[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmastan is so cool! ( Those Shristavas sure have a big house! )

2009-05-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote:

 
is 
  of the Shristava family compound near Jalapur, Madhya Pradesh 
  is 
the 
 *VERY SAME* property the agents of the tax office of the 
  Indian 
 Goverment raided in 1987.
 
 
 Hey, The TM-org link with the picture took the picture down from 
 their site.  Did anyone keep a copy of the Shristava family compound 
 that the TM-org built? 
 

As I pointed out along with others, the family compound is the Brahmastan
facility itself, as far as I can tell.


Girish's house is marked in google earth, BTW, though I forget how to find it.

His official house is in a nice neighborhood and looks to be a nice house, but
hardly a billionaire's.


Lawson



[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmastan is so cool! ( Those Shristavas sure have a big house! )

2009-05-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  
 is 
   of the Shristava family compound near Jalapur, Madhya Pradesh 
   is 
 the 
  *VERY SAME* property the agents of the tax office of the 
   Indian 
  Goverment raided in 1987.
  
  
  Hey, The TM-org link with the picture took the picture down from 
  their site.  Did anyone keep a copy of the Shristava family compound 
  that the TM-org built? 
  
 
 As I pointed out along with others, the family compound is the Brahmastan
 facility itself, as far as I can tell.
 
 
 Girish's house is marked in google earth, BTW, though I forget how to find it.
 
 His official house is in a nice neighborhood and looks to be a nice house, but
 hardly a billionaire's.
 
 
 Lawson



Typical ADHD: I went back to find posts by Mark Merideth and instead of clicking
on newest I clicked on newer and read a message from 3 years ago and 
responded
to it

I'm so embarrassed...


L



[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmastan is so cool! ( Those Shristavas sure have a big house! )

2006-10-27 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is  of the Shristava family compound near Jalapur, Madhya Pradesh   is the  *VERY SAME* property the agents of the tax office of the   Indian  Goverment raided in 1987.   Hey, The TM-org link with the picture took the picture down from  their site. Did anyone keep a copy of the Shristava family compound  that the TM-org built? 
Corleone Family Compound, Long Island, New York.
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffrey" initiate22000@  wrote:   Thanks for the pictures! They look fascinating. It isnt a home for   Maharishi's family, although I wouldnt doubt that they could be   living there. It looks like a big spiritual center. What are all   those differnt building for? it looks huge!! Is there a map to   explain what each building is? I had no idea the movement had   something like that. Does Maharishi go there ever? It looks  amazing.   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffrey" initiate22000@   wrote:   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman  no_reply@ wrote:  Rick Archer wrote:   bob_brigante wrote:mark meredith wrote:snip   You know how the pundit donationshave been used when you see bldgs   housing pundits all over India --   here's a photo of the one in the   Brahmastan of India:   http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates2006.html  Namaste Sir Bob. I must politely point out that- *the photograph on your   website* is  of the Shristava family compound near Jalapur, Madhya  Pradesh   is the  *VERY SAME* property the agents of the tax office of the   Indian  Goverment raided in 1987.  That facility was partially constructed with the money from   the- *Great Stuart Zimmerman $100mil. Whirled Peas Scam of 1986*. Holy Crap! Is that HUGE compound where Maharishi's family  lives?   I would love to see more close up pictures if there are any.  What   did you mean by Madhya Pradesh? What is that? ALways take everything that Steve says with a grain or three of   salt. Here's a series ofphotos of the "Shristava family compound." It doesn't look like  a   family compound to MYuntrained eye, but YMMV. BTW, Steve, what was the result of that   raid on the compound?How do you know? What newspaper articles (plural) can you  furnish   us on the subject?  http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/   

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmastan is so cool! ( Those Shristavas sure have a big house! )

2006-10-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
is 
  of the Shristava family compound near Jalapur, Madhya Pradesh 
  is 
the 
 *VERY SAME* property the agents of the tax office of the 
  Indian 
 Goverment raided in 1987.
 
 
 Hey, The TM-org link with the picture took the picture down from 
 their site.  Did anyone keep a copy of the Shristava family compound 
 that the TM-org built? 
 
