[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry: what can you tell us of Europe's reaction to Amanda Knox?

2010-03-19 Thread Hugo


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  I don't know who Amanda Knox is and don't care. 
  
  Most Europeans I know wouldn't know or care, either.
  
 
 
 Interesting.
 
 Most media accounts I've read or seen here specifically said that the Amanda 
 Knox case was gripping all of Europe.
 
 Anther thing they got wrong, I suppose.



It was a big deal here, it had all the ingredients for a 
juicy story. Sex, drugs, murder, innocents abroad, allegedly 
incompetent/corrupt police.

Endless speculation in the press divided along editors ethical
lines, was she fitted up or is she a cold-blooded killer?

General consensus among the lefty press is that they found
her guilty to save face in the police dept even though there
wasn't any real evidence and she'll be freed on appeal. The 
right wing press consider her spawn of the devil and guilty 
as charged. The rest of us wil probably never know.

 
 
  To be honest, if you had asked me this question a week
  ago, I would have said that I simply don't understand
  Americans' fascination with media-fueled crime stories.
  
  But now I've been stuck in my hotel room for extended
  periods of time waiting for conference calls with only
  my TV and remote control to amuse me, and I understand
  better. The programming on American TV is so bad that
  the crime stories on the news are often more entertain-
  ing. :-)
  
  The worst so far is Bad Girls Club, which seems to 
  be what they call a reality show in which they pit
  seven or eight megabitches against each other for
  several days to see who can dirty-trick the others
  out of the running for Big Bitch. Horrific.
  
  I must admit to not having discovered anything I wasn't
  watching already that I feel like continuing to watch.
  I did watch a few more old episodes of Bones, and
  have come to like Zooey Deschanel's sister Emily. Not
  enough to keep watching the series, but she seems to
  be a better actress than Zooey. And they could easily
  both be TM meditators, so that may even reduces my 
  anti-TM quotient.
  
  Since my friends here can't get together with me until
  10:00 tonight, I'm looking forward to watching the
  resuming series Fastforward to see whether they'll be
  able to come up with anything interesting.
  
  But I haven't been able to make it through more than 2
  or 3 minutes of *any* news show. Enough to realize that
  FOX is even more over-the-top than I thought it was, and
  that sadly most of the others aren't that far behind. So
  I'm really not the person to ask about some news story
  personality.
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
  
   The following is from amazon.com's product description of the book Angel 
   Face: the true story of student killer Amanda Knox:
   
Despite all the airtime devoted to Amanda Knox, it's still hard to 
   reconcile the fresh-faced honor student from Seattle with the sexually 
   rapacious killer convicted of the November 2007 murder of her British 
   roommate. Few Americans have heard all of the powerful evidence that 
   convinced a jury that Knox was one of three people to sexually assault 
   Meredith Kercher, brutalize her body, and cut her throat. In Angel Face, 
   Rome-based Daily Beast senior writer Barbie Latza Nadeau – who cultivated 
   personal relationships with the key figures in both the prosecution and 
   the defense – describes how the Knox family's heavy-handed efforts to 
   control media coverage distorted the facts, inflamed an American 
   audience, and painted an offensive, inaccurate picture of Italy's justice 
   system. An eye-opener for any parent considering sending a child away to 
   study, Angel Face reveals what really went on in this incomprehensible 
   crime.
   
   I certainly was hoodwinked by several American news magazine stories 
   (like 20/20 and Dateline) into believing that Knox was innocent.  But 
   after reading several blogs to the contrary, I believe she's quite guilty.
   
   Barry, are you aware of this case and, if so, can you give us Europe's 
   reaction to it?
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry: what can you tell us of Europe's reaction to Amanda Knox?

2010-03-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

What have you found Shemp?  I know a little about this crazy Italian prosecutor 
(under indictment in other cases for misconduct and abuse of power)  from the 
book The Monster of Florence where he tried to run this whole satanic cult 
routine on an American journalist who was writing a book about a serial killer. 
 That story was so parallel to what happened to Amanda that I'm still in the 
innocent camp.

