Re: [FairfieldLife] Opinions on TM

2014-08-11 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/11/2014 10:19 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
TM is a pure cult and scam. Buy a book and learn how to do it for 20 
bucks. There is no "secret sauce". TM is vanilla wrapped up as secret 
sauce.

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Apparently there is some misinformation posted at the site you 
recommended. You don't seem to be very aware of some of the 
contradictions here: there's no "Om" mantra in TM.


Most people seem to enjoy their TM experience, even if they don't 
continue their practice. Almost all of the stressing problems associated 
with TM practice comes from trying to "concentrate" or use "repetition" 
when they meditate, which is contraindicated in TM practice. Heavy 
concentration for long periods of time has been known to produce 
headaches. It's not complicated.


"My mantra was "Om". Never bothered to look it up. I believe it's a 
Hindi god."


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As I progressed, the friendly people at TM wanted to sell me all sorts 
of books, gizmos and courses that would accelerate my spiritual walk 
on the path to enlightenment. While I was turned down for a chance to 
learn "Yogic flying" (google that; some weird shit) on the account I 
was too young or immature (can't remember), I did put down 800$ for a 
3-day weekend retreat to some crusty old lodge with 30 other desperate 
souls looking for answers in the maharishi. The "group leaders" were 
nothing short of authoritarian in the way they interacted with 
pledges. During one of our theory sessions (which actually double as a 
long-winded sales pitch into an even longer retreat or "course"), any 
sort of skepticism was quickly shot down and the questioner singled 
out for bullying infront of the group. At meal time (our only time to 
converse with the other marks), most of us uttered only quiet 
reverences to the maharishi over our bowls of lukewarm chickpea soup, 
hoping to avoid the ire of the leaders who paced the floor, like a 
pack of wolves tending to their sheep.


It's actually hilarious. I'm laughing my ass off, writing this. TM is 
pathetic. It's a cult devoted to suckering-in and bullying desperate 
people for money. That's my opinion, of course. But it's pretty 
fucking obvious LOL


I'm a Type A personality. Mindful relaxation doesn't work for me. I 
can't do it.


I did have some great success with deep breathing. There's a decent 
guy I can point you to, if interested. Problem is, deep breathing 
requires an unobstructed nasal pathway. Mine is perpetually blocked 
from unknown allergies. But when it did work, the results were 
profound. A good workbook/CD set for deepbreathing might cost 50-100$. 
Well worth it, imo.


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[FairfieldLife] Opinions on TM

2014-08-11 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
TM is a pure cult and scam.   Buy a book and learn how to do it for 20 
bucks.  There is no "secret sauce".   TM is vanilla wrapped up as secret sauce. 

As I progressed, the friendly people at TM wanted to sell me all sorts 
of books, gizmos and courses that would accelerate my spiritual walk on 
the path to enlightenment.   While I was turned down for a chance to 
learn "Yogic flying"  (google that; some weird shit) on the account I 
was too young or immature (can't remember), I did put down 800$ for a 
3-day weekend retreat to some crusty old lodge with 30 other desperate 
souls looking for answers in the maharishi.   The "group leaders" were 
nothing short of authoritarian in the way they interacted with pledges. 
 During one of our theory sessions (which actually double as a 
long-winded sales pitch into an even longer retreat or "course"), any 
sort of skepticism was quickly shot down and the questioner singled out 
for bullying infront of the group.At meal time (our only time to 
converse with the other marks), most of us uttered only quiet reverences
 to the maharishi over our bowls of lukewarm chickpea soup, hoping to 
avoid the ire of the leaders who paced the floor, like a pack of wolves 
tending to their sheep. 

It's actually hilarious.  I'm laughing my ass off, writing this.  TM is 
pathetic.   It's a cult devoted to suckering-in and bullying desperate 
people for money.  That's my opinion, of course.  But it's pretty 
fucking obvious LOL 

I'm a Type A personality.   Mindful relaxation doesn't work for me.  I can't do 
it. 

I did have some great success with deep breathing.  There's a decent guy
 I can point you to, if interested.  Problem is, deep breathing requires
 an unobstructed nasal pathway.  Mine is perpetually blocked from 
unknown allergies.  But when it did work, the results were profound.   A
 good workbook/CD set for deepbreathing might cost 50-100$.   Well worth
 it, imo. 


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