 

You meanthe one with hundreds of large buildings?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmastan is so cool! ( Those Shristavas sure have a big house! )

2006-10-03 Thread coldbluiceman
 sparaig spare egg / Lawson English wrote:
 Jeffrey initiate22000@ wrote:
 
  HOw could Maharishi be run out of India? 
 Did he commit a crime? 
  snip

Namaste Lawson Ji,

The same tired *OLD ANOOP CHANDOLA STORY* you rely so very heavily 
upon. 
It truly is something that after 35 years.., all you have is just one 
conversation  with Anoop Chanodla that has shaped your entire 
*Belief System* which soley based on Anoop Chandola's spuroius claims. 
That is truly sad!

The Anoop Chandola Story has been dis-proven by court documents and 
yet you ignore them!

The spurious claims made by Anoop Chandola regarding-, Guru Dev's 
hand-picked successor are easily disproven Lawson.

Simply by a review of historical facts of two items.., thereby 
nullifing your arguement of the legitmacy of Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari 
Mahesh. 
As you entire *Blind Faith Belief System* is based upon the supposed 
relationship of- Shantinanda / Mahesh to Sri BrahmanandJi.

It is a fact that Swami Shantinanda made false claims in his book-
 'Shri Jyothirmath' for example..

Item #1). A fully executed will of Sri BrahmanandJi was deposited in 
Allhalabad on December 18, 1952. (1st paragraph page 2 of 'Sri 
Jyothirmath)

Item #2). He was installed in Varansi in the presence of hundreds of 
scholars from all over the country (2nd paragraph page 3).

With regards to Item #1 (above)a claim made by Swami Shantinand, it is 
a *LEGAL FACT* the will of Sri BrahmanandJi was not executed until 
shortly before His death in mid-May 1953. Which refutes the lies  
Shantinand made in his book. 
Here is the link to the Supreme Court of India with the case

www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html

With regards to Item #2 (above)a claim made Swami Shantinand, it has 
been confirmed by- Professor Mr. Dana Sawyer of Maine College of Arts 
that-, Swami Shantinanda was installed in Allhalabd by Brahmachari 
Mahesh and a few friends who thought the will could be credible.
These are eyewitness accounts and ashram records that dispell the lies 
of Swami Shantinand that Professor Dana Sawyer has reviewed.

Here is the link to Mr. Sawyer's article..
  ...'The Rivalry for Jyotir Math' by Dana Sawyer
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com/msg20687.html

Why not email Mr. Sawyer directly Lawson and ask exactly the 
historical circumstance that surrounded the installation of Swami 
Shanitnand at Jyothirmath on June 12, 1953?
Or *ARE YOU TO AFRAID TO FIND THE TRUTH*?

But yet you insist there are hindu temples in China, and that I 
provide you links URLs to Allhalabad District Court for a document 
search and other links!!

Why should I Lawson?.. when you will not accept the simple truth 
regarding your beloved Anoop Chandla Story?.. which has been 
completely disproven.

 Anoop Chondola went to the same university he did. 

Yea sure Anoop Chandola right Lawson.., keep hanging onto that story 
as that is all you have.

Pranams
Stephen Perino
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send me an email..I will send you the links..



 Their alumnae newspaper is always 
 running stories about MMY's successes with his schools.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmastan is so cool! ( Those Shristavas sure have a big house! )

2006-10-03 Thread coldbluiceman
 coldbluiceman wrote:

  sparaig spare egg / Lawson English wrote:
   Jeffrey initiate22000@ wrote:
  
   HOw could Maharishi be run out of India? 
  Did he commit a crime? 
   snip
 
 Namaste Lawson Ji,
 
 The same tired *OLD ANOOP CHANDOLA STORY* you 
 rely so very heavily 
 upon. 
 It truly is something that after 35 years..,
 all you have is just one 
 conversation  with Anoop Chanodla that has 
 shaped your entire 
 *Belief System* which soley based on 
 Anoop Chandola's spuroius claims. 
 That is truly sad!
 
 The Anoop Chandola Story has been dis-proven 
 by court documents and 
 yet you ignore them!
 
 The spurious claims made by Anoop Chandola 
 regarding-, Guru Dev's 
 hand-picked successor are easily disproven Lawson.
 
 Simply by a review of historical facts of two items.., 
 thereby nullifing your arguement of the 
 legitmacy of Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh. 
 As you entire *Blind Faith Belief System*
 is based upon the supposed 
 relationship of- Shantinanda / Mahesh 
 to Sri BrahmanandJi.
 
