[FairfieldLife] Re: Prime Minster Dr Bevan Morris reported on recent advances in the Movement.
Maybe if you read some of the research on the neurolinguistic effects of myth and ritual for example HOW GOD CHANGES YOUR BRAIN by Andrew newberg M.D. and Mark Robert Waldman), Joseph Campbell, Jung, Bandler and Grinder, and others, you might be able to understand the relationship between religious ritual and science. But Oh! I forgot, you aren't really interested in knowing about anything, only criticizing others. I still can't understand why you post to this list. Wouldn't a list that's more your persuasion be appropriate. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Oct 30, 2011, at 5:43 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: Maharishi's Global Family Chat Summary October 28, 2011 Prime Minster Dr Bevan Morris reported on recent advances in the Movement. Dr Morris began by commenting on how powerful the three Vedic performances were on the 24th, 25th, and 26th in enlivening the qualities of Dhanvantari, Hanuman and Mahalakshmi. Well thank god it had nothing to do with Hinduism. This sounds so scientific. I wonder if it affected experiments at LHC? One can almost feel the effect - at the subtle level - the god particles radiating off the pundits. Jai Guru Bev!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prime Minster Dr Bevan Morris reported on recent advances in the Movement.
On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:03 PM, johnt wrote: Maybe if you read some of the research on the neurolinguistic effects of myth and ritual for example HOW GOD CHANGES YOUR BRAIN by Andrew newberg M.D. and Mark Robert Waldman), Joseph Campbell, Jung, Bandler and Grinder, and others, you might be able to understand the relationship between religious ritual and science. But Oh! I forgot, you aren't really interested in knowing about anything, only criticizing others. I still can't understand why you post to this list. Wouldn't a list that's more your persuasion be appropriate. History and repeatability is all I need to know that worship of gods or goddesses simply leads to incredible suffering. Pick up the paper, you can see on an almost daily basis how it torments the planet. Once we isolate the god genes better, hopefully we'll eventually be able to eradicate this disease through selective abortion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Prime Minster Dr Bevan Morris reported on recent advances in the Movement.
Apart from Gods and Goddesses, how about devotion to Buddhas, Bodhisattvas, and Yidams:??; as well as entities designed to generate specific changes such as the Green Tara - say eradicating diseases and eliminating poverty. Why are such Buddhist practices excused from your criticisms, Vaj? How about life after physical death? Are you a believer in that? http://www.purelandbuddhism.com/amitabha.JPG --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:03 PM, johnt wrote: Maybe if you read some of the research on the neurolinguistic effects of myth and ritual for example HOW GOD CHANGES YOUR BRAIN by Andrew newberg M.D. and Mark Robert Waldman), Joseph Campbell, Jung, Bandler and Grinder, and others, you might be able to understand the relationship between religious ritual and science. But Oh! I forgot, you aren't really interested in knowing about anything, only criticizing others. I still can't understand why you post to this list. Wouldn't a list that's more your persuasion be appropriate. History and repeatability is all I need to know that worship of gods or goddesses simply leads to incredible suffering. Pick up the paper, you can see on an almost daily basis how it torments the planet. Once we isolate the god genes better, hopefully we'll eventually be able to eradicate this disease through selective abortion.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prime Minster Dr Bevan Morris reported on recent advances in the Movement.
On Oct 31, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Yifu wrote: Apart from Gods and Goddesses, how about devotion to Buddhas, Bodhisattvas, and Yidams:??; as well as entities designed to generate specific changes such as the Green Tara - say eradicating diseases and eliminating poverty. Why are such Buddhist practices excused from your criticisms, Vaj? How about life after physical death? Are you a believer in that? There's authentic devotion and then there's fabricated devotion. IME fabricated devotion to any thing is of little help. Such fabricated devotion is what religion is all about. Authentically a buddha is none other than ones own natural condition.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Prime Minster Dr Bevan Morris reported on recent advances in the Movement.
Lapse of logic on your part, Vaj. Your'e saying that devotion to the Buddha (the wisdom orientation) is authentic and not fabricated; but you failed to feature how devotion to the Green Taras fits in since She's worshipped for various other reasons besides wisdom: for example, eradicating diseases, counteracting disasters and bad karma in general, eliminating poverty, etc. So from your perspective, devotion to the Green Tara is fabricated. Interesting. Nice that you alone determine what and whom is Authentic. ... My Buddhist teacher Hsuan Hua worshipped Kwan Yin for the wisdom aspect AND for counteracting evil influences (he says). So he would be a fabricated teacher in your book, and inauthentic? http://www.exoticindiaart.com/artimages/ze32.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Oct 31, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Yifu wrote: Apart from Gods and Goddesses, how about devotion to Buddhas, Bodhisattvas, and Yidams:??; as well as entities designed to generate specific changes such as the Green Tara - say eradicating diseases and eliminating poverty. Why are such Buddhist practices excused from your criticisms, Vaj? How about life after physical death? Are you a believer in that? There's authentic devotion and then there's fabricated devotion. IME fabricated devotion to any thing is of little help. Such fabricated devotion is what religion is all about. Authentically a buddha is none other than ones own natural condition.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Prime Minster Dr Bevan Morris reported on recent advances in the Movement.
