[FairfieldLife] Re: Civil Suit Goes To Court: A Scorned Lover, Glue And A Naked Man
Hi akasha, You may be right about jyotish research methods. I have a harder time thinking of examples of what you describe than for western astrology. Some members of ACVA (American Council of Vedic Astrologers) probably do. I haven't kept up on the astrology world since Sailor Bob's visit last year. I've noticed that many astrologers (of western and/or jyotish) are more like mystics, and if they even attempt to approach astrology like you describe, do that mystically too. To me there's left-brain astrology and right-brain astrology and both approaches have their good and bad astrologers, and of course some can synthesize the two approaches. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: vashtirama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just as I read this, my 6-year old came in and said, Mommy, look: I glued my hands together. Then he stood there transfixed by them for almost 10 minutes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It a Glue Day -- must be a jyotish thing. Thats funny. And cute. And interesting -- my comment was part joking, part reflecting on experience when I said, it must be a jyotish thing. Its imbibed in common sayings, it happens in threes or when it rains it pours -- which for me indicate that at times, the same not so frquent phenomenon occurs repeatedly in short bursts -- then not again for some time. Some can be attrributed to random chance. But it happens enough that it seems beyond random. Like certain times are just ripe for certain things to happen. For example, a while back, everything just broke. My car broke down, my pc broke down, my tv broke, the washer broke. Like all within 3 days. Each event in themselves is quite infrequent. All happening to gether has a quite rare probability. I think jyotish could be both tested and enhanced greatly (assuming there is some there, there which I know many on the list reject) by working backwards: using such coincident points to identify planetery patterns, look at those same patterns historically and see if similar grouped coincidences occurred, weed out extraneous planetary factors, then look for such councidences at future times of such planetery patterns (and the ABSENCE of their occurence in the absence of the planetary pattern -- a very key point). Then look to jyotish texts and traditions to see if there is a classic explanation for such. Further refine the model, re-backcast, and set up future predictions. If the pattern is a successful predictor, log it. Add it to a protfolio of useful jyotish tools. Use it to calibrate what classic texts say -- assumming there is a correspondence -- that is, used the observed phenomenon, and successful predictor pattern, to be a way of taking ancient, sometimes a bit symbolic text, and adapting it to modern life and phenomenon. A weakness of current jyotish practice, it seems to me, is that there is not much such historical calibration. I have had pundits say this is what Parashara said, this is what will occur. But its to general to be useful. Just looking to simple jyotish patterns, looking at social events, not individuals, some interesting things pop out. By themselves, intriguing, but they dont prove anything by themselves. They need the backcasting and prediction cycles of refinement I spoke of above. Jupiter completes a cycle every 12 years. Saturn every 29.7 or so years, and Saturn and Jupiter are conjunct (together) every 20 years, and conjunct in same sign every 60 or so years (every two cycles of Saturn). Some pretty coincident stuff occurs when you look at these cycles. I used to play with this and observed things like the Microsoft anti-trust case was at its peak very close to 60 years from when the Rockerfeller Standard Oil Trust was broken up. And how many times has the US been attacked in its history. Not many. Pearl Harbor, Dec 7, 1941 and 9/11, Sept 11, 2001, about 60 years -- two full cycle of Saturn -- with Saturn and Jupiter conjunct in the same sign. Is there something in the US chart that would indicate this is an invastion time? What happened in 1881, 1821 and 1761 or there abouts (the planets are conjunct over a year or two)? 2001 9/11 1941 Pearl Harbor 1881 July 20 1881 - Indian Wars: Sioux chief Sitting Bull leads the last of his fugitive people in surrender to United States troops September 19 1881- James Abram Garfield, President of the United States dies due to an infected wound caused by an assassin's bullet and is succeeded by Vice President Chester Alan Arthur. 1880 January 9 1880- The Great Gale of 1880 strikes areas in Oregon and Washington. October 1880- terrible winter storm in North America, the Blizzard of 1880. 1822 September 7 - Brazil declares its independence from Portugal (see Brazilian independence) 1821 June 24 - Simón Bolívar wins the Battle of Carabobo,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Civil Suit Goes To Court: A Scorned Lover, Glue And A Naked Man
