss-mal" Fairfield Life, which during its last full week contained 321 posts, made by 18 people, with another 8 contributing one post each. (And in fact -- and to counter your assertion that they "don't like hanging around with us" -- three of The_Leak members posted more *here* on FFL than they did there.) I stand by my original predictions -- I don't see The_Leak surviving. I see it headed for the same fate as the similarly anodyne BATGAP messages forum, which still nominally has 116 members, but which had ZERO posts last week. Statistics don't lie -- there simply is no lasting market for namby-pamby. What's going to be fascinating is how Jimbo is going to try to spin things when The_Leak fails and he comes back here seeking his attention fix. Now THAT is going to be entertaining. :-)
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In the past day or so there have been 30 posts to FFL and 8 to the Peak. Isn't that just like a passive-aggressive - at work, instead of doing their job, they troll to social media and if anyone says something they don't like or disagree with, they just use a company machine, on company time, and make a Yahoo filter to send critical messages to the trash without even reading them. Classic. "deliberate or repeated failure to accomplish requested tasks for which one is (often explicitly) responsible." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-aggressive_behavior http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-aggressive_behavior Since I am on both forums, I redid my email, sorting them into FFL and Peak folders, and one particular poster also on both goes directly to the trash, so these figures here represent everyone else. The intellects here are much more likely to jump on inconsistencies and sloppy thinking here. There have been a few conversations of note on the peak, but mostly it is kind of tepid with a halo of woo fluff. Without a challenge the mind gets soft. Right now there seems to be a conversation about Vernon Katz's new volume. While here I can wonder what percent of my DNA matched that of Australopithecus Afarensis, or whether Buddha would have liked coffee if he had had access to it. Here you can say what you really think. For example, watching Maharishi on tapes some 35 years ago, I was watching him pounding a flower against his face chuckling to himself and I was really thinking, is this guy some kind of saint or a daemon, it was like there was this experience of a dark thread running through that session. I have lately been reading a bit about sociopaths, and it certainly does not seem inconceivable that Maharishi was a sociopath considering the way he dealt with people and because of his incredible focus on getting what he wanted. There are certain features of sociopathy and states developed via meditation that cross over, and 'bad' socipathic traits might get enhanced by practice. From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor! From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL. I was going to make the same comment. :-) I just took my first ever look at the Peak, it's a bit too anodyne for my taste but I totally get why they didn't like hanging around with us! I'm almost embarrassed at having actual opinions about things. At least now you understand the irony I've been pointing out about The_Leak since its inception. People like Ann, Steve (seventhray), and Buck *claim* that they're there on The_Leak because it's higher vibe and they prefer that. But at the same time they make a surprising number of posts *about* FFL. And *in* those posts they make it clear that they still come to FFL and *read every word of every post made by the people they hated while they were here* -- you, me, and Michael. What's up with that, eh? The_Leak is "higher vibe," but they can't get their rocks off without slumming at FFL? Meanwhile, while claiming "28 members," the 107 posts made on The_Leak in the last week were primarily made by 5 people, with another 4 contributing one each. Compare and contrast to contentious and "abyss-mal" Fairfield Life, which during its last full week contained 321 posts, made by 18 people, with another 8 contributing one post each. (And in fact -- and to counter your assertion that they "don't like hanging around with us" -- three of The_Leak members posted more *here* on FFL than they did there.) I stand by my original predictions -- I don't see The_Leak surviving. I see it headed for the same fate as the similarly anodyne BATGAP messages forum, which still nominally has 116 members, but which had ZERO posts last week. Statistics don't lie -- there simply is no lasting market for namby-pamby. What's going to be fascinating is how Jimbo is going to try to spin things when The_Leak fails and he comes back here seeking his attention fix. Now THAT is going to be entertaining. :-)
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Thanks (I guess) for your comments about my and Curtis' past comments trying to psychologically lay-diagnose Maharishi and other spiritual teachers we have worked with. Some may pooh-pooh this as low-vibe or "materialistic" or whatever, but I for one think that as a species we *have* learned some valuable things from psychology and psychiatry, and although neither of those fields are probably any closer to determining what "truth" is than their religious or spiritual counterpart fields are, I think we can use some of their findings to help us in finding the answers we seek about our own experiences as human beings. In my case, I have never presented myself as a psychologist or psychiatrist. I took a few psychology courses in college. But then it was the 1960s and I "majored in changing majors," so I took a few courses in pretty much everything. The only degree programs that allowed me to do this and still rack up all of the course credits I had earned towards an actual degree were Sociology and English, so those disciplines are what my degree is in. :-) All of this is a way of saying that most of what I've learned about psychology was learned long after I worked with any of the spiritual teachers I have known. After bailing from TM, I hung out on my own (without benefit of spiritual leadership) for a while in L.A., but then ran into the Rama guy, and spent the next few years with him. When I finally bailed on his trip too, one of the first things I did was to move to a different town, one whose only draw was that I had always wanted to say "I lived there" at some point in the future. Voila. Color me rolling