Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-21 Thread Bhairitu
On 04/19/2011 09:58 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
 And this weekend is woo-woo weekend at 8th and Brannon with the New
 Living Expo.  For $15 you can see all the crystals, astrologers, gurus,
 water filtering system and eat all kinds of vegetarian food.  These are
 kinda fun especially in the 1990s when they were huge and next door at
 the Fashion Center with shows spilling over to other nearby buildings.
 Then you could even park across the street for $5.  Now those parking
 lots have been replaced by condos and the nearest parking the last time
 I went was $15 for the day.  Add the cost of gas and the bridge toll and
 it makes for an expensive day.  Of course you can take BART ... if you
 want to. :-D

 http://newlivingexpo.com/


Oops, I didn't mean this weekend but the weekend of the 29th which 
anyone interested who would have clicked on the link would have 
discovered.  Obviously having such an event over Easter weekend would 
have been a disaster.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-20 Thread John
Ravi,

Sanjay's ideas are a bit too orthodox for my taste.  Now, I understand why some 
American jyotishis call themselves neo-vedic astrologers.  But his techniques 
are unusual and one can incorporate some of his ideas into one's own repertoire.

During one of his seminars a few years ago, he incorrectly predicted that John 
Edwards would be the next president of the USA.  I knew back then that Edwards 
would have a hard time in his career because his 10th lord was in the 12th 
house, an indication of a fall or loss.

Nonetheless, I probably would attend his seminar in May just to keep abreast 
with current developments in the field.

JR








--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 Sanjay is a good astrologer but if you do attend please be discriminating 
 enough to absorb the good techniques he passes along and reject the personal 
 propaganda that he and his disciples indulge in like Sun in 5th is a good 
 indicator of moksha - that's from his chart and just plain BS. He is a good 
 jyotish Guru and that's it - you can ignore some of the spiritual crap that 
 he dumps along.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  Bhairitu,
  
  Now that you mentioned astrologers, I just got an email from someone that 
  Sanjay Rath, a well-known jyotishi from India, will be coming back to the 
  Bay Area to hold a seminar on how to read the Vimsamsa Chart among other 
  things.  He's scheduled to teach around the latter part of May 2011.  The 
  organizers are still trying to find a venue to hold the seminar at the 
  present moment.
  
  JR
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  
   And this weekend is woo-woo weekend at 8th and Brannon with the New 
   Living Expo.  For $15 you can see all the crystals, astrologers, gurus, 
   water filtering system and eat all kinds of vegetarian food.  These are 
   kinda fun especially in the 1990s when they were huge and next door at 
   the Fashion Center with shows spilling over to other nearby buildings. 
   Then you could even park across the street for $5.  Now those parking 
   lots have been replaced by condos and the nearest parking the last time 
   I went was $15 for the day.  Add the cost of gas and the bridge toll and 
   it makes for an expensive day.  Of course you can take BART ... if you 
   want to. :-D
   
   http://newlivingexpo.com/
   
   I call San Francisco No Parking because you'll see more of those signs 
   than anything else. Unfortunately BART was an expensive blunder and 
   doesn't get everywhere.  Probably a light rail system would have been 
   more successful.
   
   On 04/18/2011 04:08 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
I did commute to the city for six years, so have travelled quite a bit 
around the city. My favorite Indian place is Pakwan in Mission. As soon 
as my Saturn dasha started I quit my work and now moved away from the 
West to the East Bay, funny how things work out. My brother-in-law 
wanted me to move to the east closer to my brother in Boston because of 
Saturn but I argued that it could be east in the Bay area and that's 
how it turned out to be - but I do miss the beautiful Sunsets.
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Johnjr_esq@  wrote:
You should visit the City more often.  Have lunch at the Indian 
restaurant.  The price is reasonable and it's all you can eat.  Then, 
take the scenic drive as I did.
   
JR
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogiraviyogi@  wrote:
Love that place, haven't been to the city in a long time though.
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Johnjr_esq@  wrote:
After having lunch at an Indian restaurant at Geary and 25th Ave., I
decided to take the scenic drive starting at Lincoln Park golf course.
I ended up parking my car on Hyde Street where the cable cars pass to
get to the Square.  I was about two blocks up the hill of Buena Vista
Cafe, another San Francisco landmark.
After reaching the bottom of the hill, I passed by the Cannery Row 
and
then walked towards Fishermen's Wharf.  On the other side of the 
street
is Cappuro's Restaurant, a business owned by a high school classmate's
family.
Then I walked towards the parking lot where I used to work when I was
in high school.  The parking lot is now surrounded by various vendors
selling various wares for the tourists.
After several minutes of walking, I ended up at the Square again 
where
I bought a chocolate ice cream on a sugar cone.  I also ended up 
buying
a gift pack of chocolates to take home.
Then, I drove home listening to a CD playing various Latin numbers
featuring chacha and mambo tunes.  Que sabroso...
   
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-20 Thread Ravi Yogi
John,
You are spot on with his orthodoxy and with astrology in general, he
comes from a culture that is very male dominated with strong gender
roles so yes you would be well served to be on guard to reject that
garbage. I was married to a woman from that culture and trust me it's
not pretty, I grew up with liberal values from my single mom with strong
women in my family and it was a culture shock if you can believe that
:-).  Sanjay just reminds me of my ex- in laws and other men I saw in
that culture. But he is a good astrologer, I learned a lot from whatever
I read on the web in the past and his ideas on Jaimini, Arudha Lagnas,
Karakamsa and Navamsa can be well incorporated, it always helps the
astrologer to confirm patterns from multiple angles.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 Ravi,

 Sanjay's ideas are a bit too orthodox for my taste.  Now, I understand
why some American jyotishis call themselves neo-vedic astrologers.  But
his techniques are unusual and one can incorporate some of his ideas
into one's own repertoire.

 During one of his seminars a few years ago, he incorrectly predicted
that John Edwards would be the next president of the USA.  I knew back
then that Edwards would have a hard time in his career because his 10th
lord was in the 12th house, an indication of a fall or loss.

 Nonetheless, I probably would attend his seminar in May just to keep
abreast with current developments in the field.

 JR





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-20 Thread Bhairitu
Astrology should always be taken as an abstraction not a concrete.  I 
know astrologers who believe that when they change dashas it's going to 
be night and day.  It's the science of light dammit and preceding 
dasha fades out as the next one fades in.  And thus the effect become 
mixed near those cusps.  Same with infancy and old age which is a 
recognition of the same principle as applied to planetary transits.

