[FairfieldLife] Re: A Black perspective on segregationist Al Gore, Sr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My point was, clearly, that Al Gore's father was a segregationist; No, he wasn't a segregationist, to the contrary. The record is very clear on that point. That's a matter of fact, not of opinion. > that fear-mongering is a prerequisite for promoting segregation; > and that this is the atmosphere in which Al Gore was brought up. Impossible, since his father wasn't a segregationist (or his mother either). > I never said OR implied that he was a racist or segregationist. > > I do, however, suggest that his current day fear-mongering > finds its basis in the training he got in fear-mongering by > being brought up by a segregationist father Since his father wasn't a segregationist, your whole theory is utter nonsense.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Black perspective on segregationist Al Gore, Sr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "boo_lives" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This post which shemp keeps posting every so often is absurd in its > implications. As anyone with a minimum knowledge of politics knows, > the democratic party lost its traditional hold on the South with > passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The Act was initially > championed by President Kennedy and ultimately passed under Johnson by > a Congress that was dominated by democrats at that time. The Act was > opposed in the racist south by most all politicians there, zero > southern republicans voted for it and very few southern democrats. > The South felt let down by Johnson and the democratic congress, a > feeling that grew stronger throughout the decade as the democratic > party took on other similar issues like equal employment rights for > women. Nixon won 2 elections based on his famous "southern strategy" > which was to focus on stealing votes from the traditionally democratic > south, which he did, a strategy also used by Reagan and now mastered > by Rove. To imply that Clinton and Gore Jr were racist because they > were "southern democrats" 1. I never implied that; 2. I don't think the author of the piece was implying that either. and southern democrats voted against the Act > of 64 is such nonsense, there is no valid comparison. The South > switched from democratic to republican after the Act of 1964 because > the southern racists all switched to the republican party, which has > consistently fought all subsequent equal rights type legislation since > then. take an intro political science class shemp, then post on politics. My point was, clearly, that Al Gore's father was a segregationist; that fear-mongering is a prerequisite for promoting segregation; and that this is the atmosphere in which Al Gore was brought up. I never said OR implied that he was a racist or segregationist. I do, however, suggest that his current day fear-mongering finds its basis in the training he got in fear-mongering by being brought up by a segregationist father because in the absense of current day segregation, his innate fear-mongering must find an outlet: global- warming. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > Blacks "Gored" By a Lie: Al Gore Sr., the GOP and the Civil Rights > > > Act of 1964 > > > > Notice that nothing in this piece of garbage > > actually contradicts anything in the quotes > > I posted. It's all just right-wing rhetoric. > > > > Shemp, needless to say, can't tell the difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > By R.D. Davis > > > > > > A New Visions Commentary paper published May 1999 by The National > > > Center for Public Policy Research. Reprints permitted provided > > source > > > is credited. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is easy to control the minds of a people. All one has to do is > > > change history by lying about the past. This is exactly what has > > > happened with the legacy of former Democratic U.S. Senator Al Gore, > > > Sr. of Tennessee - the father of our current vice president - and > > his > > > mythical "support" of civil rights. > > > > > > In a recent speech to the NAACP, Vice President Gore said his > > father > > > lost his Senate seat because he supported civil rights legislation. > > > Fellow black Americans, let me set history straight. Al Gore, Sr., > > > together with the rest of the southern Democrats, voted against the > > > Civil Rights Act of 1964. > > > > > > Congressional Quarterly reported that, in the House of > > > Representatives, 61% of Democrats (152 for, 96 against) voted for > > the > > > Civil Rights Act as opposed to 80% of Republicans (138 for, 38 > > > against). In the Senate, 69% of Democrats (46 for, 21 against) > > voted > > > for the Act while 82% of Republicans did (27 for, 6 against). All > > > southern Democrats voted against the Act. > > > > > > In his remarks upon signing the Civil Rights Act, President Lyndon > > > Johnson praised Republicans for their "overwhelming majority." He > > did > > > not offer similar praise to his own Democratic Party. Moreover, > > > Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen, an Illinois Republican, > > > collaborated with the White House and the Senate leadership of both > > > parties to draft acceptable compromise amendments to end the > > southern > > > Democrats' filibuster of the Act. It was Dirksen who often took to > > > the Senate floor to declare, "This is an idea whose time has come. > > It > > > will not be denied." Dirksen's greatest triumph earned him the > > > Leadership Conference of Civil Rights Award, presented by then- > > NAACP > > > Chairman Roy Wilkins, for his remarkable civil rights leadership. > > > > > > Inform yourself, so you can learn for yourself about this important > > > historical eve
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Black perspective on segregationist Al Gore, Sr.