They have a ton of real forensic evidence on the guy they convicted first.  
What makes you think there is more to the story than the one guy with a rape 
motive who was not friends with Amanda doing the crime?  And she would have to 
be really in cahoots with him because she mistakenly fingered another guy 
during the prolonged interrogation. An obviously innocent guy.  A desperate 
move of a terrified girl. So she would have to be willing to go to jail rather 
than give the guy up.  Why?  He fled  the country and Amanda and boyfriend 
stuck around and phoned in the crime.  Then the guy they first convicted got 
caught and brought back to Italy doesn't immediately give up Amanda or the 
boyfriend either.  He holds out until they give him a deal specifically for 
saying they were involved later.

And comparing the family inflaming the American public to the inflaming 
articles in Italy with a non sequestered jury seems a bit much. A charge that 
the parents manipulated the media seems far fetched, it makes just as good a 
story either way. The judge basically said there was no motive.  She just 
happened to get together with a drifter criminal and due to the consumption of  
stupefacente (refer madness)commit bloody murder? It was a total Helter Skelter 
scene with such a small amount of trace of Amanda and boyfriend that the it was 
destroyed by the prosecutor's testing so the defense couldn't have it 
independently tested.


I would love to have my perspective rocked on this, where should I go, what 
blogs?




 The following is from amazon.com's product description of the book Angel 
 Face: the true story of student killer Amanda Knox:
 
  Despite all the airtime devoted to Amanda Knox, it's still hard to 
 reconcile the fresh-faced honor student from Seattle with the sexually 
 rapacious killer convicted of the November 2007 murder of her British 
 roommate. Few Americans have heard all of the powerful evidence that 
 convinced a jury that Knox was one of three people to sexually assault 
 Meredith Kercher, brutalize her body, and cut her throat. In Angel Face, 
 Rome-based Daily Beast senior writer Barbie Latza Nadeau – who cultivated 
 personal relationships with the key figures in both the prosecution and the 
 defense – describes how the Knox family's heavy-handed efforts to control 
 media coverage distorted the facts, inflamed an American audience, and 
 painted an offensive, inaccurate picture of Italy's justice system. An 
 eye-opener for any parent considering sending a child away to study, Angel 
 Face reveals what really went on in this incomprehensible crime.
 
 I certainly was hoodwinked by several American news magazine stories (like 
 20/20 and Dateline) into believing that Knox was innocent.  But after reading 
 several blogs to the contrary, I believe she's quite guilty.
 
 Barry, are you aware of this case and, if so, can you give us Europe's 
 reaction to it?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry: what can you tell us of Europe's reaction to Amanda Knox?

2010-03-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  I don't know who Amanda Knox is and don't care. 
  
  Most Europeans I know wouldn't know or care, either.
  
 
 
 Interesting.
 
 Most media accounts I've read or seen here specifically said that the Amanda 
 Knox case was gripping all of Europe.
 
 Anther thing they got wrong, I suppose.

Fascination with sensational crime stories is a universal human trait.  The 
evil outsider committing a crime is an Italian archetype perhaps more than in 
other countries.  And 'outsider can mean from the next valley over. 


 
 
 
  To be honest, if you had asked me this question a week
  ago, I would have said that I simply don't understand
  Americans' fascination with media-fueled crime stories.
  
  But now I've been stuck in my hotel room for extended
  periods of time waiting for conference calls with only
  my TV and remote control to amuse me, and I understand
  better. The programming on American TV is so bad that
  the crime stories on the news are often more entertain-
  ing. :-)
  
  The worst so far is Bad Girls Club, which seems to 
  be what they call a reality show in which they pit
  seven or eight megabitches against each other for
  several days to see who can dirty-trick the others
  out of the running for Big Bitch. Horrific.
  