Try and read ken Wilber to understand they ways in which people worship When there are problems it's from the more mythic fundamentalist levels, not understanding these practices as neurolinguistics. Do some actual research. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:03 PM, johnt wrote: Maybe if you read some of the research on the neurolinguistic effects of myth and ritual for example HOW GOD CHANGES YOUR BRAIN by Andrew newberg M.D. and Mark Robert Waldman), Joseph Campbell, Jung, Bandler and Grinder, and others, you might be able to understand the relationship between religious ritual and science. But Oh! I forgot, you aren't really interested in knowing about anything, only criticizing others. I still can't understand why you post to this list. Wouldn't a list that's more your persuasion be appropriate. History and repeatability is all I need to know that worship of gods or goddesses simply leads to incredible suffering. Pick up the paper, you can see on an almost daily basis how it torments the planet. Once we isolate the god genes better, hopefully we'll eventually be able to eradicate this disease through selective abortion.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prime Minster Dr Bevan Morris reported on recent advances in the Movement.
If you've read my posts, I think you'll find I'm quite familiar with KW. Science can be used as a fundie mythos as well. In India it's been common for decades for blue meme right-wing Hindutva fundies to use physics and science in general to promote their agendas... Mahesh was just a more recent version, with better marketing skills. But he was still a hardcore rightwinger fundie, promoting a mythic Vedism which is mostly fiction. Vedic Creation science is still Creation Science... On Oct 31, 2011, at 8:04 PM, johnt johnlasher20002...@yahoo.com wrote: Try and read ken Wilber to understand they ways in which people worship When there are problems it's from the more mythic fundamentalist levels, not understanding these practices as neurolinguistics. Do some actual research.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Prime Minster Dr Bevan Morris reported on recent advances in the Movement.
It's obvious you are incapable of understanding the implications of the research so never mind --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: If you've read my posts, I think you'll find I'm quite familiar with KW. Science can be used as a fundie mythos as well. In India it's been common for decades for blue meme right-wing Hindutva fundies to use physics and science in general to promote their agendas... Mahesh was just a more recent version, with better marketing skills. But he was still a hardcore rightwinger fundie, promoting a mythic Vedism which is mostly fiction. Vedic Creation science is still Creation Science... On Oct 31, 2011, at 8:04 PM, johnt johnlasher20002000@... wrote: Try and read ken Wilber to understand they ways in which people worship When there are problems it's from the more mythic fundamentalist levels, not understanding these practices as neurolinguistics. Do some actual research.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Prime Minster Dr Bevan Morris reported on recent advances in the Movement.
Good stuff! Thanks for the update. We'll soon be hearing from Haj about how the current Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math was poisoned by some old food that Maharishi sent him before he died, causing the Shankaracharya to mis-dial the phone, mistakenly calling Raja Ram, instead of the local drugstore. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Maharishi's Global Family Chat Summary October 28, 2011 Prime Minster Dr Bevan Morris reported on recent advances in the Movement. Dr Morris began by commenting on how powerful the three Vedic performances were on the 24th, 25th, and 26th in enlivening the qualities of Dhanvantari, Hanuman and Mahalakshmi. The Vedic Pandits have become very mature and dignified in their glorious role of reciting softly in the low and slow way Maharishi trained them. So they are Self-referral when reciting the nitya and apaurusheya (eternal and uncreated) sounds of Veda. Maharishi said the Pandits provide a `turnkey operation' for bringing heaven on earth they unlock the special evolutionary quality of the day for the whole world, so we can accomplish in a few hours what would otherwise take a long time. For example on Mahalakshmi day the quality of wealth, affluence, and success is awakened on the physical, mental and spiritual levels for the whole world, and it happened that the European leaders found a solution to the economic problems on Mahalakshmi day after many months of trying. The indications of a great change in the fortune of the world have been increasing lately: Shankaracharya Maharaj of Jyotir Math telephoned Maharaja Raam on Mahalakshmi day to give his blessings to everyone in the whole family of the Global Country of World Peace The first courses have begun in the Brahmasthan (geographical centre) of India. The new course of listening to the Vedic sounds while watching the model of Veda in human physiology has been an extraordinary and unexpected success at Maharishi University of Management, USA. People are having wonderful experiences of higher states of consciousness and healing of old health problems. The first course had 50 people, and the 5th course had 350, with people unable to fit into the hall. What was thought to have been developed by Maharishi as a teaching aid turns out to be a powerful technique for enlightenment. The course will be offered at Meru by Drs Alaric and Cynthia Arenander in December. Experiences of higher states of consciousness also continue to grow and refine in the Invincible America Assembly, leading the way for enlightenment for each of us and for world peace. The Purusha Capital of the Western World in West Virginia, USA, is ready for occupation within a week. It has been a huge work of dedication and the presence of the Purusha group close to the capital, Washington D.C., will have a beneficial effect for America. Purusha held their 30th Anniversary recently, during which Raja Luis offered three pieces of news that took place on that auspicious day: ETA formally renounced violence. The government of a major country in Latin America undertook to train and support a professional group of 