 It is a fact that Swami Shantinanda made 
 false claims in his book-
  'Shri Jyothirmath' for example..
 
 Item #1). A fully executed will of
 Sri BrahmanandJi was deposited in 
 Allhalabad on December 18, 1952. 
 (1st paragraph page 2 of 'Sri 
 Jyothirmath)
 
 Item #2). He was installed in Varansi in the
 presence of hundreds of 
 scholars from all over the country 
 (2nd paragraph page 3).
 
 With regards to Item #1 (above)a claim made
 by Swami Shantinand, it is 
 a *LEGAL FACT* the will of Sri BrahmanandJi 
 was not executed until 
 shortly before His death in mid-May 1953. 
 Which refutes the lies  
 Shantinand made in his book. 
 Here is the link to the Supreme Court of India
 with the case
 www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html
 
 With regards to Item #2 (above)a claim made 
 Swami Shantinand, it has  been confirmed by- 
 Professor Mr. Dana Sawyer of Maine College of Arts 
 that-, Swami Shantinanda was installed in 
 Allhalabd by Brahmachari Mahesh and a few friends
 who thought the will could be credible.
 These are eyewitness accounts and ashram records
 that dispell the lies 
 of Swami Shantinand that
 Professor Dana Sawyer has reviewed.
 
 Here is the link to Mr. Sawyer's article..
   ...'The Rivalry for Jyotir Math' by Dana Sawyer
 http://www.mail-
archive.com/fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com/msg20687.html
 
 Why not email Mr. Sawyer directly Lawson 
 and ask exactly the 
 historical circumstance that surrounded the 
 installation of Swami Shanitnand at Jyothirmath

(Should read Swami Shantinand of Jyothirmath.., not at).

  on June 12, 1953?
 Or *ARE YOU TO AFRAID TO FIND THE TRUTH*?
 
 But yet you insist there are hindu temples in China, 
 and that I 
 provide you links URLs to Allhalabad District Court
 for a document 
 search and other links!!
 
 Why should I Lawson?.. when you 
 will not accept the simple truth 
 regarding your beloved Anoop Chandola Story?.. 
 which has been completely disproven.
 
  Anoop Chondola went to the same university he did. 
 
 Yea sure Anoop Chandola right Lawson..,
 keep hanging onto that story 
 as that is all you have.
 
 Pranams
 Stephen Perino
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Send me an email..I will send you the links..
 
 
 
  Their alumnae newspaper is always 
  running stories about MMY's successes with his schools.
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmastan is so cool! ( Those Shristavas sure have a big house! )

2006-10-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  sparaig spare egg / Lawson English wrote:
  Jeffrey initiate22000@ wrote:
  
   HOw could Maharishi be run out of India? 
  Did he commit a crime? 
   snip
 
 Namaste Lawson Ji,
 
 The same tired *OLD ANOOP CHANDOLA STORY* you rely so very heavily 
 upon. 
 It truly is something that after 35 years.., all you have is just one 
 conversation  with Anoop Chanodla that has shaped your entire 
 *Belief System* which soley based on Anoop Chandola's spuroius claims. 
 That is truly sad!
 
 The Anoop Chandola Story has been dis-proven by court documents and 
 yet you ignore them!
 
 The spurious claims made by Anoop Chandola regarding-, Guru Dev's 
 hand-picked successor are easily disproven Lawson.
 
 Simply by a review of historical facts of two items.., thereby 
 nullifing your arguement of the legitmacy of Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari 
 Mahesh. 
 As you entire *Blind Faith Belief System* is based upon the supposed 
 relationship of- Shantinanda / Mahesh to Sri BrahmanandJi.
 
 It is a fact that Swami Shantinanda made false claims in his book-
  'Shri Jyothirmath' for example..
 
