[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara's native language?

2009-02-17 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote:

 
 It seems to me that Shankara's native language
 might have been the Dravidian(?) malayalam.
 
 Any comments?


Oh shucks! Malayalam prolly wasn't a separate language
in Shankara's life time:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayalam



[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara's native language?

2009-02-17 Thread vskamala
Tanil  Samskrit maybe?

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wrote:

 Well, since I haven't chatted with him recently.;-)
 
 
 --- On Tue, 2/17/09, cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
  From: cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Shankara's native language?
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 6:59 AM
  It seems to me that Shankara's native language
  might have been the Dravidian(?) malayalam.
  
  Any comments?
  
  
  
  
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara's native language?

2006-04-05 Thread anon_astute_ff
Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
 The first and original Shankara is Lord Shiva - the Adi Shankara.
 Shankara in his lifetime was referred to as Acharya Shree.

Pardon... but how do you know this for sure?
Are you suggesting it is incorrect to refer to Shankara as Adi Shankara?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara's native language?

2006-04-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
  The first and original Shankara is Lord Shiva - the Adi 
  Shankara. Shankara in his lifetime was referred to as 
  Acharya Shree.
 
anon_astute_ff wrote:
 Pardon... but how do you know this for sure?

One of my teachers, Swami Prakashanand Saraswati, a direct desciple of
Guru Dev, told me so. He's a pundit and a bhakta - very learned.

 Are you suggesting it is incorrect to refer to Shankara as 
 Adi Shankara?

No, not if you're a scholar or an author, but if you're a devotee,
you'd refer to the master as Acharya Shree or Guru Dev, and reserve
the Adi for Lord Shiva, the original Shankara. Most likely, devotees
during Shankaracharya's lifetime would have addressed him as 'Shree'
using their native language, probably a dialect of Malayam.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara's native language?

2006-04-05 Thread hanumanhoffman9
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

   The first and original Shankara is Lord Shiva - the Adi 
   Shankara. Shankara in his lifetime was referred to as 
   Acharya Shree.
  
 anon_astute_ff wrote:
  Pardon... but how do you know this for sure?
 
 One of my teachers, Swami Prakashanand Saraswati, a direct desciple of
 Guru Dev, told me so. He's a pundit and a bhakta - very learned.
 
  Are you suggesting it is incorrect to refer to Shankara as 
  Adi Shankara?
 
 No, not if you're a scholar or an author, but if you're a devotee,
 you'd refer to the master as Acharya Shree or Guru Dev, and reserve
 the Adi for Lord Shiva, the original Shankara. Most likely, devotees
 during Shankaracharya's lifetime would have addressed him as 'Shree'
 using their native language, probably a dialect of Malayam.


My Preceptor, Sri Ganapathi Sachchidananda Swamiji has often referred to that 
great 
philosopher as Adi Shankara.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara's native language?

2006-04-04 Thread anon_astute_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  
   
   In my understanding Shrii Shankara is thought
   to have been born somewhere in the southern
   parts of India. 
  
  Kerala
  
   If that's the case, I wonder how likely 
   it is that his native language was one of the 
   Dravidian languages of southern India.
  
  http://www.ancientscripts.com/grantha.html ?
  (Depends on the time you assume he lived)
 
 
 I've always wondered why the first Shankara would be called the 
 original one WHILE he was alive, but who knows...

Why would you presume that he was called Adi Shankara while he walked the earth?








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara's native language?

2006-04-04 Thread anon_astute_ff
  
 In a message dated 4/3/06 4:40:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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 my  understanding Shrii Shankara is thought
 to have been born somewhere in the  southern
 parts of India. If that's the case, I wonder how likely 
 it is  that his native language was one of the 
 Dravidian languages of southern  India.
 
 
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 Ebonics?

Foolish thinking.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara's native language?

2006-04-04 Thread anon_astute_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In my understanding Shrii Shankara is thought
 to have been born somewhere in the southern
 parts of India. If that's the case, I wonder how likely 
 it is that his native language was one of the 
 Dravidian languages of southern India.

As Lord Siva incarnate mastering the Vedas by age 3, maybe his native tongue 
was the 
sound of Veda. If this is the case what language would be unknown to him?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara's native language?

2006-04-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
sparaig wrote:
 I've always wondered why the first Shankara would be called 
 the original one WHILE he was alive, but who knows...


The first and original Shankara is Lord Shiva - the Adi Shankara.
Shankara in his lifetime was referred to as Acharya Shree.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara's native language?

2006-04-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
anon_astute_ff wrote:
 As Lord Siva incarnate mastering the Vedas by age 3, 
 maybe his native tongue was the sound of Veda.

Maybe, but the native language of Shankaracharya was probably
Malayalam. Malayalam is the principal language of the South Indian
state of Kerala.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara's native language?

2006-04-04 Thread sparaig
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ 
  wrote:
   

In my understanding Shrii Shankara is thought
to have been born somewhere in the southern
parts of India. 
   
   Kerala
   
If that's the case, I wonder how likely 
it is that his native language was one of the 
Dravidian languages of southern India.
   
   http://www.ancientscripts.com/grantha.html ?
   (Depends on the time you assume he lived)
  
  
  I've always wondered why the first Shankara would be called the 
  original one WHILE he was alive, but who knows...
 
 Why would you presume that he was called Adi Shankara while he 
walked the earth?


Seems to me that I read it somewhere. When didthe title become 
commonplace?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara's native language?

2006-04-03 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In my understanding Shrii Shankara is thought
 to have been born somewhere in the southern
 parts of India. 

Kerala

 If that's the case, I wonder how likely 
 it is that his native language was one of the 
 Dravidian languages of southern India.

http://www.ancientscripts.com/grantha.html ?
(Depends on the time you assume he lived)






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara's native language?

2006-04-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  
  In my understanding Shrii Shankara is thought
  to have been born somewhere in the southern
  parts of India. 
 
 Kerala
 
  If that's the case, I wonder how likely 
  it is that his native language was one of the 
  Dravidian languages of southern India.
 
 http://www.ancientscripts.com/grantha.html ?
 (Depends on the time you assume he lived)


I've always wondered why the first Shankara would be called the 
original one WHILE he was alive, but who knows...





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