  I must admit to not having discovered anything I wasn't
  watching already that I feel like continuing to watch.
  I did watch a few more old episodes of Bones, and
  have come to like Zooey Deschanel's sister Emily. Not
  enough to keep watching the series, but she seems to
  be a better actress than Zooey. And they could easily
  both be TM meditators, so that may even reduces my 
  anti-TM quotient.
  
  Since my friends here can't get together with me until
  10:00 tonight, I'm looking forward to watching the
  resuming series Fastforward to see whether they'll be
  able to come up with anything interesting.
  
  But I haven't been able to make it through more than 2
  or 3 minutes of *any* news show. Enough to realize that
  FOX is even more over-the-top than I thought it was, and
  that sadly most of the others aren't that far behind. So
  I'm really not the person to ask about some news story
  personality.
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
  
   The following is from amazon.com's product description of the book Angel 
   Face: the true story of student killer Amanda Knox:
   
Despite all the airtime devoted to Amanda Knox, it's still hard to 
   reconcile the fresh-faced honor student from Seattle with the sexually 
   rapacious killer convicted of the November 2007 murder of her British 
   roommate. Few Americans have heard all of the powerful evidence that 
   convinced a jury that Knox was one of three people to sexually assault 
   Meredith Kercher, brutalize her body, and cut her throat. In Angel Face, 
   Rome-based Daily Beast senior writer Barbie Latza Nadeau – who cultivated 
   personal relationships with the key figures in both the prosecution and 
   the defense – describes how the Knox family's heavy-handed efforts to 
   control media coverage distorted the facts, inflamed an American 
   audience, and painted an offensive, inaccurate picture of Italy's justice 
   system. An eye-opener for any parent considering sending a child away to 
   study, Angel Face reveals what really went on in this incomprehensible 
   crime.
   
   I certainly was hoodwinked by several American news magazine stories 
   (like 20/20 and Dateline) into believing that Knox was innocent.  But 
   after reading several blogs to the contrary, I believe she's quite guilty.
   
   Barry, are you aware of this case and, if so, can you give us Europe's 
   reaction to it?
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry: what can you tell us of Europe's reaction to Amanda Knox?

2010-03-19 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  I don't know who Amanda Knox is and don't care. 
  
  Most Europeans I know wouldn't know or care, either.
  
 
 
 Interesting.
 
 Most media accounts I've read or seen here specifically said that the Amanda 
 Knox case was gripping all of Europe.
 
 Anther thing they got wrong, I suppose.

Not so. Here in the UK it had enormous coverage.

I would say most people were bemused, didn't know what
to make of it. A very odd crime and a very odd story.


  To be honest, if you had asked me this question a week
  ago, I would have said that I simply don't understand
  Americans' fascination with media-fueled crime stories.
  
  But now I've been stuck in my hotel room for extended
  periods of time waiting for conference calls with only
  my TV and remote control to amuse me, and I understand
  better. The programming on American TV is so bad that
  the crime stories on the news are often more entertain-
  ing. :-)
  
  The worst so far is Bad Girls Club, which seems to 
  be what they call a reality show in which they pit
  seven or eight megabitches against each other for
  several days to see who can dirty-trick the others
  out of the running for Big Bitch. Horrific.
  
  I must admit to not having discovered anything I wasn't
  watching already that I feel like continuing to watch.
  I did watch a few more old episodes of Bones, and
  have come to like Zooey Deschanel's sister Emily. Not
  enough to keep watching the series, but she seems to
  be a better actress than Zooey. And they could easily
  both be TM meditators, so that may even reduces my 
  anti-TM quotient.
  
  Since my friends here can't get together with me until
  10:00 tonight, I'm looking forward to watching the
  resuming series Fastforward to see whether they'll be
  able to come up with anything interesting.
  