 Item #1). A fully executed will of Sri BrahmanandJi was deposited in 
 Allhalabad on December 18, 1952. (1st paragraph page 2 of 'Sri 
 Jyothirmath)

Could be a misprint, obviously. The court found that the will was valid 
regardless of when 
it was executed. It also found that Shantannada wasn't competent in Sanskrit, 
but that 
seems odd. What criteria does a secular court use to determine such things? The 
REAL 
question is: did Gurudev have a right to name someone as his sucessor even if 
he wasn't a 
Sanskrit scholar? You and the scholastic community that wanted the other guy 
say no, 
apparently. I'm minded of the cook who became the Buddhist patriarch over the 
objections 
of everyone else. Just how dusty is your mirror, dude?

http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html

The District Court found that Brahmanand executed the   will while he was
in sound disposing state of  mind,  that respondent Nc.
 I being one of the nominees under the  will having the prior claim 
would have 
been entitled to succeed as the Head of the Math but for the fact that lie was
 not learned in Sanskrit and the Vedas which wasa necessary 
qualification for 
holding the headship of the Math.It further  found  that the 
allegations with respect 
to   the breach of trust by respondent No. 1 had not been proved, that 
Krishnabodhashram was validly installed as   the Shankaracharya
of the   Math but that the suit  as it   was brought for
 the vindication of  the right   of Krishnabodhashram to the 
headship of the 
Math, wasnot maintainable under s. 92 of the Civil Procedure Code. The 
High Court 
dismissed the appeal on the basis that   the suit was incompetent under s. 92 
of the 
Civil Procedure Code. 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmastan is so cool! ( Those Shristavas sure have a big house! )

2006-10-03 Thread coldbluiceman
 sparaig spare egg/ Lawson English wrote:
  coldbluiceman sperino wrote:
   sparaig spare egg / Lawson English wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:
snip
  Namaste Lawson Ji,
  The same tired *OLD ANOOP CHANDOLA STORY* 
  you rely so very heavily 
  upon. 
  It truly is something that after 35 years..,
   all you have is just one 
  conversation  with Anoop Chanodla that 
  has shaped your entire 
  *Belief System* which soley based on 
  Anoop Chandola's spuroius claims. 
  That is truly sad!
  
  The Anoop Chandola Story has been 
  dis-proven by court documents and 
  yet you ignore them!
  
  The spurious claims made by 
  Anoop Chandola regarding-, Guru Dev's 
  hand-picked successor are 
  easily disproven Lawson.
  
  Simply by a review of historical facts of 
  two items.., thereby 
  nullifing your arguement of the legitmacy 
  of Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh. 
  As you entire *Blind Faith Belief System*
  is based upon the supposed 
  relationship of- Shantinanda / Mahesh 
  to Sri BrahmanandJi.
  It is a fact that Swami Shantinanda made 
  false claims in his book-
   'Shri Jyothirmath' for example..
  Item #1). A fully executed will of 
  Sri BrahmanandJi was deposited in 
  Allhalabad on December 18, 1952. 
  (1st paragraph page 2 of 'Sri Jyothirmath)
 
 Could be a misprint, obviously. 

Namaste Sir Lawson Ji,
I must politely take exception with your assessment regarding the 
remote possibilty that the contents of Swami Shantinand's book- 'Sri 
Jyothirmath' are simply just mis-prints.
So you are saying just ..
Item #1). A fully executed will of Sri BrahmanandJi was deposited in
Allhalabad on December 18, 1952. (1st paragraph page 2 of 'Sri
Jyothirmath)

In regards to this statement regarding(paraphasing)-, Shantinand 
being completely qualified the hold the seat as he was completely 
literate in Sanskrit and the Vedas.(page 2 paragraph 2)

And, you did not address
Item #2). He was installed in Varansi in the presence of hundreds of
scholars from all over the country (2nd paragraph page 3).

 With regards to Item #2 (above)a claim made Swami Shantinand, it has
been confirmed by- Professor Mr. Dana Sawyer of Maine College of Arts
that-, Swami Shantinanda was installed in Allhalabd by Brahmachari
Mahesh and a few friends who thought the will could be credible.
These are eyewitness accounts and ashram records that dispell the 
lies of Swami Shantinand that Professor Dana Sawyer has reviewed

 The court found that the will was valid
 regardless of when 
 it was executed. 

Lawson the validity of the will was not the issue, never was.

The issue was from the beginning mal-adminstration of the ashram 
trust.
From the  court case, page 796.. 