in to Santa Fe, New Mexico -- free of spiritual teachers, free of sanghas, and trying desperately to become free of all the stuff that they had imprinted me with. As fate would have it, one of the first friends I ran into there in Santa Fe at the Downtown Subscription cafe that became my second home was a psychologist/psychiatrist. We became friends first, because we were both displaying more than a touch of grey, because we enjoyed talking with each other, and because we had mutually chosen this particular cafe to do our talking in. So we'd meet pretty much every morning and chat with each other and with other friends over coffee. Neither of us had any agenda whatsoever. We wuz just talkin' shit over coffee before starting the day. Thus it took some time -- probably a couple of years -- before we mutually discovered that he was a fairly well-known expert on a type of mental illness known as Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and that I was a former cultist who had spent nearly three decades studying with spiritual teachers who could accurately be described as suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder. When we finally discovered this, it was Kismet -- thereafter I learned from him, and he learned from me. His experience as a therapist had been with dealing with NPD in primarily one-on-one situations -- NPD husbands who had tried to dominate their wives, friends, and/or employees, or vice-versa -- and my experience was more along the lines of what this personality disorder he was teaching me about looked like when it occurred in a GROUP, and the attempts at domination were more widespread. For the record, given everything I learned in subsequent discussions with my friend over coffee, I firmly believe that Frederick Lenz-Rama met the DSM-IV definitions of Narcissistic Personality Disorder 100%, and that Maharishi met them, too, but to a somewhat lesser degree...maybe 90%. But just because you're studying with a person who can be accurately diagnosed as suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disoder, that doesn't mean that they can't teach you anything useful. They can. And I try to honor those useful things that both Maharishi and the Rama dude taught me to this day, even though both of them were (as I see it today) Bat Shit Crazy. :-) From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In the past day or so there have been 30 posts to FFL and 8 to the Peak. Since I am on both forums, I redid my email, sorting them into FFL and Peak folders, and one particular poster also on both goes directly to the trash, so these figures here represent everyone else. The intellects here are much more likely to jump on inconsistencies and sloppy thinking here. There have been a few conversations of note on the peak, but mostly it is kind of tepid with a halo of woo fluff. Without a challenge the mind gets soft. Right now there seems to be a conversation about Vernon Katz's new volume. While here I can wonder what percent of my DNA matched that of Australopithecus Afarensis, or whether Buddha would have liked
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I think that one of the things that contributes to the lack of intellectual rigor on The_Leak is that at least a couple of people there have had experiences that they interpreted as enlightenment. Yeah, let's talk about enlightenment experiences. LoL! "I've experienced enlightenment many times. In my case, these were fleeting experiences, and they come and go, and furthermore, BFD. These experiences were very real to me, and I am comfortable with talking about them as if they were real." http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg96217.html http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg96217.html Both had been brought up in the Maharishi tradition, and he taught (erroneously, I believe) that when one is enlightened, everything one thinks and every action one performs is "in accord with the laws of nature". Thus people began to believe that "If I am enlightened, everything I think will be true because it HAS to be true." This, of course, is a crock of shit. If anyone needed proof of this, all we have to do is examine the number of times that Maharishi himself was patently wrong in the things he said and the ideas he came up with. But the students grew up being told that when they are enlightened they are "home free," and never have to worry with little things like discrimination and using their brains again, because *whatever* they think, it will by definition be true. When people who have been taught this then have some minor spiritual experiences, they tend to overvalue them and believe that they're major spiritual experiences, and claim to be enlightened. And naturally at that point, believing what they do, they start to believe that *everything they think is true and correct*. They think, "Because I am now enlightened, there is no *possibility* that anything I think can be incorrect or false." Therefore they stop using discrimination at all. They just speak in "pronouncements," and expect people to buy them as Truth the way they bought the things that Maharishi said as Truth. And then it doesn't happen. They say something or write something and someone responds with disbelief. Or worse, laughter. Or these disbelievers actually demand proof of what the Person-Who-Thinks-He's-Enlightened claims and assumes is Truth. And they DON'T LIKE IT. They want people to treat them the way they treated Maharishi, by giving him a free pass on *anything* he said. So *naturally* people like this would prefer an environment in which no one ever questions what *anyone* says, and in which no one *ever* uses discrimination and intelligence to assess whether what someone claims is true really is. They want a fantasy environment in which everyone treats whatever *they* say as if it is *by definition* Truth, just because they said it. And in environments like this, minds get lazy. I think what you're perceiving, Xeno, is how far the quality of discussion degenerates in a lazy environment like this, and how quickly. From: "Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" In the past day or so there have been 30 posts to FFL and 8 to the Peak. Since I am on both forums, I redid my email, sorting them into FFL and Peak folders, and one particular poster also on both goes directly to the trash, so these figures here represent everyone else. The intellects here are much more likely to jump on inconsistencies and sloppy thinking