[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and his Brahman thingy
Richard is a lost soul to think that killing less children than another killer's total makes one more moral or justified. Murder is murder is murder. Every president of America has authorized murder. The nations of the world kill children, take pictures of their bloody bodies in the arms of their devastated parents, and sell the graphic carnage to us as entertainment on Fox News. If today's barbarity were to somehow be nutshelled into, say, ten words, and these words were spoken 2000 years ago to the crowd watching lions eat Christians in the Roman Colosseum, there would be an audible gasp of disbelief at the sheer volume of killing being done today. Our lions, you see, have roars as loud as 500 pound bombs and can kill dozens, nay, hundreds, nay, MILLIONS in one swipe of a nuclear paw. The Roman miscreants would shit their togas if they saw us for what we are today. Kali Yuga produces a Richard type -- ain't nobody surprised. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Duveyoung wrote: Anyone else want to take a turn at whipping this creep? We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty. - John F. Kennedy Much has been said and written by his foes about how the foreign policy of U.S. President George W. Bush has alienated what should be a host of American allies in Europe. Recent elections in Britain, Germany and France, however, have produced national leaders who have been outspoken in expressing their American sympathies, and a recent survey shows that the world overwhelmingly still wants America to play a key role in world affairs. Read more: 'Putin in Europe's Legal Crosshairs' Posted by by Kim Zigfeld Pajamas Media, January 16, 2008 http://pajamasmedia.com/2008/01/putin_in_the_dock.php
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and his Brahman thingy
Duveyoung wrote: Every president of America has authorized murder. Thank you for this information, Mr. Ed. Almost no one disagrees with these basic facts: that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a menace; that he has weapons of mass destruction and that he is doing everything in his power to get nuclear weapons; that he has supported terrorists; that he is a grave threat to the region, to vital allies like Israel, and to the United States; and that he is thwarting the will of the international community and undermining the United Nations' credibility. - John Edwards The nations of the world kill children, take pictures of their bloody bodies in the arms of their devastated parents, and sell the graphic carnage to us as entertainment on Fox News. If today's barbarity were to somehow be nutshelled into, say, ten words, and these words were spoken 2000 years ago to the crowd watching lions eat Christians in the Roman Colosseum, there would be an audible gasp of disbelief at the sheer volume of killing being done today. Our lions, you see, have roars as loud as 500 pound bombs and can kill dozens, nay, hundreds, nay, MILLIONS in one swipe of a nuclear paw. The Roman miscreants would shit their togas if they saw us for what we are today. Kali Yuga produces a Richard type -- ain't nobody surprised. We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty. - John F. Kennedy
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and his Brahman thingy
So, you, Richard, a war monger, again expect us to be happy to have you as a teacher of the ancient texts to us? Go take a flying fuck. I'm so tired of you posing as a wise scholar when you have a stone cold heart. You have yet to repudiate my condemnation of your murderous morality, and though I took the time to answer your faint defense by comparing warfare to abortion, you have not stepped up to that plate either. You are a coward. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, you think that the Adi Shankaracharya of Sringeri not only initiated disciples into Sri Vidya practices, but said: Worship of Sri Chakra is a must for the Swamis of the peetha. And, as noted, not by householders, but by Swamis. So, let's go figure. There is a shrine to Shankara at the Sri Vidya temple down in Kanchipuram peeth, wherein lies the Sri Cakra or Sri Yantra. And, the Swami Rama of the Himalayas recounted in his book, 'Living With the Himalyan Masters', a direct, first hand account of Guru Dev having a Sri Yantra in his possession at a yoga camp. So, is EVERYONE in the Shankaracharya tradition deluded? Guru Dev and Sri Vidya Does this mean the past Shankaracharyas, as well as the current ones, ascribed to a tantric cult? Is it a fact that the Adi Shankara installed an IDOL of a Goddess on a Sri Cakra (Sri Yantra) as the MAIN DEITY of the Sringeri Matha? Apparently, the 33rd Shankaracharya of the Sringeri Matha died before he could give all the initiations to the 34th, his successor. However, the 33rd is reputed to have said: Worship of Sri Chakra is a must for the Swamis of the Peetha. According to an authority on the subject, normally the Srividya mantropadesa would be done by the guru, but Narasimha Bharati had passed away before his disciple arrived at Sringeri. Hence the mantropadesa was done by Srikanta Sastri. He had been initiated into it