[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

2013-04-04 Thread Carol
Enjoyed your poetry Buck, and the song in the link. 

Your poetry brought to mind some of the poetry of George McDonald.
http://www.poemhunter.com/george-macdonald/biography/



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> They laid him in a tomb..
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr8jPvb6HE8
> 
> > 
> > As on the cross the Savior hung,
> > And wept, and bled, and died;
> > He poured salvation on a wretch
> > That languished at His side.
> > His crimes with inward grief and shame 
> > The penitent confessed,
> > Then turned his dying eyes to Christ, 
> > And thus his prayer addressed. 
> > > 
> > > Jesus, Thou Son and heir of heav'n on earth,
> > > Thou spotless Lamb of the Unified Field!
> > > I see Thee bathed in sweat and tears,
> > > And welt'ring in Thy blood.
> > > Yet quickly from these scenes of woe
> > > In triumph Thou shalt rise,
> > > Burst through the gloomy shades of death,
> > > And shine above the skies.
> > > > 
> > > > Amid the glories of that world,
> > > > Dear Savior, think on me,
> > > > And in the vict'ries of Thy death
> > > > Let me a sharer be.
> > > > His prayer the dying Jesus hears,
> > > > And instantly replies,
> > > > Today thy parting soul shall be 
> > > > With me in yonder skies.
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > He dies! the friend of sinners dies!
> > > > > And He died on the cross for sinners, 
> > > > > Lo! Salem's daughters weep around!
> > > > > And He died on the cross for sinners.
> > > > > I love my Lord, for He first loved me, 
> > > > > And He died on the cross for sinners.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > A glor'ous band, the chosen few, 
> > > > > > On whom the Spirit came, 
> > > > > > Twelve valiant saints, their hope they knew,
> > > > > > And mocked the cross and flame;
> > > > > > Through peril, toil, and pain they climbed 
> > > > > > The steep ascent to heav'n. 
> > > > > > Om Unified Field, to us may grace be giv'n
> > > > > > To follow in their train. 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Unified Field inspires my heart
> > > > > > > To sing redeeming grace;
> > > > > > > Awake, my soul, and bear a part
> > > > > > > In my Redeemer's praise. 
> > > > > > > This is my dear delightful theme,
> > > > > > > That Jesus died for me. 
> > > > > > > Oh, who can be compared to Him 
> > > > > > > Who died upon the tree?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Noel-coypel-the-resurrection-of-christ-1700.jpg
> > > > > > > > >   (in the air version)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > by Rembrandt:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/924.jpg
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The implication is awesome, "and the last enemy to be overcome 
> > > > > > > > is death" 1 Corinthians 15:26 . Jesus resurrected his 
> > > > > > > > *physical* body 3 days (periods; physical, astral, causal) 
> > > > > > > > after death, his supreme sacrifice of love in the face of hate 
> > > > > > > > and prosecution is truly inspiring, (an example for us to 
> > > > > > > > follow), "Forgive them Father, for, they know not what they 
> > > > > > > > do". Source-The Second Coming of Christ, Paramahansa Yogananda.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > What a great miracle, and the disciples testified to meeting 
> > > > > > > > him again IN THE FLESH. Read Autobiography of a Yogi to hear 
> > > > > > > > other miracles of the great masters of the past.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Enlightened being have the freedom to choose to Reincarnate or 
> > > > > > > > not as pleases the Divine Lord of Creation, they are called 
> > > > > > > > Avatars.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