This post which shemp keeps posting every so often is absurd in its implications. As anyone with a minimum knowledge of politics knows, the democratic party lost its traditional hold on the South with passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The Act was initially championed by President Kennedy and ultimately passed under Johnson by a Congress that was dominated by democrats at that time. The Act was opposed in the racist south by most all politicians there, zero southern republicans voted for it and very few southern democrats. The South felt let down by Johnson and the democratic congress, a feeling that grew stronger throughout the decade as the democratic party took on other similar issues like equal employment rights for women. Nixon won 2 elections based on his famous "southern strategy" which was to focus on stealing votes from the traditionally democratic south, which he did, a strategy also used by Reagan and now mastered by Rove. To imply that Clinton and Gore Jr were racist because they were "southern democrats" and southern democrats voted against the Act of 64 is such nonsense, there is no valid comparison. The South switched from democratic to republican after the Act of 1964 because the southern racists all switched to the republican party, which has consistently fought all subsequent equal rights type legislation since then. take an intro political science class shemp, then post on politics. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > Blacks "Gored" By a Lie: Al Gore Sr., the GOP and the Civil Rights > > Act of 1964 > > Notice that nothing in this piece of garbage > actually contradicts anything in the quotes > I posted. It's all just right-wing rhetoric. > > Shemp, needless to say, can't tell the difference. > > > > > > > By R.D. Davis > > > > A New Visions Commentary paper published May 1999 by The National > > Center for Public Policy Research. Reprints permitted provided > source > > is credited. > > > > > > > > It is easy to control the minds of a people. All one has to do is > > change history by lying about the past. This is exactly what has > > happened with the legacy of former Democratic U.S. Senator Al Gore, > > Sr. of Tennessee - the father of our current vice president - and > his > > mythical "support" of civil rights. > > > > In a recent speech to the NAACP, Vice President Gore said his > father > > lost his Senate seat because he supported civil rights legislation. > > Fellow black Americans, let me set history straight. Al Gore, Sr., > > together with the rest of the southern Democrats, voted against the > > Civil Rights Act of 1964. > > > > Congressional Quarterly reported that, in the House of > > Representatives, 61% of Democrats (152 for, 96 against) voted for > the > > Civil Rights Act as opposed to 80% of Republicans (138 for, 38 > > against). In the Senate, 69% of Democrats (46 for, 21 against) > voted > > for the Act while 82% of Republicans did (27 for, 6 against). All > > southern Democrats voted against the Act. > > > > In his remarks upon signing the Civil Rights Act, President Lyndon > > Johnson praised Republicans for their "overwhelming majority." He > did > > not offer similar praise to his own Democratic Party. Moreover, > > Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen, an Illinois Republican, > > collaborated with the White House and the Senate leadership of both > > parties to draft acceptable compromise amendments to end the > southern > > Democrats' filibuster of the Act. It was Dirksen who often took to > > the Senate floor to declare, "This is an idea whose time has come. > It > > will not be denied." Dirksen's greatest triumph earned him the > > Leadership Conference of Civil Rights Award, presented by then- > NAACP > > Chairman Roy Wilkins, for his remarkable civil rights leadership. > > > > Inform yourself, so you can learn for yourself about this important > > historical event. All official records about the Civil Rights Act > can > > be found in the June 1964 issues of Congressional Quarterly. > > > > Al Gore, Sr. did not stop at simply voting against the Civil Rights > > Act of 1964. In addition, Congressional Quarterly reported that > Gore > > attempted to send the Act to the Senate Judiciary Committee with an > > amendment to say "in defiance of a court desegregation order, > federal > > funds could not be held from any school districts." Gore sought to > > take the teeth out of the Act in the event it passed. > > > > Ostensibly, Senator Gore was "elated" at the idea of young Al, Jr. > > going to school with black children. In reality, however, the > future > > vice president attended an elite private school. > > > > In the end, the Gore Amendment was defeated by a vote of 74-25. > > Senator J. William Fulbright of Arkansas, one of President Bill > > Clinton's politic