 ..The High Court was of the view that since the plaintiffs did not 
plead facts and particulars as regards the defect in the machinery 
for administration which had crept in under custom or rules which 
required rectification, the prayer for direction was a mere pretense 
to bring the suit under S. 92. A direction cannot be given by the 
Court unless it is shown that it is necessary for the proper 
administration of the trust...
http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html

 ..The case was appealed to the High court at Allahabad in 1962 
(Civil Appeal No. 385), and received the same judgement, that 
is the High Court found that there was no evidence to substantiate 
the allegations of breach of trust against the first respondent.  No 
reasons were given in the plaint for asking the directions of the 
court for the administration of the trust.  (court case, p.791) 
http://www.mail-
archive.com/fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com/msg20687.html

 It also found that Shantannada wasn't
 competent in Sanskrit, but that 
 seems odd. 

Why does that seem odd? 
Did Anoop Chandola tell you Shantinand could read Sanskrit?
Because, Shantinand claimed in 'Sri Jyothirmath', he could.

 What criteria does a secular court 
 use to determine such things? 

Well just maybe, the legal counsel for the plaintiffs handed Swami 
Shantinand a text written in Sanskrit, and in court Shantinand could 
not read from it.
Much the same if any court in the USA someone handed you a text in 
Sanskrit and asked you to read from it, and you could not. We could 
then determine you could not read sanskrit.

 The REAL 
 question is: did Gurudev have a right 
 to name someone as his sucessor even if 
 he wasn't a 
 Sanskrit scholar? 

(1) Questions regarding the authenicity of the will arose, for 
instance, why hadn't Brahmananda published the will while he was 
still alive?  
(2) Why hadn't he made clear then who he wanted to follow him? 
http://www.mail-
archive.com/fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com/msg20687.html

 You and the scholastic community that
 wanted the other guy say no, 
 apparently. 

No Lawson I could care less. I was pointing out the pathos of your 
fetish with- Anoop Chandola Story and there is no other guy.

 I'm minded of the cook who became the 
 Buddhist patriarch over the 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmastan is so cool! ( Those Shristavas sure have a big house! )

2006-10-03 Thread sparaig

Y'know, maybe I can't read the stilted language of the Indian Courts properly, 
or maybe I 
simply can't understand your points (or both), but it seems to ME that you're 
arguing 
something that isn't supported by what the court actually SAID as I quoted at 
the bottom 
of this article...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  sparaig spare egg/ Lawson English wrote:
   coldbluiceman sperino wrote:
sparaig spare egg / Lawson English wrote:
 Jeffrey wrote:
 snip
   Namaste Lawson Ji,
   The same tired *OLD ANOOP CHANDOLA STORY* 
   you rely so very heavily 
   upon. 
   It truly is something that after 35 years..,
all you have is just one 
   conversation  with Anoop Chanodla that 
   has shaped your entire 
   *Belief System* which soley based on 
   Anoop Chandola's spuroius claims. 
   That is truly sad!
   
   The Anoop Chandola Story has been 
   dis-proven by court documents and 
   yet you ignore them!
   
   The spurious claims made by 
   Anoop Chandola regarding-, Guru Dev's 
   hand-picked successor are 
   easily disproven Lawson.
   
   Simply by a review of historical facts of 
   two items.., thereby 
   nullifing your arguement of the legitmacy 
   of Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh. 
   As you entire *Blind Faith Belief System*
   is based upon the supposed 
   relationship of- Shantinanda / Mahesh 
   to Sri BrahmanandJi.
   It is a fact that Swami Shantinanda made 
   false claims in his book-
'Shri Jyothirmath' for example..
   Item #1). A fully executed will of 
   Sri BrahmanandJi was deposited in 
   Allhalabad on December 18, 1952. 
   (1st paragraph page 2 of 'Sri Jyothirmath)
  
  Could be a misprint, obviously. 
 
 Namaste Sir Lawson Ji,
 I must politely take exception with your assessment regarding the 
 remote possibilty that the contents of Swami Shantinand's book- 'Sri 
 Jyothirmath' are simply just mis-prints.
 So you are saying just ..
 Item #1). A fully executed will of Sri BrahmanandJi was deposited in
 Allhalabad on December 18, 1952. (1st paragraph page 2 of 'Sri
 Jyothirmath)
 
 In regards to this statement regarding(paraphasing)-, Shantinand 
 being completely qualified the hold the seat as he was completely 
 literate in Sanskrit and the Vedas.(page 2 paragraph 2)
 
 And, you did not address
 Item #2). He was installed in Varansi in the presence of hundreds of
 scholars from all over the country (2nd paragraph page 3).
 
