[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 States of Consciousness (Was: Is CC flat suffering?)

2009-11-01 Thread cardemaister


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

  Or Shearer: There are 7 stages in the growth of this wisdom.
 
 Lemme stop you there before you swallow your whole leg. Thanks for  
 sharing the smarmy Shearer translation which I found very entertaining  
 to read.

What exactly is so smarmy in that translation?



[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 States of Consciousness (Was: Is CC flat suffering?)

2009-10-31 Thread authfriend
Michael Dean Goodman wrote:
snip
 It's going to be fascinating to watch how you take this
 simple, clear sutra by Patanjali, written by a great
 rishi whom you often quote as authoritative, and painfully
 twist it to fit your demonic purposes.

And indeed it *was* fascinating--a careful construction
of non sequiturs and attempts to mislead. Vaj does this
better than anybody.

And we also have the standard Vaj approach of assuming
that if his sources differ from MMY on their interpretation
of the texts, it automatically means MMY must be wrong.


Michael, if you have time, would you address the Is CC
flat suffering? question that started this thread (but
from which it has now diverged)?

Here's the original question, from Bill Hicks (#233410):

I've seen so many tapes where CC is described as a flat,
suffering situation in which you are unbounded but nothing
else is. There's this major disconnect between you and the
rest of creation, kind of like you're living like a bubble
boy. The 20 features of CC don't describe such a state.
They describe one of joy. I experience the 20 features and
life is joy and a lot more sense of intimacy with all
things. Everything and everyone is my friend. Except of
course the people I've spam filtered. But even there, I
feel self-sufficient and don't feel bad having spam filters
in place.

Could someone elucidate about the pinch versus the joy of
CC? When does it start pinching?

You went into the possible initial bleakness of CC (for
some people), and how it matures into a love affair
between the relative and the Absolute, years ago here in
post #16935. I could just repost that if you don't want to 
do a new post on the topic.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 States of Consciousness (Was: Is CC flat suffering?)

2009-10-31 Thread WLeed3
I would enjoy reading a re Post Bill L in Buffalo NY


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Michael Dean Goodman wrote:
snip
 It's going to be fascinating to watch how you take this
 simple, clear sutra by Patanjali, written by a great
 rishi whom you often quote as authoritative, and painfully
 twist it to fit your demonic purposes.
And indeed it *was* fascinating--a careful construction
f non sequiturs and attempts to mislead. Vaj does this
etter than anybody.
And we also have the standard Vaj approach of assuming
hat if his sources differ from MMY on their interpretation
f the texts, it automatically means MMY must be wrong.

ichael, if you have time, would you address the Is CC
lat suffering? question that started this thread (but
rom which it has now diverged)?
Here's the original question, from Bill Hicks (#233410):
I've seen so many tapes where CC is described as a flat,
uffering situation in which you are unbounded but nothing
lse is. There's this major disconnect between you and the
est of creation, kind of like you're living like a bubble
oy. The 20 features of CC don't describe such a state.
hey describe one of joy. I experience the 20 features and
ife is joy and a lot more sense of intimacy with all
hings. Everything and everyone is my friend. Except of
ourse the people I've spam filtered. But even there, I
eel self-sufficient and don't feel bad having spam filters
n place.
Could someone elucidate about the pinch versus the joy of
C? When does it start pinching?
You went into the possible initial bleakness of CC (for
ome people), and how it matures into a love affair
etween the relative and the Absolute, years ago here in
ost #16935. I could just repost that if you don't want to 
o a new post on the topic.


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