  But I haven't been able to make it through more than 2
  or 3 minutes of *any* news show. Enough to realize that
  FOX is even more over-the-top than I thought it was, and
  that sadly most of the others aren't that far behind. So
  I'm really not the person to ask about some news story
  personality.
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
  
   The following is from amazon.com's product description of the book Angel 
   Face: the true story of student killer Amanda Knox:
   
Despite all the airtime devoted to Amanda Knox, it's still hard to 
   reconcile the fresh-faced honor student from Seattle with the sexually 
   rapacious killer convicted of the November 2007 murder of her British 
   roommate. Few Americans have heard all of the powerful evidence that 
   convinced a jury that Knox was one of three people to sexually assault 
   Meredith Kercher, brutalize her body, and cut her throat. In Angel Face, 
   Rome-based Daily Beast senior writer Barbie Latza Nadeau – who cultivated 
   personal relationships with the key figures in both the prosecution and 
   the defense – describes how the Knox family's heavy-handed efforts to 
   control media coverage distorted the facts, inflamed an American 
   audience, and painted an offensive, inaccurate picture of Italy's justice 
   system. An eye-opener for any parent considering sending a child away to 
   study, Angel Face reveals what really went on in this incomprehensible 
   crime.
   
   I certainly was hoodwinked by several American news magazine stories 
   (like 20/20 and Dateline) into believing that Knox was innocent.  But 
   after reading several blogs to the contrary, I believe she's quite guilty.
   
   Barry, are you aware of this case and, if so, can you give us Europe's 
   reaction to it?
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry: what can you tell us of Europe's reaction to Amanda Knox?

2010-03-19 Thread ShempMcGurk


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodle...@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  
   I don't know who Amanda Knox is and don't care. 
   
   Most Europeans I know wouldn't know or care, either.
   
  
  
  Interesting.
  
  Most media accounts I've read or seen here specifically said that the 
  Amanda Knox case was gripping all of Europe.
  
  Anther thing they got wrong, I suppose.
 
 
 
 It was a big deal here,




Where is here?



 it had all the ingredients for a 
 juicy story. Sex, drugs, murder, innocents abroad, allegedly 
 incompetent/corrupt police.
 
 Endless speculation in the press divided along editors ethical
 lines, was she fitted up or is she a cold-blooded killer?
 
 General consensus among the lefty press is that they found
 her guilty to save face in the police dept even though there
 wasn't any real evidence and she'll be freed on appeal. The 
 right wing press consider her spawn of the devil and guilty 
 as charged. The rest of us wil probably never know.
 
  
  
   To be honest, if you had asked me this question a week
   ago, I would have said that I simply don't understand
   Americans' fascination with media-fueled crime stories.
   
   But now I've been stuck in my hotel room for extended
   periods of time waiting for conference calls with only
   my TV and remote control to amuse me, and I understand
   better. The programming on American TV is so bad that
   the crime stories on the news are often more entertain-
   ing. :-)
   
   The worst so far is Bad Girls Club, which seems to 
   be what they call a reality show in which they pit
   seven or eight megabitches against each other for
   several days to see who can dirty-trick the others
   out of the running for Big Bitch. Horrific.
   
   I must admit to not having discovered anything I wasn't
   watching already that I feel like continuing to watch.
   I did watch a few more old episodes of Bones, and
   have come to like Zooey Deschanel's sister Emily. Not
   enough to keep watching the series, but she seems to
   be a better actress than Zooey. And they could easily
   both be TM meditators, so that may even reduces my 
   anti-TM quotient.
   
   Since my friends here can't get together with me until
   10:00 tonight, I'm looking forward to watching the
   resuming series Fastforward to see whether they'll be
   able to come up with anything interesting.
   
