Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
I'm reviewing backwards and deleting so just got to thisI won't be doing TM. I have been exploring the concept of what "separating the message from the messenger" feels like. When it comes to "spirituality" I simply can't separate these fully enough to sign up with anyone or any group who claims to know the answer or have the answer. The "hypocritical" and "hypocrisy" tapes start to run in my brain. Objectively, I think TM would greatly benefit me as a technique...but I can't get past the rest of it if I am truly honest with myself...so if I did shell out the money, it would be wasted. I have never believed that there is only one way, however, and there are many choices of meditation technique available. Thanks for answering. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 2:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > I still fail to understand what is it about TM that is so > special that it cannot be divulged without payment. If the > TMO is trying to change the world and they are truly sincere > in this, why is it all a big secret? Why is the "technique" > so secret? Why isn't it in a book? Or is it? These are incredibly frustrating questions to try to answer for a TMer, because the bottom line is, you can't grasp why it's a "secret" until you learn it yourself (and not everyone does even then). And of course that sounds like total B.S. The problem is that unlikely as it seems, it's true. The nature of TM is such that it can't be learned properly from a book. There have been a couple of books (not by TM teachers) that purported to explain how it's done, but you'd be *extremely* unlikely to pick it up correctly from words on a page. (I'm talking about the *method* here, not the mantras; the mantras are a whole 'nother issue.) > Why has no one breached the secrecy? Who the fuck are all > of you super secret special meditators that you are keeping > this big elephant in the living room a secret? Protecting > your investment? How self-centered is this? Ah, come on, Denise, that's not fair. We all wish everyone could learn it for free. Most of us realize learning it properly requires a trained teacher, though, and that trying to explain how it's done outside the context of standard TM instruction by a trained teacher is not likely to lead to proper practice. I'm making it sound as if TM is *difficult*, but in fact it's just the opposite; it's easier than you can imagine. And paradoxically, that's why learning it requires someone who has been trained to teach it, because they know how to lead you into the experience of effortlessness. Every other skill we learn requires some degree of effort, so the knack of letting go of all effort is novel and takes a novel approach to convey. As ridiculously easy as TM is, it's also easy to fall into making it more difficult than it is, and then you don't get the benefits. Unlike most other things in life, the less you know about the method before you learn it, the more likely the instruction is to "click" right from the start. In a very real sense, by declining to try to explain TM, we're protecting *your* investment should you ever decide to learn it from a trained TM teacher. > Why wouldn't the TMO release the secret, or for that > matter, anyone who has the secret, and really test the > hypothesis that they can change the world? It reeks of > BS. There really is no specific "secret" that could be "released," first of all. If there's a "secret," it's the whole method of instruction, and that requires training. Second, most of us here, at least, think the TMO could have done a more effective job of getting people to practice TM. But that's a different issue. I don't expect this to convince you. All I can say is that I stand behind what I just wrote 100 percent.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Denise Evans wrote: > > > > > I still fail to understand what is it about TM that is so special that it > > cannot be divulged without payment. > > Nothing. You get a "mantra" which in is the name > of some Hindu god or goddess, and repeat it over and > over during your 20-minute meditation, coming back to > it whenever your mind strays, which is often, because > it's usually pretty boring doing this. It's supposed to > provide what TMers call "deep rest." This is deeper than > your average garden-variety rest, because they say so > and what more proof do you need? Seriously, there have > been some studies but most have to shown to have been > fixed in some way. If you want a list of the mantras, > they're available somewhere on the Web. > > > If the TMO is trying to change the world and they are truly sincere in > > this, why is it all a big secret? Why is the "technique" so secret? Why > > isn't it in a book? > > Because they could make more $$ in the old days > by keeping it secret, silly. Of course you can > learn it from a book. Only self-important pompous > fools would try to convince you you needed to shell > out a huge amount of $$ to learn a "secret word." > Don't believe 'em, Denise. > > > Or is it? Why has no one breached the secrecy? Who the fuck are all of > > you super secret special meditators that you are keeping this big elephant > > in the living room a secret? Protecting your investment? How > > self-centered is this? Why wouldn't the TMO release the secret, or for > > that matter, anyone who has the secret, and really test the hypothesis that > > they can change the world? It reeks of BS. > > Plenty of people have breached the secret, and I'm pretty sure > you can find it on the Web. Pick whichever mantra appeals to > you, sit down and repeat it for 20 minutes, coming back as > necessary, and voila. You're a meditator. > > Sal > So Sal, why so sour on TM? I think Denise deserves an explanation before you start giving her advise that you're pulling straight out of your ass.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
