[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool loneliness: Six Kinds of Loneliness By Ani Pema Choedroen

2012-08-01 Thread merudanda
sigh elaborate--sigh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2j578jTBCY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2j578jTBCY
  the mysteriously  turquoiseb flash-defunct link to Amelie (2001) -
You're so cool refer to the often  here at FFL admired  and quoted of  
Audrey Tautou's masterly script and performance and a  wordplay with 
coolness and remembering-associating  turquoiseb little Maya's
presence [:D]  and of course counterbalance  the seriousness of the
cool loneliness equating enlightenment Shenpa-ness
... and more..
 
[http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a32QmJypT-Q/TAEh_MvUf4I/A04/pQzRDz383\
IA/s1600/amelie.jpg]
sigh
good night...and
When you wake up in the morning..stay relaxed and touch the limitless
space of the human heart...and ...experiment with these both images..
[:D]
looking forward (m)any of your insight... to forget and loose into
ultimate space without a reference point...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote:


 For all our beloved cool FFL er and/or all who search for coolness
[:D]
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjesjbEQpqM
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjesjbEQpqM
 Six Kinds of Loneliness
 By Pema Choedroen
snip



[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool loneliness: Six Kinds of Loneliness By Ani Pema Choedroen

2012-08-01 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote:

 sigh elaborate--sigh
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2j578jTBCY
 the mysteriously  turquoiseb flash-defunct link to Amelie (2001) -
 You're so cool refer to the often here at FFL admired and quoted 
 of Audrey Tautou's masterly script and performance...

While I cannot fault Audrey's performance, I have to 
stand up for the scriptwriter, and point out that she 
had no part in the the crafting of it. As lovely and 
as charming as she is, Audrey is well known as a bit 
of stick-up-her-butt actress, one who Doth Not 
Improvise Well. 

One of the best scenes in Amelie was, in fact, one in
which Audrey was searching for the guy who left the 
childhood treasure box she found, and discovered that
one of her candidates in the search was a lesbian,
who found her sort of...attractive. In the course of
shooting different takes of this scene, in one of them
Audrey deviated from the script and cracked up. That
is the take that the real author of the script, Jean-
Pierre Jeunet, chose to put in the movie. 

 ...and a  wordplay with 
 coolness and remembering-associating  turquoiseb little Maya's
 presence [:D] and of course counterbalance the seriousness of 
 the cool loneliness equating enlightenment Shenpa-ness
 ... and more..
  
 [http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a32QmJypT-Q/TAEh_MvUf4I/A04/pQzRDz383IA/s1600/amelie.jpg]
 sigh
 good night...and
 When you wake up in the morning..stay relaxed and touch the 
 limitless space of the human heart...and ...experiment with 
 these both images..
 [:D]
 looking forward (m)any of your insight... to forget and loose into
 ultimate space without a reference point...

Without a reference point and having an ever-changing
reference point are effectively the same thing, n'est-
ce-pas?  :-)

Amélie: [whispering in theater] I like to look for things 
no one else catches. I hate the way drivers never look at 
the road in old American movies. 
...
Narrator: Amelie has one friend, Blubber. Alas the home 
environment has made Blubber suicidal.
[Pet fish leaps out of fish bowl in an attempt at suicide] 
...
Narrator: With a prompter in every cellar window whispering 
comebacks, shy people would have the last laugh. 
...
[Amélie hands a begger some money]
Beggar: Sorry madam, I don't work on Sundays. 
...
Hipolito (The Writer): We pass the time of day to forget 
how time passes. 
...
Seller in the porno shop: These are hard times for dreamers. 
...
Narrator: Nino is late. Amelie can only see two explanations. 
1 - he didn't get the photo. 2 - before he could assemble it, 
a gang of bank robbers took him hostage. The cops gave chase. 
They got away...but he caused a crash. When he came to, he'd 
lost his memory. An ex-con picked him up, mistook him for a 
fugitive, and shipped him to Istanbul. There he met some 
Afghan raiders who took him to steal some Russian warheads. 
But their truck hit a mine in Tajikistan. He survived, took 
to the hills, and became a Mujaheddin. Amelie refuses to get 
upset for a guy who'll eat borscht all his life in a hat 
like a tea cozy. 
...
Narrator: Philoméne likes the sound of the cat's bowl on the 
tiles. The cat likes overhearing children's stories. 
...
Narrator: Amelie has a strange feeling of absolute harmony. 
It's a perfect moment. A soft light, a scent in the air, the 
quiet murmur of the city. A surge of love, an urge to help 
mankind overcomes her. 
...
Amélie: [at the movies] I like to turn around in the dark 
to see the faces of the people around me.