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Black perspective on segregationist Al Gore, Sr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Blacks "Gored" By a Lie: Al Gore Sr., the GOP and the Civil Rights > Act of 1964 Notice that nothing in this piece of garbage actually contradicts anything in the quotes I posted. It's all just right-wing rhetoric. Shemp, needless to say, can't tell the difference. > > By R.D. Davis > > A New Visions Commentary paper published May 1999 by The National > Center for Public Policy Research. Reprints permitted provided source > is credited. > > > > It is easy to control the minds of a people. All one has to do is > change history by lying about the past. This is exactly what has > happened with the legacy of former Democratic U.S. Senator Al Gore, > Sr. of Tennessee - the father of our current vice president - and his > mythical "support" of civil rights. > > In a recent speech to the NAACP, Vice President Gore said his father > lost his Senate seat because he supported civil rights legislation. > Fellow black Americans, let me set history straight. Al Gore, Sr., > together with the rest of the southern Democrats, voted against the > Civil Rights Act of 1964. > > Congressional Quarterly reported that, in the House of > Representatives, 61% of Democrats (152 for, 96 against) voted for the > Civil Rights Act as opposed to 80% of Republicans (138 for, 38 > against). In the Senate, 69% of Democrats (46 for, 21 against) voted > for the Act while 82% of Republicans did (27 for, 6 against). All > southern Democrats voted against the Act. > > In his remarks upon signing the Civil Rights Act, President Lyndon > Johnson praised Republicans for their "overwhelming majority." He did > not offer similar praise to his own Democratic Party. Moreover, > Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen, an Illinois Republican, > collaborated with the White House and the Senate leadership of both > parties to draft acceptable compromise amendments to end the southern > Democrats' filibuster of the Act. It was Dirksen who often took to > the Senate floor to declare, "This is an idea whose time has come. It > will not be denied." Dirksen's greatest triumph earned him the > Leadership Conference of Civil Rights Award, presented by then- NAACP > Chairman Roy Wilkins, for his remarkable civil rights leadership. > > Inform yourself, so you can learn for yourself about this important > historical event. All official records about the Civil Rights Act can > be found in the June 1964 issues of Congressional Quarterly. > > Al Gore, Sr. did not stop at simply voting against the Civil Rights > Act of 1964. In addition, Congressional Quarterly reported that Gore > attempted to send the Act to the Senate Judiciary Committee with an > amendment to say "in defiance of a court desegregation order, federal > funds could not be held from any school districts." Gore sought to > take the teeth out of the Act in the event it passed. > > Ostensibly, Senator Gore was "elated" at the idea of young Al, Jr. > going to school with black children. In reality, however, the future > vice president attended an elite private school. > > In the end, the Gore Amendment was defeated by a vote of 74-25. > Senator J. William Fulbright of Arkansas, one of President Bill > Clinton's political mentors, was among the 23 southern Democratic > senators and only one Republican voting with Gore for this racist > amendment. > > Republican Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona voted against the Civil > Rights Act because he was afraid the nation would be transformed into > a "police state" as a result of some of its provisions. He did not > want to throw out the proverbial "baby with the bath water." History, > of course, labeled Goldwater a racist even though he voted against > the Gore Amendment - an amendment devised to continue school > segregation. If anyone in the Senate should be tagged as a racist, it > should be those voting for the Gore Amendment. Why didn't history > record Al Gore, Sr. and the other southern Democrats as racists? > > At least civil rights activist Andrew Young was forthcoming about > this oversight in his book An Easy Burden. Young wrote, "The southern > segregationists were all Democrats, and it was black Republicans... > who could effectively influence the appointment of federal judges in > the South." Young noted that the best civil rights judges were > Republicans appointed by President Dwight Eisenhower. Young > admitted, "These judges are among the many unsung heroes of the civil > rights movement." > > History tends to unilaterally and falsely depict Republicans as > racists when southern Democrats truly deserved this title. We now > have southern Democrats as both President and Vice President. That > would never be the case without the power of the lie and the liberal > news media to alter people's impressions. > > Lies can enslave men, but the truth shall set them free.
