Re: [FairfieldLife] On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

2015-06-17 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Note that 'Buck' does not appear in the data Yahoo now posts on the group, nor 
does it appear in the e-mail. And what do we do if someone's real name is part 
or the whole of their e-mail address, or if the person signs off with their 
real name somewhere in the e-mail and does not care, and we respond to that? 
What if we repost an older post and the person's real name was in that? Buck is 
a nickname, but I assume others might use it where you live. I sometimes use 
the full e-mail address name, but not the company name (yahoogroups.com for 
example). What if a person wants to use their real name, are they prohibited? 
Please clarify.
Summary of this message   
   - person's real name in e-mail address   

   - person wants to use real name   

   - person wants to use a nickname that people in real life call him/her by   

   - person's real name appears in older posts   

   - person doesn't care if real name is used
   - person's real name is posted by person somewhere in e-mail (deliberately)  
 


Sincerely,
Xenophaneros Anartaxius  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 5:00 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] On Gratuitous invasions of privacy
   
    “ ..anddon't invade other people's privacy.”
Ingoing forward in accord with Rick's original intent for protectingprivacy on 
FFL know that in responding [replying] to posts made onFFL an unsolicited use 
of someone's legal name on FFL is an invasionof privacy as it also is 
considered a violation of the yahoo-groupsguidelines here. Expect to have your 
writing removed from FFL. Expect to have your posts moderated. Expect to have 
your membershiprevoked if such invasion of people's privacy continues either as 
byimpulse without intent or with meditated intent to abuse someone byinvasion 
of privacy as used in method. 
Forinstance, as people signing on to FFL do post and people do respondwith 
replies then for example in reply: 'Turqb isTurqb', 'Fleetwoodis Fleetwood', 
'CDB is CDB', 'Serious is Serious', 'Buck is Buck', 'Nablusoss is Nablusoss', 
and 'Authfriend is Authfriend'. Whatevertheir legal names in life may be, now 
going forward you shall bemoderate in this as Rick originally intended. Show 
self-restraintand respect for other people's privacy here. Simple. That is part 
ofthe communal collaboration asked for in making this a particularfree-speech 
zone as it was hoped for. Have a nice day, -JaiGuruYou

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Thanks A., good to know. In going forward with moderation on FFL, protection of 
privacy has always been a mainstay feature of FFL as Rick's free speech list. 
This feature of protection has been under siege and fallen to a form of a 
disrespect used by some writers on FFL. Everyone take this as a warning right 
now going forward: where someone posting to the list uses an anonymous screen 
name it is quite proper form on FFL as a yahoo-group to respond to posts using 
a person's screen name and make no mention of their real name otherwise.  
-JaiGuruYou!


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Please ignore what he says about me. He has it completely wrong.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Serious_Richardbrings up in this particular thread an important point about 
privacyon FFL. From the beginning Rick has been intent on creating asafe-space 
of privacy for folks to post on FFL. Rick's principlesin creating safe-space 
have been under attack, degraded andmethodically violated by some writers here 
evidently to abuse or intimidateother folks personally who have been members of 
the community of FFL. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Thanksfor offering this, Serious. Yes I feel this is an excellent examplethat 
you offer of precedence in how to directly moderate a list thathas gone so bad 
like this. I shall make note of it and emulate Rickin this as much as possible. 
The yahoo-groups guidelines themselvesare quite simple and require of writers 
only some self-control. -JaiGuruYou!


Just for the record, I should point out that Rick banned me from the group 
without sending me a single message or email explaining why. So, I appealed to 
him and he reinstated my posting privileges. Apparently an informant objected 
to my using their real name, although they had previously posted under their 
real name. Go figure.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Sad news. 

The really sad part of this is that [] has not apologized to me for over two 
decades for posting my real name on a.m.t. Go figure.
But, this brings up an interesting subject. From what I've read,  
has never used her real name on FFL, so I guess that everyone that ever used 
her real name should be banned from the group. That would include almost

[FairfieldLife] On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

2015-06-17 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
“ ..and don't invade other people's privacy.” 
 

 In going forward in accord with Rick's original intent for protecting privacy 
on FFL know that in responding [replying] to posts made on FFL an unsolicited 
use of someone's legal name on FFL is an invasion of privacy as it also is 
considered a violation of the yahoo-groups guidelines here. Expect to have your 
writing removed from FFL. Expect to have your posts moderated. Expect to have 
your membership revoked if such invasion of people's privacy continues either 
as by impulse without intent or with meditated intent to abuse someone by 
invasion of privacy as used in method. 
 

 For instance, as people signing on to FFL do post and people do respond with 
replies then for example in reply: 'Turqb isTurqb', 'Fleetwood is Fleetwood', 
'CDB is CDB', 'Serious is Serious', 'Buck is Buck', 'Nablusoss is Nablusoss', 
and 'Authfriend is Authfriend'. Whatever their legal names in life may be, now 
going forward you shall be moderate in this as Rick originally intended. Show 
self-restraint and respect for other people's privacy here. Simple. That is 
part of the communal collaboration asked for in making this a particular 
free-speech zone as it was hoped for. Have a nice day, -JaiGuruYou
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thanks A., good to know. In going forward with moderation on FFL, protection 
of privacy has always been a mainstay feature of FFL as Rick's free speech 
list. This feature of protection has been under siege and fallen to a form of a 
disrespect used by some writers on FFL. Everyone take this as a warning right 
now going forward: where someone posting to the list uses an anonymous screen 
name it is quite proper form on FFL as a yahoo-group to respond to posts using 
a person's screen name and make no mention of their real name otherwise.  
-JaiGuruYou!
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Please ignore what he says about me. He has it completely wrong.

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Serious_Richard brings up in this particular thread an important point about 
privacy on FFL. From the beginning Rick has been intent on creating a 
safe-space of privacy for folks to post on FFL. Rick's principles in creating 
safe-space have been under attack, degraded and methodically violated by some 
writers here evidently to abuse or intimidate other folks personally who have 
been members of the community of FFL. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thanks for offering this, Serious. Yes I feel this is an excellent example 
that you offer of precedence in how to directly moderate a list that has gone 
so bad like this. I shall make note of it and emulate Rick in this as much as 
possible. The yahoo-groups guidelines themselves are quite simple and require 
of writers only some self-control. -JaiGuruYou!
 


 Just for the record, I should point out that Rick banned me from the group 
without sending me a single message or email explaining why. So, I appealed to 
him and he reinstated my posting privileges. Apparently an informant objected 
to my using their real name, although they had previously posted under their 
real name. Go figure.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Sad news. 

 

 The really sad part of this is that [] has not apologized to me for over two 
decades for posting my real name on a.m.t. Go figure.
 

 But, this brings up an interesting subject. From what I've read,  
has never used her real name on FFL, so I guess that everyone that ever used 
her real name should be banned from the group. That would include almost 
everyone currently posting. Can anyone spell cognitive dissonance?
 

 Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist 
on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

 

 I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

 

 So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

 

 Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

 

 I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the 
kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just 
suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

 

 From: "j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   As is typically the case these days, I am completely out