[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > Interesting though. Sitting around recently with adept people who work > > > > with and can see people's energy fields comparatively, the comment was > > > > that the Ravi Shankar AOL kriya people tend to have coarser chakra > > > > systems from the rawer kundalini that their pranayams give. The SRF > > > > (Yogananda) have sweeter cultivated systems and don't have that kind of > > > > evident coarseness at all with their kriyas, they seem to get nicer > > > > energy systems to work with. Ammachi people too have nicer working > > > > systems top to bottom. The TM people, are characteristically top lit > > > > while not connected much to the energy fields in their subtle bodies > > > > otherwise. Sometimes tremendous upper registers of their upper mental > > > > fields but not lit or home (integrated) much at all below that. Often > > > > the TM'ers seem not well embodied spiritually and often carry stuck > > > > flows in their energy fields. That's the comparing experience with it. > > > > > > > > > > That's actually true, it's the same kind of feedback I was getting when I > > > moved out of TM. Later, through the spiritual work going on, that > > > changed. It also corresponds with my experience. > > > > > > > Yep, this person has been extrememely helpful to people here this way, > > Janet Sussman: > > http://www.timeportalpubs.com/sunpoint.htm > > > > In looking at it, for years TM meditators and their families in spiritual > troubles with their own subtle spiritual physiology's have sought out help > from her as spiritual things have got out of balance. Even with the top > level TM folks. She has been an important resource out in the meditating > community, along with the saints, healers and spiritual teachers coming > through like John Douglas or the ladies. > > There are some other people here who are good at it too. However, these > subtle system energetic troubles, even intermittent spiritual meditator > depressions, rooted in the system, evidently get beyond the purview of just > TM and TM-siddhis administrators. > > That Maharishi never really taught much about it makes one wonder how able he > was with it; as in, even the enlightened can't know everything. Is > interesting that M never cultivated or held out shakti-pat as a modality of > his spiritual help. It wasn't his thing evidently. > Neurol-plasticity and chakras? "Integration enables us to be flexible and free; the lack of such connections promotes a life that is either rigid or chaotic, stuck and dull on the one hand or explosive and unpredictable on the other. With the connecting freedom of integration comes a sense of vitality and the ease of well-being. Without integration we can become imprisoned in behavioral rutsanxiety and depression, greed, obsession, and addiction." Dr Daniel Siegel, MD psychiatrist and author of Mindsight
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > Interesting though. Sitting around recently with adept people who work > > > with and can see people's energy fields comparatively, the comment was > > > that the Ravi Shankar AOL kriya people tend to have coarser chakra > > > systems from the rawer kundalini that their pranayams give. The SRF > > > (Yogananda) have sweeter cultivated systems and don't have that kind of > > > evident coarseness at all with their kriyas, they seem to get nicer > > > energy systems to work with. Ammachi people too have nicer working > > > systems top to bottom. The TM people, are characteristically top lit > > > while not connected much to the energy fields in their subtle bodies > > > otherwise. Sometimes tremendous upper registers of their upper mental > > > fields but not lit or home (integrated) much at all below that. Often > > > the TM'ers seem not well embodied spiritually and often carry stuck flows > > > in their energy fields. That's the comparing experience with it. > > > > > > > That's actually true, it's the same kind of feedback I was getting when I > > moved out of TM. Later, through the spiritual work going on, that changed. > > It also corresponds with my experience. > > > > Yep, this person has been extrememely helpful to people here this way, Janet > Sussman: > http://www.timeportalpubs.com/sunpoint.htm > In looking at it, for years TM meditators and their families in spiritual troubles with their own subtle spiritual physiology's have sought out help from her as spiritual things have got out of balance. Even with the top level TM folks. She has been an important resource out in the meditating community, along with the saints, healers and spiritual teachers coming through like John Douglas or the ladies. There are some other people here who are good at it too. However, these subtle system energetic troubles even intermittent spiritual meditator depressions rooted in the system, evidently get beyond the purview of just TM and TM-siddhis administrators. That Maharishi never really taught much about it makes one wonder how able he was with it; as in, even the enlightened can't know everything. Is interesting that M never cultivated or held out shakti-pat as a modality of his spiritual help. It wasn't his thing evidently.