I almost always get all teary-eyed when I hear that last line,
and did so even as I pasted it in. It is one of my favorite
lines in all of film history. In it, Jeunet reveals to us
his heart, and the reason why he makes movies. He likes
to go to his own movies and turn around and watch the 
faces of the audiences seeing them. 

I cannot conceive of a higher or more noble reason to
make movies.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool loneliness: Six Kinds of Loneliness By Ani Pema Choedroen

2012-08-01 Thread stevelf
 Wow, Merudananda, you Wow-ed me and I thank you for that...!
  Reminds me of an article I read once on The wisdom of getting lost, or 
something like that...
  This subject is very close to home for me, especially today... (another 
story, alas...).

  But I wanted to share with you my creation on this theme-- which was a 
5-year, unplanned, foreign (mostly Pacific Rim...), off-road, gut, heart, 
mountain bike ramble that I solo-ed in the mid-90's... No plans, no time 
constraints-- an open heart-felt appreciation of what came my way-- not trying 
specifically to get anywhere, no normal goals,  lightweight to the extreme, 
an innocent merge with the moments, an equal acceptance of the trials and 
tribulations of the pathless path, an acceptance and reverence of being 
guided by intuition and my heart as opposed to societal norms, like that
  Again, thank you for your meaningful post-- 
  Steve 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote:

 
 For all our beloved cool FFL er and/or all who search for coolness [:D]
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjesjbEQpqM
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjesjbEQpqM
 Six Kinds of Loneliness
 By Pema Choedroen
 
 To be without a reference point is the ultimate loneliness. It is also
 called enlightenment.
 
 
 In the middle way, there is no reference point. The mind with no
 reference point does not resolve itself, does not fixate or grasp. How
 could we possibly have no reference point? To have no reference point
 would be to change a deep-seated habitual response to the world: wanting
 to make it work out one way or the other. If I can't go left or right, I
 will die! When we don't go left or right, we feel like we are in a detox
 center. We're alone, cold turkey with all the edginess that we've been
 trying to avoid by going left or right. That edginess can feel pretty
 heavy.
 
 However, years and years of going to the left or right, going to yes or
 no, going to right or wrong has never really changed anything.
 Scrambling for security has never brought anything but momentary joy.
 It's like changing the position of our legs in meditation. Our legs hurt
 from sitting cross-legged, so we move them. And then we feel, Phew!
 What a relief! But two and a half minutes later, we want to move them
 again. We keep moving around seeking pleasure, seeking comfort, and the
 satisfaction that we get is very short-lived.
 
 We hear a lot about the pain of samsara, and we also hear about
 liberation. But we don't hear much about how painful it is to go from
 being completely stuck to becoming unstuck. The process of becoming
 unstuck requires tremendous bravery, because basically we are completely
 changing our way of perceiving reality, like changing our DNA. We are
 undoing a pattern that is not just our pattern. It's the human pattern:
 we project onto the world a zillion possibilities of attaining
 resolution. We can have whiter teeth, a weed-free lawn, a strife-free
 life, a world without embarrassment. We can live happily every after.
 This pattern keeps us dissatisfied and causes us a lot of suffering.
 
 As human beings, not only do we seek resolution, but we also feel that
 we deserve resolution. However, not only do we not deserve resolution,
 we suffer from resolution. We don't deserve resolution; we deserve
 something better than that. We deserve our birthright, which is the
 middle way, an open state of mind that can relax with paradox and
 ambiguity. To the degree that we've been avoiding uncertainty, we're
 naturally going to have withdrawal symptoms—withdrawal from always
 thinking that there's a problem and that someone, somewhere, needs to
 fix it.
 
