--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > How do you reconcile the fact, which was mentioned > > > on here in some > > > detail, that M. sleeps a full eight hours or more > > > and the fact that > > > enlightened beings require little sleep? There are > > > numerous other > > > items which would bring into question M.'s > > > "enlightenment". > > > > > > So the story goes. > > > > MMY is fully enlightened, no doubt about it, 100% > > true. Nothing in the relative indicates anything > > regarding enlightenment. All mind games and ego > > positions. Vaj, have you ever interacted with MMY > > personally? > > > > > **** > I quote an earlier earlier post of yours dr.Pete: > "The mind wants to have a story as a defense against > experiences that contradict its primary story. Why > have any story at all? MMY is a con artist; MMY is a > great saint. He's both, he's neither, he's nothing. > Why have any story/position at all. Does it matter? > Attached, non-attached...just more stories." > > Dr. Pete why do you want to create this story. Enlightened or not > enlightened, doesn't matter, just stories. In addition to that > enlightenment is a very confusing concept, because it is understood in > so many ways. I myself also understand it in many ways. In one end I > see every living sentient being to be enlightened and at the other > extreme no one qualifies. Why do you need to defend MMY hiding so > strongly behind the story of enlightenment (100% true). > Or maybe there is no "I", who has an agenda to defend here. Words just > lightly pop up from nowhere, there is no weight, no emotional stirring > prompting YOU to write? Whom are YOU trying to delude here and why? > > Irmeli >
In all the pondering about MMY's sanity honesty etc I think the real question which underlies it is the effectiveness of the basic TM and the TM-Sidhis programs. There is certainly some thought that if MMY is a con man maybe he missrepresented thier effect. Or maybe The program/s are effective regardless of MMY's personality. This seems to be the big question at least in my mind. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/