2013-04-01 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Xeno wrote:
> > > > > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > > > Who here wants their miserable 
> > > > > > > > > little life to continue forever? 
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You're sure it'll be just a continuation
> > > > > > > > of your miserable little life forever, are
> > > > > > > > you?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Well, actually no. But I imagine some think of 
> > > > > > > it this way. That somehow, if one lives 
> > > > > > > forever, that will be better than the same 
> > > > > > > thing lasting a short time.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > My point was that there are more ways of
> > > > > > thinking of eternal life for the individual than
> > > > > > as a continuation of one's miserable little life
> > > > > > forever.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Of course. There are many ways to imagine this. My question is 'does 
> > > > > eternal life have anything to do with individuality?' If a person who 
> > > > > thinks of themselves as an individual entity, a soul, entertains the 
> > > > > idea of immortality, can they meaningfully conceive of eternity free 
> > > > > of that conceptual model?
> > > > 
> > > > You mean the conceptual model in which eternal life for
> > > > the individual is just a continuation of one's miserable
> > > > little life forever?
> > > > 
> > > > Er, yes. That's what I was saying, you see, when I wrote,
> > > > "There are more ways of thinking..." etc.
> > > 
> > > The words 'Of course' were meant to acknowledge what you said.
> > 
> > Yes, I know that. ??? That wasn't what I was addressing. I 
> > was asking what conceptual model you were talking about. If
> > it was the "continuation of one's miserable little life
> > forever," I was puzzled because I had just addressed that,
> > pointing out that it was hardly the only conceptual model
> > available.
> > 
> > > One could also imagine having a very happy fulfilled life
> > > that one would also want to continue indefinitely. My point
> > > is, is it possible for a person who thinks of themselves as
> > > an individual entity to accurately visualise an eternal
> > > state that does not contain individuality as its centrepiece?
> > > That immortality, undeath, is not a function of some
> > > individuality surviving? Does 'eternal life' as it is called,
> > > even have a conceptual model that can underscore its nature?
> > 
> > Since we don't know whether eternal life is a reality,
> > much less what its nature would be if it is, one
> > conceptual model is as good as another.
> > 
> > My point is that the continuation of one's life, whether
> > miserable or happy, is not the only possible way of
> > conceptualizing eternal life, except in the most general
> > sense: the maintenance of one's existence as oppposed to
> > its extinction.
> > 
> > Eternal life need not resemble one's earthly life at all.
> > It may have no temporal component, or spatial component,
> > for that matter. It may have no physical component. It may
> > have no sensory component, at least as we know it. There
> > may be no such thing as action as we know it.
> > Individuality may be of a very different order.
> > 
> > It's astonishing to me that anyone would expect eternal
> > life to be just like one's present life, only forever. That
> > strikes me as a truly massive failure of the imagination.
> > 
> > I've been reading an amazing book by Carlos Eire titled
> > "A Very Brief History of Eternity." His discussion of
> > the role that the concept of eternity played in the life
> > of pre-Reformation Europe is spellbinding and revelatory.
> > To refer to it as merely a "concept" in this context is
> > to significantly understate the case. It may have had its
> > disadvantages, but the spiritual richness bestowed by
> > belief in eternity and eternal life during that period is
> > incontestable. Did we lose more than we gained when Martin
> > Luther appeared on the scene?
> >
> Nice response. You brought up a number of possibilities that did not occur to 
> me. Without Luther, we would not have had Bach. What kind of spiritual 
> richness might come from the idea that we have just one shot at it, and we 
> have to succeed before we die? That seems to be the gist of enlightenment and 
> the end of rebirth which then is understood in a completely different way 
> than it is usually interpreted. At the same time eternal life might be 
> exactly the same as what we experience every day.

See, nobody has a clue.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

2013-04-01 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Xeno wrote:
> > > > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > > Who here wants their miserable 
> > > > > > > > little life to continue forever? 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You're sure it'll be just a continuation
> > > > > > > of your miserable little life forever, are
> > > > > > > you?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Well, actually no. But I imagine some think of 
> > > > > > it this way. That somehow, if one lives 
> > > > > > forever, that will be better than the same 
> > > > > > thing lasting a short time.
> > > > > 
> > > > > My point was that there are more ways of
> > > > > thinking of eternal life for the individual than
> > > > > as a continuation of one's miserable little life
> > > > > forever.
> > > > 
> > > > Of course. There are many ways to imagine this. My question is 'does 
> > > > eternal life have anything to do with individuality?' If a person who 
> > > > thinks of themselves as an individual entity, a soul, entertains the 
> > > > idea of immortality, can they meaningfully conceive of eternity free of 
> > > > that conceptual model?
> > > 
> > > You mean the conceptual model in which eternal life for
> > > the individual is just a continuation of one's miserable
> > > little life forever?
> > > 
> > > Er, yes. That's what I was saying, you see, when I wrote,
> > > "There are more ways of thinking..." etc.
> > 
> > The words 'Of course' were meant to acknowledge what you said.
> 
> Yes, I know that. ??? That wasn't what I was addressing. I 
> was asking what conceptual model you were talking about. If
> it was the "continuation of one's miserable little life
> forever," I was puzzled because I had just addressed that,
> pointing out that it was hardly the only conceptual model
> available.
> 
> > One could also imagine having a very happy fulfilled life
> > that one would also want to continue indefinitely. My point
> > is, is it possible for a person who thinks of themselves as
> > an individual entity to accurately visualise an eternal
> > state that does not contain individuality as its centrepiece?
> > That immortality, undeath, is not a function of some
> > individuality surviving? Does 'eternal life' as it is called,
> > even have a conceptual model that can underscore its nature?
> 
> Since we don't know whether eternal life is a reality,
> much less what its nature would be if it is, one
> conceptual model is as good as another.
> 
> My point is that the continuation of one's life, whether
> miserable or happy, is not the only possible way of
> conceptualizing eternal life, except in the most general
> sense: the maintenance of one's existence as oppposed to
> its extinction.
> 
> Eternal life need not resemble one's earthly life at all.
> It may have no temporal component, or spatial component,
> for that matter. It may have no physical component. It may
> have no sensory component, at least as we know it. There
> may be no such thing as action as we know it.
> Individuality may be of a very different order.
> 
> It's astonishing to me that anyone would expect eternal
> life to be just like one's present life, only forever. That
> strikes me as a truly massive failure of the imagination.
> 
> I've been reading an amazing book by Carlos Eire titled
> "A Very Brief History of Eternity." His discussion of
> the role that the concept of eternity played in the life
> of pre-Reformation Europe is spellbinding and revelatory.
> To refer to it as merely a "concept" in this context is
> to significantly understate the case. It may have had its
> disadvantages, but the spiritual richness bestowed by
> belief in eternity and eternal life during that period is
> incontestable. Did we lose more than we gained when Martin
> Luther appeared on the scene?
>
Nice response. You brought up a number of possibilities that did not occur to 
me. Without Luther, we would not have had Bach. What kind of spiritual richness 
might come from the idea that we have just one shot at it, and we have to 
succeed before we die? That seems to be the gist of enlightenment and the end 
of rebirth which then is understood in a completely different way than it is 
usually interpreted. At the same time eternal life might be exactly the same as 
what we experience every day.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