by Narasimha Bharati Mahaswami the 34th. The Pontiff's reign was from 1912 to 1953, so he was a contemporary of Guru Dev. The 33rd. was Sri Narasimha Bharati Mahaswami, making him a contemporary of Guru Dev's Guru, Swami Krishanand. Mystic and Seer And, isn't it a fact that the principal deity, Saradambal, the Goddess of Learning, is a focus of a mighty spiritual force? According to my informant, Saradamba, by all legendary accounts, is a deity of Kashmir who was literally brought down to the south of India by Adi Shankara. He installed the idol made of sandalwood on a Sri Chakra drawn by himself. So, here we have Shankara installing an IDOL of a Goddess on a Sri Cakra (Sri Yantra) as the MAIN DEITY of the math! Indeed! Guru Dev and his Brahman thingy And, here we have a totally discredited and false history of the Kanchi matha, with claims that a Shankara founded the Matha BEFORE the historical Buddha was even born, and a direct disciple of Guru Dev who claims that Guru Dev never used any bija-mantras for devotional or self-knowledge purposes, and that Guru Dev was a Rasik Saint who never taught Adwaita in the first place, because he didn't have a Brahman thingy. So, I guess we will just have to go figure, you know what I mean? But it doesn't make much sense to say that Guru Dev didn't have a Brahman thingy when his name was Swami Brahmanand. Work cited: The True History of India by Swami Prakashanand Saraswati Barsana Dham, Austin, Texas Read the full post: 'Guru Dev and his Brahman thingy' http://tinyurl.com/yzjfsv
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and his Brahman thingy
---Thanks, Guru Deb (SBS) appeared to me in a powerful, brilliant dream in 1988 and initiated me into a Durga manta. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, you think that the Adi Shankaracharya of Sringeri not only initiated disciples into Sri Vidya practices, but said: Worship of Sri Chakra is a must for the Swamis of the peetha. And, as noted, not by householders, but by Swamis. So, let's go figure. There is a shrine to Shankara at the Sri Vidya temple down in Kanchipuram peeth, wherein lies the Sri Cakra or Sri Yantra. And, the Swami Rama of the Himalayas recounted in his book, 'Living With the Himalyan Masters', a direct, first hand account of Guru Dev having a Sri Yantra in his possession at a yoga camp. So, is EVERYONE in the Shankaracharya tradition deluded? Guru Dev and Sri Vidya Does this mean the past Shankaracharyas, as well as the current ones, ascribed to a tantric cult? Is it a fact that the Adi Shankara installed an IDOL of a Goddess on a Sri Cakra (Sri Yantra) as the MAIN DEITY of the Sringeri Matha? Apparently, the 33rd Shankaracharya of the Sringeri Matha died before he could give all the initiations to the 34th, his successor. However, the 33rd is reputed to have said: Worship of Sri Chakra is a must for the Swamis of the Peetha. According to an authority on the subject, normally the Srividya mantropadesa would be done by the guru, but Narasimha Bharati had passed away before his disciple arrived at Sringeri. Hence the mantropadesa was done by Srikanta Sastri. He had been initiated into it by Narasimha Bharati Mahaswami the 34th. The Pontiff's reign was from 1912 to 1953, so he was a contemporary of Guru Dev. The 33rd. was Sri Narasimha Bharati Mahaswami, making him a contemporary of Guru Dev's Guru, Swami Krishanand. Mystic and Seer And, isn't it a fact that the principal deity, Saradambal, the Goddess of Learning, is a focus of a mighty spiritual force? According to my informant, Saradamba, by all legendary accounts, is a deity of Kashmir who was literally brought down to the south of India by Adi Shankara. He installed the idol made of sandalwood on a Sri Chakra drawn by himself. So, here we have Shankara installing an IDOL of a Goddess on a Sri Cakra (Sri Yantra) as the MAIN DEITY of the math! Indeed! Guru Dev and his Brahman thingy And, here we have a totally discredited and false history of the Kanchi matha, with claims that a Shankara founded the Matha BEFORE the historical Buddha was even born, and a direct disciple of Guru Dev who claims that Guru Dev never used any bija-mantras for devotional or self-knowledge purposes, and that Guru Dev was a Rasik Saint who never taught Adwaita in the first place, because he didn't have a Brahman thingy. So, I guess we will just have to go figure, you know what I mean? But it doesn't make much sense to say that Guru Dev didn't have a Brahman thingy when his name was Swami Brahmanand. Work cited: The True History of India by Swami Prakashanand Saraswati Barsana Dham, Austin, Texas Read the full post: 'Guru Dev and his Brahman thingy' http://tinyurl.com/yzjfsv
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and his Brahman thingy