  With regards to Item #2 (above)a claim made Swami Shantinand, it has
 been confirmed by- Professor Mr. Dana Sawyer of Maine College of Arts
 that-, Swami Shantinanda was installed in Allhalabd by Brahmachari
 Mahesh and a few friends who thought the will could be credible.
 These are eyewitness accounts and ashram records that dispell the 
 lies of Swami Shantinand that Professor Dana Sawyer has reviewed
 
  The court found that the will was valid
  regardless of when 
  it was executed. 
 
 Lawson the validity of the will was not the issue, never was.
 
 The issue was from the beginning mal-adminstration of the ashram 
 trust.
 From the  court case, page 796.. 
 
  ..The High Court was of the view that since the plaintiffs did not 
 plead facts and particulars as regards the defect in the machinery 
 for administration which had crept in under custom or rules which 
 required rectification, the prayer for direction was a mere pretense 
 to bring the suit under S. 92. A direction cannot be given by the 
 Court unless it is shown that it is necessary for the proper 
 administration of the trust...
 http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html
 
  ..The case was appealed to the High court at Allahabad in 1962 
 (Civil Appeal No. 385), and received the same judgement, that 
 is the High Court found that there was no evidence to substantiate 
 the allegations of breach of trust against the first respondent.  No 
 reasons were given in the plaint for asking the directions of the 
 court for the administration of the trust.  (court case, p.791) 
 http://www.mail-
 archive.com/fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com/msg20687.html
 
  It also found that Shantannada wasn't
  competent in Sanskrit, but that 
  seems odd. 
 
 Why does that seem odd? 
 Did Anoop Chandola tell you Shantinand could read Sanskrit?
 Because, Shantinand claimed in 'Sri Jyothirmath', he could.
 
  What criteria does a secular court 
  use to determine such things? 
 
 Well just maybe, the legal counsel for the plaintiffs handed Swami 
 Shantinand a text written in Sanskrit, and in court Shantinand could 
 not read from it.
 Much the same if any court in the USA someone handed you a text in 
 Sanskrit and asked you to read from it, and you could not. We could 
 then determine you could not read sanskrit.
 
  The REAL 
  question is: did Gurudev have a right 
  to name someone as his sucessor even if 
  he wasn't a 
  Sanskrit scholar? 
 
 (1) Questions regarding the authenicity of the will arose, for 
 instance, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmastan is so cool! ( Those Shristavas sure have a big house! )

2006-10-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for the pictures! They look fascinating. It isnt a home for 
 Maharishi's family, although I wouldnt doubt that they could be 
 living there. It looks like a big spiritual center. What are all 
 those differnt building for? it looks huge!! Is there a map to 
 explain what each building is? I had no idea the movement had 
 something like that. Does Maharishi go there ever? It looks amazing. 

You know as much as I do.

This rather huge 360 picture says it all, as far as how big the place is:

http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/pano1.jpg






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2006-10-02 Thread sparaig
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 Thanks for the pictures! 

The place is WAAAY bigger than I realized:

http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/pano2.jpg






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmastan is so cool! ( Those Shristavas sure have a big house! )

2006-10-02 Thread coldbluiceman
 sparaig spare egg wrote:
  Jeffrey wrote:
  Thanks for the pictures! 
  They look fascinating. 
  snip
  Does Maharishi go there ever? 

Not since 1989 when he was run out of India for the final time by  
P.M. Rajiv Gandhi, and the legimate Shankaracharyas of Puri  
Dwarka/Jyosimutt.

  It looks amazing. 
 
 You know as much as I do.

Which is not much in fact. Just mere speculation.

 
 This rather huge 360 picture says it all, as far as how big the 
place is:
 
 http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/pano1.jpg







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmastan is so cool! ( Those Shristavas sure have a big house! )

2006-10-02 Thread Jeffrey
HOw could Maharishi be run out of India? Did he commit a crime? It 
looks like he is doing alot of good there. Besides the brahmastan 
compound, I also saw pictures of his Vedic School. Very impressive 
looking
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  sparaig spare egg wrote:
   Jeffrey wrote:
   Thanks for the pictures! 
   They look fascinating. 
   snip
   Does Maharishi go there ever? 
 