2013-04-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Xeno wrote:
> > > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > Who here wants their miserable 
> > > > > > > little life to continue forever? 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You're sure it'll be just a continuation
> > > > > > of your miserable little life forever, are
> > > > > > you?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Well, actually no. But I imagine some think of 
> > > > > it this way. That somehow, if one lives 
> > > > > forever, that will be better than the same 
> > > > > thing lasting a short time.
> > > > 
> > > > My point was that there are more ways of
> > > > thinking of eternal life for the individual than
> > > > as a continuation of one's miserable little life
> > > > forever.
> > > 
> > > Of course. There are many ways to imagine this. My question is 'does 
> > > eternal life have anything to do with individuality?' If a person who 
> > > thinks of themselves as an individual entity, a soul, entertains the idea 
> > > of immortality, can they meaningfully conceive of eternity free of that 
> > > conceptual model?
> > 
> > You mean the conceptual model in which eternal life for
> > the individual is just a continuation of one's miserable
> > little life forever?
> > 
> > Er, yes. That's what I was saying, you see, when I wrote,
> > "There are more ways of thinking..." etc.
> 
> The words 'Of course' were meant to acknowledge what you said.

Yes, I know that. ??? That wasn't what I was addressing. I 
was asking what conceptual model you were talking about. If
it was the "continuation of one's miserable little life
forever," I was puzzled because I had just addressed that,
pointing out that it was hardly the only conceptual model
available.

> One could also imagine having a very happy fulfilled life
> that one would also want to continue indefinitely. My point
> is, is it possible for a person who thinks of themselves as
> an individual entity to accurately visualise an eternal
> state that does not contain individuality as its centrepiece?
> That immortality, undeath, is not a function of some
> individuality surviving? Does 'eternal life' as it is called,
> even have a conceptual model that can underscore its nature?

Since we don't know whether eternal life is a reality,
much less what its nature would be if it is, one
conceptual model is as good as another.

My point is that the continuation of one's life, whether
miserable or happy, is not the only possible way of
conceptualizing eternal life, except in the most general
sense: the maintenance of one's existence as oppposed to
its extinction.

Eternal life need not resemble one's earthly life at all.
It may have no temporal component, or spatial component,
for that matter. It may have no physical component. It may
have no sensory component, at least as we know it. There
may be no such thing as action as we know it.
Individuality may be of a very different order.

It's astonishing to me that anyone would expect eternal
life to be just like one's present life, only forever. That
strikes me as a truly massive failure of the imagination.

I've been reading an amazing book by Carlos Eire titled
"A Very Brief History of Eternity." His discussion of
the role that the concept of eternity played in the life
of pre-Reformation Europe is spellbinding and revelatory.
To refer to it as merely a "concept" in this context is
to significantly understate the case. It may have had its
disadvantages, but the spiritual richness bestowed by
belief in eternity and eternal life during that period is
incontestable. Did we lose more than we gained when Martin
Luther appeared on the scene?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

2013-03-31 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Xeno wrote:
> > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > Who here wants their miserable 
> > > > > > little life to continue forever? 
> > > > >
> > > > > You're sure it'll be just a continuation
> > > > > of your miserable little life forever, are
> > > > > you?
> > > > 
> > > > Well, actually no. But I imagine some think of 
> > > > it this way. That somehow, if one lives 
> > > > forever, that will be better than the same 
> > > > thing lasting a short time.
> > > 
> > > My point was that there are more ways of
> > > thinking of eternal life for the individual than
> > > as a continuation of one's miserable little life
> > > forever.
> > 
> > Of course. There are many ways to imagine this. My question is 'does 
> > eternal life have anything to do with individuality?' If a person who 
> > thinks of themselves as an individual entity, a soul, entertains the idea 
> > of immortality, can they meaningfully conceive of eternity free of that 
> > conceptual model?
> 
> You mean the conceptual model in which eternal life for
> the individual is just a continuation of one's miserable
> little life forever?
> 
> Er, yes. That's what I was saying, you see, when I wrote,
> "There are more ways of thinking..." etc.