There are many Indian astrologers who just use basic techniques but 
leave to westerners to get hung up in the minutia or frosting and miss 
the meaning in a chart.  I recall one well known instructor in a class 
put up a chart wanting the class to point out a very simple 
interpretation and the class of course went off on all these things 
about the nakshatras thinking they were impressing the teacher.  They 
got a well deserved verbal lashing.

Astrology is like weather.  It tells you the propensity for an event 
occurring not that it will absolutely occur.  When I see bad transits in 
my chart I laugh at them and marvel how they unfold around me.

On 04/19/2011 11:25 PM, John wrote:
 Ravi,

 Sanjay's ideas are a bit too orthodox for my taste.  Now, I understand why 
 some American jyotishis call themselves neo-vedic astrologers.  But his 
 techniques are unusual and one can incorporate some of his ideas into one's 
 own repertoire.

 During one of his seminars a few years ago, he incorrectly predicted that 
 John Edwards would be the next president of the USA.  I knew back then that 
 Edwards would have a hard time in his career because his 10th lord was in the 
 12th house, an indication of a fall or loss.

 Nonetheless, I probably would attend his seminar in May just to keep abreast 
 with current developments in the field.

 JR








 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogiraviyogi@...  wrote:
 Sanjay is a good astrologer but if you do attend please be discriminating 
 enough to absorb the good techniques he passes along and reject the personal 
 propaganda that he and his disciples indulge in like Sun in 5th is a good 
 indicator of moksha - that's from his chart and just plain BS. He is a good 
 jyotish Guru and that's it - you can ignore some of the spiritual crap that 
 he dumps along.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Johnjr_esq@  wrote:
 Bhairitu,

 Now that you mentioned astrologers, I just got an email from someone that 
 Sanjay Rath, a well-known jyotishi from India, will be coming back to the 
 Bay Area to hold a seminar on how to read the Vimsamsa Chart among other 
 things.  He's scheduled to teach around the latter part of May 2011.  The 
 organizers are still trying to find a venue to hold the seminar at the 
 present moment.

 JR



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@  wrote:
 And this weekend is woo-woo weekend at 8th and Brannon with the New
 Living Expo.  For $15 you can see all the crystals, astrologers, gurus,
 water filtering system and eat all kinds of vegetarian food.  These are
 kinda fun especially in the 1990s when they were huge and next door at
 the Fashion Center with shows spilling over to other nearby buildings.
 Then you could even park across the street for $5.  Now those parking
 lots have been replaced by condos and the nearest parking the last time
 I went was $15 for the day.  Add the cost of gas and the bridge toll and
 it makes for an expensive day.  Of course you can take BART ... if you
 want to. :-D

 http://newlivingexpo.com/

 I call San Francisco No Parking because you'll see more of those signs
 than anything else. Unfortunately BART was an expensive blunder and
 doesn't get everywhere.  Probably a light rail system would have been
 more successful.

 On 04/18/2011 04:08 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
 I did commute to the city for six years, so have travelled quite a bit 
 around the city. My favorite Indian place is Pakwan in Mission. As soon 
 as my Saturn dasha started I quit my work and now moved away from the 
 West to the East Bay, funny how things work out. My brother-in-law wanted 
 me to move to the east closer to my brother in Boston because of Saturn 
 but I argued that it could be east in the Bay area and that's how it 
 turned out to be - but I do miss the beautiful Sunsets.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Johnjr_esq@   wrote:
 You should visit the City more often.  Have lunch at the Indian 
 restaurant.  The price is reasonable and it's all you can eat.  Then, 
 take the scenic drive as I did.

 JR

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogiraviyogi@   wrote:
 Love that place, haven't been to the city in a long time though.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Johnjr_esq@   wrote:
 After having lunch at an Indian restaurant at Geary and 25th Ave., I
 decided to take the scenic drive starting at Lincoln Park golf course.
 I ended up parking my car on Hyde Street where the cable cars pass to
 get to the Square.  I was about two blocks up the hill of Buena Vista
 Cafe, another San 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-20 Thread John
I agree with you.  Jyotish should be taken as a sign post.  But some teachers, 
like Brendan Feeley, like to tell stories of legendary jyotishis who were able 
to make predictions up to the nearest second of time.  Feeley said that one can 
do this with the Krishnamurti Paddhati system.

I tried to learn this KP system, but gave up on it.  Instead, I prefer to use 
the classical Parashara system because one can incorporate many of the hidden 
jyotish techniques that are embedded in the vedic literature, such as the 
Srimad Bhagavatam, into the system.

JR






--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 Astrology should always be taken as an abstraction not a concrete.  I 
 know astrologers who believe that when they change dashas it's going to 
 be night and day.  It's the science of light dammit and preceding 
 dasha fades out as the next one fades in.  And thus the effect become 
 mixed near those cusps.  Same with infancy and old age which is a 
 recognition of the same principle as applied to planetary transits.
 
 There are many Indian astrologers who just use basic techniques but 
 leave to westerners to get hung up in the minutia or frosting and miss 
 the meaning in a chart.  I recall one well known instructor in a class 
 put up a chart wanting the class to point out a very simple 
 interpretation and the class of course went off on all these things 
 about the nakshatras thinking they were impressing the teacher.  They 
 got a well deserved verbal lashing.
 
 Astrology is like weather.  It tells you the propensity for an event 
 occurring not that it will absolutely occur.  When I see bad transits in 
 my chart I laugh at them and marvel how they unfold around me.
 
 On 04/19/2011 11:25 PM, John wrote:
  Ravi,
 
  Sanjay's ideas are a bit too orthodox for my taste.  Now, I understand why 
  some American jyotishis call themselves neo-vedic astrologers.  But his 
  techniques are unusual and one can incorporate some of his ideas into one's 
  own repertoire.
 
  During one of his seminars a few years ago, he incorrectly predicted that 
  John Edwards would be the next president of the USA.  I knew back then that 
  Edwards would have a hard time in his career because his 10th lord was in 
  the 12th house, an indication of a fall or loss.
 
  Nonetheless, I probably would attend his seminar in May just to keep 
  abreast with current developments in the field.
 