   But I haven't been able to make it through more than 2
   or 3 minutes of *any* news show. Enough to realize that
   FOX is even more over-the-top than I thought it was, and
   that sadly most of the others aren't that far behind. So
   I'm really not the person to ask about some news story
   personality.
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
   
The following is from amazon.com's product description of the book 
Angel Face: the true story of student killer Amanda Knox:

 Despite all the airtime devoted to Amanda Knox, it's still hard to 
reconcile the fresh-faced honor student from Seattle with the sexually 
rapacious killer convicted of the November 2007 murder of her British 
roommate. Few Americans have heard all of the powerful evidence that 
convinced a jury that Knox was one of three people to sexually assault 
Meredith Kercher, brutalize her body, and cut her throat. In Angel 
Face, Rome-based Daily Beast senior writer Barbie Latza Nadeau – who 
cultivated personal relationships with the key figures in both the 
prosecution and the defense – describes how the Knox family's 
heavy-handed efforts to control media coverage distorted the facts, 
inflamed an American audience, and painted an offensive, inaccurate 
picture of Italy's justice system. An eye-opener for any parent 
considering sending a child away to study, Angel Face reveals what 
really went on in this incomprehensible crime.

I certainly was hoodwinked by several American news magazine stories 
(like 20/20 and Dateline) into believing that Knox was innocent.  But 
after reading several blogs to the contrary, I believe she's quite 
guilty.

Barry, are you aware of this case and, if so, can you give us Europe's 
reaction to it?
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry: what can you tell us of Europe's reaction to Amanda Knox?

2010-03-19 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
 
  It was a big deal here,
 
 Where is here?
 
He's posting from a UK IP address. 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barry: what can you tell us of Europe's reaction to Amanda Knox?

2010-03-19 Thread Bhairitu
ShempMcGurk wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodle...@... wrote:
   

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
 

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
   
 I don't know who Amanda Knox is and don't care. 

 Most Europeans I know wouldn't know or care, either.

 
 Interesting.

 Most media accounts I've read or seen here specifically said that the 
 Amanda Knox case was gripping all of Europe.

 Anther thing they got wrong, I suppose.

   
 It was a big deal here,
 




 Where is here?

I think Barry like me does not pay a whole lot of attention to pop 
news.  We get these stories because MSM wants to bump stuff we should be 
paying attention to and doing something about off the front pages.  
Stories like these are a diversion for the sheeple and would have been 
barely reported 20 years ago.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry: what can you tell us of Europe's reaction to Amanda Knox?

2010-03-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  
   I don't know who Amanda Knox is and don't care. 
   
   Most Europeans I know wouldn't know or care, either.
  
  Interesting.
  
  Most media accounts I've read or seen here specifically said 
  that the Amanda Knox case was gripping all of Europe.
  
  Anther thing they got wrong, I suppose.
 
 Not so. Here in the UK it had enormous coverage.
 
 I would say most people were bemused, didn't know what
 to make of it. A very odd crime and a very odd story.

I didn't say it wasn't covered, merely that I 
and the kinds of people I know would never have
watched it if it was. 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry: what can you tell us of Europe's reaction to Amanda Knox?

2010-03-19 Thread ShempMcGurk
There are several HuffingtonPost stories on Amanda that have very lively 
comments sections.  This is where I was challenged when I made my naive she's 
innocent comment. 

Here a link to one of the most lifely ones (again, read the comments sections):

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/13/amanda-knox-jail-intervie_n_390274.html

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... 
wrote:

 -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
 
 What have you found Shemp?  I know a little about this crazy Italian 
 prosecutor (under indictment in other cases for misconduct and abuse of 
 power)  from the book The Monster of Florence where he tried to run this 
 whole satanic cult routine on an American journalist who was writing a book 
 about a serial killer.  That story was so parallel to what happened to Amanda 
 that I'm still in the innocent camp.
 
 They have a ton of real forensic evidence on the guy they convicted first.  
 What makes you think there is more to the story than the one guy with a rape 
 motive who was not friends with Amanda doing the crime?  And she would have 
 to be really in cahoots with him because she mistakenly fingered another guy 
 during the prolonged interrogation. An obviously innocent guy.  A desperate 
 move of a terrified girl. So she would have to be willing to go to jail 
 rather than give the guy up.  Why?  He fled  the country and Amanda and 
 boyfriend stuck around and phoned in the crime.  Then the guy they first 
 convicted got caught and brought back to Italy doesn't immediately give up 
 Amanda or the boyfriend either.  He holds out until they give him a deal 
 specifically for saying they were involved later.
 