The words 'Of course' were meant to acknowledge what you said. One could also 
imagine having a very happy fulfilled life that one would also want to continue 
indefinitely. My point is, is it possible for a person who thinks of themselves 
as an individual entity to accurately visualise an eternal state that does not 
contain individuality as its centrepiece? That immortality, undeath, is not a 
function of some individuality surviving? Does 'eternal life' as it is called, 
even have a conceptual model that can underscore its nature?




[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

2013-03-31 Thread authfriend


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Xeno wrote:
> > > > (snip)
> > > > > Who here wants their miserable 
> > > > > little life to continue forever? 
> > > >
> > > > You're sure it'll be just a continuation
> > > > of your miserable little life forever, are
> > > > you?
> > > 
> > > Well, actually no. But I imagine some think of 
> > > it this way. That somehow, if one lives 
> > > forever, that will be better than the same 
> > > thing lasting a short time.
> > 
> > My point was that there are more ways of
> > thinking of eternal life for the individual than
> > as a continuation of one's miserable little life
> > forever.
> 
> Of course. There are many ways to imagine this. My question is 'does eternal 
> life have anything to do with individuality?' If a person who thinks of 
> themselves as an individual entity, a soul, entertains the idea of 
> immortality, can they meaningfully conceive of eternity free of that 
> conceptual model?

You mean the conceptual model in which eternal life for
the individual is just a continuation of one's miserable
little life forever?

Er, yes. That's what I was saying, you see, when I wrote,
"There are more ways of thinking..." etc.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

2013-03-31 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Xeno wrote:
> > > (snip)
> > > > Who here wants their miserable 
> > > > little life to continue forever? 
> > >
> > > You're sure it'll be just a continuation
> > > of your miserable little life forever, are
> > > you?
> > 
> > Well, actually no. But I imagine some think of 
> > it this way. That somehow, if one lives 
> > forever, that will be better than the same 
> > thing lasting a short time.
> 
> My point was that there are more ways of
> thinking of eternal life for the individual than
> as a continuation of one's miserable little life
> forever.

Of course. There are many ways to imagine this. My question is 'does eternal 
life have anything to do with individuality?' If a person who thinks of 
themselves as an individual entity, a soul, entertains the idea of immortality, 
can they meaningfully conceive of eternity free of that conceptual model?




[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

2013-03-31 Thread authfriend


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Xeno wrote:
> > (snip)
> > > Who here wants their miserable 
> > > little life to continue forever? 
> >
> > You're sure it'll be just a continuation
> > of your miserable little life forever, are
> > you?
> 
> Well, actually no. But I imagine some think of 
> it this way. That somehow, if one lives 
> forever, that will be better than the same 
> thing lasting a short time.

My point was that there are more ways of
thinking of eternal life for the individual than
as a continuation of one's miserable little life
forever.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

2013-03-31 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Xeno wrote:
> (snip)
> > Who here wants their miserable 
> > little life to continue forever? 
>
> You're sure it'll be just a continuation
> of your miserable little life forever, are
> you?

Well, actually no. But I imagine some think of 
it this way. That somehow, if one lives 
forever, that will be better than the same 
thing lasting a short time.
 
> (snip)
> > If you want a solution to this 
> > situation,do you look to a long 
> > passed situation for guidance, 
> > or search for some new way to 
> > approach the problem of life and 
> > death, assuming you in fact think 
> > this is some kind of problem to 
> > be solved?
> 
> Why don't you just sit back and enjoy the
> holiday as a joyful celebration of renewal?
>
I went into a church today. I even wore 
a suite and tie. 

Some fine singing, professional musicians (not 
doing their regular work). The memory of 
the concerto that begins Bach's Easter 
oratorio was going through my head, as 
well as the final chorus, when my attention 
drifted from the talk, which happens a lot. 

The talk was about being and being 
resurrected from within, not about 
someone coming to save one's behind.

Those years past that were more like 
monastery life kind of drummed out of 
me the specialness of any particular day.

Every day is like every other day for the 
most part, because life is not 
really about time.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

2013-03-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
(snip)
> Who here wants their miserable 
> little life to continue forever? 

You're sure it'll be just a continuation
of your miserable little life forever, are
you?

(snip)
> If you want a solution to this 
> situation,do you look to a long 
> passed situation for guidance, 
> or search for some new way to 
> approach the problem of life and 
> death, assuming you in fact think 
> this is some kind of problem to 
> be solved?

Why don't you just sit back and enjoy the
holiday as a joyful celebration of renewal?




[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

2013-03-31 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
Christ was never resurrected on Easter. 
Easter is a celebration of the supposed 
revival of Jesus after his death. 

The holiday was not celebrated until 
at least a century after his alleged 
death. Nobody had any idea of what 
'Easter' was until then.