  JR
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogiraviyogi@  wrote:
  Sanjay is a good astrologer but if you do attend please be discriminating 
  enough to absorb the good techniques he passes along and reject the 
  personal propaganda that he and his disciples indulge in like Sun in 5th 
  is a good indicator of moksha - that's from his chart and just plain BS. 
  He is a good jyotish Guru and that's it - you can ignore some of the 
  spiritual crap that he dumps along.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Johnjr_esq@  wrote:
  Bhairitu,
 
  Now that you mentioned astrologers, I just got an email from someone that 
  Sanjay Rath, a well-known jyotishi from India, will be coming back to the 
  Bay Area to hold a seminar on how to read the Vimsamsa Chart among other 
  things.  He's scheduled to teach around the latter part of May 2011.  The 
  organizers are still trying to find a venue to hold the seminar at the 
  present moment.
 
  JR
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@  wrote:
  And this weekend is woo-woo weekend at 8th and Brannon with the New
  Living Expo.  For $15 you can see all the crystals, astrologers, gurus,
  water filtering system and eat all kinds of vegetarian food.  These are
  kinda fun especially in the 1990s when they were huge and next door at
  the Fashion Center with shows spilling over to other nearby buildings.
  Then you could even park across the street for $5.  Now those parking
  lots have been replaced by condos and the nearest parking the last time
  I went was $15 for the day.  Add the cost of gas and the bridge toll and
  it makes for an expensive day.  Of course you can take BART ... if you
  want to. :-D
 
  http://newlivingexpo.com/
 
  I call San Francisco No Parking because you'll see more of those signs
  than anything else. Unfortunately BART was an expensive blunder and
  doesn't get everywhere.  Probably a light rail system would have been
  more successful.
 
  On 04/18/2011 04:08 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
  I did commute to the city for six years, so have travelled quite a bit 
  around the city. My favorite Indian place is Pakwan in Mission. As soon 
  as my Saturn dasha started I quit my work and now moved away from the 
  West to the East Bay, funny how things work out. My brother-in-law 
  wanted me to move to the east closer to my brother in Boston because of 
  Saturn but I argued that it could be east in the Bay area and that's 
  how it turned out to be - but I do miss the beautiful Sunsets.
 
 
  --- In 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-20 Thread seventhray1

If I gave you my date and time of  birth, would you give me a jyotish
reading gratis here on FFL?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
 I tried to learn this KP system, but gave up on it. Instead, I prefer
to use the classical Parashara system because one can incorporate many
of the hidden jyotish techniques that are embedded in the vedic
literature, such as the Srimad Bhagavatam, into the system.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-20 Thread Ravi Yogi
Sure, what the heck.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@...
wrote:


 If I gave you my date and time of  birth, would you give me a jyotish
 reading gratis here on FFL?

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  I tried to learn this KP system, but gave up on it. Instead, I
prefer
 to use the classical Parashara system because one can incorporate many
 of the hidden jyotish techniques that are embedded in the vedic
 literature, such as the Srimad Bhagavatam, into the system.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-20 Thread seventhray1

4-19-56   5:12 pm cst   I would say within 20 min 0f 5:12   could be
5:32,  or I could try to get the exact time.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 Sure, what the heck.
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
 wrote:
 
 
  If I gave you my date and time of birth, would you give me a jyotish
  reading gratis here on FFL?
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
   I tried to learn this KP system, but gave up on it. Instead, I
 prefer
  to use the classical Parashara system because one can incorporate
many
  of the hidden jyotish techniques that are embedded in the vedic
  literature, such as the Srimad Bhagavatam, into the system.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-20 Thread Ravi Yogi
And the place of birth?
Belated birthday greetings BTW.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@...
wrote:


 4-19-56   5:12 pm cst   I would say within 20 min 0f 5:12   could be
 5:32,  or I could try to get the exact time.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
  Sure, what the heck.
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
  wrote:
  
  
   If I gave you my date and time of birth, would you give me a
jyotish
   reading gratis here on FFL?
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
I tried to learn this KP system, but gave up on it. Instead, I
  prefer
   to use the classical Parashara system because one can incorporate
 many
   of the hidden jyotish techniques that are embedded in the vedic
   literature, such as the Srimad Bhagavatam, into the system.
  
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-20 Thread Ravi Yogi
Would that it be 5:12 am?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 And the place of birth?
 Belated birthday greetings BTW.
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
 wrote:
 
 
  4-19-56   5:12 pm cst   I would say within 20 min 0f 5:12   could be
  5:32,  or I could try to get the exact time.
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
  
   Sure, what the heck.
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
   wrote:
   
   
If I gave you my date and time of birth, would you give me a
 jyotish
reading gratis here on FFL?
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 I tried to learn this KP system, but gave up on it. Instead, I
   prefer
to use the classical Parashara system because one can
incorporate
  many
of the hidden jyotish techniques that are embedded in the vedic
literature, such as the Srimad Bhagavatam, into the system.
   
  
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-20 Thread seventhray1

St. Louis, Mo.  (the family gave me an interior and exterior car
cleaning, and a delicious butter cream birthday cake.   both were
awesome)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 And the place of birth?
 Belated birthday greetings BTW.
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
 wrote:
 
 
  4-19-56 5:12 pm cst I would say within 20 min 0f 5:12 could be
  5:32, or I could try to get the exact time.
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
  
   Sure, what the heck.
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
   wrote:
   
   
If I gave you my date and time of birth, would you give me a
 jyotish
reading gratis here on FFL?
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 I tried to learn this KP system, but gave up on it. Instead, I
   prefer
to use the classical Parashara system because one can
incorporate
  many
of the hidden jyotish techniques that are embedded in the vedic
literature, such as the Srimad Bhagavatam, into the system.
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-20 Thread seventhray1

negative.   it was  pm


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 Would that it be 5:12 am?
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
  And the place of birth?
  Belated birthday greetings BTW.
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
  wrote:
  
  
   4-19-56 5:12 pm cst I would say within 20 min 0f 5:12 could be
   5:32, or I could try to get the exact time.
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
   
Sure, what the heck.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1
steve.sundur@
wrote:


 If I gave you my date and time of birth, would you give me a
  jyotish
 reading gratis here on FFL?

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  I tried to learn this KP system, but gave up on it. Instead,
I
prefer
 to use the classical Parashara system because one can
 incorporate
   many
 of the hidden jyotish techniques that are embedded in the
vedic
 literature, such as the Srimad Bhagavatam, into the system.