 And comparing the family inflaming the American public to the inflaming 
 articles in Italy with a non sequestered jury seems a bit much. A charge that 
 the parents manipulated the media seems far fetched, it makes just as good a 
 story either way. The judge basically said there was no motive.  She just 
 happened to get together with a drifter criminal and due to the consumption 
 of  stupefacente (refer madness)commit bloody murder? It was a total Helter 
 Skelter scene with such a small amount of trace of Amanda and boyfriend that 
 the it was destroyed by the prosecutor's testing so the defense couldn't have 
 it independently tested.
 
 
 I would love to have my perspective rocked on this, where should I go, what 
 blogs?
 
 
 
 
  The following is from amazon.com's product description of the book Angel 
  Face: the true story of student killer Amanda Knox:
  
   Despite all the airtime devoted to Amanda Knox, it's still hard to 
  reconcile the fresh-faced honor student from Seattle with the sexually 
  rapacious killer convicted of the November 2007 murder of her British 
  roommate. Few Americans have heard all of the powerful evidence that 
  convinced a jury that Knox was one of three people to sexually assault 
  Meredith Kercher, brutalize her body, and cut her throat. In Angel Face, 
  Rome-based Daily Beast senior writer Barbie Latza Nadeau – who cultivated 
  personal relationships with the key figures in both the prosecution and the 
  defense – describes how the Knox family's heavy-handed efforts to control 
  media coverage distorted the facts, inflamed an American audience, and 
  painted an offensive, inaccurate picture of Italy's justice system. An 
  eye-opener for any parent considering sending a child away to study, Angel 
  Face reveals what really went on in this incomprehensible crime.
  
  I certainly was hoodwinked by several American news magazine stories (like 
  20/20 and Dateline) into believing that Knox was innocent.  But after 
  reading several blogs to the contrary, I believe she's quite guilty.
  
  Barry, are you aware of this case and, if so, can you give us Europe's 
  reaction to it?
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry: what can you tell us of Europe's reaction to Amanda Knox?

2010-03-18 Thread TurquoiseB
I don't know who Amanda Knox is and don't care. 

Most Europeans I know wouldn't know or care, either.

To be honest, if you had asked me this question a week
ago, I would have said that I simply don't understand
Americans' fascination with media-fueled crime stories.

But now I've been stuck in my hotel room for extended
periods of time waiting for conference calls with only
my TV and remote control to amuse me, and I understand
better. The programming on American TV is so bad that
the crime stories on the news are often more entertain-
ing. :-)

The worst so far is Bad Girls Club, which seems to 
be what they call a reality show in which they pit
seven or eight megabitches against each other for
several days to see who can dirty-trick the others
out of the running for Big Bitch. Horrific.

I must admit to not having discovered anything I wasn't
watching already that I feel like continuing to watch.
I did watch a few more old episodes of Bones, and
have come to like Zooey Deschanel's sister Emily. Not
enough to keep watching the series, but she seems to
be a better actress than Zooey. And they could easily
both be TM meditators, so that may even reduces my 
anti-TM quotient.

Since my friends here can't get together with me until
10:00 tonight, I'm looking forward to watching the
resuming series Fastforward to see whether they'll be
able to come up with anything interesting.

But I haven't been able to make it through more than 2
or 3 minutes of *any* news show. Enough to realize that
FOX is even more over-the-top than I thought it was, and
that sadly most of the others aren't that far behind. So
I'm really not the person to ask about some news story
personality.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 The following is from amazon.com's product description of the book Angel 
 Face: the true story of student killer Amanda Knox:
 
  Despite all the airtime devoted to Amanda Knox, it's still hard to 
 reconcile the fresh-faced honor student from Seattle with the sexually 
 rapacious killer convicted of the November 2007 murder of her British 
 roommate. Few Americans have heard all of the powerful evidence that 
 convinced a jury that Knox was one of three people to sexually assault 
 Meredith Kercher, brutalize her body, and cut her throat. In Angel Face, 
 Rome-based Daily Beast senior writer Barbie Latza Nadeau – who cultivated 
 personal relationships with the key figures in both the prosecution and the 
 defense – describes how the Knox family's heavy-handed efforts to control 
 media coverage distorted the facts, inflamed an American audience, and 
 painted an offensive, inaccurate picture of Italy's justice system. An 
 eye-opener for any parent considering sending a child away to study, Angel 
 Face reveals what really went on in this incomprehensible crime.
 
