[FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi, a common purpose

[yifuxero]

Most recent photo of Maitreya - Demon Dude on the left, with wings.
Let's see your photos.  (didn't think so).
http://www.fantasygallery.net/morill/art_8_City-of-the-singing-flame.html



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:

 Maitreya speaks of the little ones as His most beloved; those most recently 
 incarnated from the animal kingdom.
 
 He will launch a call to action to save the millions of people who starve to 
 death every year in a world of plenty. Among Maitreya's recommendations will 
 be a shift in social priorities so that adequate food, housing, clothing, 
 education, and medical care become universal rights.
 
 http://www.shareintl.org/maitreya/Ma_main.htm
 
 Maharishi took care of the littles ones in His mission by inviting everyone 
 who was so inclined to start meditation and fasten the evolutionary process.
 
 All glory to Lord Maitreya.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi

[R.G.]

  (snip)
 
 Lutes as close to MMY ? What a joke ! Maharishi cut off that 
nutcase, 
 as you know very well.

I always assumed people who were close to Maharishi, from the early 
days,
Were pushed out by people like Bevan Morris and Co.
I'm not sure what you mean by nutcase?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi

[gullible fool]

 
I stayed with a Ramtha follower who lived near the ashram in WA for a week in 
2000 and learned a bit about the followers. They were really into drinking a 
lot of red wine. It was supposed to be their spiritual and health tonic and it 
didn't hurt that Jesus drank it. I watched a video of Knight at work while she 
and all of her followers were having a wine fest. It was clear to me Knight was 
sloshed.

...but mountain doesn't move!

--- On Wed, 7/16/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 2:20 PM

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My wife does a spot-on impression of Ramtha She won't do 
 it for years and suddenly she'll stomp into a room like JZ 
 Knight. Spouting all sorts of nonsense in new-age speak. 
 Its hilarious.

When I lived in Sauve, I got ahold of a copy of
What the Bleep? because it was produced by 
someone I know. I invited Robert Crumb over to
see it, because he's occasionally interested in 
such things. He knew nothing about the film and
nothing about JZ Knight/Ramtha (and they hid that
well in the film). 

So he watched the film with us, and then after-
wards I asked him what he thought of it. He said,
Well I liked the one priest and a couple of the
science guys (not Hagelin), but who was that
woman who seemed to be possessed by Satan?

I cracked right up. He nailed it.


 --- On Wed, 7/16/08, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 1:45 PM
  -Ramtha was channeled by J.Z. Knight, one of the
  main New-Age so-
  called experts in the What the Bleep film. 
  Hagelin was also there 
  as a featured representative of the new physics. The
  Ramtha/Knight 
  popularity rapidly declined after she appeared to a group
  of gays and 
  told them they'd all be dead in 10 years.  That was
  about 20 years 
  ago. On the same level of incredibility as Creme's
  Maitreya.
Wiki says:
  
  Teachings
  Ramtha is the central figure (the master
  teacher) of Ramtha's 
  School of Enlightenment, started by JZ Knight in 1987 in
  Yelm, 
  Washington. Classes (or dialogues) had been
  held around the world 
  for the previous ten years. A central theme of Ramtha's
  alleged 
  teachings involve the internalization of divinity (God is
  in Us, You 
  are God, Behold God, etc.). Ramtha is described as having
  brought his 
  knowledge to many ancient civilizations in the world such
  as the 
  Ancient Egyptians. The website also suggests that traces of
  the 
  lineage of the original teachings and philosophies he
  taught 35,000 
  years ago have appeared throughout history in the schools
  of 
  philosophers like Socrates, religions like Hinduism and
  Judaism, and 
  the works of great minds such as Leonardo da Vinci and
  Michelangelo.
  