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-20 Thread Ravi Yogi
Damn missed it, it was right there - I already started making a mental
picture of the chart and now I have to start over - no worries.
Good to know you had a good time on your birthday.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@...
wrote:


 negative.   it was  pm


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
  Would that it be 5:12 am?
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
  
   And the place of birth?
   Belated birthday greetings BTW.
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
   wrote:
   
   
4-19-56 5:12 pm cst I would say within 20 min 0f 5:12 could be
5:32, or I could try to get the exact time.
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@
wrote:

 Sure, what the heck.
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1
 steve.sundur@
 wrote:
 
 
  If I gave you my date and time of birth, would you give me a
   jyotish
  reading gratis here on FFL?
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
   I tried to learn this KP system, but gave up on it.
Instead,
 I
 prefer
  to use the classical Parashara system because one can
  incorporate
many
  of the hidden jyotish techniques that are embedded in the
 vedic
  literature, such as the Srimad Bhagavatam, into the system.
 

   
  
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-20 Thread Ravi Yogi
Thank you - will get back to you.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@...
wrote:


 St. Louis, Mo.  (the family gave me an interior and exterior car
 cleaning, and a delicious butter cream birthday cake.   both were
 awesome)


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
  And the place of birth?
  Belated birthday greetings BTW.
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
  wrote:
  
  
   4-19-56 5:12 pm cst I would say within 20 min 0f 5:12 could be
   5:32, or I could try to get the exact time.
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
   
Sure, what the heck.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1
steve.sundur@
wrote:


 If I gave you my date and time of birth, would you give me a
  jyotish
 reading gratis here on FFL?

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  I tried to learn this KP system, but gave up on it. Instead,
I
prefer
 to use the classical Parashara system because one can
 incorporate
   many
 of the hidden jyotish techniques that are embedded in the
vedic
 literature, such as the Srimad Bhagavatam, into the system.

   
  
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-19 Thread Ravi Yogi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:

 After having lunch at an Indian restaurant at Geary and
 25th Ave., I decided to take the scenic drive starting at
 Lincoln Park golf course.  I ended up parking my car on
 Hyde Street where the cable cars pass to get to the
 Square.  I was about two blocks up the hill of Buena
 Vista Cafe, another San Francisco landmark.

 After reaching the bottom of the hill, I passed by the
 Cannery Row and then walked towards Fishermen's Wharf.
 On the other side of the street is Cappuro's Restaurant,
 a business owned by a high school classmate's family.

 Then I walked towards the parking lot where I used to
 work when I was in high school.  The parking lot is now
 surrounded by various vendors selling various wares for
 the tourists.

 After several minutes of walking, I ended up at the
 Square again where I bought a chocolate ice cream on a
 sugar cone.  I also ended up buying a gift pack of
 chocolates to take home.

 Then, I drove home listening to a CD playing various
 Latin numbers featuring chacha and mambo tunes.  Que
 sabroso...
   
Yeah, but what did you see that reminded you of FFL?
  
   Judy,
  
   All of those scenes have a connection to FFL.  For example,
   we are very familiar with Indian foods and what they mean
   in physical and spiritual sense.
  
   The golf course represents the need for recreation to enjoy
   life and experience bliss which the members are aware of in
   their meditation practice.
 
  Judy,
 
  The scenes during the walk represent the various experiences
  that the members have during the waking consciousness.
 
  The ice cream and chocolates are the sweetness we experience
  during TC as we continue the meditation practice.
 
  The drive home with the music represents the meditation
  practice as we hope to get home to attain cosmic
  consciousness.

 Well, yes, but you must have drawn some conclusions, had some
 critiques, some advice, some words of wisdom for us on how we
 should conduct our lives and how we are to think about things,
 how we can make ourselves better people by adjusting our
 spiritual and everyday perspectives to bring them into accord
 with, you know, whatever it is you want us to bring them into
 accord with.

 I mean, there's no *sermon* attached to your account. You
 didn't *denounce* anybody; you didn't hold anybody up as a
 shining example for praise and exaltation, not even yourself!

 That's what we're used to here. I realize this is your first
 attempt to write a How What I Saw During My Walk Made It
 Clear Just What Is Wrong with FFL piece, but you need to
 think about the didactic element, the lesson to be learned.
 That's really what you should start with, and then figure
 out how to wrap your experiences on the walk around it, so
 that it appears the profound insights came from your walk.

 Maybe it would help if you got a dog or two?

 ;-)


Yeah, so non-judgmental and boring, nothing against TMO, MMY or even
Patanjali. I felt bad and responded - just to let him know that its not
the bad boys who get all the attention..:-)


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
This stuff is great, lurk!  My kind of humor. 
I don't get John's messages~~in more ways than
one~~so I appreciate your keeping me up-to-date
on everything I'm missing. :)

On Apr 18, 2011, at 10:25 PM, seventhray1 wrote:

-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
 All of those scenes have a connection to FFL. For example, we are very 
 familiar with Indian foods and what they mean in physical and spiritual 
 sense. 
 
 The golf course represents the need for recreation to enjoy life and 
 experience bliss which the members are aware of in their meditation practice.
Or maybe the 18 holes represent the 18 limbs of yoga, give or take a few.  The 
tees are representative of the start of our spiritual journey.  Of course the 
ladies tees are closer in  possibly because women are more refined to begin 
with.  And maybe a hole in one, which would be the ultimate achievement is 
really a code for thewhole of one.  You may not have wanted to spell it out so 
explicitly. 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-19 Thread Bhairitu
And this weekend is woo-woo weekend at 8th and Brannon with the New 
Living Expo.  For $15 you can see all the crystals, astrologers, gurus, 
water filtering system and eat all kinds of vegetarian food.  These are 
kinda fun especially in the 1990s when they were huge and next door at 
the Fashion Center with shows spilling over to other nearby buildings. 
Then you could even park across the street for $5.  Now those parking 
lots have been replaced by condos and the nearest parking the last time 
I went was $15 for the day.  Add the cost of gas and the bridge toll and 
it makes for an expensive day.  Of course you can take BART ... if you 
want to. :-D

http://newlivingexpo.com/

I call San Francisco No Parking because you'll see more of those signs 
than anything else. Unfortunately BART was an expensive blunder and 
doesn't get everywhere.  Probably a light rail system would have been 
more successful.