Duveyoung wrote: Go take a flying fuck. Get used to it, Ed, I've got over 8,000 more messages to post. All the Gods fight and have wars, Ed, just like people do. Haven't you heard of the Bharata war in the Gita? You're supposed to stand up and fight, not slink away from a debate like you do. Even the Buddha was a warrior. Pacifism is suicide - it's not for this age. You've got to fight for what you believe in, otherwise you are doomed, Sir. It is a terrible tragedy that any child should be killed in a war, but you can't seem to rationally debate this issue because you've got an obvious ideological bias against the U.S. and the Bush Administration. But you don't object at all to the killing of unborn children. You just want to ignore that issue and blame Bush for fighting the War Against the Terrorists and trying to save the children in Afghanistan and Iraq. In fact, child deaths in Iraq have dropped by two thirds since the Iraq invasion. But, because of your bias, there's probably no way that you would ever accept the idea that war can save the lives of children. Why won't you fight to save the children from the evil empires? We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty. - John F. Kennedy In my opinion, Saddam alone is responsible for Iraq's humanitarian crisis.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and his Brahman thingy
This reply below is so sick that I cannot justify taking my time to argue with this monster of denial. Anyone else want to take a turn at whipping this creep? America put Saddam in office and now Richard is telling us that we're killing less children than Saddam so that makes our war's dead kids acceptable? Sick sick sick. Richard you truly are deviant - a broken personality. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Duveyoung wrote: Go take a flying fuck. Get used to it, Ed, I've got over 8,000 more messages to post. All the Gods fight and have wars, Ed, just like people do. Haven't you heard of the Bharata war in the Gita? You're supposed to stand up and fight, not slink away from a debate like you do. Even the Buddha was a warrior. Pacifism is suicide - it's not for this age. You've got to fight for what you believe in, otherwise you are doomed, Sir. It is a terrible tragedy that any child should be killed in a war, but you can't seem to rationally debate this issue because you've got an obvious ideological bias against the U.S. and the Bush Administration. But you don't object at all to the killing of unborn children. You just want to ignore that issue and blame Bush for fighting the War Against the Terrorists and trying to save the children in Afghanistan and Iraq. In fact, child deaths in Iraq have dropped by two thirds since the Iraq invasion. But, because of your bias, there's probably no way that you would ever accept the idea that war can save the lives of children. Why won't you fight to save the children from the evil empires? We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty. - John F. Kennedy In my opinion, Saddam alone is responsible for Iraq's humanitarian crisis.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and his Brahman thingy
Duveyoung wrote: Anyone else want to take a turn at whipping this creep? We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty. - John F. Kennedy Much has been said and written by his foes about how the foreign policy of U.S. President George W. Bush has alienated what should be a host of American allies in Europe. Recent elections in Britain, Germany and France, however, have produced national leaders who have been outspoken in expressing their American sympathies, and a recent survey shows that the world overwhelmingly still wants America to play a key role in world affairs. Read more: 'Putin in Europe's Legal Crosshairs' Posted by by Kim Zigfeld Pajamas Media, January 16, 2008 http://pajamasmedia.com/2008/01/putin_in_the_dock.php
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and his Brahman thingy
Child deaths have dropped by two thirds since the invasion? What is your
source for this?
- Original Message
From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:02:03 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and his Brahman thingy
Duveyoung wrote:
Go take a flying fuck.
Get used to it, Ed, I've got over 8,000 more
messages to post.
All the Gods fight and have wars, Ed, just like
people do. Haven't you heard of the Bharata war
in the Gita? You're supposed to stand up and
fight, not slink away from a debate like you do.
Even the Buddha was a warrior. Pacifism is suicide
- it's not for this age. You've got to fight for
what you believe in, otherwise you are doomed,
Sir.
It is a terrible tragedy that any child should be
killed in a war, but you can't seem to rationally
debate this issue because you've got an obvious
ideological bias against the U.S. and the Bush
Administration. But you don't object at all to
the killing of unborn children. You just want to
ignore that issue and blame Bush for fighting the
War Against the Terrorists and trying to save the
children in Afghanistan and Iraq.
In fact, child deaths in Iraq have dropped by two
thirds since the Iraq invasion.
But, because of your bias, there's probably no
way that you would ever accept the idea that war
can save the lives of children. Why won't you fight
to save the children from the evil empires?
We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any
hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in
order to assure the survival and the success of
liberty. - John F. Kennedy
In my opinion, Saddam alone is responsible for
Iraq's humanitarian crisis.
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