here. There have been a few conversations of note on the peak, but mostly it is kind of tepid with a halo of woo fluff. Without a challenge the mind gets soft. Right now there seems to be a conversation about Vernon Katz's new volume. While here I can wonder what percent of my DNA matched that of Australopithecus Afarensis, or whether Buddha would have liked coffee if he had had access to it. Here you can say what you really think. For example, watching Maharishi on tapes some 35 years ago, I was watching him pounding a flower against his face chuckling to himself and I was really thinking, is this guy some kind of saint or a daemon, it was like there was this experience of a dark thread running through that session. I have lately been reading a bit about sociopaths, and it certainly does not seem inconceivable that Maharishi was a sociopath considering the way he dealt with people and because of his incredible focus on getting what he wanted. There are certain features of sociopathy and states developed via meditation that cross over, and 'bad' socipathic traits might get enhanced by practice. From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : T urq and Curtis did some excellent posts a while back on the subject of Marshy's mental health. According to Judy, Barry and Curtis are liars and I've yet to find any lies posted by Judy on FFL. Come to think of it, Judy also said that Xeno and Salya were liars too. I mean, if these hombres lied about the TMO for all those years, who would believe anything they say now? Go figure. Subject: Bet it was a nice party Author: Michael Jackson Group: Yahoo! FairfieldLife Date: August 28, 2013 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/355604 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/355604 Narcissistic personality disorder and borderline sociopathy seemed to be excellent matches for a lot of the observed behaviour of the Reesh. And all of it was as intellectually justified and cogently delivered as you would expect from those two. If only Neo provided us with a decent search facility as it was a conversation worth revisiting and it wasn't just a case of trying to provoke a response from the TB's, but a serious attempt at explaining a lot of what we just mutely accepted as advanced behaviour when we were in the gang, but was really manipulative and self-aggrandising. It's hard to dismiss the possibility that what we saw in our great leader wasn't something to aspire to but something to avoid at all costs. From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor! From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL. I was going to make the same comment. :-) I just took my first ever look at the Peak, it's a bit too anodyne for my taste but I totally get why they didn't like hanging around with us! I'm almost embarrassed at having actual opinions about things. At least now you understand the irony I've been pointing out about The_Leak since its inception. People like Ann, Steve (seventhray), and Buck *claim* that they're there on The_Leak because it's higher vibe and they prefer that. But at the same time they make a surprising number of posts *about* FFL. And *in* those posts they make it clear that they still come to FFL and *read every word of every post made by the people they hated while they were here* -- you, me, and Michael. What's up with that, eh? The_Leak is "higher vibe," but they can't get their rocks off without slumming at FFL? Meanwhile, while claiming "28 members," the 107 posts made on The_Leak in the last week were primarily made by 5 people, with another 4 contributing one each. Compare and contrast to contentious and "abyss-mal" Fairfield Life, which during its last full week contained 321 posts, made by 18 people, with another 8 contributing one post each. (And in fact -- and to counter your assertion that they "don't like hanging around with us" -- three of The_Leak members posted more *here* on FFL than they did there.) I stand by my original predictions -- I don't see The_Leak surviving. I see it headed for the same fate as the similarly anodyne BATGAP messages forum, which still nominally has 116 members, but which had ZERO posts last week. Statistics don't lie -- there simply is no lasting market for namby-pamby. What's going to be fascinating is how Jimbo is going to try to spin things when The_Leak fails and he comes back here seeking his attention fix. Now THAT is going to be entertaining. :-)
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So, it's all about The_Peak. Maybe we should take a closer look at all the FFL messages posted by jamesalan735, and maybe we can find out why he keeps lurking over there and trying to get the posters over here interested in what Jim and Richard have to say. Obviously what is being said here is not interesting enough, so jamesalan must be addicted to going over there. Go figure. http://tinyurl.com/n6ukxv8 http://tinyurl.com/n6ukxv8 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Oh, I don't know, the Peak has more than a 'Like' button. I've seen a much wider range of comments over there: Oh, Fleet, you're so funny Well, I try..:):):) Now, that I get you Richard, I really think you're too funny! (Yep, that or something like it was actually posted by someone) Love you! Love you more! And - a sure sign that the Peak is on to something - I just looked at their numbers, and guess what I saw? They currently have exactly 108 post in the last 7 days. 108!!. Now, please don't try and deny that this means something. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The skimming I've done of it indicates to me that, as a forum, it has all the intellectual rigor of Facebook: "Any culture with only a 'Like' button and no 'Don't Like' button is the equivalent of mental pablum." (author unknown) As you say, I certainly see why the people who are comfortable there *are* comfortable there. Given the Facebook quote above (which I love), I'm waiting for Jimbo to implement a "Like Me!" button any day now. :-) :-) :-) From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL. I was going to make the same comment. :-) I just took my first ever look at the Peak, it's a bit too anodyne for my taste but I totally get why they didn't like hanging around with us! I'm almost embarrassed at having actual opinions about things. From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Image Gallery: http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm Salyavin: Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are. (Fossilized consciousness moved over to the Peak, except for a few stragglers) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : you mean there is no artistic rendering of what this person looked like from this piece of bone? How unimaginative! Not yet but scientists have been speculating on his intelligence and lifestyle: From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor! Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are. Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known human lineage remains http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known h... http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Around 400,000 years older than previous discovery of homo lineage, 2.8m-year-old jaw and five teeth was found poking out of rocky slope in Afar region View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Preview by Yahoo Yes, being " From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL. I was going to make the same comment. :-) I just took my first ever look at the Peak, it's a bit too anodyne for my taste but I totally get why they didn't like hanging around with us! I'm almost embarrassed at having actual opinions about things. From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Image Gallery: http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm Salyavin: Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are. (Fossilized consciousness moved over to the Peak, except for a few stragglers) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.c
Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
Oh, I don't know, the Peak has more than a 'Like' button. I've seen a much wider range of comments over there: Oh, Fleet, you're so funny Well, I try..:):):) Now, that I get you Richard, I really think you're too funny! (Yep, that or something like it was actually posted by someone) Love you! Love you more! And - a sure sign that the Peak is on to something - I just looked at their numbers, and guess what I saw? They currently have exactly 108 post in the last 7 days. 108!!. Now, please don't try and deny that this means something. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The skimming I've done of it indicates to me that, as a forum, it has all the intellectual rigor of Facebook: "Any culture with only a 'Like' button and no 'Don't Like' button is the equivalent of mental pablum." (author unknown) As you say, I certainly see why the people who are comfortable there *are* comfortable there. Given the Facebook quote above (which I love), I'm waiting for Jimbo to implement a "Like Me!" button any day now. :-) :-) :-) From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL. I was going to make the same comment. :-) I just took my first ever look at the Peak, it's a bit too anodyne for my taste but I totally get why they didn't like hanging around with us! I'm almost embarrassed at having actual opinions about things. From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Image Gallery: http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm Salyavin: Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are. (Fossilized consciousness moved over to the Peak, except for a few stragglers) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : you mean there is no artistic rendering of what this person looked like from this piece of bone? How unimaginative! Not yet but scientists have been speculating on his intelligence and lifestyle: From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor! Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are. Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known human lineage remains http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known h... http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Around 400,000 years older than previous discovery of homo lineage, 2.8m-year-old jaw and five teeth was found poking out of rocky slope in Afar region View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Preview by Yahoo Yes, being " From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL. I was going to make the same comment. :-) I just took my first ever look at the Peak, it's a bit too anodyne for my taste but I totally get why they didn't like hanging around with us! I'm almost embarrassed at having actual opinions about things. From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Image Gallery: http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm Salyavin: Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are. (Fossilized consciousness moved over to the Peak, except for a few stragglers) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : you mean there is no artistic rendering of what this person looked like from this piece of bone? How unimaginative! Not yet but scientists have been speculating on his intelligence and lifestyle: From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor! Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we co
Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In the past day or so there have been 30 posts to FFL and 8 to the Peak. Since I am on both forums, I redid my email, sorting them into FFL and Peak folders, and one particular poster also on both goes directly to the trash, so these figures here represent everyone else. The intellects here are much more likely to jump on inconsistencies and sloppy thinking here. There have been a few conversations of note on the peak, but mostly it is kind of tepid with a halo of woo fluff. Without a challenge the mind gets soft. Right now there seems to be a conversation about Vernon Katz's new volume. While here I can wonder what percent of my DNA matched that of Australopithecus Afarensis, or whether Buddha would have liked coffee if he had had access to it. Here you can say what you really think. For example, watching Maharishi on tapes some 35 years ago, I was watching him pounding a flower against his face chuckling to himself and I was really thinking, is this guy some kind of saint or a daemon, it was like there was this experience of a dark thread running through that session. I have lately been reading a bit about sociopaths, and it certainly does not seem inconceivable that Maharishi was a sociopath considering the way he dealt with people and because of his incredible focus on getting what he wanted. There are certain features of sociopathy and states developed via meditation that cross over, and 'bad' socipathic traits might get enhanced by practice. Turq and Curtis did some excellent posts a