 The middle way is wide open, but it's tough going, because it goes
 against the grain of an ancient neurotic pattern that we all share. When
 we feel lonely, when we feel hopeless, what we want to do is move to the
 right or the left. We don't want to sit and feel what we feel. We don't
 want to go through the detox. Yet the middle way encourages us to do
 just that. It encourages us to awaken the bravery that exists in
 everyone without exception, including you and me.
 
 Meditation provides a way for us to train in the middle way—in
 staying right on the spot. We are encouraged not to judge whatever
 arises in our mind. In fact, we are encouraged not to even grasp
 whatever arises in our mind. What we usually call good or bad we simply
 acknowledge as thinking, without all the usual drama that goes along
 with right and wrong. We are instructed to let the thoughts come and go
 as if touching a bubble with a feather. This straightforward discipline
 prepares us to stop struggling and discover a fresh, unbiased state of
 being.
 
 The experience of certain feelings can seem particularly pregnant with
 desire for resolution: loneliness, boredom, anxiety. Unless we can relax
 with these feelings, it's very hard to stay in the middle when we
 experience them. We want victory or defeat, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool loneliness: Six Kinds of Loneliness By Ani Pema Choedroen

2012-07-30 Thread marekreavis
Very nice.

And thanks for that input this morning.

***

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote:

 
 For all our beloved cool FFL er and/or all who search for coolness [:D]
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjesjbEQpqM
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjesjbEQpqM
 Six Kinds of Loneliness
 By Pema Choedroen
 
 To be without a reference point is the ultimate loneliness. It is also
 called enlightenment.
 
 
 In the middle way, there is no reference point. The mind with no
 reference point does not resolve itself, does not fixate or grasp. How
 could we possibly have no reference point? To have no reference point
 would be to change a deep-seated habitual response to the world: wanting
 to make it work out one way or the other. If I can't go left or right, I
 will die! When we don't go left or right, we feel like we are in a detox
 center. We're alone, cold turkey with all the edginess that we've been
 trying to avoid by going left or right. That edginess can feel pretty
 heavy.
 
 However, years and years of going to the left or right, going to yes or
 no, going to right or wrong has never really changed anything.
 Scrambling for security has never brought anything but momentary joy.
 It's like changing the position of our legs in meditation. Our legs hurt
 from sitting cross-legged, so we move them. And then we feel, Phew!
 What a relief! But two and a half minutes later, we want to move them
 again. We keep moving around seeking pleasure, seeking comfort, and the
 satisfaction that we get is very short-lived.
 
 We hear a lot about the pain of samsara, and we also hear about
 liberation. But we don't hear much about how painful it is to go from
 being completely stuck to becoming unstuck. The process of becoming
 unstuck requires tremendous bravery, because basically we are completely
 changing our way of perceiving reality, like changing our DNA. We are
 undoing a pattern that is not just our pattern. It's the human pattern:
 we project onto the world a zillion possibilities of attaining
 resolution. We can have whiter teeth, a weed-free lawn, a strife-free
 life, a world without embarrassment. We can live happily every after.
 This pattern keeps us dissatisfied and causes us a lot of suffering.
 
 As human beings, not only do we seek resolution, but we also feel that
 we deserve resolution. However, not only do we not deserve resolution,
 we suffer from resolution. We don't deserve resolution; we deserve
 something better than that. We deserve our birthright, which is the
 middle way, an open state of mind that can relax with paradox and
 ambiguity. To the degree that we've been avoiding uncertainty, we're
 naturally going to have withdrawal symptoms—withdrawal from always
 thinking that there's a problem and that someone, somewhere, needs to
 fix it.
 