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vashtirama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just as I read this, my 6-year old came in and said, Mommy, look: I glued my hands together. Then he stood there transfixed by them for almost 10 minutes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It a Glue Day -- must be a jyotish thing. Thats funny. And cute. And interesting -- my comment was part joking, part reflecting on experience when I said, it must be a jyotish thing. Its imbibed in common sayings, it happens in threes or when it rains it pours -- which for me indicate that at times, the same not so frquent phenomenon occurs repeatedly in short bursts -- then not again for some time. Some can be attrributed to random chance. But it happens enough that it seems beyond random. Like certain times are just ripe for certain things to happen. For example, a while back, everything just broke. My car broke down, my pc broke down, my tv broke, the washer broke. Like all within 3 days. Each event in themselves is quite infrequent. All happening to gether has a quite rare probability. I think jyotish could be both tested and enhanced greatly (assuming there is some there, there which I know many on the list reject) by working backwards: using such coincident points to identify planetery patterns, look at those same patterns historically and see if similar grouped coincidences occurred, weed out extraneous planetary factors, then look for such councidences at future times of such planetery patterns (and the ABSENCE of their occurence in the absence of the planetary pattern -- a very key point). Then look to jyotish texts and traditions to see if there is a classic explanation for such. Further refine the model, re-backcast, and set up future predictions. If the pattern is a successful predictor, log it. Add it to a protfolio of useful jyotish tools. Use it to calibrate what classic texts say -- assumming there is a correspondence -- that is, used the observed phenomenon, and successful predictor pattern, to be a way of taking ancient, sometimes a bit symbolic text, and adapting it to modern life and phenomenon. A weakness of current jyotish practice, it seems to me, is that there is not much such historical calibration. I have had pundits say this is what Parashara said, this is what will occur. But its to general to be useful. Just looking to simple jyotish patterns, looking at social events, not individuals, some interesting things pop out. By themselves, intriguing, but they dont prove anything by themselves. They need the backcasting and prediction cycles of refinement I spoke of above. Jupiter completes a cycle every 12 years. Saturn every 29.7 or so years, and Saturn and Jupiter are conjunct (together) every 20 years, and conjunct in same sign every 60 or so years (every two cycles of Saturn). Some pretty coincident stuff occurs when you look at these cycles. I used to play with this and observed things like the Microsoft anti-trust case was at its peak very close to 59 years from when the Rockerfeller Standard Oil Trust was broken up. And how many times has the US been attacked in its history. Not many. Pearl Harbor, Dec 7, 1941 and 9/11, Sept 11, 2001, about 60 years -- two full cycle of Saturn -- with Saturn and Jupiter conjunct in the same sign. Is there something in the US chart that would indicate this is an invastion time? What happened in 1881, 1821 and 1761 or there abouts (the planets are conjunct over a year or two)? 2001.75 9/11 1941.75 Pearl Harbor 1881July 20 1881 - Indian Wars: Sioux chief Sitting Bull leads the last of his fugitive people in surrender to United States troops at Fort Buford in Montana. September 19 1881- James Abram Garfield, President of the United States dies due to an infected wound caused by an assassin's bullet and is succeeded by Vice President Chester Alan Arthur. 1880 January 9 1880- The Great Gale of 1880 strikes areas in Oregon and Washington. October 1880- terrible winter storm in North America, the Blizzard of 1880. 1822September 7 - Brazil declares its independence from Portugal (see Brazilian independence) 1821June 24 - Simón Bolívar wins the Battle of Carabobo, ensuring Venezuela's independency from Spain. (See Venezuela's independence.) July 10 - The United States takes possession of its newly-bought territory of Florida from Spain. July 28 - Peru declares independence from Spain. (See Peru's Independence from Spain). September 15 - Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua and Costa Rica gain independence from Spain. (See History of Central America) September 27 - Mexico gains its independence from Spain. (See Mexican War of Independence.) November 16 - American Old West: Santa Fe Trail use 1820March 3 6 - Slavery in the United States: The Missouri Compromise becomes law. 1763February 10 - French and Indian
[FairfieldLife] Re: Civil Suit Goes To Court: A Scorned Lover, Glue And A Naked Man
