[FairfieldLife] Re: Creationists thwart mammoth bid!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : There really needs to be a work around for this issue for those religious minded in this regard. Cognitive dissonance is a bit of an understatement I think. I think it's the creationists that have to figure out the work-around. Maybe they can invent a sort of reality-masking helmet they can wear that isolates them from inconvenient facts. Something like this maybe: http://www.iainclaridge.co.uk/blog/8786 It keeps them alive but shields them from anything that might upset their highly strange worldview. And maybe we can do our bit by banning people wearing these from museums lest they wander into walls and hurt themselves... I have some customers who belong to strict denominations but are mainstream in most other ways. Boy, do I steer the topic of conversation away from this issue, should it ever veer in that direction. I don't know anyone like that - maybe the Jehova's witnesses that knock on the door do but I don't invite them in to chat about it. I think if I did I'd be probing them to find out how they cope with the general acceptance of the rest of society about things like dinosaurs. They are creative though, I was reading that they want a different type of science for studying the past. Apparently they are happy with the scientific method used for medicine and technology (except stem cells probably) but want something that takes evidence from religious writing into account for the study of history. Obviously ridiculous, in order to fit geology in with creationism you'd have to pretend you everything was younger than it looks. For Hindoos you'd have to pretend it's older than it looks and for Buddhists we'd have to pretend that it doesn't exist at all. I don't know what the Scientologists are going to demand. It's all a bit silly really. Sometimes you've just got to face up to the facts and admit you were wrong but apparently creationism is popular in America. Thank god you guys are serious about keeping state and church separate. I was invited to a country wedding of such a customer/friend recently. We had a great time. The groom had his gun tucked in his belt behind his back, and the pastor officiating made it a strong point that the earth was only 6000 years old. She of course was about five months pregnant. It was the second marriage for both. (maybe her third) The dinner served was the crispy chicken that you usually get at gas stations. This guy is a true country boy and we've been friends for a long time. And, the dude is smart. There's no denying these people can be smart, the creationist scientists put a lot of thought into how they can disprove everyone else. Smart but wrong, which is fine unless you are teaching children, as I always say ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Bizarre story. It's hard to believe people still actually believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old.That's a lot of cognitive dissonance you'd have to be coping with these days. Probably why these maniacs have their own natural history museum with humans and dinosaurs cavorting happily together.. Each to their own POV but it's easier to disprove Biblical creation than it is the tooth fairy. Everyone knows there are trees demonstrably older than 6,000 years. And if the Ark landed in Turkey, why can't you find kangaroos outside of Australia? I say they should have to prove the Earth is only as old as the Bible says or put up with the new state fossil. You can't go around controlling what everyone sees by banning anything you disapprove of because your religion tells you otherwise! Can you? Creationist Debate Stalls South Carolina State Fossil Bill http://www.livescience.com/45060-creationist-debate-south-carolina-state-fossil-bill.html http://www.livescience.com/45060-creationist-debate-south-carolina-state-fossil-bill.html Creationist Debate Stalls South Carolina State Fossil Bi... http://www.livescience.com/45060-creationist-debate-south-carolina-state-fossil-bill.html When 8-year-old Olivia McConnell proposed a state fossil for South Carolina, she probably didn't expect her request to prompt a drawn-out fight wi... View on livescience.com http://www.livescience.com/45060-creationist-debate-south-carolina-state-fossil-bill.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Creationists thwart mammoth bid!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : There really needs to be a work around for this issue for those religious minded in this regard. Cognitive dissonance is a bit of an understatement I think. I have some customers who belong to strict denominations but are mainstream in most other ways. Boy, do I steer the topic of conversation away from this issue, should it ever veer in that direction. I was invited to a country wedding of such a customer/friend recently. We had a great time. The groom had his gun tucked in his belt behind his back, and the pastor officiating made it a strong point that the earth was only 6000 years old. She of course was about five months pregnant. It was the second marriage for both. (maybe her third) The dinner served was the crispy chicken that you usually get at gas stations. This guy is a true country boy and we've been friends for a long time. And, the dude is smart. Now that is dissonance. Perhaps there should be some definition of smart if this is, indeed, the case. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Bizarre story. It's hard to believe people still actually believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old.That's a lot of cognitive dissonance you'd have to be coping with these days. Probably why these maniacs have their own natural history museum with humans and dinosaurs cavorting happily together.. Each to their own POV but it's easier to disprove Biblical creation than it is the tooth fairy. Everyone knows there are trees demonstrably older than 6,000 years. And if the Ark landed in Turkey, why can't you find kangaroos outside of Australia? I say they should have to prove the Earth is only as old as the Bible says or put up with the new state fossil. You can't go around controlling what everyone sees by banning anything you disapprove of because your religion tells you otherwise! Can you? Creationist Debate Stalls South Carolina State Fossil Bill http://www.livescience.com/45060-creationist-debate-south-carolina-state-fossil-bill.html http://www.livescience.com/45060-creationist-debate-south-carolina-state-fossil-bill.html Creationist Debate Stalls South Carolina State Fossil Bi... http://www.livescience.com/45060-creationist-debate-south-carolina-state-fossil-bill.html When 8-year-old Olivia McConnell proposed a state fossil for South Carolina, she probably didn't expect her request to prompt a drawn-out fight wi... View on livescience.com http://www.livescience.com/45060-creationist-debate-south-carolina-state-fossil-bill.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Creationists thwart mammoth bid!