while back on the subject of Marshy's mental health. Narcissistic personality disorder and borderline sociopathy seemed to be excellent matches for a lot of the observed behaviour of the Reesh. And all of it was as intellectually justified and cogently delivered as you would expect from those two. If only Neo provided us with a decent search facility as it was a conversation worth revisiting and it wasn't just a case of trying to provoke a response from the TB's, but a serious attempt at explaining a lot of what we just mutely accepted as advanced behaviour when we were in the gang, but was really manipulative and self-aggrandising. It's hard to dismiss the possibility that what we saw in our great leader wasn't something to aspire to but something to avoid at all costs. From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor! From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL. I was going to make the same comment. :-) I just took my first ever look at the Peak, it's a bit too anodyne for my taste but I totally get why they didn't like hanging around with us! I'm almost embarrassed at having actual opinions about things. At least now you understand the irony I've been pointing out about The_Leak since its inception. People like Ann, Steve (seventhray), and Buck *claim* that they're there on The_Leak because it's higher vibe and they prefer that. But at the same time they make a surprising number of posts *about* FFL. And *in* those posts they make it clear that they still come to FFL and *read every word of every post made by the people they hated while they were here* -- you, me, and Michael. What's up with that, eh? The_Leak is "higher vibe," but they can't get their rocks off without slumming at FFL? Meanwhile, while claiming "28 members," the 107 posts made on The_Leak in the last week were primarily made by 5 people, with another 4 contributing one each. Compare and contrast to contentious and "abyss-mal" Fairfield Life, which during its last full week contained 321 posts, made by 18 people, with another 8 contributing one post each. (And in fact -- and to counter your assertion that they "don't like hanging around with us" -- three of The_Leak members posted more *here* on FFL than they did there.) I stand by my original predictions -- I don't see The_Leak surviving. I see it headed for the same fate as the similarly anodyne BATGAP messages forum, which still nominally has 116 members, but which had ZERO posts last week. Statistics don't lie -- there simply is no lasting market for namby-pamby. What's going to be fascinating is how Jimbo is going to try to spin things when The_Leak fails and he comes back here seeking his attention fix. Now THAT is going to be entertaining. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
I think that one of the things that contributes to the lack of intellectual rigor on The_Leak is that at least a couple of people there have had experiences that they interpreted as enlightenment. Both had been brought up in the Maharishi tradition, and he taught (erroneously, I believe) that when one is enlightened, everything one thinks and every action one performs is "in accord with the laws of nature". Thus people began to believe that "If I am enlightened, everything I think will be true because it HAS to be true." This, of course, is a crock of shit. If anyone needed proof of this, all we have to do is examine the number of times that Maharishi himself was patently wrong in the things he said and the ideas he came up with. But the students grew up being told that when they are enlightened they are "home free," and never have to worry with little things like discrimination and using their brains again, because *whatever* they think, it will by definition be true. When people who have been taught this then have some minor spiritual experiences, they tend to overvalue them and believe that they're major spiritual experiences, and claim to be enlightened. And naturally at that point, believing what they do, they start to believe that *everything they think is true and correct*. They think, "Because I am now enlightened, there is no *possibility* that anything I think can be incorrect or false." Therefore they stop using discrimination at all. They just speak in "pronouncements," and expect people to buy them as Truth the way they bought the things that Maharishi said as Truth. And then it doesn't happen. They say something or write something and someone responds with disbelief. Or worse, laughter. Or these disbelievers actually demand proof of what the Person-Who-Thinks-He's-Enlightened claims and assumes is Truth. And they DON'T LIKE IT. They want people to treat them the way they treated Maharishi, by giving him a free pass on *anything* he said. So *naturally* people like this would prefer an environment in which no one ever questions what *anyone* says, and in which no one *ever* uses discrimination and intelligence to assess whether what someone claims is true really is. They want a fantasy environment in which everyone treats whatever *they* say as if it is *by definition* Truth, just because they said it. And in environments like this, minds get lazy. I think what you're perceiving, Xeno, is how far the quality of discussion degenerates in a lazy environment like this, and how quickly. From: "Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" In the past day or so there have been 30 posts to FFL and 8 to the Peak. Since I am on both forums, I redid my email, sorting them into FFL and Peak folders, and one particular poster also on both goes directly to the trash, so these figures here represent everyone else. The intellects here are much more likely to jump on inconsistencies and sloppy thinking here. There have been a few conversations of note on the peak, but mostly it is kind of tepid with a halo of woo fluff. Without a challenge the mind gets soft. Right now there seems to be a conversation about Vernon Katz's new volume. While here I can wonder what percent of my DNA matched that of Australopithecus Afarensis, or whether Buddha would have liked coffee if he had had access to it. Here you can say what you really think. For example, watching Maharishi on tapes some 35 years ago, I was watching him pounding a flower against his face chuckling to himself and I was really thinking, is this guy some kind of saint or a daemon, it was like there was this experience of a dark thread running through that session. I have lately been reading a bit about sociopaths, and it certainly does not seem inconceivable that Maharishi was a sociopath considering the way he dealt with people and because of his incredible focus on getting what he wanted. There are certain features of sociopathy and states developed via meditation that cross over, and 'bad' socipathic traits might get enhanced by practice. From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor! From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL. I was going to make the same comment. :-) I just took my first ever look at the Peak, it's a bit too anodyne for my taste but I totally get why they didn't like hanging around with us! I'm almost embarrassed at having actual opinions about things. At least now you understand the irony I've been pointing out about The_Leak since its inception. People like Ann, Steve (seventhray), and Buck *claim* that they're t
Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
In the past day or so there have been 30 posts to FFL and 8 to the Peak. Since
I am on both forums, I redid my email, sorting them into FFL and Peak folders,
and one particular poster also on both goes directly to the trash, so these
figures here represent everyone else. The intellects here are much more likely
to jump on inconsistencies and sloppy thinking here. There have been a few
conversations of note on the peak, but mostly it is kind of tepid with a halo
of woo fluff. Without a challenge the mind gets soft. Right now there seems to
be a conversation about Vernon Katz's new volume. While here I can wonder what
percent of my DNA matched that of Australopithecus Afarensis, or whether Buddha
would have liked coffee if he had had access to it. Here you can say what you
really think. For example, watching Maharishi on tapes some 35 years ago, I was
watching him pounding a flower against his face chuckling to himself and I was
really thinking, is this guy some kind of saint or a daemon, it was like there
was this experience of a dark thread running through that session. I have
lately been reading a bit about sociopaths, and it certainly does not seem
inconceivable that Maharishi was a sociopath considering the way he dealt with
people and because of his incredible focus on getting what he wanted. There are
certain features of sociopathy and states developed via meditation that cross
over, and 'bad' socipathic traits might get enhanced by practice.
From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
From: salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
LOL. I was going to make the same comment. :-)
I just took my first ever look at the Peak, it's a bit too anodyne for my taste
but I totally get why they didn't like hanging around with us! I'm almost
embarrassed at having actual opinions about things.
At least now you understand the irony I've been pointing out about The_Leak
since its inception. People like Ann, Steve (seventhray), and Buck *claim* that
they're there on The_Leak because it's higher vibe and they prefer that. But at
the same time they make a surprising number of posts *about* FFL. And *in*
those posts they make it clear that they still come to FFL and *read every word
of every post made by the people they hated while they were here* -- you, me,
and Michael. What's up with that, eh? The_Leak is "higher vibe," but they can't
get their rocks off without slumming at FFL?
Meanwhile, while claiming "28 members," the 107 posts made on The_Leak in the
last week were primarily made by 5 people, with another 4 contributing one
each. Compare and contrast to contentious and "abyss-mal" Fairfield Life, which
during its last full week contained 321 posts, made by 18 people, with another
8 contributing one post each. (And in fact -- and to counter your assertion
that they "don't like hanging around with us" -- three of The_Leak members
posted more *here* on FFL than they did there.)
I stand by my original predictions -- I don't see The_Leak surviving. I see it
headed for the same fate as the similarly anodyne BATGAP messages forum, which
still nominally has 116 members, but which had ZERO posts last week. Statistics
don't lie -- there simply is no lasting market for namby-pamby.
What's going to be fascinating is how Jimbo is going to try to spin things when
The_Leak fails and he comes back here seeking his attention fix. Now THAT is
going to be entertaining. :-)
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL. I was going to make the same comment. :-) I just took my first ever look at the Peak, it's a bit too anodyne for my taste but I totally get why they didn't like hanging around with us! I'm almost embarrassed at having actual opinions about things. At least now you understand the irony I've been pointing out about The_Leak since its inception. People like Ann, Steve (seventhray), and Buck *claim* that they're there on The_Leak because it's higher vibe and they prefer that. But at the same time they make a surprising number of posts *about* FFL. And *in* those posts they make it clear that they still come to FFL and *read every word of every post made by the people they hated while they were here* -- you, me, and Michael. What's up with that, eh? The_Leak is "higher vibe," but they can't get their rocks off without slumming at FFL? Meanwhile, while claiming "28 members," the 107 posts made on The_Leak in the last week were primarily made by 5 people, with another 4 contributing one each. Compare and contrast to contentious and "abyss-mal" Fairfield Life, which during its last full week contained 321 posts, made by 18 people, with another 8 contributing one post each. (And in fact -- and to counter your assertion that they "don't like hanging around with us" -- three of The_Leak members posted more *here* on FFL than they did there.) I stand by my original predictions -- I don't see The_Leak surviving. I see it headed for the same fate as the similarly anodyne BATGAP messages forum, which still nominally has 116 members, but which had ZERO posts last week. Statistics don't lie -- there simply is no lasting market for namby-pamby. What's going to be fascinating is how Jimbo is going to try to spin things when The_Leak fails and he comes back here seeking his attention fix. Now THAT is going to be entertaining. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
From: salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
It's probably a commentary of some sort on me that I had to look up the meaning
of "anodyne." :-)
Being "not likely to cause offence or disagreement and somewhat dull" is
something to be avoided I think.
