[FairfieldLife] Re: Dan Brown's next novel is based on the TM movement

2009-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
snip
 This particular rap is probably not universal,
 in that people who have not paid their dues in
 the TM movement would think that I was making
 up stuff like enormous ice elephants and yogic
 flying and yagyas performed to impulses of
 creative intelligence that are really Hindu
 gods and goddesses, much less a bunch of people
 dressed up in robes and crowns considering them-
 selves the Rajas and King of an imaginary
 Global Country Of World Peace. It's just so
 weird that most people would not believe it 
 could be true.
 
 One of the reasons I wrote this rap, though 
 (besides the purging-Dan-Brown's-vibe thang)
 is that a lot of hanger-on TM True Believers
 manage to put this stuff out of sight, out of
 mind. They continue to defend TM as if it were
 *only* TM that was being sold and marketed, and
 as if this craziness at the top didn't exist.

Or because they don't think the craziness at the
top affects the value of the techniques.

 It exists. It is arguably weirder than any other
 cult on the planet

Um, except maybe Hinduism?

guffaw




[FairfieldLife] Re: Dan Brown's next novel is based on the TM movement

2009-10-29 Thread sudenkorento2000
This is truly hilarious. Got a good laugh. I also linked it elsewhere, where 
discussions of problems in guru/disciple relationships have been going hot:

http://groups.gaia.com/integralislands/conversations/view/493328#493603

Here is another more profound decent discussion on this topic:
http://groups.gaia.com/ii/conversations/view/488429

Irmeli

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 As one of the weirdest Forrest Gumpisms in my
 meetings-with-remarkable-men of a life, I learned
 yesterday that my agent knows Dan Brown's agent,
 and has been given access to an advance copy of a
 treatment describing Brown's next novel. I pass
 it along for your consideration and edification.
 
 The Lost Angelic Towers Of Inscrutability Code
 
 In the quiet town of Vlodrop, Netherlands all heck
 is about to break loose. The body of a pencil-necked
 geek who was a minor functionary in a secret inter-
 national cult whose ultimate aim is to take over the
 governing of the world is found crushed to death under
 an enormous ice sculpture of an elephant. It appears
 to be an accident except that the letters OTP have
 been branded on his forehead.
 
 Local police, knowing that they will only be stone-
 walled by the robe- and crown-wearing leaders of the
 cult, call in Harvard symbologist Robert Langdon to
 investigate. The leaders of the cult, especially the
 Grand Poobah who leads its imaginary country of
 whirled peas, resent the investigation and resent
 his presence among them because he's not a vegetarian.
 But after some research they reluctantly allow him
 within their ranks after finding out that he, like them,
 has made a fortune by turning everyday New Age
 crapola into money and that he's never once gotten
 laid during any of his previous exploits.
 
 Langdon wanders through the cult compound, seeing with
 his own eyes things he's only heard about as rumors
 over the years. He sees esoteric practices like yogurt
 flying, which involves eating far too much yogurt and
 mashed vegetables and then bouncing around on one's
 butt as the body tries desperately to expel the flatulence
 such a culinary disaster causes. He witnesses occult
 ceremonies called yogyas, in which tubs of yogurt and
 plates of mashed peas are offered to portraits of guys
 and gals he recognizes from his studies as Hindu deities
 but whom the cultists refer to as impulses of creative
 flatulence. He thinks he's onto a clue to the murder
 when he finds the first of many obelisks labeled Towers
 Of Inscrutability, but eventually learns that they're
 just part of ordinary, everyday phallus worship, not
 beacons to extraterrestrials as he'd originally thought.
 
 As he investigates, Langdon pontificates and spews facts
 so much that he bores even the cultists, who are used to
 sitting in front of televisions for hours at a time having
 similarly useless facts spewed at them. He is given an
 award by the cult leaders for his achievement.
 
 After all of his investigations, Langdon finally discovers
 that the murder wasn't one at all. The poor victim was
 not killed by any of the cultists. He took his own life by
 toppling the enormous sculpture onto himself in a fit of
 shame after having been branded (a normal practice, it
 turns out) as Off The Program for the mortal sin of
 eating ice cream. Not able to live with the shame, he...
 uh...takes himself to tusk by impaling himself with an
 ice elephant.
 
 As for the hints of plans of world domination and evil cult
 machinations that he thought he'd uncovered during his inves-
 tigation, Langdon decides that they're not worth worrying
 the authorities with because any cult this ludicrous couldn't
 find its ass with both hands, much less fart its way to world
 domination. He drops the case and runs off with a cute but
 frustrated girl from the cult's Mother Divine brigade, and
 both of them have the first sex they've had in years.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Dan Brown's next novel is based on the TM movement

2009-10-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sudenkorento2000 irmeli.matts...@... 
wrote:

 This is truly hilarious. Got a good laugh. 

Cool. That was my intention. I just read the 
latest Dan Brown book and my way of getting
the bad taste out of my mind was by imagining
what he would do with the TM organization as
the inspiration for his next book. The whole 
rap took 20 minutes, from first morning-coffee-
fueled-inspiration to pressing the Send button. 
I felt much lighter afterwards. :-)

 I also linked it elsewhere, where discussions of problems in 
 guru/disciple relationships have been going hot:
 
 http://groups.gaia.com/integralislands/conversations/view/493328#493603
 
 Here is another more profound decent discussion on this topic:
 http://groups.gaia.com/ii/conversations/view/488429
 
 Irmeli

This particular rap is probably not universal,
in that people who have not paid their dues in
the TM movement would think that I was making
up stuff like enormous ice elephants and yogic
flying and yagyas performed to impulses of
creative intelligence that are really Hindu
gods and goddesses, much less a bunch of people
dressed up in robes and crowns considering them-
selves the Rajas and King of an imaginary
Global Country Of World Peace. It's just so
weird that most people would not believe it 
could be true.

