[FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Maharishi's comments on the economy quoted by Bevan Morris snip In the financial community, there are many rating agencies, Standard and Poors, Moodys, etc. Maharishi didn't like this. 'Moodys is too moody...' Everyone relies on this but then the paper that was so reliable is not, and then they change the rating, 'its not triple-A, its junk.' Maharishi saw this as ludicrous; it has to change. Note the Maheshism Moodys is too moody. Another example of where he talks like a psychopath. (Read Robert Hare, Without Conscience). FWIW. That is the beauty of the world-- anyone, from any state of consciousness, low or high, can assert and prove anything in their world; the Maharishi asserts that Moodys is too moody, and you assert that he is a psychopath. Both are true, neither are true.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation
On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:06 AM, Peter wrote: Narcissistic traits, yes, but not anti-social. Let's look at this a little closer. What are the traits of Anti-Social Personality DIsorder and which ones have been clearly observed in the Maharishi? The diagnostic criteria for Anti-Social Personality DIsorder are: Three or more of the following are required:[1] 1. Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest; Mahesh Varma, the so-called Maharishi was a fugitive from numerous countries with a long history of criminal activities. 2. Deceitfulness, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure; A big yes on this one as well. 3. Impulsivity or failure to plan ahead; Wanna buy some farmland in Kansas? How about a theme park gone awry in central Florida? 4. Irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults; This is probably the only one that DOESN'T apply to the Big Reesh, although irritability is a biggie in the last decade or so of his life. 5. Reckless disregard for safety of self or others; Well duh. More people were killed from TM related side effects and programs than any other meditation technique in known history. 6. Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations; Not sure on this one, but certainly paritially. 7. Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another. Big time on this one. So, does he have at least three of these criteria? YES. He has at least six!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation
--- On Thu, 10/9/08, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 9:49 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishi's comments on the economy quoted by Bevan Morris snip In the financial community, there are many rating agencies, Standard and Poors, Moodys, etc. Maharishi didn't like this. 'Moodys is too moody...' Everyone relies on this but then the paper that was so reliable is not, and then they change the rating, 'its not triple-A, its junk.' Maharishi saw this as ludicrous; it has to change. Note the Maheshism Moodys is too moody. Another example of where he talks like a psychopath. (Read Robert Hare, Without Conscience). FWIW. Maharishi did not have psychopathic traits. Narcissistic traits, yes, but not anti-social. The superficial similarity comes about due to the apparent lack of empathy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:06 AM, Peter wrote: Narcissistic traits, yes, but not anti-social. Let's look at this a little closer. What are the traits of Anti-Social Personality DIsorder and which ones have been clearly observed in the Maharishi? The diagnostic criteria for Anti-Social Personality DIsorder are: 6. Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations; Not sure on this one, but certainly paritially. Definitely, think of how many grand schemes and plans Marshy had that got abandoned after five minutes. It's amazing that so much work was put into everything just to have it dropped for another big idea almost immediately sometimes. I asked a TM teacher why they never stuck to anything and just went along with it all and he said that MMY could sense natural law changing and could adjust the plans accordingly. Therefore, what may seem like a chronicly attention span is actually the best way forward for everyone. I always thought that explanation was somewhat unconvincing.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation
On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:06 AM, Peter wrote: Note the Maheshism Moodys is too moody. Another example of where he talks like a psychopath. (Read Robert Hare, Without Conscience). FWIW. Maharishi did not have psychopathic traits. Narcissistic traits, yes, but not anti-social. The superficial similarity comes about due to the apparent lack of empathy. I'm thinking Ruth might be using the dictionary definition not the clinical one you are familiar with: a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal or violent social behavior. In this case, it fits perfectly a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal social behavior. Let's not forget Mahesh was quite obviously also well known for his delusions of grandeur which is a quality of megalomania.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked a TM teacher why they never stuck to anything and just went along with it all and he said that MMY could sense natural law changing and could adjust the plans accordingly. Therefore, what may seem like a chronicly attention span is actually the best way forward for everyone. I always thought that explanation was somewhat unconvincing. Most of these people in the TMO, including quite a few on Purusha can not sit so they have to run Maharishi kept them busy on neverending new projects since they were to rajasic to spend long hours in meditation. Instead of forcing them to do something which was difficult, He kept them off the streets by giving them new projects to play with.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo wrote: I asked a TM teacher why they never stuck to anything and just went along with it all and he said that MMY could sense natural law changing and could adjust the plans accordingly. In the mid-1990s I asked a Purusha member why we were placing in the Post-Dispatch one of those full-page, us-talking-to- ourselves newspaper ads about quantum physics and consciousness. He shrugged and said, It's just ghee on the fire, as if to say, It appears to be a waste, but it's supposed to do some good, so I do it. I thought that was a pretty good attitude. It also showed why I would never have been happy on Purusha.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking Ruth might be using the dictionary definition not the clinical one you are familiar with: a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal or violent social behavior. In this case, it fits perfectly a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal social behavior. Let's not forget Mahesh was quite obviously also well known for his delusions of grandeur which is a quality of megalomania. Actually, I'd be more willing to suspect that Maharishi was a classic case of bipolar disorder. He was at times very charming and engaging. He picked up projects in which he would work himself and others nearly to death then drop them as though they had never existed. He had bouts of paranoia and quite a temper. His rantings about Damn America, Damn Bush struck me as the ravings of someone suffering from bipolar disorder. When Maharishi fell out of love for you, you knew it. All symptoms.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation
On Oct 10, 2008, at 1:59 PM, The Secret wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking Ruth might be using the dictionary definition not the clinical one you are familiar with: a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal or violent social behavior. In this case, it fits perfectly a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal social behavior. Let's not forget Mahesh was quite obviously also well known for his delusions of grandeur which is a quality of megalomania. Actually, I'd be more willing to suspect that Maharishi was a classic case of bipolar disorder. He was at times very charming and engaging. He picked up projects in which he would work himself and others nearly to death then drop them as though they had never existed. He had bouts of paranoia and quite a temper. His rantings about Damn America, Damn Bush struck me as the ravings of someone suffering from bipolar disorder. When Maharishi fell out of love for you, you knew it. All symptoms. Interesting possibility, but it just doesn't ring true for me. I would be more likely to suspect some combination of personality disorders.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishi's comments on the economy quoted by Bevan Morris snip In the financial community, there are many rating agencies, Standard and Poors, Moodys, etc. Maharishi didn't like this. 'Moodys is too moody...' Everyone relies on this but then the paper that was so reliable is not, and then they change the rating, 'its not triple-A, its junk.' Maharishi saw this as ludicrous; it has to change. Note the Maheshism Moodys is too moody. Another example of where he talks like a psychopath. (Read Robert Hare, Without Conscience). FWIW.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Maharishi's comments on the economy quoted by Bevan Morris snip In the financial community, there are many rating agencies, Standard and Poors, Moodys, etc. Maharishi didn't like this. 'Moodys is too moody...' Everyone relies on this but then the paper that was so reliable is not, and then they change the rating, 'its not triple-A, its junk.' Maharishi saw this as ludicrous; it has to change. Note the Maheshism Moodys is too moody. Another example of where he talks like a psychopath. (Read Robert Hare, Without Conscience). FWIW. He likes puns so that makes him sound like a psychopath? Lawson