On 04/18/2011 04:08 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
 I did commute to the city for six years, so have travelled quite a bit around 
 the city. My favorite Indian place is Pakwan in Mission. As soon as my Saturn 
 dasha started I quit my work and now moved away from the West to the East 
 Bay, funny how things work out. My brother-in-law wanted me to move to the 
 east closer to my brother in Boston because of Saturn but I argued that it 
 could be east in the Bay area and that's how it turned out to be - but I do 
 miss the beautiful Sunsets.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Johnjr_esq@...  wrote:
 You should visit the City more often.  Have lunch at the Indian restaurant.  
 The price is reasonable and it's all you can eat.  Then, take the scenic 
 drive as I did.

 JR

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogiraviyogi@  wrote:
 Love that place, haven't been to the city in a long time though.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Johnjr_esq@  wrote:
 After having lunch at an Indian restaurant at Geary and 25th Ave., I
 decided to take the scenic drive starting at Lincoln Park golf course.
 I ended up parking my car on Hyde Street where the cable cars pass to
 get to the Square.  I was about two blocks up the hill of Buena Vista
 Cafe, another San Francisco landmark.
 After reaching the bottom of the hill, I passed by the Cannery Row and
 then walked towards Fishermen's Wharf.  On the other side of the street
 is Cappuro's Restaurant, a business owned by a high school classmate's
 family.
 Then I walked towards the parking lot where I used to work when I was
 in high school.  The parking lot is now surrounded by various vendors
 selling various wares for the tourists.
 After several minutes of walking, I ended up at the Square again where
 I bought a chocolate ice cream on a sugar cone.  I also ended up buying
 a gift pack of chocolates to take home.
 Then, I drove home listening to a CD playing various Latin numbers
 featuring chacha and mambo tunes.  Que sabroso...





[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-19 Thread John
Bhairitu,

Now that you mentioned astrologers, I just got an email from someone that 
Sanjay Rath, a well-known jyotishi from India, will be coming back to the Bay 
Area to hold a seminar on how to read the Vimsamsa Chart among other things.  
He's scheduled to teach around the latter part of May 2011.  The organizers are 
still trying to find a venue to hold the seminar at the present moment.

JR



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 And this weekend is woo-woo weekend at 8th and Brannon with the New 
 Living Expo.  For $15 you can see all the crystals, astrologers, gurus, 
 water filtering system and eat all kinds of vegetarian food.  These are 
 kinda fun especially in the 1990s when they were huge and next door at 
 the Fashion Center with shows spilling over to other nearby buildings. 
 Then you could even park across the street for $5.  Now those parking 
 lots have been replaced by condos and the nearest parking the last time 
 I went was $15 for the day.  Add the cost of gas and the bridge toll and 
 it makes for an expensive day.  Of course you can take BART ... if you 
 want to. :-D
 
 http://newlivingexpo.com/
 
 I call San Francisco No Parking because you'll see more of those signs 
 than anything else. Unfortunately BART was an expensive blunder and 
 doesn't get everywhere.  Probably a light rail system would have been 
 more successful.
 
 On 04/18/2011 04:08 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
  I did commute to the city for six years, so have travelled quite a bit 
  around the city. My favorite Indian place is Pakwan in Mission. As soon as 
  my Saturn dasha started I quit my work and now moved away from the West to 
  the East Bay, funny how things work out. My brother-in-law wanted me to 
  move to the east closer to my brother in Boston because of Saturn but I 
  argued that it could be east in the Bay area and that's how it turned out 
  to be - but I do miss the beautiful Sunsets.
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Johnjr_esq@  wrote:
  You should visit the City more often.  Have lunch at the Indian 
  restaurant.  The price is reasonable and it's all you can eat.  Then, take 
  the scenic drive as I did.
 
  JR
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogiraviyogi@  wrote:
  Love that place, haven't been to the city in a long time though.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Johnjr_esq@  wrote:
  After having lunch at an Indian restaurant at Geary and 25th Ave., I
  decided to take the scenic drive starting at Lincoln Park golf course.
  I ended up parking my car on Hyde Street where the cable cars pass to
  get to the Square.  I was about two blocks up the hill of Buena Vista
  Cafe, another San Francisco landmark.
  After reaching the bottom of the hill, I passed by the Cannery Row and
  then walked towards Fishermen's Wharf.  On the other side of the street
  is Cappuro's Restaurant, a business owned by a high school classmate's
  family.
  Then I walked towards the parking lot where I used to work when I was
  in high school.  The parking lot is now surrounded by various vendors
  selling various wares for the tourists.
  After several minutes of walking, I ended up at the Square again where
  I bought a chocolate ice cream on a sugar cone.  I also ended up buying
  a gift pack of chocolates to take home.
  Then, I drove home listening to a CD playing various Latin numbers
  featuring chacha and mambo tunes.  Que sabroso...
 
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-19 Thread John


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:

 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   After having lunch at an Indian restaurant at Geary and
   25th Ave.,You didn't tell us what time  I decided to take the scenic
 drive starting at
   Lincoln Park golf course. I ended up parking my car on
   Hyde Street where the cable cars pass to get to the
   Square. which side of the street? I was about two blocks up the hill
 of Buena
   Vista Cafe, another San Francisco landmark.
  
   After reaching the bottom of the hill, I passed by the
   Cannery Row were there any benches on the sidewalk? and then walked
 towards Fishermen's Wharf.
   On the other side of the street is Cappuro's Restaurant,
   a business owned by a high school classmate's family. oh wow.  was
 your friend of average height, or was he shorter or taller than most
 other classmates?
  
   Then I walked towards the parking lot where I used to
   work when I was in high school. The parking lot is now
   surrounded by various vendors selling various wares for
   the tourists.  you mean like little replicas of the Golden Gate
 Bridge, or like trolley cars?  About how many vendors do you think there
 were?
  
   After several minutes of walking, I ended up at the
   Square again where I bought a chocolate ice cream on a
   sugar cone. did any of the ice cream drip from the bottom?  Also,
 did they charge extra for the sugar cone?  Sometimes they do I also
 ended up buying a gift pack of
   chocolates to take home.  they didn't get melty did they?
  
   Then, I drove home listening to a CD playing various
   Latin numbers featuring chacha and mambo tunes. Que
   sabroso... was there much traffic?  how many traffic lights do you
 estimate you had to go through?  Any idea of how many were green, how
 many yellow, how many red?
 
 
 Seems like you left out a lot of details here.


Seventhray1,

I'm developing a new style of writing a la Ernest Hemingway.  Or, it could be 
called the minimalist style for struggling writers.  But I'm glad the piece 
elicited a reaction from you and others.