1,500 Yogic Flyers the square root of 1% of the population to create invincibility for the nation. President Chissano announced that he will re-establish the group of Yogic Flyers for Mozambique, and then he will visit other heads of state and tell them to do the same for their nations. Raja Luis also gave the news that a delegation from the congress of Brazil visited Maharishi Free School in the UK. They were so impressed by the quality of education, and above all by the quality of the young students, that they signed an agreement for all the students of one state of their nation to learn Transcendental Meditation about a million students. Dr Morris said that every country should invite their government to send a delegation to the UK school or to the Maharishi School in the USA. It is the taste, the experience, that really impresses people and changes their perception. Some very good guests have visited the MUM/Maharishi Vedic City/Fairfield community recently, including a top Indian leader. It very quickly becomes clear from visitors' interactions with students, and the experience of meditating in the Golden Domes, that Maharishi created a new civilization there that is not only supporting enlightened individuals, but is also transforming the nation by raising the collective consciousness. A visit to the school also makes it clear that a new generation is coming that is born for this knowledge and reality. NEW SERVICE now available for Maharishi Channel 3 on the iPad and iPhone. Subscribe here. See the Maharishi Global Family Chat summaries online Visit the Maharishi's Global Family Chat Archives Contribute to
[FairfieldLife] Re: Prime Minster Dr Bevan Morris reported on recent advances in the Movement.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Good stuff! Thanks for the update. We'll soon be hearing from Haj about how the current Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math was poisoned by some old food that Maharishi sent him before he died, causing the Shankaracharya to mis-dial the phone, mistakenly calling Raja Ram, instead of the local drugstore. HeHe :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Maharishi's Global Family Chat Summary October 28, 2011 Prime Minster Dr Bevan Morris reported on recent advances in the Movement. Dr Morris began by commenting on how powerful the three Vedic performances were on the 24th, 25th, and 26th in enlivening the qualities of Dhanvantari, Hanuman and Mahalakshmi. The Vedic Pandits have become very mature and dignified in their glorious role of reciting softly in the low and slow way Maharishi trained them. So they are Self-referral when reciting the nitya and apaurusheya (eternal and uncreated) sounds of Veda. Maharishi said the Pandits provide a `turnkey operation' for bringing heaven on earth they unlock the special evolutionary quality of the day for the whole world, so we can accomplish in a few hours what would otherwise take a long time. For example on Mahalakshmi day the quality of wealth, affluence, and success is awakened on the physical, mental and spiritual levels for the whole world, and it happened that the European leaders found a solution to the economic problems on Mahalakshmi day after many months of trying. The indications of a great change in the fortune of the world have been increasing lately: Shankaracharya Maharaj of Jyotir Math telephoned Maharaja Raam on Mahalakshmi day to give his blessings to everyone in the whole family of the Global Country of World Peace The first courses have begun in the Brahmasthan (geographical centre) of India. The new course of listening to the Vedic sounds while watching the model of Veda in human physiology has been an extraordinary and unexpected success at Maharishi University of Management, USA. People are having wonderful experiences of higher states of consciousness and healing of old health problems. The first course had 50 people, and the 5th course had 350, with people unable to fit into the hall. What was thought to have been developed by Maharishi as a teaching aid turns out to be a powerful technique for enlightenment. The course will be offered at Meru by Drs Alaric and Cynthia Arenander in December. Experiences of higher states of consciousness also continue to grow and refine in the Invincible America Assembly, leading the way for enlightenment for each of us and for world peace. The Purusha Capital of the Western World in West Virginia, USA, is ready for occupation within a week. It has been a huge work of dedication and the presence of the Purusha group close to the capital, Washington D.C., will have a beneficial effect for America. Purusha held their 30th Anniversary recently, during which Raja Luis offered three pieces of news that took place on that auspicious day: ETA formally renounced violence. The government of a major country in Latin America undertook to train and support a professional group of 1,500 Yogic Flyers the square root of 1% of the population to create invincibility for the nation. President Chissano announced that he will re-establish the group of Yogic Flyers for Mozambique, and then he will visit other heads of state and tell them to do the same for their nations. Raja Luis also gave the news that a delegation from the congress of Brazil visited Maharishi Free School in the UK. They were so impressed by the quality of education, and above all by the quality of the young students, that they signed an agreement for all the students of one state of their nation to learn Transcendental Meditation about a million students. Dr Morris said that every country should invite their government to send a delegation to the UK school or to the Maharishi School in the USA. It is the taste, the experience, that really impresses people and changes their perception. Some very good guests have visited the MUM/Maharishi Vedic City/Fairfield community recently, including a top Indian leader. It very quickly becomes clear from visitors' interactions with students, and the experience of meditating in the Golden Domes, that Maharishi created a new civilization there that is not only supporting enlightened individuals, but is also transforming the nation by raising the collective consciousness. A visit to the school also makes it clear that a new generation is coming that is born for this knowledge and reality. NEW SERVICE now available