  In Ramtha's system of thought, the material world â€
  the densest plane 
  of existence †and the physical body are never regarded
  as evil, 
  undesirable, or intrinsically bad. A dualistic
  interpretation of 
  reality typically found in the gnostic traditions â€
  emphasizing the 
  struggle between good and evil, light and darkness, sin and
  
  righteousness †is excluded in Ramtha's system of
  thought. What 
  becomes an undesirable condition is to remain in a state of
  ignorance 
  or denial as to our true nature and destiny.
  
  The four cornerstones of Ramtha's philosophy are:
  
  1. The statement 'You are God'
  2. The directive to make known the unknown
  3. The concept that consciousness and energy create the
  nature of 
  reality
  4. The challenge to conquer yourself
  
  
  
  Nature
  When Knight claims she is channelling Ramtha, she speaks
  only 
  English, although in an accented and sometimes simplistic
  way and has 
  expressed confusion about modern items (What is a
  carrot?, What 
  say you in this silver chariot? directed at a woman
  in a wheelchair 
  ['Ramtha', 1986]) while also professing intimate
  knowledge of worldly 
  affairs and conspiracies. During the channeling she behaves
  'manly', 
  with her chest puffed up talking in a deeper and stern
  voice, and 
  often seen smoking a pipe.[1]
  
  
  
  
  
  
  -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero
  yifuxero@ wrote:
  
   --No connection.  Creme is an a-hole.  Maitreya
  hasn't appeared yet.
   MMY is the maha-teacher of TM.
   
   
   - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008
  no_reply@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
  vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
 There have always been paths of freedom and
  paths of 
  enslavement, 
   so  
 this is hardly new. Just the same old, same
  old pattern of 
  deep  
 suffering overshadowing our innate
  authenticity. Some masters

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I stayed with a Ramtha follower who lived near the ashram in
 WA for a week in 2000 and learned a bit about the followers.
 They were really into drinking a lot of red wine. It was 
 supposed to be their spiritual and health tonic and it didn't
 hurt that Jesus drank it. I watched a video of Knight at work
 while she and all of her followers were having a wine fest. 
 It was clear to me Knight was sloshed.

At the height of my drinking, 13 years ago, I would jokingly refer to
Jack Daniels as liquid enlightenment. I may have been stupid enough
to drink half a bottle of JD every night, but I wasn't stupid enough
to think it was actually spiritual or healthy.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi

[yifuxero]

--No connection.  Creme is an a-hole.  Maitreya hasn't appeared yet.
MMY is the maha-teacher of TM.


- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  
  There have always been paths of freedom and paths of enslavement, 
so  
  this is hardly new. Just the same old, same old pattern of deep  
  suffering overshadowing our innate authenticity. Some masters 
will  
  enslave their students, while others will set theirs free.
 
 Absolutely. Maharishi never forced His will on anyone, nor does 
Lord 
 Maitreya ofcourse. Free will is a sacred principle by all real 
Masters. 
 Mr. Creme's involvment is also on a 100% volountary basis. He was 
 politely ask to be a messengerboy and agreed. He has absolutely 
 nothing to gain in wordly matters by doing what he is doing; no 
fees, 
 all proceeds from books goes directly and uncut to Share 
International, 
 etcetc. He gets his travelexpenses covered and that's it. He is a  
 respected painter by profession. If you ask him I think he'd say he 
 would rather paint. He was politely asked to do this job and 
agreed. 
 Simple.
 
 Just because someone, in this case petersuptken, heard about it in 
 the '80s doesn't mean it isn't real. I never met Charlie Lutes, but 
 from what I've read he was quite a loonie. Several persons on FFL 
has 
 stated that Lutes had a rather liberal view regarding facts, to say 
the 
 least. That this dr. peter reffers to Lutes as an authority on 
Benjamin 
 Creme I find eh, rather peculiar.
 
 That Maitreya is about to reveal His real nature is obviously very 
 difficult for religious fundamentalists to swallow. Buddhist and 
 Christians alike. Vaj and the Turk are not alone in this 
opposition, 
 actually most Buddhist are indoctrinated to believe that the Lord 
 Maitreya will not incarnate in 300.000 years from know. Another 
myth 
 soon to be shattered.
 