 Not since 1989 when he was run out of India for the final time by  
 P.M. Rajiv Gandhi, and the legimate Shankaracharyas of Puri  
 Dwarka/Jyosimutt.
 
   It looks amazing. 
  
  You know as much as I do.
 
 Which is not much in fact. Just mere speculation.
 
  
  This rather huge 360 picture says it all, as far as how big the 
 place is:
  
  http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/pano1.jpg
 








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmastan is so cool! ( Those Shristavas sure have a big house! )

2006-10-02 Thread Peter
I heard it had something to do with, what else, money.

--- Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 HOw could Maharishi be run out of India? Did he
 commit a crime? It 
 looks like he is doing alot of good there. Besides
 the brahmastan 
 compound, I also saw pictures of his Vedic School.
 Very impressive 
 looking
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman
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   sparaig spare egg wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:
Thanks for the pictures! 
They look fascinating. 
snip
Does Maharishi go there ever? 
  
  Not since 1989 when he was run out of India for
 the final time by  
  P.M. Rajiv Gandhi, and the legimate
 Shankaracharyas of Puri  
  Dwarka/Jyosimutt.
  
It looks amazing. 
   
   You know as much as I do.
  
  Which is not much in fact. Just mere speculation.
  
   
   This rather huge 360 picture says it all, as far
 as how big the 
  place is:
   
   http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/pano1.jpg
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmastan is so cool! ( Those Shristavas sure have a big house! )

2006-10-02 Thread coldbluiceman
 Jeffrey wrote:

 HOw could Maharishi be run out of India? 

 Did he commit a crime?

 ..The Swiss government, according to some reports, had made things 
difficult for him, allegedly for not paying taxes in full and also 
for transferring large sums of his money in the accounts there to 
other countries. Valuable foreign exchange to the extent of Rs 15 
crores [$1.3 million US] is estimated to be coming into India alone 
each year for the upkeep of his many organizations

[A description of the luxurious compound and its guards. Further 
detail about the government raids.]

Raids were simultaneously conducted at Jabalpur, where the 
Maharishi's associates and various organisations own a great deal of 
property. This is not the first time that the revenue department 
has launched an offensive against TM adherents Late last year 
[1987], prosecution for tax evasion... was launched against the 
president of one of the trusts, a doctor by training, two 
accountants and the Maharishi's nephews, Anand and Ajay 
Srivastava

Among the yogi's relatives, his brother J P Srivastava's sons, Anand 
and Ajay Prakash, seem to be in charge of accounts and 
administration. The [Maharishi's] brother, reportedly, is not given 
much importance in the family hierarchy, for reasons that date back 
to the illustrious younger sibling's youth. Mahesh Yogi, apparently, 
had early in life forsaken hearth and home after being allegedly ill-
treated by his brother
http://onwww.net/trancenet.org/news/molest.shtml



 It 
 looks like he is doing alot of good there.

 ..He said all of this was being
done to delude Westerners. Mahesh needs a Shankaracharya to continue
spreading his net of deception. He said, as Shankaracharya, it is my
clear and absolute duty to uphold the true teaching of Shree 
Shankara...
http://minet.org/TM-EX/Winter-92


 Besides the brahmastan 
 compound, I also saw pictures of his Vedic School.

 Very impressive 
 looking

Ashes and Powers: Myth, Rite and Miracle in an Indian God-Man's Cult 
D. A. Swallow
Modern Asian Studies, Vol. 16, No. 1 (1982), pp. 123-158
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0026-749X(1982)16%3A1%3C123%
3AAAPMRA%3E2.0.CO%3B2-7







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2006-10-02 Thread sparaig
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 I heard it had something to do with, what else, money.

I've heard lots of things. Does anyone actually have any facts? URLs to 
newspaper articles 
(plural) would be nice, even. URLs to court documents would be nice also. 
Claims to have 
seen them isn't the same as proof.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmastan is so cool! ( Those Shristavas sure have a big house! )

2006-10-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 HOw could Maharishi be run out of India? Did he commit a crime? It 
 looks like he is doing alot of good there. Besides the brahmastan 
 compound, I also saw pictures of his Vedic School. Very impressive 
 looking

Anoop Chondola went to the same university he did. Their alumnae newspaper is 
always 
running stories about MMY's successes with his schools.





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