There's so much wrong with what Sal says here, I can't possibly cover it all. So I'll limit my comments to the most egregious misstatements. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > Seriously, there have been some studies but most have > to shown to have been fixed in some way. Simply not the case. > Of course you can > learn it from a book. Only self-important pompous > fools would try to convince you you needed to shell > out a huge amount of $$ to learn a "secret word." > Don't believe 'em, Denise. The mantra is a different issue from the method of using the mantra. You can get a mantra from a book, but not the method. > Plenty of people have breached the secret, and I'm pretty sure > you can find it on the Web. Pick whichever mantra appeals to > you, sit down and repeat it for 20 minutes, coming back as > necessary, and voila. You're a meditator. But you'll be highly unlikely to be doing TM.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
On Oct 31, 2011, at 5:11 PM, whynotnow7 wrote: > Its Salarishi! Not bad, Jim. Kinda has a nice ring to it. Why do I all of a sudden have the urge to start holding million $$ courses and wearing a crown? > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: >> >> On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Denise Evans wrote: >> >>> >>> I still fail to understand what is it about TM that is so special that it >>> cannot be divulged without payment. >> >> Nothing. You get a "mantra" which in ™ is the name >> of some Hindu god or goddess, and repeat it over and >> over during your 20-minute meditation, coming back to >> it whenever your mind strays, which is often, because >> it's usually pretty boring doing this. It's supposed to >> provide what TMers call "deep rest." This is deeper than >> your average garden-variety rest, because they say so >> and what more proof do you need? Seriously, there have >> been some studies but most have to shown to have been >> fixed in some way. If you want a list of the ™ mantras, >> they're available somewhere on the Web. >> >>> If the TMO is trying to change the world and they are truly sincere in >>> this, why is it all a big secret? Why is the "technique" so secret? Why >>> isn't it in a book? >> >> Because they could make more $$ in the old days >> by keeping it secret, silly. Of course you can >> learn it from a book. Only self-important pompous >> fools would try to convince you you needed to shell >> out a huge amount of $$ to learn a "secret word." >> Don't believe 'em, Denise. >> >>> Or is it? Why has no one breached the secrecy? Who the fuck are all of >>> you super secret special meditators that you are keeping this big elephant >>> in the living room a secret? Protecting your investment? How >>> self-centered is this? Why wouldn't the TMO release the secret, or for >>> that matter, anyone who has the secret, and really test the hypothesis that >>> they can change the world? It reeks of BS. >> >> Plenty of people have breached the secret, and I'm pretty sure >> you can find it on the Web. Pick whichever mantra appeals to >> you, sit down and repeat it for 20 minutes, coming back as >> necessary, and voila. You're a meditator. >> > To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Its Salarishi! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Denise Evans wrote: > > > > > I still fail to understand what is it about TM that is so special that it > > cannot be divulged without payment. > > Nothing. You get a "mantra" which in is the name > of some Hindu god or goddess, and repeat it over and > over during your 20-minute meditation, coming back to > it whenever your mind strays, which is often, because > it's usually pretty boring doing this. It's supposed to > provide what TMers call "deep rest." This is deeper than > your average garden-variety rest, because they say so > and what more proof do you need? Seriously, there have > been some studies but most have to shown to have been > fixed in some way. If you want a list of the mantras, > they're available somewhere on the Web. > > > If the TMO is trying to change the world and they are truly sincere in > > this, why is it all a big secret? Why is the "technique" so secret? Why > > isn't it in a book? > > Because they could make more $$ in the old days > by keeping it secret, silly. Of course you can > learn it from a book. Only self-important pompous > fools would try to convince you you needed to shell > out a huge amount of $$ to learn a "secret word." > Don't believe 'em, Denise. > > > Or is it? Why has no one breached the secrecy? Who the fuck are all of > > you super secret special meditators that you are keeping this big elephant > > in the living room a secret? Protecting your investment? How > > self-centered is this? Why wouldn't the TMO release the secret, or for > > that matter, anyone who has the secret, and really test the hypothesis that > > they can change the world? It reeks of BS. > > Plenty of people have breached the secret, and I'm pretty sure > you can find it on the Web. Pick whichever mantra appeals to > you, sit down and repeat it for 20 minutes, coming back as > necessary, and voila. You're a meditator. > > Sal >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > Pick whichever mantra appeals to > you, sit down and repeat it for 20 minutes, coming back as > necessary, and voila. You're a meditator. ...with a serious headache, all for free !