 Time will reveal how involved Maharishi was in the work of 
Maitreya. 
 One of who's most prominent Masters happens to be Brahmananda 
 Saraswathi. If you wondered why Mr. Creme's information caught my 
 attention in the first place, well now you know.
 
 Heaven will walk on earth, in this generation.
 - Maharishi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi

[yifuxero]

-Ramtha was channeled by J.Z. Knight, one of the main New-Age so-
called experts in the What the Bleep film.  Hagelin was also there 
as a featured representative of the new physics. The Ramtha/Knight 
popularity rapidly declined after she appeared to a group of gays and 
told them they'd all be dead in 10 years.  That was about 20 years 
ago. On the same level of incredibility as Creme's Maitreya.
  Wiki says:

Teachings
Ramtha is the central figure (the master teacher) of Ramtha's 
School of Enlightenment, started by JZ Knight in 1987 in Yelm, 
Washington. Classes (or dialogues) had been held around the world 
for the previous ten years. A central theme of Ramtha's alleged 
teachings involve the internalization of divinity (God is in Us, You 
are God, Behold God, etc.). Ramtha is described as having brought his 
knowledge to many ancient civilizations in the world such as the 
Ancient Egyptians. The website also suggests that traces of the 
lineage of the original teachings and philosophies he taught 35,000 
years ago have appeared throughout history in the schools of 
philosophers like Socrates, religions like Hinduism and Judaism, and 
the works of great minds such as Leonardo da Vinci and Michelangelo.

In Ramtha's system of thought, the material world — the densest plane 
of existence — and the physical body are never regarded as evil, 
undesirable, or intrinsically bad. A dualistic interpretation of 
reality typically found in the gnostic traditions — emphasizing the 
struggle between good and evil, light and darkness, sin and 
righteousness — is excluded in Ramtha's system of thought. What 
becomes an undesirable condition is to remain in a state of ignorance 
or denial as to our true nature and destiny.

The four cornerstones of Ramtha's philosophy are:

1. The statement 'You are God'
2. The directive to make known the unknown
3. The concept that consciousness and energy create the nature of 
reality
4. The challenge to conquer yourself



Nature
When Knight claims she is channelling Ramtha, she speaks only 
English, although in an accented and sometimes simplistic way and has 
expressed confusion about modern items (What is a carrot?, What 
say you in this silver chariot? directed at a woman in a wheelchair 
['Ramtha', 1986]) while also professing intimate knowledge of worldly 
affairs and conspiracies. During the channeling she behaves 'manly', 
with her chest puffed up talking in a deeper and stern voice, and 
often seen smoking a pipe.[1]






-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --No connection.  Creme is an a-hole.  Maitreya hasn't appeared yet.
 MMY is the maha-teacher of TM.
 
 
 - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
   
   There have always been paths of freedom and paths of 
enslavement, 
 so  
   this is hardly new. Just the same old, same old pattern of 
deep  
   suffering overshadowing our innate authenticity. Some masters 
 will  
   enslave their students, while others will set theirs free.
  
  Absolutely. Maharishi never forced His will on anyone, nor does 
 Lord 
  Maitreya ofcourse. Free will is a sacred principle by all real 
 Masters. 
  Mr. Creme's involvment is also on a 100% volountary basis. He was 
  politely ask to be a messengerboy and agreed. He has absolutely 
  nothing to gain in wordly matters by doing what he is doing; no 
 fees, 
  all proceeds from books goes directly and uncut to Share 
 International, 
  etcetc. He gets his travelexpenses covered and that's it. He is 
a  
  respected painter by profession. If you ask him I think he'd say 
he 
  would rather paint. He was politely asked to do this job and 
 agreed. 
  Simple.
  