 I certainly was hoodwinked by several American news magazine stories (like 
 20/20 and Dateline) into believing that Knox was innocent.  But after reading 
 several blogs to the contrary, I believe she's quite guilty.
 
 Barry, are you aware of this case and, if so, can you give us Europe's 
 reaction to it?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry: what can you tell us of Europe's reaction to Amanda Knox?

2010-03-18 Thread ShempMcGurk


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 I don't know who Amanda Knox is and don't care. 
 
 Most Europeans I know wouldn't know or care, either.
 


Interesting.

Most media accounts I've read or seen here specifically said that the Amanda 
Knox case was gripping all of Europe.

Anther thing they got wrong, I suppose.



 To be honest, if you had asked me this question a week
 ago, I would have said that I simply don't understand
 Americans' fascination with media-fueled crime stories.
 
 But now I've been stuck in my hotel room for extended
 periods of time waiting for conference calls with only
 my TV and remote control to amuse me, and I understand
 better. The programming on American TV is so bad that
 the crime stories on the news are often more entertain-
 ing. :-)
 
 The worst so far is Bad Girls Club, which seems to 
 be what they call a reality show in which they pit
 seven or eight megabitches against each other for
 several days to see who can dirty-trick the others
 out of the running for Big Bitch. Horrific.
 
 I must admit to not having discovered anything I wasn't
 watching already that I feel like continuing to watch.
 I did watch a few more old episodes of Bones, and
 have come to like Zooey Deschanel's sister Emily. Not
 enough to keep watching the series, but she seems to
 be a better actress than Zooey. And they could easily
 both be TM meditators, so that may even reduces my 
 anti-TM quotient.
 
 Since my friends here can't get together with me until
 10:00 tonight, I'm looking forward to watching the
 resuming series Fastforward to see whether they'll be
 able to come up with anything interesting.
 
 But I haven't been able to make it through more than 2
 or 3 minutes of *any* news show. Enough to realize that
 FOX is even more over-the-top than I thought it was, and
 that sadly most of the others aren't that far behind. So
 I'm really not the person to ask about some news story
 personality.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
 
  The following is from amazon.com's product description of the book Angel 
  Face: the true story of student killer Amanda Knox:
  
   Despite all the airtime devoted to Amanda Knox, it's still hard to 
  reconcile the fresh-faced honor student from Seattle with the sexually 
  rapacious killer convicted of the November 2007 murder of her British 
  roommate. Few Americans have heard all of the powerful evidence that 
  convinced a jury that Knox was one of three people to sexually assault 
  Meredith Kercher, brutalize her body, and cut her throat. In Angel Face, 
  Rome-based Daily Beast senior writer Barbie Latza Nadeau – who cultivated 
  personal relationships with the key figures in both the prosecution and the 
  defense – describes how the Knox family's heavy-handed efforts to control 
  media coverage distorted the facts, inflamed an American audience, and 
  painted an offensive, inaccurate picture of Italy's justice system. An 
  eye-opener for any parent considering sending a child away to study, Angel 
  Face reveals what really went on in this incomprehensible crime.
  
  I certainly was hoodwinked by several American news magazine stories (like 
  20/20 and Dateline) into believing that Knox was innocent.  But after 
  reading several blogs to the contrary, I believe she's quite guilty.
  
  Barry, are you aware of this case and, if so, can you give us Europe's 
  reaction to it?