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > wgm,Good video clip. I admire you took this bull by the horns and did this > > Youtube clip. It's a good attempt at teaching in a way the TM movement > > can't now. > > > > I do very much remember Maharishi lecturing in detail about this on my TM > > teacher training course (1973). Then at some point in the discussion some > > pointy headed intellectual skeptic got up to the microphone and started a > > line of questions, "...where exactly is this column in the spine?" > > "Where?" After a while of this I could see Maharishi think to himself , > > "well fuck this..." he clammed up entirely right there on the subject and > > went back to transcending meditation 101. He never publicly revisited the > > subject using these terms. > > > Hadn't heard that, thanks. I think it at least needs to be known what the > tmorg's position is on Kundalini, etc. Doesn't mean they have to overtly > teach it, just acknowledge it, it's basic Yoga 101. > > Yeah, looks like the new TM 'Ved and Physiology' course offering is about as close as they will come. It was already in the works as the founder died so it is okay to release it as a new kind of technique. Their challenge as they evidently see it is to position it given all the railing they have done for so long against other contemplative and concentrating (attention) practices and maintain their market position of the brand and market share. So it is buried now more inside for now as continuing education and narry a chakra or kundalini mentioned. There is certianly a chance the Maharaja will do it with more traditional language as the Ved and Physio model is billed as something he did together with Maharishi. Different from TM though, he could probably progress this and modify the technique of the Ved and Physiology course in a way that TM is more sacrosanct and they would not. It is an interesting dynamic to watch in this post-founder era. -Buck > Don't know enough about Roger Ram's book to discern if it's in there...(maybe > it's 'cloaked' under a different name :-), like vayu (airs) which are prana, > or something. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > wgm,Good video clip. I admire you took this bull by the horns and did this > Youtube clip. It's a good attempt at teaching in a way the TM movement can't > now. > > I do very much remember Maharishi lecturing in detail about this on my TM > teacher training course (1973). Then at some point in the discussion some > pointy headed intellectual skeptic got up to the microphone and started a > line of questions, "...where exactly is this column in the spine?" "Where?" > After a while of this I could see Maharishi think to himself , "well fuck > this..." he clammed up entirely right there on the subject and went back to > transcending meditation 101. He never publicly revisited the subject using > these terms. Hadn't heard that, thanks. I think it at least needs to be known what the tmorg's position is on Kundalini, etc. Doesn't mean they have to overtly teach it, just acknowledge it, it's basic Yoga 101. Don't know enough about Roger Ram's book to discern if it's in there...(maybe it's 'cloaked' under a different name :-), like vayu (airs) which are prana, or something.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices
wgm,Good video clip. I admire you took this bull by the horns and did this Youtube clip. It's a good attempt at teaching in a way the TM movement can't now. I do very much remember Maharishi lecturing in detail about this on my TM teacher training course (1973). Then at some point in the discussion some pointy headed intellectual skeptic got up to the microphone and started a line of questions, "...where exactly is this column in the spine?" "Where?" After a while of this I could see Maharishi think to himself , "well fuck this..." he clammed up entirely right there on the subject and went back to transcending meditation 101. He never publicly revisited the subject using these terms. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > It doesn't have to. TM is a gentle enough technique, that by the time > > chakras are recognized by the TMer, its game over - might seem flashy but > > no big deal - doesn't have a disruptive effect. TMSP, different story.:-) > > I don't recall MMY ever making such a comment, even remotely...face it, MMY > left this out of his lexicon because it is too esoteric for the general > public, therefore NOBODY gets to learn about it!! > > You HAVE to go else where to learn about this basic Yogic teaching and > phenomenon, (awakening the serpent fire is central to rising to higher > consciousness). > > Below is the synopsis of his ONE lecture extant that we know of: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HHkXoH97r0&context=C3174395ADOEgsToPDskLnPYlY7PYlfFYFdZo8gEMh >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > Interesting though. Sitting around recently with adept people who work > > with and can see people's energy fields comparatively, the comment was that > > the Ravi Shankar AOL kriya people tend to have coarser chakra systems from > > the rawer kundalini that their pranayams give. The SRF (Yogananda) have > > sweeter cultivated systems and don't have that kind of evident coarseness > > at all with their kriyas, they seem to get nicer energy systems to work > > with. Ammachi people too have nicer working systems top to bottom. The > > TM people, are characteristically top lit while not connected much to the > > energy fields in their subtle bodies otherwise. Sometimes tremendous upper > > registers of their upper mental fields but not lit or home (integrated) > > much at all below that. Often the TM'ers seem not well embodied > > spiritually and often carry stuck flows in their energy fields. That's the > > comparing experience with it. > > > > That's actually true, it's the same kind of feedback I was getting when I > moved out of TM. Later, through the spiritual work going on, that changed. It > also corresponds with my experience. > Yep, this person has been extrememely helpful to people here this way, Janet Sussman: http://www.timeportalpubs.com/sunpoint.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > Interesting though. Sitting around recently with adept people who work with > and can see people's energy fields comparatively, the comment was that the > Ravi Shankar AOL kriya people tend to have coarser chakra systems from the > rawer kundalini that their pranayams give. The SRF (Yogananda) have sweeter > cultivated systems and don't have that kind of evident coarseness at all with > their kriyas, they seem to get nicer energy systems to work with. Ammachi > people too have nicer working systems top to bottom. The TM people, are > characteristically top lit while not connected much to the energy fields in > their subtle bodies otherwise. Sometimes tremendous upper registers of their > upper mental fields but not lit or home (integrated) much at all below that. > Often the TM'ers seem not well embodied spiritually and often carry stuck > flows in their energy fields. That's the comparing experience with it. > That's actually true, it's the same kind of feedback I was getting when I moved out of TM. Later, through the spiritual work going on, that changed. It also corresponds with my experience.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices
> > > On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Buck wrote: > > > Interesting though. Sitting around recently with adept people who work with > > and can see people's energy fields comparatively, the comment was that the > > Ravi Shankar AOL kriya people tend to have coarser chakra systems from the > > rawer kundalini that their pranayams give. The SRF (Yogananda) have sweeter > > cultivated systems and don't have that kind of evident coarseness at all > > with their kriyas, they seem to get nicer energy systems to work with. > > Ammachi people too have nicer working systems top to bottom. The TM people, > > are characteristically top lit while not connected much to the energy > > fields in their subtle bodies otherwise. Sometimes tremendous upper > > registers of their upper mental fields but not lit or home (integrated) > > much at all below that. If TM'ers did asanas every day as instructed this would not be an issue. That is if you believe these "experts" in the first place.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Buck Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 10:03 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> , "wgm4u" wrote: > > Maybe TM'ers don't need chakras, anyway there is NO teaching vis-a-vis the chakras in the TM lexicon, therefore they don't exist. Certainly MMY would have told us about them, yes? > > Does the TMorg even believe there are such things as *chakras*? > It's true the lexicon is almost entirely absent. This is what makes the Ved & Physiology course so interesting to have come out post-humus. It is 'chakric' in essence once you get past the heavy physiology text of the narrative that leads it. And past the way that Aleric and Cynthia teach it with the aggressive attack on other techniques and yet dial back to the essential technique offered of how to use 'attention' to 'enliven' the physiology. The course as taught is mostly over-burdened with defending the TM preparatory lecture the way they present the course. Is interesting that M never really taught this in practice yet set this course with its employment of 'attention' in motion. Seems he was always experimenting and coming to things as a teacher himself. Seems this energetic work must have come to him in time at the end. Maharishi talked about chakras, Kundalini, etc., back in the old days - like Rishikesh TTCs - but he dropped that talk around 1970 when he decided to become "scientific".
