[FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and TM, in the Marketplace

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Good example of the consideration locked in stock TM preparatory lecture 
material as the all or nothing critique.  TM starts early asserting that other 
meditations are a waste of time. 
 The TM research even from way back gets used to co-opt the discussion of 
meditations
 trying to define what is deep or surface. Think of Keith's Scientific American 
paper with the oxygen graph that was used with good sales effect back then 
against the Zen Buddhist that was comparative.
 And, R's life is certainly vested in TM this way now. Like some other TM 
researchers and intellectuals as they  possibly understand things they are hot 
on it.
 TM fights now for market share against what is the more dominant market force 
in popular culture of Buddhism/ mindfulness by denigration of other practices. 
 I feel it is wonderful you are so passionate about TM. 
 I am too with some respect and appreciation for other spiritual practices 
also. TM is a great asset to have in spiritual practice.
 Hopefully we TM'ers can get along with other spiritual peoples, like practiced 
mindfulness meditators too.
 -JGD 

 

 A simple google search for Mindfulness and Buddhism.. 
 

 Mindfulness is the psychological process of bringing one's attention to 
experiences occurring in the present moment, which can be developed through the 
practice of meditation and other training. The term "mindfulness" is a 
translation of the Pali term sati, which is a significant element of Buddhist 
traditions.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 just watched that clip again, there is zero disparaging Buddhism there.
most Buddhists say that mindfulness is shorn of any connection to Buddhism, 
there is Christians who are trying to spread panic that mindfulness is stealth 
Buddhism, there is Buddhists who complain that mindfulness is appropriation.
If anyone is stuck on disparaging it is you. You love to disparage all sorts of 
good people when it serves absolutely no purpose and is even pointless, 
destructive and does not help your goals.
TMers have every good reason to point of the valid and scientifically verified 
differences between TM and Mindfulness which are very often muddled together in 
popular media. Those differences have been validated and highlighted by highly 
esteemed professionals like Dr Norman Rosenthal who have no vested interest in 
TM teaching.

  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and TM, in the Marketplace

[srijau]

just watched that clip again, there is zero disparaging Buddhism there.
most Buddhists say that mindfulness is shorn of any connection to Buddhism, 
there is Christians who are trying to spread panic that mindfulness is stealth 
Buddhism, there is Buddhists who complain that mindfulness is appropriation.
If anyone is stuck on disparaging it is you. You love to disparage all sorts of 
good people when it serves absolutely no purpose and is even pointless, 
destructive and does not help your goals.
TMers have every good reason to point of the valid and scientifically verified 
differences between TM and Mindfulness which are very often muddled together in 
popular media. Those differences have been validated and highlighted by highly 
esteemed professionals like Dr Norman Rosenthal who have no vested interest in 
TM teaching.