The physical death of Jesus, or 
even whether Jesus was an actual 
person is not the issue.

It is the sense of the symbolism 
and its hidden meaning that is 
the issue. What is it that we 
must be to not die? No one seems 
to escape physical death.

People tend to think of non-physical 
life as the solution to this. Does 
that mean there is something called 
'non-physical death' too? What would 
that be?

Who here wants their miserable 
little life to continue forever? 
The concepts of life and being 
in the first century are far 
removed from life today.

If you want a solution to this 
situation,do you look to a long 
passed situation for guidance, 
or search for some new way to 
approach the problem of life and 
death, assuming you in fact think 
this is some kind of problem to 
be solved? 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

2013-03-31 Thread Buck
The Experience of the Philosopher

I walked abroad one morning fair, 
When ordors sweetly balmed the air;
And birds their artless notes did sing,
To welcome in the cheerful spring.

Surveying nature all around,
The scene with wonder did abound;
But while my ravished eyes were charmed,
An inward voice my soul alarmed:

'Could you all nature comprehend;
You'd better learn to know your end;
These beauties which you now survey
will, like yourself, soon pass away.'


Lloyd Hymn 152
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emb-xLtcSkU 



> 
> 
> As on the cross the Savior hung,
> And wept, and bled, and died;
> He poured salvation on a wretch
> That languished at His side.
> His crimes with inward grief and shame 
> The penitent confessed,
> Then turned his dying eyes to Christ, 
> And thus his prayer addressed. 
> > 
> > Jesus, Thou Son and heir of heav'n on earth,
> > Thou spotless Lamb of the Unified Field!
> > I see Thee bathed in sweat and tears,
> > And welt'ring in Thy blood.
> > Yet quickly from these scenes of woe
> > In triumph Thou shalt rise,
> > Burst through the gloomy shades of death,
> > And shine above the skies.
> > > 
> > > Amid the glories of that world,
> > > Dear Savior, think on me,
> > > And in the vict'ries of Thy death
> > > Let me a sharer be.
> > > His prayer the dying Jesus hears,
> > > And instantly replies,
> > > Today thy parting soul shall be 
> > > With me in yonder skies.
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > He dies! the friend of sinners dies!
> > > > And He died on the cross for sinners, 
> > > > Lo! Salem's daughters weep around!
> > > > And He died on the cross for sinners.
> > > > I love my Lord, for He first loved me, 
> > > > And He died on the cross for sinners.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > A glor'ous band, the chosen few, 
> > > > > On whom the Spirit came, 
> > > > > Twelve valiant saints, their hope they knew,
> > > > > And mocked the cross and flame;
> > > > > Through peril, toil, and pain they climbed 
> > > > > The steep ascent to heav'n. 
> > > > > Om Unified Field, to us may grace be giv'n
> > > > > To follow in their train. 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Unified Field inspires my heart
> > > > > > To sing redeeming grace;
> > > > > > Awake, my soul, and bear a part
> > > > > > In my Redeemer's praise. 
> > > > > > This is my dear delightful theme,
> > > > > > That Jesus died for me. 
> > > > > > Oh, who can be compared to Him 
> > > > > > Who died upon the tree?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Noel-coypel-the-resurrection-of-christ-1700.jpg
> > > > > > > >   (in the air version)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > by Rembrandt:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/924.jpg
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The implication is awesome, "and the last enemy to be overcome is 
> > > > > > > death" 1 Corinthians 15:26 . Jesus resurrected his *physical* 
> > > > > > > body 3 days (periods; physical, astral, causal) after death, his 
> > > > > > > supreme sacrifice of love in the face of hate and prosecution is 
> > > > > > > truly inspiring, (an example for us to follow), "Forgive them 
> > > > > > > Father, for, they know not what they do". Source-The Second 
> > > > > > > Coming of Christ, Paramahansa Yogananda.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > What a great miracle, and the disciples testified to meeting him 
> > > > > > > again IN THE FLESH. Read Autobiography of a Yogi to hear other 
> > > > > > > miracles of the great masters of the past.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Enlightened being have the freedom to choose to Reincarnate or 
> > > > > > > not as pleases the Divine Lord of Creation, they are called 
> > > > > > > Avatars.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

2013-03-31 Thread Buck

They laid him in a tomb..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr8jPvb6HE8