 The middle way is wide open, but it's tough going, because it goes
 against the grain of an ancient neurotic pattern that we all share. When
 we feel lonely, when we feel hopeless, what we want to do is move to the
 right or the left. We don't want to sit and feel what we feel. We don't
 want to go through the detox. Yet the middle way encourages us to do
 just that. It encourages us to awaken the bravery that exists in
 everyone without exception, including you and me.
 
 Meditation provides a way for us to train in the middle way—in
 staying right on the spot. We are encouraged not to judge whatever
 arises in our mind. In fact, we are encouraged not to even grasp
 whatever arises in our mind. What we usually call good or bad we simply
 acknowledge as thinking, without all the usual drama that goes along
 with right and wrong. We are instructed to let the thoughts come and go
 as if touching a bubble with a feather. This straightforward discipline
 prepares us to stop struggling and discover a fresh, unbiased state of
 being.
 
 The experience of certain feelings can seem particularly pregnant with
 desire for resolution: loneliness, boredom, anxiety. Unless we can relax
 with these feelings, it's very hard to stay in the middle when we
 experience them. We want victory or defeat, praise or blame. For
 example, if somebody abandons us, we don't want to be with that raw
 discomfort. Instead, we conjure up a familiar identity of ourselves as a
 hapless victim. Or maybe we avoid the rawness by acting out and
 righteously telling the person how messed up he or she is. We
 automatically want to cover over the pain in one way or another,
 identifying with victory or victimhood.
 
 Usually we regard loneliness as an enemy. Heartache is not something we
 choose to invite in. It's restless and pregnant and hot with the desire
 to escape and find something or someone to keep us company. When we can
 rest in the middle, we begin to have a nonthreatening relationship with
 loneliness, a relaxing and cooling loneliness that completely turns our
 usual fearful patterns upside down.
 
 There are six ways of describing this kind of cool 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool loneliness: Six Kinds of Loneliness By Ani Pema Choedroen

2012-07-30 Thread turquoiseb
Thanks for finding and posting this, Meru. I'm having a problem with
Flash and its plugins to Chrome and Firefox recently, and can't
successfully view videos on YouTube without my machine crashing. It's
frustrating, because it means that until I find a patch or a fix, I
can't really watch any of the cool links provided by people here. Oh
well...my middle way approach to it is to try not to mind. :-)

This is a great talk/piece of writing by Pema. One of her traits that
I've come to like is her tendency to avoid spiritual buzzwords. In this
talk, out of 2116 words, only one would be unfamiliar to yer general
person on the street, samsara. Whatever his faults, Rama - Fred Lenz
had that trait as well; he always felt that peppering one's talks with
buzzwords was a way of rejecting readers or listeners, as opposed to
including them. She obviously feels the same way.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote:

 For all our beloved cool FFL er and/or all who search for coolness
[:D]
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjesjbEQpqM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjesjbEQpqM

 Six Kinds of Loneliness
 By Pema Choedroen

 To be without a reference point is the ultimate loneliness. It is also
 called enlightenment.


 In the middle way, there is no reference point. The mind with no
 reference point does not resolve itself, does not fixate or grasp. How
 could we possibly have no reference point? To have no reference point
 would be to change a deep-seated habitual response to the world:
wanting
 to make it work out one way or the other. If I can't go left or right,
I
 will die! When we don't go left or right, we feel like we are in a
detox
 center. We're alone, cold turkey with all the edginess that we've been
 trying to avoid by going left or right. That edginess can feel pretty
 heavy.

 However, years and years of going to the left or right, going to yes
or
 no, going to right or wrong has never really changed anything.
 Scrambling for security has never brought anything but momentary joy.
 It's like changing the position of our legs in meditation. Our legs
hurt
 from sitting cross-legged, so we move them. And then we feel, Phew!
 What a relief! But two and a half minutes later, we want to move them
 again. We keep moving around seeking pleasure, seeking comfort, and
the
 satisfaction that we get is very short-lived.