In his case, he could care less about the age of the earth. If you asked him, he'd say,I don't give a fuck. If you pressed him, he'd probably concede that 6000 years doesn't make any sense. And that's my point. Most of those strict bible believers, or those who are affiliated with them by default, seem pretty bashful about the issue. But since you asked about him, there is basically nothing he can't do electric wise. He's also a volunteer fireman, and has helped save many lives. He's also is the point man for a high profile construction crew. And he's a charming fellow. Sort of the epitome of what you expect from a country boy, in the (mostly) positive sense of the world. Oh, he also traded a gun for a retired Budweiser Clydesdale sometime back. Funny story: He invited me down to an auction he was having. It was just a bunch of junk. But the one thing, the only thing there that interested me was a Clydesdale horse shoe he had. And here I am bidding against some woman, who kept raising the bid till I dropped out. Turns out it was his mother. I said, like really. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : There really needs to be a work around for this issue for those religious minded in this regard. Cognitive dissonance is a bit of an understatement I think. I have some customers who belong to strict denominations but are mainstream in most other ways. Boy, do I steer the topic of conversation away from this issue, should it ever veer in that direction. I was invited to a country wedding of such a customer/friend recently. We had a great time. The groom had his gun tucked in his belt behind his back, and the pastor officiating made it a strong point that the earth was only 6000 years old. She of course was about five months pregnant. It was the second marriage for both. (maybe her third) The dinner served was the crispy chicken that you usually get at gas stations. This guy is a true country boy and we've been friends for a long time. And, the dude is smart. Now that is dissonance. Perhaps there should be some definition of smart if this is, indeed, the case. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Bizarre story. It's hard to believe people still actually believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old.That's a lot of cognitive dissonance you'd have to be coping with these days. Probably why these maniacs have their own natural history museum with humans and dinosaurs cavorting happily together.. Each to their own POV but it's easier to disprove Biblical creation than it is the tooth fairy. Everyone knows there are trees demonstrably older than 6,000 years. And if the Ark landed in Turkey, why can't you find kangaroos outside of Australia? I say they should have to prove the Earth is only as old as the Bible says or put up with the new state fossil. You can't go around controlling what everyone sees by banning anything you disapprove of because your religion tells you otherwise! Can you? Creationist Debate Stalls South Carolina State Fossil Bill http://www.livescience.com/45060-creationist-debate-south-carolina-state-fossil-bill.html http://www.livescience.com/45060-creationist-debate-south-carolina-state-fossil-bill.html Creationist Debate Stalls South Carolina State Fossil Bi... http://www.livescience.com/45060-creationist-debate-south-carolina-state-fossil-bill.html When 8-year-old Olivia McConnell proposed a state fossil for South Carolina, she probably didn't expect her request to prompt a drawn-out fight wi... View on livescience.com http://www.livescience.com/45060-creationist-debate-south-carolina-state-fossil-bill.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Creationists thwart mammoth bid!
There really needs to be a work around for this issue for those religious minded in this regard. Cognitive dissonance is a bit of an understatement I think. I have some customers who belong to strict denominations but are mainstream in most other ways. Boy, do I steer the topic of conversation away from this issue, should it ever veer in that direction. I was invited to a country wedding of such a customer/friend recently. We had a great time. The groom had his gun tucked in his belt behind his back, and the pastor officiating made it a strong point that the earth was only 6000 years old. She of course was about five months pregnant. It was the second marriage for both. (maybe her third) The dinner served was the crispy chicken that you usually get at gas stations. This guy is a true country boy and we've been friends for a long time. And, the dude is smart. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Bizarre story. It's hard to believe people still actually believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old.That's a lot of cognitive dissonance you'd have to be coping with these days. Probably why these maniacs have their own natural history museum with humans and dinosaurs cavorting happily together.. Each to their own POV but it's easier to disprove Biblical creation than it is the tooth fairy. Everyone knows there are trees demonstrably older than 6,000 years. And if the Ark landed in Turkey, why can't you find kangaroos outside of Australia? I say they should have to prove the Earth is only as old as the Bible says or put up with the new state fossil. You can't go around controlling what everyone sees by banning anything you disapprove of because your religion tells you otherwise! Can you? Creationist Debate Stalls South Carolina State Fossil Bill http://www.livescience.com/45060-creationist-debate-south-carolina-state-fossil-bill.html http://www.livescience.com/45060-creationist-debate-south-carolina-state-fossil-bill.html Creationist Debate Stalls South Carolina State Fossil Bi... http://www.livescience.com/45060-creationist-debate-south-carolina-state-fossil-bill.html When 8-year-old Olivia McConnell proposed a state fossil for South Carolina, she probably didn't expect her request to prompt a drawn-out fight wi... View on livescience.com http://www.livescience.com/45060-creationist-debate-south-carolina-state-fossil-bill.html Preview by Yahoo