> 
> As on the cross the Savior hung,
> And wept, and bled, and died;
> He poured salvation on a wretch
> That languished at His side.
> His crimes with inward grief and shame 
> The penitent confessed,
> Then turned his dying eyes to Christ, 
> And thus his prayer addressed. 
> > 
> > Jesus, Thou Son and heir of heav'n on earth,
> > Thou spotless Lamb of the Unified Field!
> > I see Thee bathed in sweat and tears,
> > And welt'ring in Thy blood.
> > Yet quickly from these scenes of woe
> > In triumph Thou shalt rise,
> > Burst through the gloomy shades of death,
> > And shine above the skies.
> > > 
> > > Amid the glories of that world,
> > > Dear Savior, think on me,
> > > And in the vict'ries of Thy death
> > > Let me a sharer be.
> > > His prayer the dying Jesus hears,
> > > And instantly replies,
> > > Today thy parting soul shall be 
> > > With me in yonder skies.
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > He dies! the friend of sinners dies!
> > > > And He died on the cross for sinners, 
> > > > Lo! Salem's daughters weep around!
> > > > And He died on the cross for sinners.
> > > > I love my Lord, for He first loved me, 
> > > > And He died on the cross for sinners.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > A glor'ous band, the chosen few, 
> > > > > On whom the Spirit came, 
> > > > > Twelve valiant saints, their hope they knew,
> > > > > And mocked the cross and flame;
> > > > > Through peril, toil, and pain they climbed 
> > > > > The steep ascent to heav'n. 
> > > > > Om Unified Field, to us may grace be giv'n
> > > > > To follow in their train. 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Unified Field inspires my heart
> > > > > > To sing redeeming grace;
> > > > > > Awake, my soul, and bear a part
> > > > > > In my Redeemer's praise. 
> > > > > > This is my dear delightful theme,
> > > > > > That Jesus died for me. 
> > > > > > Oh, who can be compared to Him 
> > > > > > Who died upon the tree?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Noel-coypel-the-resurrection-of-christ-1700.jpg
> > > > > > > >   (in the air version)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > by Rembrandt:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/924.jpg
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The implication is awesome, "and the last enemy to be overcome is 
> > > > > > > death" 1 Corinthians 15:26 . Jesus resurrected his *physical* 
> > > > > > > body 3 days (periods; physical, astral, causal) after death, his 
> > > > > > > supreme sacrifice of love in the face of hate and prosecution is 
> > > > > > > truly inspiring, (an example for us to follow), "Forgive them 
> > > > > > > Father, for, they know not what they do". Source-The Second 
> > > > > > > Coming of Christ, Paramahansa Yogananda.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > What a great miracle, and the disciples testified to meeting him 
> > > > > > > again IN THE FLESH. Read Autobiography of a Yogi to hear other 
> > > > > > > miracles of the great masters of the past.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Enlightened being have the freedom to choose to Reincarnate or 
> > > > > > > not as pleases the Divine Lord of Creation, they are called 
> > > > > > > Avatars.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

2013-03-31 Thread Buck


As on the cross the Savior hung,
And wept, and bled, and died;
He poured salvation on a wretch
That languished at His side.
His crimes with inward grief and shame 
The penitent confessed,
Then turned his dying eyes to Christ, 
And thus his prayer addressed. 
> 
> Jesus, Thou Son and heir of heav'n on earth,
> Thou spotless Lamb of the Unified Field!
> I see Thee bathed in sweat and tears,
> And welt'ring in Thy blood.
> Yet quickly from these scenes of woe
> In triumph Thou shalt rise,
> Burst through the gloomy shades of death,
> And shine above the skies.
> > 
> > Amid the glories of that world,
> > Dear Savior, think on me,
> > And in the vict'ries of Thy death
> > Let me a sharer be.
> > His prayer the dying Jesus hears,
> > And instantly replies,
> > Today thy parting soul shall be 
> > With me in yonder skies.
> > >
> > > 
> > > He dies! the friend of sinners dies!
> > > And He died on the cross for sinners, 
> > > Lo! Salem's daughters weep around!
> > > And He died on the cross for sinners.
> > > I love my Lord, for He first loved me, 
> > > And He died on the cross for sinners.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > A glor'ous band, the chosen few, 
> > > > On whom the Spirit came, 
> > > > Twelve valiant saints, their hope they knew,
> > > > And mocked the cross and flame;
> > > > Through peril, toil, and pain they climbed 
> > > > The steep ascent to heav'n. 
> > > > Om Unified Field, to us may grace be giv'n
> > > > To follow in their train. 
> > > > >
> > > > > The Unified Field inspires my heart
> > > > > To sing redeeming grace;
> > > > > Awake, my soul, and bear a part
> > > > > In my Redeemer's praise. 
> > > > > This is my dear delightful theme,
> > > > > That Jesus died for me. 
> > > > > Oh, who can be compared to Him 
> > > > > Who died upon the tree?
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Noel-coypel-the-resurrection-of-christ-1700.jpg
> > > > > > >   (in the air version)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > by Rembrandt:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/924.jpg
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The implication is awesome, "and the last enemy to be overcome is 
> > > > > > death" 1 Corinthians 15:26 . Jesus resurrected his *physical* body 
> > > > > > 3 days (periods; physical, astral, causal) after death, his supreme 
> > > > > > sacrifice of love in the face of hate and prosecution is truly 
> > > > > > inspiring, (an example for us to follow), "Forgive them Father, 
> > > > > > for, they know not what they do". Source-The Second Coming of 
> > > > > > Christ, Paramahansa Yogananda.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What a great miracle, and the disciples testified to meeting him 
> > > > > > again IN THE FLESH. Read Autobiography of a Yogi to hear other 
> > > > > > miracles of the great masters of the past.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Enlightened being have the freedom to choose to Reincarnate or not 
> > > > > > as pleases the Divine Lord of Creation, they are called Avatars.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