JR














[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-19 Thread John


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:

 After having lunch at an Indian restaurant at Geary and
 25th Ave., I decided to take the scenic drive starting at
 Lincoln Park golf course.  I ended up parking my car on
 Hyde Street where the cable cars pass to get to the
 Square.  I was about two blocks up the hill of Buena
 Vista Cafe, another San Francisco landmark.
 
 After reaching the bottom of the hill, I passed by the
 Cannery Row and then walked towards Fishermen's Wharf.
 On the other side of the street is Cappuro's Restaurant,
 a business owned by a high school classmate's family.
 
 Then I walked towards the parking lot where I used to
 work when I was in high school.  The parking lot is now
 surrounded by various vendors selling various wares for
 the tourists.
 
 After several minutes of walking, I ended up at the
 Square again where I bought a chocolate ice cream on a
 sugar cone.  I also ended up buying a gift pack of
 chocolates to take home.
 
 Then, I drove home listening to a CD playing various
 Latin numbers featuring chacha and mambo tunes.  Que
 sabroso...

Yeah, but what did you see that reminded you of FFL?
   
   Judy,
   
   All of those scenes have a connection to FFL.  For example,
   we are very familiar with Indian foods and what they mean
   in physical and spiritual sense.
   
   The golf course represents the need for recreation to enjoy
   life and experience bliss which the members are aware of in
   their meditation practice.
  
  Judy,
  
  The scenes during the walk represent the various experiences
  that the members have during the waking consciousness.
  
  The ice cream and chocolates are the sweetness we experience
  during TC as we continue the meditation practice.
  
  The drive home with the music represents the meditation
  practice as we hope to get home to attain cosmic
  consciousness.
 
 Well, yes, but you must have drawn some conclusions, had some
 critiques, some advice, some words of wisdom for us on how we
 should conduct our lives and how we are to think about things,
 how we can make ourselves better people by adjusting our
 spiritual and everyday perspectives to bring them into accord
 with, you know, whatever it is you want us to bring them into
 accord with.
 
 I mean, there's no *sermon* attached to your account. You
 didn't *denounce* anybody; you didn't hold anybody up as a
 shining example for praise and exaltation, not even yourself!
 
 That's what we're used to here. I realize this is your first
 attempt to write a How What I Saw During My Walk Made It
 Clear Just What Is Wrong with FFL piece, but you need to
 think about the didactic element, the lesson to be learned.
 That's really what you should start with, and then figure
 out how to wrap your experiences on the walk around it, so
 that it appears the profound insights came from your walk.
 
 Maybe it would help if you got a dog or two?

Judy,

I wrote that essay based on how I felt at the moment, or stream of 
consciousness as others may say.  But it apparently caught some of the style 
from the vedic literature, which I've been pondering in relationship with 
jyotish principles.  As you can see, there may be some deep symbolisms that are 
hidden in the writing.

Now Ravi has found that there could be a new meditation technique that revolves 
around chocolates for the enlightenment of all.  If nothing else, this 
technique should be good for anyone's taste buds.

And, I apparently even got seventhray1 curious for the sequel to the essay.  
Even Sal Sunshine got in some of her trademark snippets.

A dog or two?  Who could those be?  If you look hard enough, the 
message/symbolism may be found in the essay itself.  


Regards,

JR
   








 
 ;-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-19 Thread Ravi Yogi
Sanjay is a good astrologer but if you do attend please be discriminating 
enough to absorb the good techniques he passes along and reject the personal 
propaganda that he and his disciples indulge in like Sun in 5th is a good 
indicator of moksha - that's from his chart and just plain BS. He is a good 
jyotish Guru and that's it - you can ignore some of the spiritual crap that he 
dumps along.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 Bhairitu,
 
 Now that you mentioned astrologers, I just got an email from someone that 
 Sanjay Rath, a well-known jyotishi from India, will be coming back to the Bay 
 Area to hold a seminar on how to read the Vimsamsa Chart among other things.  
 He's scheduled to teach around the latter part of May 2011.  The organizers 
 are still trying to find a venue to hold the seminar at the present moment.
 
 JR
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  And this weekend is woo-woo weekend at 8th and Brannon with the New 
  Living Expo.  For $15 you can see all the crystals, astrologers, gurus, 
  water filtering system and eat all kinds of vegetarian food.  These are 
  kinda fun especially in the 1990s when they were huge and next door at 
  the Fashion Center with shows spilling over to other nearby buildings. 
  Then you could even park across the street for $5.  Now those parking 
  lots have been replaced by condos and the nearest parking the last time 
  I went was $15 for the day.  Add the cost of gas and the bridge toll and 
  it makes for an expensive day.  Of course you can take BART ... if you 
  want to. :-D
  
  http://newlivingexpo.com/
  
  I call San Francisco No Parking because you'll see more of those signs 
  than anything else. Unfortunately BART was an expensive blunder and 
  doesn't get everywhere.  Probably a light rail system would have been 
  more successful.
  
  On 04/18/2011 04:08 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
   I did commute to the city for six years, so have travelled quite a bit 
   around the city. My favorite Indian place is Pakwan in Mission. As soon 
   as my Saturn dasha started I quit my work and now moved away from the 
   West to the East Bay, funny how things work out. My brother-in-law wanted 
   me to move to the east closer to my brother in Boston because of Saturn 
   but I argued that it could be east in the Bay area and that's how it 
   turned out to be - but I do miss the beautiful Sunsets.
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Johnjr_esq@  wrote:
   You should visit the City more often.  Have lunch at the Indian 
   restaurant.  The price is reasonable and it's all you can eat.  Then, 
   take the scenic drive as I did.
  
   JR
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogiraviyogi@  wrote:
   Love that place, haven't been to the city in a long time though.
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Johnjr_esq@  wrote:
   After having lunch at an Indian restaurant at Geary and 25th Ave., I
   decided to take the scenic drive starting at Lincoln Park golf course.
   I ended up parking my car on Hyde Street where the cable cars pass to
   get to the Square.  I was about two blocks up the hill of Buena Vista
   Cafe, another San Francisco landmark.
   After reaching the bottom of the hill, I passed by the Cannery Row and
   then walked towards Fishermen's Wharf.  On the other side of the street
   is Cappuro's Restaurant, a business owned by a high school classmate's
   family.
   Then I walked towards the parking lot where I used to work when I was
   in high school.  The parking lot is now surrounded by various vendors
   selling various wares for the tourists.
   After several minutes of walking, I ended up at the Square again where
   I bought a chocolate ice cream on a sugar cone.  I also ended up buying
   a gift pack of chocolates to take home.
   Then, I drove home listening to a CD playing various Latin numbers
   featuring chacha and mambo tunes.  Que sabroso...
  