  Just because someone, in this case petersuptken, heard about it 
in 
  the '80s doesn't mean it isn't real. I never met Charlie Lutes, 
but 
  from what I've read he was quite a loonie. Several persons on FFL 
 has 
  stated that Lutes had a rather liberal view regarding facts, to 
say 
 the 
  least. That this dr. peter reffers to Lutes as an authority on 
 Benjamin 
  Creme I find eh, rather peculiar.
  
  That Maitreya is about to reveal His real nature is obviously 
very 
  difficult for religious fundamentalists to swallow. Buddhist and 
  Christians alike. Vaj and the Turk are not alone in this 
 opposition, 
  actually most Buddhist are indoctrinated to believe that the Lord 
  Maitreya will not incarnate in 300.000 years from know. Another 
 myth 
  soon to be shattered.
  
  Time will reveal how involved Maharishi was in the work of 
 Maitreya. 
  One of who's most prominent Masters happens to be Brahmananda 
  Saraswathi. If you wondered why Mr. Creme's information caught my 
  attention in the first place, well now you know.
  
  Heaven will walk on earth, in this generation.
  - Maharishi
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi

[Peter]

My wife does a spot-on impression of Ramtha She won't do it for years and 
suddenly she'll stomp into a room like JZ Knight. Spouting all sorts of 
nonsense in new-age speak. Its hilarious.


--- On Wed, 7/16/08, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 1:45 PM
 -Ramtha was channeled by J.Z. Knight, one of the
 main New-Age so-
 called experts in the What the Bleep film. 
 Hagelin was also there 
 as a featured representative of the new physics. The
 Ramtha/Knight 
 popularity rapidly declined after she appeared to a group
 of gays and 
 told them they'd all be dead in 10 years.  That was
 about 20 years 
 ago. On the same level of incredibility as Creme's
 Maitreya.
   Wiki says:
 
 Teachings
 Ramtha is the central figure (the master
 teacher) of Ramtha's 
 School of Enlightenment, started by JZ Knight in 1987 in
 Yelm, 
 Washington. Classes (or dialogues) had been
 held around the world 
 for the previous ten years. A central theme of Ramtha's
 alleged 
 teachings involve the internalization of divinity (God is
 in Us, You 
 are God, Behold God, etc.). Ramtha is described as having
 brought his 
 knowledge to many ancient civilizations in the world such
 as the 
 Ancient Egyptians. The website also suggests that traces of
 the 
 lineage of the original teachings and philosophies he
 taught 35,000 
 years ago have appeared throughout history in the schools
 of 
 philosophers like Socrates, religions like Hinduism and
 Judaism, and 
 the works of great minds such as Leonardo da Vinci and
 Michelangelo.
 
 In Ramtha's system of thought, the material world —
 the densest plane 
 of existence — and the physical body are never regarded
 as evil, 
 undesirable, or intrinsically bad. A dualistic
 interpretation of 
 reality typically found in the gnostic traditions —
 emphasizing the 
 struggle between good and evil, light and darkness, sin and
 
 righteousness — is excluded in Ramtha's system of
 thought. What 
 becomes an undesirable condition is to remain in a state of
 ignorance 
 or denial as to our true nature and destiny.
 
 The four cornerstones of Ramtha's philosophy are:
 
 1. The statement 'You are God'
 2. The directive to make known the unknown
 3. The concept that consciousness and energy create the
 nature of 
 reality
 4. The challenge to conquer yourself
 
 
 
 Nature
 When Knight claims she is channelling Ramtha, she speaks
 only 
 English, although in an accented and sometimes simplistic
 way and has 
 expressed confusion about modern items (What is a
 carrot?, What 
 say you in this silver chariot? directed at a woman
 in a wheelchair 
 ['Ramtha', 1986]) while also professing intimate
 knowledge of worldly 
 affairs and conspiracies. During the channeling she behaves
 'manly', 
 with her chest puffed up talking in a deeper and stern
 voice, and 
 often seen smoking a pipe.[1]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --No connection.  Creme is an a-hole.  Maitreya
 hasn't appeared yet.
  MMY is the maha-teacher of TM.
  