 We hear a lot about the pain of samsara, and we also hear about
 liberation. But we don't hear much about how painful it is to go from
 being completely stuck to becoming unstuck. The process of becoming
 unstuck requires tremendous bravery, because basically we are
completely
 changing our way of perceiving reality, like changing our DNA. We are
 undoing a pattern that is not just our pattern. It's the human
pattern:
 we project onto the world a zillion possibilities of attaining
 resolution. We can have whiter teeth, a weed-free lawn, a strife-free
 life, a world without embarrassment. We can live happily every after.
 This pattern keeps us dissatisfied and causes us a lot of suffering.

 As human beings, not only do we seek resolution, but we also feel that
 we deserve resolution. However, not only do we not deserve resolution,
 we suffer from resolution. We don't deserve resolution; we deserve
 something better than that. We deserve our birthright, which is the
 middle way, an open state of mind that can relax with paradox and
 ambiguity. To the degree that we've been avoiding uncertainty, we're
 naturally going to have withdrawal symptoms—withdrawal from always
 thinking that there's a problem and that someone, somewhere, needs to
 fix it.

 The middle way is wide open, but it's tough going, because it goes
 against the grain of an ancient neurotic pattern that we all share.
When
 we feel lonely, when we feel hopeless, what we want to do is move to
the
 right or the left. We don't want to sit and feel what we feel. We
don't
 want to go through the detox. Yet the middle way encourages us to do
 just that. It encourages us to awaken the bravery that exists in
 everyone without exception, including you and me.

 Meditation provides a way for us to train in the middle way—in
 staying right on the spot. We are encouraged not to judge whatever
 arises in our mind. In fact, we are encouraged not to even grasp
 whatever arises in our mind. What we usually call good or bad we
simply
 acknowledge as thinking, without all the usual drama that goes along
 with right and wrong. We are instructed to let the thoughts come and
go
 as if touching a bubble with a feather. This straightforward
discipline
 prepares us to stop struggling and discover a fresh, unbiased state of
 being.

 The experience of certain feelings can seem particularly pregnant with
 desire for resolution: loneliness, boredom, anxiety. Unless we can
relax
 with these feelings, it's very hard to stay in the middle when we
 experience them. We want victory or defeat, praise or blame. For
 example, if somebody abandons us, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool loneliness: Six Kinds of Loneliness By Ani Pema Choedroen

2012-07-30 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Thanks for finding and posting this, Meru. I'm having a problem with
 Flash and its plugins to Chrome and Firefox recently, and can't
 successfully view videos on YouTube without my machine crashing. It's
 frustrating, because it means that until I find a patch or a fix, I
 can't really watch any of the cool links provided by people here. Oh
 well...my middle way approach to it is to try not to mind. :-)

Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the software? I just found out I 
could not watch a youtube Flash video on Firefox, but was able to on Chrome. I 
have a lot of script and ad blocking software on Firefox. When I shut down the 
blocking software  completely, I was then able to run Flash videos on Firefox. 
HTML5 videos are also sometimes served up as alternates to Flash. Adobe also 
tries to install update software on machines which can cut in at unexpected 
times.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool loneliness: Six Kinds of Loneliness By Ani Pema Choedroen

2012-07-30 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Thanks for finding and posting this, Meru. I'm having a problem 
  with Flash and its plugins to Chrome and Firefox recently, and 
  can't successfully view videos on YouTube without my machine 
  crashing. It's frustrating, because it means that until I find 
  a patch or a fix, I can't really watch any of the cool links 
  provided by people here. Oh well...my middle way approach to 
  it is to try not to mind. :-)
 
 Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the software? I 
 just found out I could not watch a youtube Flash video on 
 Firefox, but was able to on Chrome. 

The crashes happen for me in both Firefox and Chrome, alas.

 I have a lot of script and ad blocking software on Firefox. 
 When I shut down the blocking software completely, I was then 
 able to run Flash videos on Firefox. 

I have come across this idea on the Net as I researched the
problem, and am hoping that it *isn't* an incompatibility
between Flash and Ad-Blocker. I would sooner do without 
watching videos on YouTube than do without Ad-Blocker. :-)

 HTML5 videos are also sometimes served up as alternates to 
 Flash. Adobe also tries to install update software on machines 
 which can cut in at unexpected times.

