[FairfieldLife] Re: Huntsman 2.0 - Could Huntsman save the day for the GOP?

2011-08-22 Thread authfriend
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  Huntsman 2.0   Thomas Lane | Talking Points Memo | August 21, 2011
  Poll after poll shows that
  despite President Obama's sinking numbers
  he still fares well against
  virtually all his major GOP opponents.
 
 Too funny. The do.rk's callout is the *least* significant
 point in this article, which is about Huntsman and the
 GOP's search for a savior. They're looking for a serious
 candidate because Obama's reelection seems like much less
 of a sure thing than it did a few months ago.

*And* the do.rk's callout is now out of date.

From the latest Gallup poll:

PRINCETON, NJ -- President Barack Obama is closely matched
against each of four possible Republican opponents when
registered voters are asked whom they would support if the
2012 presidential election were held today. Mitt Romney leads
Obama by two percentage points, 48% to 46%, Rick Perry and
Obama are tied at 47%, and Obama edges out Ron Paul and
Michele Bachmann by two and four points, respectively.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/149114/Obama-Close-Race-Against-Romney-Perry-Bachmann-Paul.aspx

http://tinyurl.com/3nwnuth

The fact is, though, that presidential polls this far out
are virtually meaningless in terms of predicting election
results, exactly because they *do* change constantly.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Huntsman 2.0 - Could Huntsman save the day for the GOP?

2011-08-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@... wrote:
 
 Huntsman 2.0   Thomas Lane | Talking Points Memo | August 21, 2011
 Poll after poll shows that
 despite President Obama's sinking numbers
 he still fares well against
 virtually all his major GOP opponents.

Too funny. The do.rk's callout is the *least* significant
point in this article, which is about Huntsman and the
GOP's search for a savior. They're looking for a serious
candidate because Obama's reelection seems like much less
of a sure thing than it did a few months ago.



 -- What do you make of the new hard-hittin',  tough-tweetin' Jon
 Huntsman
 http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/jon-huntsman-takes-on-the-go\
 p-field-and-president-obamas-leadership.php?ref=fpa ? We ran a piece
 http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/is-he-even-trying-huntsmans-\
 tweets-almost-seem-designed-to-alienate-the-gop-base.php   on Friday
 asking whether the former Utah governor and Obama-appointed  ambassador
 to China was even trying to win the nomination any more.  Since then
 numerous emails have come in from readers who think he's  making a long
 play for the nomination in 2016.
 That's certainly a reasonable view. However, it's possible there's 
 something else at work here, too.
 
 The Republican establishment is faced with something of a quandary 
 right now. Even just a few months ago, the big money and major 
 power-brokers thought 2012 was going to be unwinnable. It was widely 
 believed that the economy would slowly pick up, and by November of next 
 year President Obama would be able to take the credit for that and walk 
 to re-election.
 
 This likely prompted the more credible GOP candidates, such as New 
 Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, to decide to sit out the coming election and
 wait for 2016. By and large the GOP establishment seemed happy enough 
 to send out the political equivalent of cannon-fodder that would be torn
 apart in the No Man's Land of 2012.
 
 However, the sudden threat of a double-dip recession means this 
 election suddenly looks winnable for the Republicans... But only if they
 have the right candidate. Poll
 http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/cnn-poll-the-only-goper-who-\
 can-beat-obama-isnot-running.php   after poll
 http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/obama-surges-to-lead-against\
 -generic-republican.php   shows that despite President Obama's sinking
 numbers he still fares  well against virtually all his major GOP
 opponents.
 
 Presumably this is maddening for the Republican establishment. All of  a
 sudden what they need is a moderate savior who's not tarnished by 
 either extreme flip-flopping or by outrageous statements against, say,
 the  Federal Reserve
 http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/perry-calls-bernanke-policie\
 s-almost-treasonous.php  and the  scientific process
 http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/perry-responds-to-question-a\
 bout-creationism-earth-is-pretty-old-video.php . Hence the current
 conservative calls in  some quarters
 http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/big-names-encourage-paul-ryan-run_5\
 90322.html  for Rep. Paul Ryan and the brief  flutter earlier this week
 over rumors of a Christie run
 http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/report-chris-christie-explor\
 ing-presidential-run.php .
 
 This must be infuriating for Huntsman; as far as he must be  concerned,
 the party already has its moderate savior and he's already in  the race.
 Indeed, it's him.
 
 But the problem Huntsman faces is exactly that he is already in the 
 race. Unlike Christie or Ryan there are now real polls for Huntsman, and
 they show him failing to catch alight.
 
 If he was entering the fray right now he'd figuratively be wearing a 
 halo and would be suffused by a glowing ethereal light while angels 
 flutter around him, plucking away at harps.
 
 But the nature of the nominating process meant that in order to get a 
 viable campaign on the ground, he had to enter a few months ago, before 
 there was this great GOP thirst for a candidate just like him. Having 
 gotten in at that stage, now the numbers are in as well, and the 
 power-brokers can dismiss him while casting their eyes around for a 
 candidate whose halo has not been tarnished by the grime of poor poll 
 numbers.
 
 That could well be the significance behind this new combative  Huntsman;
 he's indicating to the types of people pining after Christie  or Ryan --
 and lamenting that they don't have much time to set up a  campaign on
 the ground -- that there is already an Independent-friendly  candidate
 right under their noses. These new moves are intended to  reboot his
 campaign into Huntsman 2.0. At the very least it should  guarantee he at
 least gets asked some proper questions in the next GOP  debate. It's a
 tough strategy as it does indeed involve alienating the  Tea
 Party-leaning sections of the base. But right now it seems the only 
 strategy that's left.