  
  - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008
 no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
 vajradhatu@ wrote:

There have always been paths of freedom and
 paths of 
 enslavement, 
  so  
this is hardly new. Just the same old, same
 old pattern of 
 deep  
suffering overshadowing our innate
 authenticity. Some masters 
  will  
enslave their students, while others will
 set theirs free.
   
   Absolutely. Maharishi never forced His will on
 anyone, nor does 
  Lord 
   Maitreya ofcourse. Free will is a sacred
 principle by all real 
  Masters. 
   Mr. Creme's involvment is also on a 100%
 volountary basis. He was 
   politely ask to be a messengerboy and
 agreed. He has absolutely 
   nothing to gain in wordly matters by doing what
 he is doing; no 
  fees, 
   all proceeds from books goes directly and uncut
 to Share 
  International, 
   etcetc. He gets his travelexpenses covered and
 that's it. He is 
 a  
   respected painter by profession. If you ask him I
 think he'd say 
 he 
   would rather paint. He was politely asked to do
 this job and 
  agreed. 
   Simple.
   
   Just because someone, in this case petersuptken,
 heard about it 
 in 
   the '80s doesn't mean it isn't real.
 I never met Charlie Lutes, 
 but 
   from what I've read he was quite a loonie.
 Several persons on FFL 
  has 
   stated that Lutes had a rather liberal view
 regarding facts, to 
 say 
  the 
   least. That this dr. peter reffers to Lutes as an
 authority on 
  Benjamin 
   Creme I find eh, rather peculiar.
   
   That Maitreya is about to reveal His real nature
 is obviously 
 very 
   difficult for religious fundamentalists to
 swallow. Buddhist and 
   Christians alike. Vaj and the Turk are not alone
 in this 
  opposition, 
   actually most

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My wife does a spot-on impression of Ramtha She won't do 
 it for years and suddenly she'll stomp into a room like JZ 
 Knight. Spouting all sorts of nonsense in new-age speak. 
 Its hilarious.

When I lived in Sauve, I got ahold of a copy of
What the Bleep? because it was produced by 
someone I know. I invited Robert Crumb over to
see it, because he's occasionally interested in 
such things. He knew nothing about the film and
nothing about JZ Knight/Ramtha (and they hid that
well in the film). 

So he watched the film with us, and then after-
wards I asked him what he thought of it. He said,
Well I liked the one priest and a couple of the
science guys (not Hagelin), but who was that
woman who seemed to be possessed by Satan?

I cracked right up. He nailed it.


 --- On Wed, 7/16/08, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 1:45 PM
  -Ramtha was channeled by J.Z. Knight, one of the
  main New-Age so-
  called experts in the What the Bleep film. 
  Hagelin was also there 
  as a featured representative of the new physics. The
  Ramtha/Knight 
  popularity rapidly declined after she appeared to a group
  of gays and 
  told them they'd all be dead in 10 years.  That was
  about 20 years 
  ago. On the same level of incredibility as Creme's
  Maitreya.
Wiki says:
  
  Teachings
  Ramtha is the central figure (the master
  teacher) of Ramtha's 
  School of Enlightenment, started by JZ Knight in 1987 in
  Yelm, 
  Washington. Classes (or dialogues) had been
  held around the world 
  for the previous ten years. A central theme of Ramtha's
  alleged 
  teachings involve the internalization of divinity (God is
  in Us, You 
  are God, Behold God, etc.). Ramtha is described as having
  brought his 
  knowledge to many ancient civilizations in the world such
  as the 
  Ancient Egyptians. The website also suggests that traces of
  the 
  lineage of the original teachings and philosophies he
  taught 35,000 
  years ago have appeared throughout history in the schools
  of 
  philosophers like Socrates, religions like Hinduism and
  Judaism, and 
  the works of great minds such as Leonardo da Vinci and
  Michelangelo.
  