As the great man said:
"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in
your life." - Winston Churchill.
The skimming I've done of it indicates to me that, as a forum, it has all the
intellectual rigor of Facebook: "Any culture with only a 'Like' button and no
'Don't Like' button is the equivalent of mental pablum." (author unknown)
As you say, I certainly see why the people who are comfortable there *are*
comfortable there. Given the Facebook quote above (which I love), I'm waiting
for Jimbo to implement a "Like Me!" button any day now. :-) :-) :-)
From: salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
LOL. I was going to make the same comment. :-)
I just took my first ever look at the Peak, it's a bit too anodyne for my taste
but I totally get why they didn't like hanging around with us! I'm almost
embarrassed at having actual opinions about things.
From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Image
Gallery:http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm
Salyavin:Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could
fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are.
(Fossilized consciousness moved over to the Peak, except for a few stragglers)
:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
you mean there is no artistic rendering of what this person looked like from
this piece of bone? How unimaginative!
Not yet but scientists have been speculating on his intelligence and lifestyle:
From: salyavin808
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:45 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we
could understand how we got to be how we are.
Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known human lineage remains
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Yes, being "
From: salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
LOL. I was going to make the same comment. :-)
I just took my first ever look at the Peak, it's a bit too anodyne for my taste
but I totally get why they didn't like hanging around with us! I'm almost
embarrassed at having actual opinions about things.
From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Image
Gallery:http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm
Salyavin:Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could
fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are.
(Fossilized consciousness moved over to the Peak, except for a few stragglers)
:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
you mean there is no artistic rendering of what this person looked like from
this piece of bone? How unimaginative!
Not yet but scientists have been speculating on his intelligence and lifestyle:
From: salyavin808
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:45 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we
could understand how we got to be how we are.
Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known human lineage remains
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| Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known h... Around 400,000
years older than previous discovery of homo lineage, 2.8m-year-old jaw and five
teeth was found poking out of rocky slope in Afar region |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It's probably a commentary of some sort on me that I had to look up the meaning of "anodyne." :-) Being "not likely to cause offence or disagreement and somewhat dull" is something to be avoided I think. As the great man said: "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill. From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL. I was going to make the same comment. :-) I just took my first ever look at the Peak, it's a bit too anodyne for my taste but I totally get why they didn't like hanging around with us! I'm almost embarrassed at having actual opinions about things. From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Image Gallery: http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm Salyavin: Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are. (Fossilized consciousness moved over to the Peak, except for a few stragglers) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : you mean there is no artistic rendering of what this person looked like from this piece of bone? How unimaginative! Not yet but scientists have been speculating on his intelligence and lifestyle: From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor! Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are. Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known human lineage remains http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known h... http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Around 400,000 years older than previous discovery of homo lineage, 2.8m-year-old jaw and five teeth was found poking out of rocky slope in Afar region View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Preview by Yahoo Yes, being " From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL. I was going to make the same comment. :-) I just took my first ever look at the Peak, it's a bit too anodyne for my taste but I totally get why they didn't like hanging around with us! I'm almost embarrassed at having actual opinions about things. From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Image Gallery: http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm Salyavin: Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are. (Fossilized consciousness moved over to the Peak, except for a few stragglers) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : you mean there is no artistic rendering of what this person looked like from this piece of bone? How unimaginative! Not yet but scientists have been speculating on his intelligence and lifestyle: From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor! Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are. Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known human lineage remains http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known h... http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Around 400,000 years older than previous discovery of homo lineage, 2.8m-year-old jaw and five teeth was found poking out of r
Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
It's probably a commentary of some sort on me that I had to look up the meaning
of "anodyne." :-)
From: salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
LOL. I was going to make the same comment. :-)
I just took my first ever look at the Peak, it's a bit too anodyne for my taste
but I totally get why they didn't like hanging around with us! I'm almost
embarrassed at having actual opinions about things.
From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Image
Gallery:http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm
Salyavin:Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could
fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are.