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > I still fail to understand what is it about TM that is so > special that it cannot be divulged without payment. If the > TMO is trying to change the world and they are truly sincere > in this, why is it all a big secret? Why is the "technique" > so secret? Why isn't it in a book? Or is it? These are incredibly frustrating questions to try to answer for a TMer, because the bottom line is, you can't grasp why it's a "secret" until you learn it yourself (and not everyone does even then). And of course that sounds like total B.S. The problem is that unlikely as it seems, it's true. The nature of TM is such that it can't be learned properly from a book. There have been a couple of books (not by TM teachers) that purported to explain how it's done, but you'd be *extremely* unlikely to pick it up correctly from words on a page. (I'm talking about the *method* here, not the mantras; the mantras are a whole 'nother issue.) > Why has no one breached the secrecy? Who the fuck are all > of you super secret special meditators that you are keeping > this big elephant in the living room a secret? Protecting > your investment? How self-centered is this? Ah, come on, Denise, that's not fair. We all wish everyone could learn it for free. Most of us realize learning it properly requires a trained teacher, though, and that trying to explain how it's done outside the context of standard TM instruction by a trained teacher is not likely to lead to proper practice. I'm making it sound as if TM is *difficult*, but in fact it's just the opposite; it's easier than you can imagine. And paradoxically, that's why learning it requires someone who has been trained to teach it, because they know how to lead you into the experience of effortlessness. Every other skill we learn requires some degree of effort, so the knack of letting go of all effort is novel and takes a novel approach to convey. As ridiculously easy as TM is, it's also easy to fall into making it more difficult than it is, and then you don't get the benefits. Unlike most other things in life, the less you know about the method before you learn it, the more likely the instruction is to "click" right from the start. In a very real sense, by declining to try to explain TM, we're protecting *your* investment should you ever decide to learn it from a trained TM teacher. > Why wouldn't the TMO release the secret, or for that > matter, anyone who has the secret, and really test the > hypothesis that they can change the world? It reeks of > BS. There really is no specific "secret" that could be "released," first of all. If there's a "secret," it's the whole method of instruction, and that requires training. Second, most of us here, at least, think the TMO could have done a more effective job of getting people to practice TM. But that's a different issue. I don't expect this to convince you. All I can say is that I stand behind what I just wrote 100 percent.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Personally, I thought the nod to my contributions was nice...I consider their value basically worthless, but that's the kind of humble person I am :) And yes, I find this place intimidating - mostly because of the unabashed and fearless willingness of the participants to "be" who they are or who they want to think they are...it doesn't really matter. And, in general, my "intimidation" is a direct projection of my unresolved personal pathologies. Not for this forum. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 6:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > If anyone notices, I have torn at the Turq many times. I do > recall the Turq has mentioned some unflattering words towards > obba too. The difference is I do not spend my whole time > taking every one of his words as a pain in the ass, and if he > makes any sense, I leave him alone haha. What shocks me the > most is when a "TM Meditator," tears his ass as some kind of > outside the movement freak. That is disturbing to me, because > if one is getting inner peace, why would one feel threatened > by Turq's comments about TM, to the point of lashing out? You seem to have bought into two of the false memes Barry has done his best to establish. First, by far the majority of the criticism directed at Barry is not about his comments concerning TM, it's about his incredibly obnoxious behavior toward others on FFL. There are plenty of TM critics here who don't come in for the same disapprobation that Barry does, because they treat others like human beings rather than like garbage. Second, the notion