  In Ramtha's system of thought, the material world â€
  the densest plane 
  of existence †and the physical body are never regarded
  as evil, 
  undesirable, or intrinsically bad. A dualistic
  interpretation of 
  reality typically found in the gnostic traditions â€
  emphasizing the 
  struggle between good and evil, light and darkness, sin and
  
  righteousness †is excluded in Ramtha's system of
  thought. What 
  becomes an undesirable condition is to remain in a state of
  ignorance 
  or denial as to our true nature and destiny.
  
  The four cornerstones of Ramtha's philosophy are:
  
  1. The statement 'You are God'
  2. The directive to make known the unknown
  3. The concept that consciousness and energy create the
  nature of 
  reality
  4. The challenge to conquer yourself
  
  
  
  Nature
  When Knight claims she is channelling Ramtha, she speaks
  only 
  English, although in an accented and sometimes simplistic
  way and has 
  expressed confusion about modern items (What is a
  carrot?, What 
  say you in this silver chariot? directed at a woman
  in a wheelchair 
  ['Ramtha', 1986]) while also professing intimate
  knowledge of worldly 
  affairs and conspiracies. During the channeling she behaves
  'manly', 
  with her chest puffed up talking in a deeper and stern
  voice, and 
  often seen smoking a pipe.[1]
  
  
  
  
  
  
  -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero
  yifuxero@ wrote:
  
   --No connection.  Creme is an a-hole.  Maitreya
  hasn't appeared yet.
   MMY is the maha-teacher of TM.
   
   
   - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008
  no_reply@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
  vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
 There have always been paths of freedom and
  paths of 
  enslavement, 
   so  
 this is hardly new. Just the same old, same
  old pattern of 
  deep  
 suffering overshadowing our innate
  authenticity. Some masters 
   will  
 enslave their students, while others will
  set theirs free.

Absolutely. Maharishi never forced His will on
  anyone, nor does 
   Lord 
Maitreya ofcourse. Free will is a sacred
  principle by all real 
   Masters. 
Mr. Creme's involvment is also on a 100%
  volountary basis. He was 
politely ask to be a messengerboy and
  agreed. He has absolutely 
nothing to gain in wordly matters by doing what
  he is doing; no 
   fees, 
all proceeds from books goes directly and uncut
  to Share 
   International, 
etcetc. He gets his travelexpenses covered and
  that's it. He is 
  a  
respected painter by profession. If you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
  Heaven will walk on earth, in this generation.
  - Maharishi
 
 Nabs, you have a very low criteria for what qualifies as fact. My 
criteria is more grounded in direct experiential reality than 
imagination. I mention Charlie Lutes as someone very close with MMY and 
someone people used to bring their more esoteric questions to. 

Your direct experimental reality is of no use as you take Charlie 
Lutes as your measure of accountability.

Lutes as close to MMY ? What a joke ! Maharishi cut off that nutcase, 
as you know very well. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi

[yifuxero]

--Nab, you have a point; but the bottom line is the paucity of 
information regarding the existence of a physical Maitreya.  Apart 
from that phoney doctored photo of him supposedly in Africa; let's 
see the rest of the photos.  There are hundreds of ph. of MMY, if not 
thousands; with countless people seeing him physically.  Where are 
the eyewitnesses to the physical presence of Maitreya?  Where are the 
photos?  Get a life.



- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:

   Heaven will walk on earth, in this generation.
   - Maharishi
  
  Nabs, you have a very low criteria for what qualifies as fact. My 
 criteria is more grounded in direct experiential reality than 
 imagination. I mention Charlie Lutes as someone very close with MMY 
and 
 someone people used to bring their more esoteric questions to. 
 
 Your direct experimental reality is of no use as you take Charlie 
 Lutes as your measure of accountability.
 
