[FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin's Vedic Cosmology

2007-03-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://snipurl.com/1bzh5-NZLZG6
 
 4.2 meg PDF with text embedded.


Er, thanks Vaj. Now people can download it from your site, instead of from the 
original url, 
which I posted on the various newsgroups a week or so ago. I'm trying to get 
him to 
upload his Is Consciousness the Unified Field? article as well:



While tidying up the John Hagelin Wikipedia entry I found this entry listed on 
SLAC, 
scanned into PDF by someone in Japan, I guess:


http://ccdb4fs.kek.jp/cgi-bin/img/allpdf?198912227 







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin's Vedic Cosmology

2007-03-04 Thread Vaj


On Mar 4, 2007, at 1:48 PM, sparaig wrote:

Er, thanks Vaj. Now people can download it from your site, instead  
of from the original url,
which I posted on the various newsgroups a week or so ago. I'm  
trying to get him to

upload his Is Consciousness the Unified Field? article as well:



This is different in that not only is it searchable, you can cut   
paste text from it. It'll be great for people in the future who  
critique Vedic Creation Science a la TM.


I have the other article you mention in hardcopy and IIRC from the web.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin's Vedic Cosmology

2007-03-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Mar 4, 2007, at 1:48 PM, sparaig wrote:
 
  Er, thanks Vaj. Now people can download it from your site, instead  
  of from the original url,
  which I posted on the various newsgroups a week or so ago. I'm  
  trying to get him to
  upload his Is Consciousness the Unified Field? article as well:
 
 
 This is different in that not only is it searchable, you can cut   
 paste text from it. It'll be great for people in the future who  
 critique Vedic Creation Science a la TM.
 
 I have the other article you mention in hardcopy and IIRC from the web.


Ah, so you ran scanning software? Kool. And thanks.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin's Vedic Cosmology

2007-03-04 Thread Vaj


On Mar 4, 2007, at 3:32 PM, sparaig wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Mar 4, 2007, at 1:48 PM, sparaig wrote:


Er, thanks Vaj. Now people can download it from your site, instead
of from the original url,
which I posted on the various newsgroups a week or so ago. I'm
trying to get him to
upload his Is Consciousness the Unified Field? article as well:



This is different in that not only is it searchable, you can cut 
paste text from it. It'll be great for people in the future who
critique Vedic Creation Science a la TM.

I have the other article you mention in hardcopy and IIRC from the  
web.




Ah, so you ran scanning software? Kool. And thanks.



My OCR packages all take PDF's as input docs. I do this to all the  
PDF bitmapped documents I get now. You can search for words then. A  
lot of people are doing entire series of books, encyclopedias, etc. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin's Vedic Cosmology

2007-03-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My OCR packages all take PDF's as input docs. 

Neat. Which packages are these?

 I do this to all the PDF bitmapped documents 
 I get now. You can search for words then. A lot 
 of people are doing entire series of books, 
 encyclopedias, etc.

Wow. I wish that someone would do that with
the works of Dorothy Dunnett. On her discussion
list when we wanted to search for phrases or 
characters, we had to rely on Amazon's Look
Inside This Book feature. And as nice as that
is in many ways, it has a tendency to lock you
out after a very few searches. (There may be a
way to subscribe to Amazon's feature for a 
price, but I never investigated it because I
so rarely had to use it.)

Isn't the sharing of information -- even IF one
can legitimately call some of this sharing 
piracy -- a fascinating phenomenon? The other
day Willytex asked how I managed to watch Lost
in a remote village in France? How? Easy. Remember
that dialogue in the first Pirates of the Carib-
bean movie?

Will Turner: You cheated.
Jack Sparrow: Pirate.

How did I keep up with Lost and Dexter and
Battlestar Galactica and The Dresden Files?
How did I manage to watch most of the interesting 
movies made last year, even the ones that were
never released in France? I cheated. Pirate.

And y'know...I just can't work up that much
Buddhist guilt about it. I was a Deadhead for 
too long as a youth to believe overmuch in 
copyright in my dotage.  :-)





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin's Vedic Cosmology

2007-03-04 Thread Vaj


On Mar 4, 2007, at 4:18 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


My OCR packages all take PDF's as input docs.


Neat. Which packages are these?


I have Adobe Acrobat Professional, ReadIris Pro and OmniPage Pro.  
Omnipage for Windows is the best, but also the most arcane if you've  
never used it.





I do this to all the PDF bitmapped documents
I get now. You can search for words then. A lot
of people are doing entire series of books,
encyclopedias, etc.


Wow. I wish that someone would do that with
the works of Dorothy Dunnett. On her discussion
list when we wanted to search for phrases or
characters, we had to rely on Amazon's Look
Inside This Book feature. And as nice as that
is in many ways, it has a tendency to lock you
out after a very few searches. (There may be a
way to subscribe to Amazon's feature for a
price, but I never investigated it because I
so rarely had to use it.)


Yeah, it is a very useful feature. All the major works in Dzogchen  
for example, have been scanned in (300 DPI typically) and I've added  
the text-behind-image to all of them. If I need to search for  
something, the search feature in Mac OS X will actually look inside  
them and find it.




Isn't the sharing of information -- even IF one
can legitimately call some of this sharing
piracy -- a fascinating phenomenon? The other
day Willytex asked how I managed to watch Lost
in a remote village in France? How? Easy. Remember
that dialogue in the first Pirates of the Carib-
bean movie?

Will Turner: You cheated.
Jack Sparrow: Pirate.


Yeah I missed a number of episodes of TV shows and I just get them  
online now. It is a good idea to use an IP blocker though. My blocked  
window has shown the French government scanning IP address several  
times. I use PeerGuardian which is open source and free.


I only, as a rule, use books I already own or are so long out of  
print and so prohibitively high priced even used as to make them  
unreasonable to purchase. I feel it is perfectly OK to scan in books  
I own. It's easy to do now a days. Get Kinkos or your secretary to  
copy them and then feed them into a document scanner. OCRing takes an  
hour or so for a large tome. But then you always have it at your  
fingertips.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin's Vedic Cosmology

2007-03-01 Thread Richard J. Williams
sparaig wrote: 
 I just wonder if there's any non-hardcopy left.

Yeah, on Hagelin's floppy disk. It's probably on microfiche at the MUM
Library as well. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin's Vedic Cosmology

2007-03-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 sparaig wrote: 
  I just wonder if there's any non-hardcopy left.
 
 Yeah, on Hagelin's floppy disk. It's probably on microfiche at the MUM
 Library as well.


Floppies don't last 20 years, in general. And microfiche IS hardcopy. You can't 
turn it into an 
editable copy without retyping it in (or running text recognition software on 
it).