Adobe is well known in the business for putting out some
of the buggiest and crappiest releases in software history,
and for not giving a damn when this is pointed out to them.
That's one of the reasons I can almost understand Apple
not providing support for Flash in its phones and iPads;
they don't want to be put in the position of continually
dealing with complaints from users about bugs that are
caused by Flash.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool loneliness: Six Kinds of Loneliness By Ani Pema Choedroen

2012-07-30 Thread iranitea


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Thanks for finding and posting this, Meru. I'm having a problem 
   with Flash and its plugins to Chrome and Firefox recently, and 
   can't successfully view videos on YouTube without my machine 
   crashing. It's frustrating, because it means that until I find 
   a patch or a fix, I can't really watch any of the cool links 
   provided by people here. Oh well...my middle way approach to 
   it is to try not to mind. :-)
  
  Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the software? I 
  just found out I could not watch a youtube Flash video on 
  Firefox, but was able to on Chrome. 
 
 The crashes happen for me in both Firefox and Chrome, alas.
 
  I have a lot of script and ad blocking software on Firefox. 
  When I shut down the blocking software completely, I was then 
  able to run Flash videos on Firefox. 
 
 I have come across this idea on the Net as I researched the
 problem, and am hoping that it *isn't* an incompatibility
 between Flash and Ad-Blocker. I would sooner do without 
 watching videos on YouTube than do without Ad-Blocker. :-)
 
  HTML5 videos are also sometimes served up as alternates to 
  Flash. Adobe also tries to install update software on machines 
  which can cut in at unexpected times.

http://www.youtube.com/html5
 
 Adobe is well known in the business for putting out some
 of the buggiest and crappiest releases in software history,
 and for not giving a damn when this is pointed out to them.
 That's one of the reasons I can almost understand Apple
 not providing support for Flash in its phones and iPads;
 they don't want to be put in the position of continually
 dealing with complaints from users about bugs that are
 caused by Flash.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool loneliness: Six Kinds of Loneliness By Ani Pema Choedroen

2012-07-30 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Thanks for finding and posting this, Meru. I'm having a problem 
   with Flash and its plugins to Chrome and Firefox recently, and 
   can't successfully view videos on YouTube without my machine 
   crashing. It's frustrating, because it means that until I find 
   a patch or a fix, I can't really watch any of the cool links 
   provided by people here. Oh well...my middle way approach to 
   it is to try not to mind. :-)
  
  Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the software? I 
  just found out I could not watch a youtube Flash video on 
  Firefox, but was able to on Chrome. 
 
 The crashes happen for me in both Firefox and Chrome, alas.
 
  I have a lot of script and ad blocking software on Firefox. 
  When I shut down the blocking software completely, I was then 
  able to run Flash videos on Firefox. 
 
 I have come across this idea on the Net as I researched the
 problem, and am hoping that it *isn't* an incompatibility
 between Flash and Ad-Blocker. I would sooner do without 
 watching videos on YouTube than do without Ad-Blocker. :-)
 
  HTML5 videos are also sometimes served up as alternates to 
  Flash. Adobe also tries to install update software on machines 
  which can cut in at unexpected times.
 
 Adobe is well known in the business for putting out some
 of the buggiest and crappiest releases in software history,
 and for not giving a damn when this is pointed out to them.
 That's one of the reasons I can almost understand Apple
 not providing support for Flash in its phones and iPads;
 they don't want to be put in the position of continually
 dealing with complaints from users about bugs that are
 caused by Flash.

On Firefox I have Ad Block Plus, NoScript, and Better Privacy. Sometimes sites 
(like bank sites) do not work with this software installed even if those web 
pages have been cleared to be let through. I am not sure why this is. With such 
sites I have not had the inclination to uninstall the privacy plug-ins and 
add-ons to see if they work when it has been removed, I just temporarily use 
another browser, and clear all data from it afterward. It is amazing that some 
web pages are wired with scripting to connect one to as many as a dozen or more 
sites simultaneously, and if you disable the connexion to just one, sometimes 
the page won't function.