 Lutes as close to MMY ? What a joke ! Maharishi cut off that 
nutcase, 
 as you know very well.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi

[Peter]

--- On Wed, 7/16/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 3:48 PM
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Heaven will walk on earth, in this
 generation.
   - Maharishi
  
  Nabs, you have a very low criteria for what qualifies
 as fact. My 
 criteria is more grounded in direct experiential reality
 than 
 imagination. I mention Charlie Lutes as someone very close
 with MMY and 
 someone people used to bring their more esoteric questions
 to. 
 
 Your direct experimental reality is of no use
 as you take Charlie 
 Lutes as your measure of accountability.
 
 Lutes as close to MMY ? What a joke ! Maharishi cut off
 that nutcase, 
 as you know very well. 

Nabs, don't disrespect a wonderful man that was dearly loved by so many people. 
He was everyones Dutch uncle. By the way, the term is experiential, not 
experimental.




 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Nabs, don't disrespect a wonderful man that was dearly loved by so 
many people. He was everyones Dutch uncle. By the way, the term 
is experiential, not experimental.

Sorry mate but you come across as someone who is more experimental than 
experiental. Liking Dutch Uncles is really not a part of my 
vocabulary. But if you like such; good for you ! Does your wife 
approve ?
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi

[Peter]

--- On Wed, 7/16/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 4:53 PM
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Nabs, don't disrespect a wonderful man that was
 dearly loved by so 
 many people. He was everyones Dutch uncle. By the way, the
 term 
 is experiential, not experimental.
 
 Sorry mate but you come across as someone who is more
 experimental than 
 experiental. Liking Dutch Uncles is really not
 a part of my 
 vocabulary. But if you like such; good for you ! Does your
 wife 
 approve ?

Nabs, I knew it wasn't part of your vocabulary, but I'm sure there's an 
equivalent in Swedish (are you Swedish, Danish, Russian, Finish, Voltian, I 
don't know!) Charlie was a spiritual Dutch uncle.



  
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi

[Vaj]

On Jul 16, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Peter wrote:

 My wife does a spot-on impression of Ramtha She won't do it for  
 years and suddenly she'll stomp into a room like JZ Knight. Spouting  
 all sorts of nonsense in new-age speak. Its hilarious.


It's interesting to me that the famous trance channelers and gurus,  
few of the western ones are homely--they're almost all babes, and JZ  
Knight is (or was) drop dead gorgeous. The only reason she was  
remotely interesting to listen to (other than for the obvious  
entertainment value) was she was just such a babe-a-licious babbler.  
Kind of a Doris Day from Atlantis.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi

[yifuxero]

---True. But in the Bleep movie she looks overly botoxed (on top of a 
few facelifts); far more so than Hillary.


 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Jul 16, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Peter wrote:
 
  My wife does a spot-on impression of Ramtha She won't do it for  
  years and suddenly she'll stomp into a room like JZ Knight. 
Spouting  
  all sorts of nonsense in new-age speak. Its hilarious.
 
 
 It's interesting to me that the famous trance channelers and gurus,  
 few of the western ones are homely--they're almost all babes, and JZ  
 Knight is (or was) drop dead gorgeous. The only reason she was  
 remotely interesting to listen to (other than for the obvious  
 entertainment value) was she was just such a babe-a-licious babbler.  
 Kind of a Doris Day from Atlantis.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi

[Vaj]

Channeling not only causes vata derrangement over time according to  
Ayurveda, but it can also effect the mental life and your overall  
health. It's not unusual to die from weird vata illnesses due to the  
constant shift in personality and psychophysiology--which has a  
different immune system and everything--from the human host. You see  
the same thing in Multiple Personality Disorder where the individual  
personalities have their own allergies, health issues, etc.


On Jul 16, 2008, at 7:11 PM, yifuxero wrote:

 ---True. But in the Bleep movie she looks overly botoxed (on top  
 of a
 few facelifts); far more so than Hillary.