2013-03-31 Thread Buck


Jesus, Thou Son and heir of heav'n on earth,
Thou spotless Lamb of the Unified Field!
I see Thee bathed in sweat and tears,
And welt'ring in Thy blood.
Yet quickly from these scenes of woe
In triumph Thou shalt rise,
Burst through the gloomy shades of death,
And shine above the skies.
> 
> Amid the glories of that world,
> Dear Savior, think on me,
> And in the vict'ries of Thy death
> Let me a sharer be.
> His prayer the dying Jesus hears,
> And instantly replies,
> Today thy parting soul shall be 
> With me in yonder skies.
> >
> > 
> > He dies! the friend of sinners dies!
> > And He died on the cross for sinners, 
> > Lo! Salem's daughters weep around!
> > And He died on the cross for sinners.
> > I love my Lord, for He first loved me, 
> > And He died on the cross for sinners.
> > 
> > > 
> > > A glor'ous band, the chosen few, 
> > > On whom the Spirit came, 
> > > Twelve valiant saints, their hope they knew,
> > > And mocked the cross and flame;
> > > Through peril, toil, and pain they climbed 
> > > The steep ascent to heav'n. 
> > > Om Unified Field, to us may grace be giv'n
> > > To follow in their train. 
> > > >
> > > > The Unified Field inspires my heart
> > > > To sing redeeming grace;
> > > > Awake, my soul, and bear a part
> > > > In my Redeemer's praise. 
> > > > This is my dear delightful theme,
> > > > That Jesus died for me. 
> > > > Oh, who can be compared to Him 
> > > > Who died upon the tree?
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Noel-coypel-the-resurrection-of-christ-1700.jpg
> > > > > >   (in the air version)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > by Rembrandt:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/924.jpg
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The implication is awesome, "and the last enemy to be overcome is 
> > > > > death" 1 Corinthians 15:26 . Jesus resurrected his *physical* body 3 
> > > > > days (periods; physical, astral, causal) after death, his supreme 
> > > > > sacrifice of love in the face of hate and prosecution is truly 
> > > > > inspiring, (an example for us to follow), "Forgive them Father, for, 
> > > > > they know not what they do". Source-The Second Coming of Christ, 
> > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What a great miracle, and the disciples testified to meeting him 
> > > > > again IN THE FLESH. Read Autobiography of a Yogi to hear other 
> > > > > miracles of the great masters of the past.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Enlightened being have the freedom to choose to Reincarnate or not as 
> > > > > pleases the Divine Lord of Creation, they are called Avatars.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

2013-03-31 Thread Buck


Amid the glories of that world,
Dear Savior, think on me,
And in the vict'ries of Thy death
Let me a sharer be.
His prayer the dying Jesus hears,
And instantly replies,
Today thy parting soul shall be 
With me in yonder skies.
>
> 
> He dies! the friend of sinners dies!
> And He died on the cross for sinners, 
> Lo! Salem's daughters weep around!
> And He died on the cross for sinners.
> I love my Lord, for He first loved me, 
> And He died on the cross for sinners.
> 
> > 
> > A glor'ous band, the chosen few, 
> > On whom the Spirit came, 
> > Twelve valiant saints, their hope they knew,
> > And mocked the cross and flame;
> > Through peril, toil, and pain they climbed 
> > The steep ascent to heav'n. 
> > Om Unified Field, to us may grace be giv'n
> > To follow in their train. 
> > >
> > > The Unified Field inspires my heart
> > > To sing redeeming grace;
> > > Awake, my soul, and bear a part
> > > In my Redeemer's praise. 
> > > This is my dear delightful theme,
> > > That Jesus died for me. 
> > > Oh, who can be compared to Him 
> > > Who died upon the tree?
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Noel-coypel-the-resurrection-of-christ-1700.jpg
> > > > >   (in the air version)
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > by Rembrandt:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/924.jpg
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The implication is awesome, "and the last enemy to be overcome is 
> > > > death" 1 Corinthians 15:26 . Jesus resurrected his *physical* body 3 
> > > > days (periods; physical, astral, causal) after death, his supreme 
> > > > sacrifice of love in the face of hate and prosecution is truly 
> > > > inspiring, (an example for us to follow), "Forgive them Father, for, 
> > > > they know not what they do". Source-The Second Coming of Christ, 
> > > > Paramahansa Yogananda.
> > > > 
> > > > What a great miracle, and the disciples testified to meeting him again 
> > > > IN THE FLESH. Read Autobiography of a Yogi to hear other miracles of 
> > > > the great masters of the past.
> > > > 
> > > > Enlightened being have the freedom to choose to Reincarnate or not as 
> > > > pleases the Divine Lord of Creation, they are called Avatars.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

2013-03-31 Thread Buck

He dies! the friend of sinners dies!
And He died on the cross for sinners, 
Lo! Salem's daughters weep around!
And He died on the cross for sinners.
I love my Lord, for He first loved me, 
And He died on the cross for sinners.