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > Maybe TM'ers don't need chakras, anyway there is NO teaching vis-a-vis the > chakras in the TM lexicon, therefore they don't exist. Certainly MMY would > have told us about them, yes? > > Does the TMorg even believe there are such things as *chakras*? > It's true the lexicon is almost entirely absent. This is what makes the Ved & Physiology course so interesting to have come out post-humus. It is 'chakric' in essence once you get past the heavy physiology text of the narrative that leads it. And past the way that Aleric and Cynthia teach it with the aggressive attack on other techniques and yet dial back to the essential technique offered of how to use 'attention' to 'enliven' the physiology. The course as taught is mostly over-burdened with defending the TM preparatory lecture the way they present the course. Is interesting that M never really taught this in practice yet set this course with its employment of 'attention' in motion. Seems he was always experimenting and coming to things as a teacher himself. Seems this energetic work must have come to him in time at the end. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > To be truthful, the same thing could happen with Transcendental Meditation > > in the wrong physiology or unsupervised. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" wrote: > > > > > > http://www.jcrows.com/trogawa_mentaldisorders.html > > > > > > Meditation practitioners of tummo4 should know that they are apt to > > > intensify srog-adzin-rlung, �the life-grasping wind,� in > > > their body, so they need to be careful and practice correctly. Meditators > > > of prana5 (Sanskrit for �breath-control visualizations�) > > > should know that the chakras in their channels could be irreparably > > > damaged if they do not follow the rules and therefore they need to be > > > especially cautious. For example, a prana-practitioner is likely to react > > > with intense fear when someone unexpectedly knocks on his door; a current > > > of fear can soar through the visualized subtle central channel up to the > > > head-chakra, the seat of srog-adzin-rlung, on account of what would > > > otherwise be perceived as a slight irritation. In radical cases of faulty > > > practice, frightening or endangering reports can cause the winds in the > > > body of a prana-practitioner to uncontrollably surge upwards and, as a > > > result, destroy the flow of energy in the body, even retarding the brain > > > and leaving a victim to shake for the rest of his life. > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices
On Dec 20, 2011, at 9:27 PM, wgm4u wrote: > I don't recall MMY ever making such a comment, even remotely...face it, MMY > left this out of his lexicon because it is too esoteric for the general > public, therefore NOBODY gets to learn about it!! Robin will probably - if he dare be honest; and if he saw it - testify that the inner circle in Switzerland circulated a self assembled book on all the many levels of 7 and their sources in Vedic and tantric literature. I ran in to it several times in FF in RWC circles. Big sucker.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > It doesn't have to. TM is a gentle enough technique, that by the time chakras > are recognized by the TMer, its game over - might seem flashy but no big deal > - doesn't have a disruptive effect. TMSP, different story.:-) I don't recall MMY ever making such a comment, even remotely...face it, MMY left this out of his lexicon because it is too esoteric for the general public, therefore NOBODY gets to learn about it!! You HAVE to go else where to learn about this basic Yogic teaching and phenomenon, (awakening the serpent fire is central to rising to higher consciousness). Below is the synopsis of his ONE lecture extant that we know of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HHkXoH97r0&context=C3174395ADOEgsToPDskLnPYlY7PYlfFYFdZo8gEMh
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices
It doesn't have to. TM is a gentle enough technique, that by the time chakras are recognized by the TMer, its game over - might seem flashy but no big deal - doesn't have a disruptive effect. TMSP, different story.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > Maybe TM'ers don't need chakras, anyway there is NO teaching vis-a-vis the > chakras in the TM lexicon, therefore they don't exist. Certainly MMY would > have told us about them, yes? > > Does the TMorg even believe there are such things as *chakras*? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > To be truthful, the same thing could happen with Transcendental Meditation > > in the wrong physiology or unsupervised. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" wrote: > > > > > > http://www.jcrows.com/trogawa_mentaldisorders.html > > > > > > Meditation practitioners of tummo4 should know that they are apt to > > > intensify srog-adzin-rlung, �the life-grasping wind,� in > > > their body, so they need to be careful and practice correctly. Meditators > > > of prana5 (Sanskrit for �breath-control visualizations�) > > > should know that the chakras in their channels could be irreparably > > > damaged if they do not follow the rules and therefore they need to be > > > especially cautious. For example, a prana-practitioner is likely to react > > > with intense fear when someone unexpectedly knocks on his door; a current > > > of fear can soar through the visualized subtle central channel up to the > > > head-chakra, the seat of srog-adzin-rlung, on account of what would > > > otherwise be perceived as a slight irritation. In radical cases of faulty > > > practice, frightening or endangering reports can cause the winds in the > > > body of a prana-practitioner to uncontrollably surge upwards and, as a > > > result, destroy the flow of energy in the body, even retarding the brain > > > and leaving a victim to shake for the rest of his life. > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices
On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:40 PM, wgm4u wrote: > Maybe TM'ers don't need chakras, anyway there is NO teaching vis-a-vis the > chakras in the TM lexicon, therefore they don't exist. Certainly MMY would > have told us about them, yes? He did give out the Om-based mantras of the seven lokas dude (although any brahmin school kid knows them).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices
On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Buck wrote: > Interesting though. Sitting around recently with adept people who work with > and can see people's energy fields comparatively, the comment was that the > Ravi Shankar AOL kriya people tend to have coarser chakra systems from the > rawer kundalini that their pranayams give. The SRF (Yogananda) have sweeter > cultivated systems and don't have that kind of evident coarseness at all with > their kriyas, they seem to get nicer energy systems to work with. Ammachi > people too have nicer working systems top to bottom. The TM people, are > characteristically top lit while not connected much to the energy fields in > their subtle bodies otherwise. Sometimes tremendous upper registers of their > upper mental fields but not lit or home (integrated) much at all below that. > Often the TM'ers seem not well embodied spiritually and often carry stuck > flows in their energy fields. That's the comparing experience with it. That's totally funny - as that's with my experience of TM.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices
Maybe TM'ers don't need chakras, anyway there is NO teaching vis-a-vis the chakras in the TM lexicon, therefore they don't exist. Certainly MMY would have told us about them, yes? Does the TMorg even believe there are such things as *chakras*? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > To be truthful, the same thing could happen with Transcendental Meditation in > the wrong physiology or unsupervised. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" wrote: > > > > http://www.jcrows.com/trogawa_mentaldisorders.html > > > > Meditation practitioners of tummo4 should know that they are apt to > > intensify srog-adzin-rlung, �the life-grasping wind,� in > > their body, so they need to be careful and practice correctly. Meditators > > of prana5 (Sanskrit for �breath-control visualizations�) > > should know that the chakras in their channels could be irreparably damaged > > if they do not follow the rules and therefore they need to be especially > > cautious. For example, a prana-practitioner is likely to react with intense > > fear when someone unexpectedly knocks on his door; a current of fear can > > soar through the visualized subtle central channel up to the head-chakra, > > the seat of srog-adzin-rlung, on account of what would otherwise be > > perceived as a slight irritation. In radical cases of faulty practice, > > frightening or endangering reports can cause the winds in the body of a > > prana-practitioner to uncontrollably surge upwards and, as a result, > > destroy the flow of energy in the body, even retarding the brain and > > leaving a victim to shake for the rest of his life. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices
Interesting though. Sitting around recently with adept people who work with and can see people's energy fields comparatively, the comment was that the Ravi Shankar AOL kriya people tend to have coarser chakra systems from the rawer kundalini that their pranayams give. The SRF (Yogananda) have sweeter cultivated systems and don't have that kind of evident coarseness at all with their kriyas, they seem to get nicer energy systems to work with. Ammachi people too have nicer working systems top to bottom. The TM people, are characteristically top lit while not connected much to the energy fields in their subtle bodies otherwise. Sometimes tremendous upper registers of their upper mental fields but not lit or home (integrated) much at all below that. Often the TM'ers seem not well embodied spiritually and often carry stuck flows in their energy fields. That's the comparing experience with it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" wrote: > > TM does not involve strenuous pranayama or the direct manipulation of the > chakras and does NOT carry the same dangers. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > To be truthful, the same thing could happen with Transcendental Meditation > > in the wrong physiology or unsupervised. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" wrote: > > > > > > http://www.jcrows.com/trogawa_mentaldisorders.html > > > > > > Meditation practitioners of tummo4 should know that they are apt to > > > intensify srog-adzin-rlung, �the life-grasping wind,� in > > > their body, so they need to be careful and practice correctly. Meditators > > > of prana5 (Sanskrit for �breath-control visualizations�) > > > should know that the chakras in their channels could be irreparably > > > damaged if they do not follow the rules and therefore they need to be > > > especially cautious. For example, a prana-practitioner is likely to react > > > with intense fear when someone unexpectedly knocks on his door; a current > > > of fear can soar through the visualized subtle central channel up to the > > > head-chakra, the seat of srog-adzin-rlung, on account of what would > > > otherwise be perceived as a slight irritation. In radical cases of faulty > > > practice, frightening or endangering reports can cause the winds in the > > > body of a prana-practitioner to uncontrollably surge upwards and, as a > > > result, destroy the flow of energy in the body, even retarding the brain > > > and leaving a victim to shake for the rest of his life. > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices
TM does not involve strenuous pranayama or the direct manipulation of the chakras and does NOT carry the same dangers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > To be truthful, the same thing could happen with Transcendental Meditation in > the wrong physiology or unsupervised. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" wrote: > > > > http://www.jcrows.com/trogawa_mentaldisorders.html > > > > Meditation practitioners of tummo4 should know that they are apt to > > intensify srog-adzin-rlung, �the life-grasping wind,� in > > their body, so they need to be careful and practice correctly. Meditators > > of prana5 (Sanskrit for �breath-control visualizations�) > > should know that the chakras in their channels could be irreparably damaged > > if they do not follow the rules and therefore they need to be especially > > cautious. For example, a prana-practitioner is likely to react with intense > > fear when someone unexpectedly knocks on his door; a current of fear can > > soar through the visualized subtle central channel up to the head-chakra, > > the seat of srog-adzin-rlung, on account of what would otherwise be > > perceived as a slight irritation. In radical cases of faulty practice, > > frightening or endangering reports can cause the winds in the body of a > > prana-practitioner to uncontrollably surge upwards and, as a result, > > destroy the flow of energy in the body, even retarding the brain and > > leaving a victim to shake for the rest of his life. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices
To be truthful, the same thing could happen with Transcendental Meditation in the wrong physiology or unsupervised. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" wrote: > > http://www.jcrows.com/trogawa_mentaldisorders.html > > Meditation practitioners of tummo4 should know that they are apt to intensify > srog-adzin-rlung, �the life-grasping wind,� in their body, so > they need to be careful and practice correctly. Meditators of prana5 > (Sanskrit for �breath-control visualizations�) should know that > the chakras in their channels could be irreparably damaged if they do not > follow the rules and therefore they need to be especially cautious. For > example, a prana-practitioner is likely to react with intense fear when > someone unexpectedly knocks on his door; a current of fear can soar through > the visualized subtle central channel up to the head-chakra, the seat of > srog-adzin-rlung, on account of what would otherwise be perceived as a slight > irritation. In radical cases of faulty practice, frightening or endangering > reports can cause the winds in the body of a prana-practitioner to > uncontrollably surge upwards and, as a result, destroy the flow of energy in > the body, even retarding the brain and leaving a victim to shake for the rest > of his life. >