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 After having lunch at an Indian restaurant at Geary and
 25th Ave., I decided to take the scenic drive starting at
 Lincoln Park golf course.  I ended up parking my car on
 Hyde Street where the cable cars pass to get to the
 Square.  I was about two blocks up the hill of Buena
 Vista Cafe, another San Francisco landmark.
 
 After reaching the bottom of the hill, I passed by the
 Cannery Row and then walked towards Fishermen's Wharf.
 On the other side of the street is Cappuro's Restaurant,
 a business owned by a high school classmate's family.
 
 Then I walked towards the parking lot where I used to
 work when I was in high school.  The parking lot is now
 surrounded by various vendors selling various wares for
 the tourists.
 
 After several minutes of walking, I ended up at the
 Square again where I bought a chocolate ice cream on a
 sugar cone.  I also ended up buying a gift pack of
 chocolates to take home.
 
 Then, I drove home listening to a CD playing various
 Latin numbers featuring chacha and mambo tunes.  Que
 sabroso...

Yeah, but what did you see that reminded you of FFL?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-18 Thread John


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  After having lunch at an Indian restaurant at Geary and
  25th Ave., I decided to take the scenic drive starting at
  Lincoln Park golf course.  I ended up parking my car on
  Hyde Street where the cable cars pass to get to the
  Square.  I was about two blocks up the hill of Buena
  Vista Cafe, another San Francisco landmark.
  
  After reaching the bottom of the hill, I passed by the
  Cannery Row and then walked towards Fishermen's Wharf.
  On the other side of the street is Cappuro's Restaurant,
  a business owned by a high school classmate's family.
  
  Then I walked towards the parking lot where I used to
  work when I was in high school.  The parking lot is now
  surrounded by various vendors selling various wares for
  the tourists.
  
  After several minutes of walking, I ended up at the
  Square again where I bought a chocolate ice cream on a
  sugar cone.  I also ended up buying a gift pack of
  chocolates to take home.
  
  Then, I drove home listening to a CD playing various
  Latin numbers featuring chacha and mambo tunes.  Que
  sabroso...
 
 Yeah, but what did you see that reminded you of FFL?

Judy,

All of those scenes have a connection to FFL.  For example, we are very 
familiar with Indian foods and what they mean in physical and spiritual sense.

The golf course represents the need for recreation to enjoy life and experience 
bliss which the members are aware of in their meditation practice.








[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-18 Thread John
You should visit the City more often.  Have lunch at the Indian restaurant.  
The price is reasonable and it's all you can eat.  Then, take the scenic drive 
as I did.

JR

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 Love that place, haven't been to the city in a long time though.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  After having lunch at an Indian restaurant at Geary and 25th Ave., I
 decided to take the scenic drive starting at Lincoln Park golf course. 
 I ended up parking my car on Hyde Street where the cable cars pass to
 get to the Square.  I was about two blocks up the hill of Buena Vista
 Cafe, another San Francisco landmark.
 
  After reaching the bottom of the hill, I passed by the Cannery Row and
 then walked towards Fishermen's Wharf.  On the other side of the street
 is Cappuro's Restaurant, a business owned by a high school classmate's
 family.
 
  Then I walked towards the parking lot where I used to work when I was
 in high school.  The parking lot is now surrounded by various vendors
 selling various wares for the tourists.
 
  After several minutes of walking, I ended up at the Square again where
 I bought a chocolate ice cream on a sugar cone.  I also ended up buying
 a gift pack of chocolates to take home.
 
  Then, I drove home listening to a CD playing various Latin numbers
 featuring chacha and mambo tunes.  Que sabroso...
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-18 Thread John


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   After having lunch at an Indian restaurant at Geary and
   25th Ave., I decided to take the scenic drive starting at
   Lincoln Park golf course.  I ended up parking my car on
   Hyde Street where the cable cars pass to get to the
   Square.  I was about two blocks up the hill of Buena
   Vista Cafe, another San Francisco landmark.
   
   After reaching the bottom of the hill, I passed by the
   Cannery Row and then walked towards Fishermen's Wharf.
   On the other side of the street is Cappuro's Restaurant,
   a business owned by a high school classmate's family.
   
   Then I walked towards the parking lot where I used to
   work when I was in high school.  The parking lot is now
   surrounded by various vendors selling various wares for
   the tourists.
   
   After several minutes of walking, I ended up at the
   Square again where I bought a chocolate ice cream on a
   sugar cone.  I also ended up buying a gift pack of
   chocolates to take home.
   
   Then, I drove home listening to a CD playing various
   Latin numbers featuring chacha and mambo tunes.  Que
   sabroso...
  
  Yeah, but what did you see that reminded you of FFL?
 
 Judy,
 
 All of those scenes have a connection to FFL.  For example, we are very 
 familiar with Indian foods and what they mean in physical and spiritual sense.
 
 The golf course represents the need for recreation to enjoy life and 
 experience bliss which the members are aware of in their meditation practice.
 

Judy,

The scenes during the walk represent the various experiences that the members 
have during the waking consciousness.

The ice cream and chocolates are the sweetness we experience during TC as we 
continue the meditation practice.

The drive home with the music represents the meditation practice as we hope to 
get home to attain cosmic consciousness.

JR






 
 
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-18 Thread Ravi Yogi

I did commute to the city for six years, so have travelled quite a bit around 
the city. My favorite Indian place is Pakwan in Mission. As soon as my Saturn 
dasha started I quit my work and now moved away from the West to the East Bay, 
funny how things work out. My brother-in-law wanted me to move to the east 
closer to my brother in Boston because of Saturn but I argued that it could be 
east in the Bay area and that's how it turned out to be - but I do miss the 
beautiful Sunsets.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 You should visit the City more often.  Have lunch at the Indian restaurant.  
 The price is reasonable and it's all you can eat.  Then, take the scenic 
 drive as I did.
 
 JR
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
  Love that place, haven't been to the city in a long time though.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   After having lunch at an Indian restaurant at Geary and 25th Ave., I
  decided to take the scenic drive starting at Lincoln Park golf course. 
  I ended up parking my car on Hyde Street where the cable cars pass to
  get to the Square.  I was about two blocks up the hill of Buena Vista
  Cafe, another San Francisco landmark.
  
