[FairfieldLife] Re: M disclaims GD sent him out to teach
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > This belief that Maharishi, on the one hand spent many years in the presence > of Guru Dev, and on the other, did not spend > years in deep silence, how is that possible? > > Such a belief would only be entertained by someone who cannot comprehend that > the purifying effect of Brahmananda Saraswati went far beyond his physical > presence. A sleep walker like you is unable to understand such a thing. > Maharishi absolutely spent years in deep silence as a result of the presence > of Guru Dev. During his career, he was precisely correct in offering all that > he accomplished to Guru Dev. Well said ! And everything he accomplished he offered at the lotus feet of Guru Dev because Guru Dev and the Devi both made it possible to do everything he did.
[FairfieldLife] Re: M disclaims GD sent him out to teach
This belief that Maharishi, on the one hand spent many years in the presence of Guru Dev, and on the other, did not spend years in deep silence, how is that possible? Such a belief would only be entertained by someone who cannot comprehend that the purifying effect of Brahmananda Saraswati went far beyond his physical presence. A sleep walker like you is unable to understand such a thing. Maharishi absolutely spent years in deep silence as a result of the presence of Guru Dev. During his career, he was precisely correct in offering all that he accomplished to Guru Dev. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Sep 27, 2011, at 6:19 PM, Vaj wrote: > > > On Sep 27, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Mark Landau wrote: > > > >> Thanks, Rick, yes, Rameswaram. I also heard M say he had spent two years > >> in Uttar Kashi, but someone else told me that was simply a lie (as well as > >> a few other outrageous things). Who knows what the truth was? > > > > > > There was some testimony here (sorry forget who) that it was a rather brief > > time. > > > It's the words of Mahesh's primary biographer and Guru Dev scholar, Paul > Mason: > > "Some believe that Brahmachari Mahesh spent years in > seclusion, but it is likely that he actually stayed in > Uttarkashi for no more than a matter of months before > leaving to accompany an ailing lady from Calcutta > (allegedly a wealthy widow by the name of Sita Saraf) > to a medical facility near Bangalore in southern India. > It is recorded that during his sojourn in Madanapalle, > sometime in June or July of 1954 he began teaching > local people to meditate." > > http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/introduction.htm > > (It's about halfway down the page.) >
[FairfieldLife] Re: M disclaims GD sent him out to teach
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > On Sep 27, 2011, at 6:19 PM, Vaj wrote: > > > On Sep 27, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Mark Landau wrote: > >> Thanks, Rick, yes, Rameswaram. I also heard M say he had spent two years > >> in Uttar Kashi, but someone else told me that was simply a lie (as well as > >> a few other outrageous things). Who knows what the truth was? > > > > There was some testimony here (sorry forget who) that it was a rather brief > > time. And some other testimony that Paul may have been mistaken: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/251796 > It's the words of Mahesh's primary biographer and Guru Dev scholar, Paul > Mason: > > "Some believe that Brahmachari Mahesh spent years in > seclusion, but it is likely that he actually stayed in > Uttarkashi for no more than a matter of months before > leaving to accompany an ailing lady from Calcutta > (allegedly a wealthy widow by the name of Sita Saraf) > to a medical facility near Bangalore in southern India. > It is recorded that during his sojourn in Madanapalle, > sometime in June or July of 1954 he began teaching > local people to meditate." > > http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/introduction.htm > > (It's about halfway down the page.) >
[FairfieldLife] Re: M disclaims GD sent him out to teach
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > It's the words of Mahesh's primary biographer and Guru Dev scholar, Paul > Mason PM is Maharishi's "primary biographer" and also a scolar now ? That's a good candidate for the title Joke of The Week !
[FairfieldLife] Re: M disclaims GD sent him out to teach
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > And also, at least in my hearing with a small group of us, M denied that Guru > Dev sent him out to teach. > He said that he had been at Uttar Kashi and kept getting the name of a place > in the south of India coming to him, I think it was Trivandrum. > As he was sitting some evening, he noticed a man coming towards him. At > first, he didn't recognize him, but then he realized it was his friend who > had just cut off all his hair (someone later told me it was Tatwallahbaba, > but M didn't mention his name). Someone else told me that M never went to > Uttar Kashi, but I'm just telling you the story that M told us as he told it. > M asked his friend, "Is that you?" and his friend assented. Then M asked, > "Why did you cut it all off?" and his friend answered something like "It was > just another possession." > In that moment, M knew it was time to leave and he should go south. He had > already told his friend and, perhaps others, that he kept getting that > message, but they all said, "No, don't go. Everywhere else is just the mud." > So he made his way down to Kerala and, within a few days, he was walking on > the street and realized that someone was following him. He stopped to turn > to the man who said, "Do you speak?" > M answered, "Yes, if you mean do I talk. But if you are asking if I give > lectures, I haven't yet (or some such thing)." > The man was in charge of a library that invited saints to give talks and he > invited M to give a talk there. > M acquiesced and that began his public career. > He said they asked him to speak in Hindi after he had spoken in English (or > vice versa) to see if he sounded so natural about what he spoke in a > different language. > So, another little story, for what it's worth. > Thanks for sharing, Mark.
[FairfieldLife] Re: M disclaims GD sent him out to teach
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > Thanks, Rick, yes, Rameswaram. I also heard M say he had spent two years > > in Uttar Kashi, but someone else told me that was simply a lie (as well as > > a few other outrageous things). Who knows what the truth was? > > > You can go to Uttarkashi yourself when you have cashed in on Maharishi's > sandals. > > There are plenty of people there, youngsters at the time, who will tell you > that Maharishi stayed in the basement of a small hut at the Ganges. For about two years. > > Bon Voyage ! >
[FairfieldLife] Re: M disclaims GD sent him out to teach
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > Thanks, Rick, yes, Rameswaram. I also heard M say he had spent two years in > Uttar Kashi, but someone else told me that was simply a lie (as well as a few > other outrageous things). Who knows what the truth was? You can go to Uttarkashi yourself when you have cashed in on Maharishi's sandals. There are plenty of people there, youngsters at the time, who will tell you that Maharishi stayed in the basement of a small hut at the Ganges. Bon Voyage !
[FairfieldLife] Re: M disclaims GD sent him out to teach
This is the one I've always heard TM teachers tell. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > And also, at least in my hearing with a small group of us, M denied that Guru > Dev sent him out to teach. > He said that he had been at Uttar Kashi and kept getting the name of a place > in the south of India coming to him, I think it was Trivandrum. > As he was sitting some evening, he noticed a man coming towards him. At > first, he didn't recognize him, but then he realized it was his friend who > had just cut off all his hair (someone later told me it was Tatwallahbaba, > but M didn't mention his name). Someone else told me that M never went to > Uttar Kashi, but I'm just telling you the story that M told us as he told it. > M asked his friend, "Is that you?" and his friend assented. Then M asked, > "Why did you cut it all off?" and his friend answered something like "It was > just another possession." > In that moment, M knew it was time to leave and he should go south. He had > already told his friend and, perhaps others, that he kept getting that > message, but they all said, "No, don't go. Everywhere else is just the mud." > So he made his way down to Kerala and, within a few days, he was walking on > the street and realized that someone was following him. He stopped to turn > to the man who said, "Do you speak?" > M answered, "Yes, if you mean do I talk. But if you are asking if I give > lectures, I haven't yet (or some such thing)." > The man was in charge of a library that invited saints to give talks and he > invited M to give a talk there. > M acquiesced and that began his public career. > He said they asked him to speak in Hindi after he had spoken in English (or > vice versa) to see if he sounded so natural about what he spoke in a > different language. > So, another little story, for what it's worth. >