(Fossilized consciousness moved over to the Peak, except for a few stragglers)
:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
you mean there is no artistic rendering of what this person looked like from
this piece of bone? How unimaginative!
Not yet but scientists have been speculating on his intelligence and lifestyle:
From: salyavin808
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:45 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we
could understand how we got to be how we are.
Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known human lineage remains
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|
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| Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known h... Around 400,000
years older than previous discovery of homo lineage, 2.8m-year-old jaw and five
teeth was found poking out of rocky slope in Afar region |
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| View on www.theguardian.com| Preview by Yahoo |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL. I was going to make the same comment. :-) I just took my first ever look at the Peak, it's a bit too anodyne for my taste but I totally get why they didn't like hanging around with us! I'm almost embarrassed at having actual opinions about things. From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor! Image Gallery: http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm Salyavin: Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are. (Fossilized consciousness moved over to the Peak, except for a few stragglers) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : you mean there is no artistic rendering of what this person looked like from this piece of bone? How unimaginative! Not yet but scientists have been speculating on his intelligence and lifestyle: From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor! Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are. Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known human lineage remains http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known h... http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Around 400,000 years older than previous discovery of homo lineage, 2.8m-year-old jaw and five teeth was found poking out of rocky slope in Afar region View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
LOL. I was going to make the same comment. :-)
From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
Image
Gallery:http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm
Salyavin:Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could
fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are.
(Fossilized consciousness moved over to the Peak, except for a few stragglers)
:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
you mean there is no artistic rendering of what this person looked like from
this piece of bone? How unimaginative!
Not yet but scientists have been speculating on his intelligence and lifestyle:
From: salyavin808
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:45 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we
could understand how we got to be how we are.
Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known human lineage remains
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| | | | Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known h... Around
400,000 years older than previous discovery of homo lineage, 2.8m-year-old jaw
and five teeth was found poking out of rocky slope in Afar region | |
| View on www.theguardian.com| Preview by Yahoo |
| |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
Image Gallery: http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/humans-emerged-much-earlier-than-thought-150304.htm Salyavin: Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are. (Fossilized consciousness moved over to the Peak, except for a few stragglers) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : you mean there is no artistic rendering of what this person looked like from this piece of bone? How unimaginative! Not yet but scientists have been speculating on his intelligence and lifestyle: From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor! Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are. Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known human lineage remains http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known h... http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Around 400,000 years older than previous discovery of homo lineage, 2.8m-year-old jaw and five teeth was found poking out of rocky slope in Afar region View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
There needs to be an app for that! :-D On 03/04/2015 12:30 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: you mean there is no artistic rendering of what this person looked like from this piece of bone? How unimaginative! *From:* salyavin808 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:45 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor! Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are. Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known human lineage remains <http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608> image <http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608> Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known h... <http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608> Around 400,000 years older than previous discovery of homo lineage, 2.8m-year-old jaw and five teeth was found poking out of rocky slope in Afar region View on www.theguardian.com <http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608> Preview by Yahoo
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : you mean there is no artistic rendering of what this person looked like from this piece of bone? How unimaginative! Not yet but scientists have been speculating on his intelligence and lifestyle: From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor! Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are. Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known human lineage remains http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known h... http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Around 400,000 years older than previous discovery of homo lineage, 2.8m-year-old jaw and five teeth was found poking out of rocky slope in Afar region View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Preview by Yahoo
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you mean there is no artistic rendering of what this person looked like from
this piece of bone? How unimaginative!
From: salyavin808
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:45 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we
could understand how we got to be how we are.
Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known human lineage remains
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[FairfieldLife] Meet the Ancestor!
Another early humanoid from Ethiopia. If only consciousness could fossilise we could understand how we got to be how we are. Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known human lineage remains http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia is oldest known h... http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Around 400,000 years older than previous discovery of homo lineage, 2.8m-year-old jaw and five teeth was found poking out of rocky slope in Afar region View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/04/jaw-bone-discovery-in-ethiopia-is-oldest-ever-human-lineage-remains#comment-48391608 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Meet the ancestor...
Like it or not, your genes run all the way back to a fishy critter called Tiktaalik that led the way to land 375 million years ago. A new documentary shows why the ancient animal deserves an honored spot in your family tree You Are a Fish—Science Proves It http://time.com/99086/fish-evolution-humans-pbs/ http://time.com/99086/fish-evolution-humans-pbs/ You Are a Fish—Science Proves It http://time.com/99086/fish-evolution-humans-pbs/ Like it or not, your genes run all the way back to a fishy critter called Tiktaalik that led the way to land 375 million years ago. A new documentary shows why t... View on time.com http://time.com/99086/fish-evolution-humans-pbs/ Preview by Yahoo Bit of a silly headline though. I'm not a fish - proud to be descended from one though