   After reaching the bottom of the hill, I passed by the Cannery Row and
  then walked towards Fishermen's Wharf.  On the other side of the street
  is Cappuro's Restaurant, a business owned by a high school classmate's
  family.
  
   Then I walked towards the parking lot where I used to work when I was
  in high school.  The parking lot is now surrounded by various vendors
  selling various wares for the tourists.
  
   After several minutes of walking, I ended up at the Square again where
  I bought a chocolate ice cream on a sugar cone.  I also ended up buying
  a gift pack of chocolates to take home.
  
   Then, I drove home listening to a CD playing various Latin numbers
  featuring chacha and mambo tunes.  Que sabroso...
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-18 Thread seventhray1


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  After having lunch at an Indian restaurant at Geary and
  25th Ave.,You didn't tell us what time  I decided to take the scenic
drive starting at
  Lincoln Park golf course. I ended up parking my car on
  Hyde Street where the cable cars pass to get to the
  Square. which side of the street? I was about two blocks up the hill
of Buena
  Vista Cafe, another San Francisco landmark.
 
  After reaching the bottom of the hill, I passed by the
  Cannery Row were there any benches on the sidewalk? and then walked
towards Fishermen's Wharf.
  On the other side of the street is Cappuro's Restaurant,
  a business owned by a high school classmate's family. oh wow.  was
your friend of average height, or was he shorter or taller than most
other classmates?
 
  Then I walked towards the parking lot where I used to
  work when I was in high school. The parking lot is now
  surrounded by various vendors selling various wares for
  the tourists.  you mean like little replicas of the Golden Gate
Bridge, or like trolley cars?  About how many vendors do you think there
were?
 
  After several minutes of walking, I ended up at the
  Square again where I bought a chocolate ice cream on a
  sugar cone. did any of the ice cream drip from the bottom?  Also,
did they charge extra for the sugar cone?  Sometimes they do I also
ended up buying a gift pack of
  chocolates to take home.  they didn't get melty did they?
 
  Then, I drove home listening to a CD playing various
  Latin numbers featuring chacha and mambo tunes. Que
  sabroso... was there much traffic?  how many traffic lights do you
estimate you had to go through?  Any idea of how many were green, how
many yellow, how many red?


Seems like you left out a lot of details here.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-18 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
 All of those scenes have a connection to FFL. For example, we are very
familiar with Indian foods and what they mean in physical and spiritual
sense.

 The golf course represents the need for recreation to enjoy life and
experience bliss which the members are aware of in their meditation
practice.
Or maybe the 18 holes represent the 18 limbs of yoga, give or take a
few.  The tees are representative of the start of our spiritual journey.
Of course the ladies tees are closer in  possibly because women are more
refined to begin with.  And maybe a hole in one, which would be the
ultimate achievement is really a code for the whole of one.  You may not
have wanted to spell it out so explicitly.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-18 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Apr 18, 2011, at 10:13 PM, seventhray1 wrote:
Seems like you left out a lot of details here.

lol...


Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
   
After having lunch at an Indian restaurant at Geary and
25th Ave., I decided to take the scenic drive starting at
Lincoln Park golf course.  I ended up parking my car on
Hyde Street where the cable cars pass to get to the
Square.  I was about two blocks up the hill of Buena
Vista Cafe, another San Francisco landmark.

After reaching the bottom of the hill, I passed by the
Cannery Row and then walked towards Fishermen's Wharf.
On the other side of the street is Cappuro's Restaurant,
a business owned by a high school classmate's family.

Then I walked towards the parking lot where I used to
work when I was in high school.  The parking lot is now
surrounded by various vendors selling various wares for
the tourists.

After several minutes of walking, I ended up at the
Square again where I bought a chocolate ice cream on a
sugar cone.  I also ended up buying a gift pack of
chocolates to take home.

Then, I drove home listening to a CD playing various
Latin numbers featuring chacha and mambo tunes.  Que
sabroso...
   
   Yeah, but what did you see that reminded you of FFL?
  
  Judy,
  
  All of those scenes have a connection to FFL.  For example,
  we are very familiar with Indian foods and what they mean
  in physical and spiritual sense.
  
  The golf course represents the need for recreation to enjoy
  life and experience bliss which the members are aware of in
  their meditation practice.
 
 Judy,
 
 The scenes during the walk represent the various experiences
 that the members have during the waking consciousness.
 
 The ice cream and chocolates are the sweetness we experience
 during TC as we continue the meditation practice.
 
 The drive home with the music represents the meditation
 practice as we hope to get home to attain cosmic
 consciousness.

Well, yes, but you must have drawn some conclusions, had some
critiques, some advice, some words of wisdom for us on how we
should conduct our lives and how we are to think about things,
how we can make ourselves better people by adjusting our
spiritual and everyday perspectives to bring them into accord
with, you know, whatever it is you want us to bring them into
accord with.

I mean, there's no *sermon* attached to your account. You
didn't *denounce* anybody; you didn't hold anybody up as a
shining example for praise and exaltation, not even yourself!

That's what we're used to here. I realize this is your first
attempt to write a How What I Saw During My Walk Made It
Clear Just What Is Wrong with FFL piece, but you need to
think about the didactic element, the lesson to be learned.
That's really what you should start with, and then figure
out how to wrap your experiences on the walk around it, so
that it appears the profound insights came from your walk.

Maybe it would help if you got a dog or two?

;-)




[FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square

2011-04-17 Thread Ravi Yogi
Love that place, haven't been to the city in a long time though.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 After having lunch at an Indian restaurant at Geary and 25th Ave., I
decided to take the scenic drive starting at Lincoln Park golf course. 
I ended up parking my car on Hyde Street where the cable cars pass to
get to the Square.  I was about two blocks up the hill of Buena Vista
Cafe, another San Francisco landmark.

 After reaching the bottom of the hill, I passed by the Cannery Row and
then walked towards Fishermen's Wharf.  On the other side of the street
is Cappuro's Restaurant, a business owned by a high school classmate's
family.

 Then I walked towards the parking lot where I used to work when I was
in high school.  The parking lot is now surrounded by various vendors
selling various wares for the tourists.

 After several minutes of walking, I ended up at the Square again where
I bought a chocolate ice cream on a sugar cone.  I also ended up buying
a gift pack of chocolates to take home.

 Then, I drove home listening to a CD playing various Latin numbers
featuring chacha and mambo tunes.  Que sabroso...