> 
> A glor'ous band, the chosen few, 
> On whom the Spirit came, 
> Twelve valiant saints, their hope they knew,
> And mocked the cross and flame;
> Through peril, toil, and pain they climbed 
> The steep ascent to heav'n. 
> Om Unified Field, to us may grace be giv'n
> To follow in their train. 
> >
> > The Unified Field inspires my heart
> > To sing redeeming grace;
> > Awake, my soul, and bear a part
> > In my Redeemer's praise. 
> > This is my dear delightful theme,
> > That Jesus died for me. 
> > Oh, who can be compared to Him 
> > Who died upon the tree?
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Noel-coypel-the-resurrection-of-christ-1700.jpg
> > > >   (in the air version)
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > by Rembrandt:
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/924.jpg
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The implication is awesome, "and the last enemy to be overcome is death" 
> > > 1 Corinthians 15:26 . Jesus resurrected his *physical* body 3 days 
> > > (periods; physical, astral, causal) after death, his supreme sacrifice of 
> > > love in the face of hate and prosecution is truly inspiring, (an example 
> > > for us to follow), "Forgive them Father, for, they know not what they 
> > > do". Source-The Second Coming of Christ, Paramahansa Yogananda.
> > > 
> > > What a great miracle, and the disciples testified to meeting him again IN 
> > > THE FLESH. Read Autobiography of a Yogi to hear other miracles of the 
> > > great masters of the past.
> > > 
> > > Enlightened being have the freedom to choose to Reincarnate or not as 
> > > pleases the Divine Lord of Creation, they are called Avatars.
> > >
> >
>



[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

2013-03-31 Thread Buck
The Unified Field inspires my heart
To sing redeeming grace;
Awake, my soul, and bear a part
In my Redeemer's praise. 
This is my dear delightful theme,
That Jesus died for me. 
Oh, who can be compared to Him 
Who died upon the tree?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
> >
> > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Noel-coypel-the-resurrection-of-christ-1700.jpg
> >   (in the air version)
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
> > >
> > > by Rembrandt:
> > > 
> > > http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/924.jpg
> 
> 
> The implication is awesome, "and the last enemy to be overcome is death" 1 
> Corinthians 15:26 . Jesus resurrected his *physical* body 3 days (periods; 
> physical, astral, causal) after death, his supreme sacrifice of love in the 
> face of hate and prosecution is truly inspiring, (an example for us to 
> follow), "Forgive them Father, for, they know not what they do". Source-The 
> Second Coming of Christ, Paramahansa Yogananda.
> 
> What a great miracle, and the disciples testified to meeting him again IN THE 
> FLESH. Read Autobiography of a Yogi to hear other miracles of the great 
> masters of the past.
> 
> Enlightened being have the freedom to choose to Reincarnate or not as pleases 
> the Divine Lord of Creation, they are called Avatars.
>



[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

2013-03-31 Thread Buck


A glor'ous band, the chosen few, 
On whom the Spirit came, 
Twelve valiant saints, their hope they knew,
And mocked the cross and flame;
Through peril, toil, and pain they climbed 
The steep ascent to heav'n. 
O God, to us may grace be giv'n
To follow in their train. 
>
> The Unified Field inspires my heart
> To sing redeeming grace;
> Awake, my soul, and bear a part
> In my Redeemer's praise. 
> This is my dear delightful theme,
> That Jesus died for me. 
> Oh, who can be compared to Him 
> Who died upon the tree?
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
> > >
> > > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Noel-coypel-the-resurrection-of-christ-1700.jpg
> > >   (in the air version)
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > by Rembrandt:
> > > > 
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> > The implication is awesome, "and the last enemy to be overcome is death" 1 
> > Corinthians 15:26 . Jesus resurrected his *physical* body 3 days (periods; 
> > physical, astral, causal) after death, his supreme sacrifice of love in the 
> > face of hate and prosecution is truly inspiring, (an example for us to 
> > follow), "Forgive them Father, for, they know not what they do". Source-The 
> > Second Coming of Christ, Paramahansa Yogananda.
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> > What a great miracle, and the disciples testified to meeting him again IN 
> > THE FLESH. Read Autobiography of a Yogi to hear other miracles of the great 
> > masters of the past.
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> > Enlightened being have the freedom to choose to Reincarnate or not as 
> > pleases the Divine Lord of Creation, they are called Avatars.
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