One of the reasons I wrote this rap, though 
(besides the purging-Dan-Brown's-vibe thang)
is that a lot of hanger-on TM True Believers
manage to put this stuff out of sight, out of
mind. They continue to defend TM as if it were
*only* TM that was being sold and marketed, and
as if this craziness at the top didn't exist.

It exists. It is arguably weirder than any other
cult on the planet, minus the group suicide factor
of the Heaven's Gateists. Jim Jones' People's 
Temple was *mainstream* by comparison to people
dressing up in robes and crowns and erecting 
enormous phalluses in honor of the person who
convinced them to never use their own. 

All I did was trip on what the master of co-opting
secret societies and cults for a buck would make
of it all. 


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  As one of the weirdest Forrest Gumpisms in my
  meetings-with-remarkable-men of a life, I learned
  yesterday that my agent knows Dan Brown's agent,
  and has been given access to an advance copy of a
  treatment describing Brown's next novel. I pass
  it along for your consideration and edification.
  
  The Lost Angelic Towers Of Inscrutability Code
  
  In the quiet town of Vlodrop, Netherlands all heck
  is about to break loose. The body of a pencil-necked
  geek who was a minor functionary in a secret inter-
  national cult whose ultimate aim is to take over the
  governing of the world is found crushed to death under
  an enormous ice sculpture of an elephant. It appears
  to be an accident except that the letters OTP have
  been branded on his forehead.
  
  Local police, knowing that they will only be stone-
  walled by the robe- and crown-wearing leaders of the
  cult, call in Harvard symbologist Robert Langdon to
  investigate. The leaders of the cult, especially the
  Grand Poobah who leads its imaginary country of
  whirled peas, resent the investigation and resent
  his presence among them because he's not a vegetarian.
  But after some research they reluctantly allow him
  within their ranks after finding out that he, like them,
  has made a fortune by turning everyday New Age
  crapola into money and that he's never once gotten
  laid during any of his previous exploits.
  
  Langdon wanders through the cult compound, seeing with
  his own eyes things he's only heard about as rumors
  over the years. He sees esoteric practices like yogurt
  flying, which involves eating far too much yogurt and
  mashed vegetables and then bouncing around on one's
  butt as the body tries desperately to expel the flatulence
  such a culinary disaster causes. He witnesses occult
  ceremonies called yogyas, in which tubs of yogurt and
  plates of mashed peas are offered to portraits of guys
  and gals he recognizes from his studies as Hindu deities
  but whom the cultists refer to as impulses of creative
  flatulence. He thinks he's onto a clue to the murder
  when he finds the first of many obelisks labeled Towers
  Of Inscrutability, but eventually learns that they're
  just part of ordinary, everyday phallus worship, not
  beacons to extraterrestrials as he'd originally thought.
  
  As he investigates, Langdon pontificates and spews facts
  so much that he bores even the cultists, who are used to
  sitting in front of televisions for hours at a time having
  similarly useless facts spewed at them. He is given an
  award by the cult leaders for his achievement.
  
  After all of his investigations, Langdon finally discovers
  that the murder wasn't one at all. The poor victim was
  not killed by any of the cultists. He took his own life by
  toppling the enormous sculpture onto himself 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dan Brown's next novel is based on the TM movement

2009-10-29 Thread Irmeli


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 This particular rap is probably not universal,
 in that people who have not paid their dues in
 the TM movement would think that I was making
 up stuff like enormous ice elephants and yogic
 flying and yagyas performed to impulses of
 creative intelligence that are really Hindu
 gods and goddesses, much less a bunch of people
 dressed up in robes and crowns considering them-
 selves the Rajas and King of an imaginary
 Global Country Of World Peace. It's just so
 weird that most people would not believe it 
 could be true.
 
I think it was pretty universal in many ways. Maybe not the external forms, but 
the underlying structure of it is.And especially the OTP, Off the Program part.

I read a while ago the book Enlightenment Blues by Andre van der Braak,an 
ex-disciple of Andrew Cohen.
Cohen is marketing himself as an evolutionary, and a renewer of the role of a 
guru. To my shock I found out that in his relationship to his disciples there 
were many pathological features similar as in TM-organization, maybe even worse 
in certain respects.

Cohen uses cruel methods of punishing his disciples if they show signs of own 
independent thinking. They are shamed by being relegated down in the hierarchy, 
by being put Off The Program.

Irmeli



[FairfieldLife] Re: Dan Brown's next novel is based on the TM movement

2009-10-29 Thread WillyTex
TurquoiseB wrote:
 This particular rap is probably not universal,
 in that people who have not paid their dues in
 the TM movement...

So, upon what authority do you assume for having
'paid your dues'? I've seen no evidence that you
were authorized to teach Vedanta for the Swamis
of the Shankaracharya Tradition. 

Or, for that matter, I've seen no evidence that 
you were made a Zen Master or given any kind of 
authotity such as Dharma Transmission. You can't
even speak or understand Japanese!

Do you have any higher education degrees? 

You're probably going to have to accomplish more 
than taking a Yoga course in Spain, in order to 
have people think you've paid any kind of dues. 

Being initiated downtown in Los Angeles by a 
clerk from the scribal caste in India just doesn't 
seem to be very impressive, no matter how many 
Dan Brown books you've read.