vashtirama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just as I read this, my 6-year old came in and said, Mommy, look: I glued my hands together. Then he stood there transfixed by them for almost 10 minutes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It a Glue Day -- must be a jyotish thing. Thats funny. And cute. And interesting -- my comment was part joking, part reflecting on experience when I said, it must be a jyotish thing. Its imbibed in common sayings, it happens in threes or when it rains it pours -- which for me indicate that at times, the same not so frquent phenomenon occurs repeatedly in short bursts -- then not again for some time. Some can be attrributed to random chance. But it happens enough that it seems beyond random. Like certain times are just ripe for certain things to happen. For example, a while back, everything just broke. My car broke down, my pc broke down, my tv broke, the washer broke. Like all within 3 days. Each event in themselves is quite infrequent. All happening to gether has a quite rare probability. I think jyotish could be both tested and enhanced greatly (assuming there is some there, there which I know many on the list reject) by working backwards: using such coincident points to identify planetery patterns, look at those same patterns historically and see if similar grouped coincidences occurred, weed out extraneous planetary factors, then look for such councidences at future times of such planetery patterns (and the ABSENCE of their occurence in the absence of the planetary pattern -- a very key point). Then look to jyotish texts and traditions to see if there is a classic explanation for such. Further refine the model, re-backcast, and set up future predictions. If the pattern is a successful predictor, log it. Add it to a protfolio of useful jyotish tools. Use it to calibrate what classic texts say -- assumming there is a correspondence -- that is, used the observed phenomenon, and successful predictor pattern, to be a way of taking ancient, sometimes a bit symbolic text, and adapting it to modern life and phenomenon. A weakness of current jyotish practice, it seems to me, is that there is not much such historical calibration. I have had pundits say this is what Parashara said, this is what will occur. But its to general to be useful. Just looking to simple jyotish patterns, looking at social events, not individuals, some interesting things pop out. By themselves, intriguing, but they dont prove anything by themselves. They need the backcasting and prediction cycles of refinement I spoke of above. Jupiter completes a cycle every 12 years. Saturn every 29.7 or so years, and Saturn and Jupiter are conjunct (together) every 20 years, and conjunct in same sign every 60 or so years (every two cycles of Saturn). Some pretty coincident stuff occurs when you look at these cycles. I used to play with this and observed things like the Microsoft anti-trust case was at its peak very close to 60 years from when the Rockerfeller Standard Oil Trust was broken up. And how many times has the US been attacked in its history. Not many. Pearl Harbor, Dec 7, 1941 and 9/11, Sept 11, 2001, about 60 years -- two full cycle of Saturn -- with Saturn and Jupiter conjunct in the same sign. Is there something in the US chart that would indicate this is an invastion time? What happened in 1881, 1821 and 1761 or there abouts (the planets are conjunct over a year or two)? 2001 9/11 1941 Pearl Harbor 1881 July 20 1881 - Indian Wars: Sioux chief Sitting Bull leads the last of his fugitive people in surrender to United States troops September 19 1881- James Abram Garfield, President of the United States dies due to an infected wound caused by an assassin's bullet and is succeeded by Vice President Chester Alan Arthur. 1880 January 9 1880- The Great Gale of 1880 strikes areas in Oregon and Washington. October 1880- terrible winter storm in North America, the Blizzard of 1880. 1822 September 7 - Brazil declares its independence from Portugal (see Brazilian independence) 1821 June 24 - Simón Bolívar wins the Battle of Carabobo, ensuring Venezuela's independency from Spain. (See Venezuela's independence.) July 10 - The United States takes possession of its newly-bought territory of Florida from Spain. July 28 - Peru declares independence from Spain. (See Peru's Independence from Spain). September 15 - Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua and Costa Rica gain independence from Spain. (See History of Central America) September 27 - Mexico gains its independence from Spain. (See Mexican War of Independence.) 1820 March 3 6 - Slavery in the United States: The Missouri Compromise becomes law. 1763 February 10 - French and Indian War: The 1763 Treaty of Paris ends the war and France cedes Canada to Great Britain. May 7 - Chief Pontiac begins the Conspiracy of Pontiac by attacking British forces at Fort Detroit. 1762 August 10 - British forces seize