that TMers are "threatened" by what he has to say about TM/MMY/the TMO is absurd. That one disagrees with somebody's view or disapproves of their behavior, or both, doesn't mean they feel threatened by it. > Judy has pointed out many times the Turq has made an error > in his use of TM words I think you may be thinking of Vaj rather than Barry here. Vaj is the one who most often gets "TM words" wrong. > Barry is doing a pretty good job showing me the dark side > of the movement mind set What Barry primarily shows the dark side of is Barry. > yet I still like my TM..so far, I think. ; ) > This is where, "Barry," can be free of my not, "theaten > lil Barry and his shriveled heart." Take another look at the exchange you were commenting on: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > I am pretty sure any and all of them would react just like > > the rest of us do, if you decided to lie and deliberately > > distort their words and criticize them personally. What you > > are really listing are the people on FFL who don't threaten > > lil' Barry and his shriveled heart. This is on the nose. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > > > > > LOL. I like your paragraph about this being an > > > > intimidating place. And yet... > > > My perspective is different. I think it's only an > > > "intimidating" place for those who feel as if they > > > have an image that needs protecting. Those who have > > > a more fluid personality, and feel no need to con- > > > stantly defend themselves and their view of who and > > > what they are don't seem to find it intimidating at > > > all. In that ilk I include notables such as Curtis, > > > you, Alex, Rick, Marek, Sal, Susan/wayback, tartbrain, > > > Denise, Xeno, and many others, who never seem to worry > > > about it. The ability to just be oneself seems to be > > > its own reward. ...do you think I feel "intimidated" by FFL? No? Then why am I not on his list? Note also, by the way, that while he does put Denise on his list of those not intimidated by FFL, it was her confession that *she finds FFL intimidating* that initiated this exchange. Bottom line, he wasn't really paying attention to what was being said, nor did he have anything insightful to point out. He simply felt the need to lash out at the people who intimidate *him*. And that, in a nutshell, is why so many here criticize Barry.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Yes, I saw. Actually, I'm way behind in viewing so will probably delete most of them. My real life intruded. This list is prolific. I was asking in part, because I had to sign a "confidentiality agreement" when I learned the Amma IAM meditation. Big red fucking flag which I consciously evaluated as I was sitting there, but decided to go through with because that was part of my deal with myself: "Follow through to get the full experience." Actually, I wonder what my teenage daughter signed in her "special" class. I threw everything out so can't remember now but it was a simple combination of relaxing yoga postures known to all, plus a visualization (the kind where you think of yourself in a meadow) known to all, plus a silent meditation of our choice. It wasn't that "special" as I remember (I threw it all out on principle after the fact) but it was stressed that everything had to be done in a very specific order to achieve the results. I guess the order is what they were protecting. Confidentiality agreement? Seriously? Yuk. True spirituality does not involve this type of BS. Occupy the Domes? Seriously? If they were public, they would be full. What reality are those "dome goers" in? Sounds like visions of people lost in the grandiose idea that they are "saviours." Could be worse. That was a good one. From: obbajeeba To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 12:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing When I learned TM, it was not introduced to me as a secret club. LOL. The world of the cost was easily explained as the same as anyone needing to pay for things to live in the society. We pay the grocery clerks, lawyers, doctors, and even police, heck why do we need to pay police for protection, when we could just hit the stealing bastard (a thief) over the head with a baseball bat? LOL. The secret mantra is only mentioned as secret I think, once one has learned? Gee, it has been a few years since that lesson. I only remember the mantra and it is mine. hahaha. Seriously, you raise good questions and I fully respect your view point. Yeah, why? ps. Yahoo is reposting old posts from a week a go or more. See date below. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > > > I still fail to understand what is it about TM that is so special that it > cannot be divulged without payment. Â If the TMO is trying to change the > world and they are truly sincere in this, why is it all a big secret? Â Why > is the "technique" so secret? Â Why isn't it in a book? Â Or is it? Â Why has > no one breached the secrecy? Â Who the fuck are all of you super secret > special meditators that you are keeping this big elephant in the living room > a secret? Â Protecting your investment? Â How self-centered is this? Â Why > wouldn't the TMO release the secret, or for that matter, anyone who has the > secret, and really test the hypothesis that they can change the world? Â It > reeks of BS. > > > ____________ > From: obbajeeba > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:45 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > Â > > > If anyone notices, I have torn at the Turq many times. I do recall the Turq > has mentioned some unflattering words towards obba too. The difference is I > do not spend my whole time taking every one of his words as a pain in the > ass, and if he makes any sense, I leave him alone haha. What shocks me the > most is when a "TM Meditator," tears his ass as some kind of outside the > movement freak. That is disturbing to me, because if one is getting inner > peace, why would one feel threatened by Turq's comments about TM, to the > point of lashing out? > > Judy has pointed out many times the Turq has made an error in his use of TM > words, and many others, haha, and at that point, there is no need for someone > like me to step in because she called it and many times rightfully so. (Judy > is goddess to me.) > > I am sure if I was hanging out in Amsterdam with the Turq, at a coffee house, > rolling a...uh, whatever they have to roll there, and I said I had to take > my 20, he may roll his eyes, at the same time respect my time into the > Transcendence, as I feel that what works for me. I do not live TM like a cult > and if other's do, that is their problem and not mine. : ) Barry is doing a > pretty good job showing me the dark side of the movement mind set, yet I > still like my TM..so far, I think. ; ) > This is where, "Barry," can be free of my not, "theat
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
When I learned TM, it was not introduced to me as a secret club. LOL. The world of the cost was easily explained as the same as anyone needing to pay for things to live in the society. We pay the grocery clerks, lawyers, doctors, and even police, heck why do we need to pay police for protection, when we could just hit the stealing bastard (a thief) over the head with a baseball bat? LOL. The secret mantra is only mentioned as secret I think, once one has learned? Gee, it has been a few years since that lesson. I only remember the mantra and it is mine. hahaha. Seriously, you raise good questions and I fully respect your view point. Yeah, why? ps. Yahoo is reposting old posts from a week a go or more. See date below. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > > > I still fail to understand what is it about TM that is so special that it > cannot be divulged without payment. Â If the TMO is trying to change the > world and they are truly sincere in this, why is it all a big secret? Â Why > is the "technique" so secret? Â Why isn't it in a book? Â Or is it? Â Why has > no one breached the secrecy? Â Who the fuck are all of you super secret > special meditators that you are keeping this big elephant in the living room > a secret? Â Protecting your investment? Â How self-centered is this? Â Why > wouldn't the TMO release the secret, or for that matter, anyone who has the > secret, and really test the hypothesis that they can change the world? Â It > reeks of BS. > > > > From: obbajeeba > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:45 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > Â > > > If anyone notices, I have torn at the Turq many times. I do recall the Turq > has mentioned some unflattering words towards obba too. The difference is I > do not spend my whole time taking every one of his words as a pain in the > ass, and if he makes any sense, I leave him alone haha. What shocks me the > most is when a "TM Meditator," tears his ass as some kind of outside the > movement freak. That is disturbing to me, because if one is getting inner > peace, why would one feel threatened by Turq's comments about TM, to the > point of lashing out? > > Judy has pointed out many times the Turq has made an error in his use of TM > words, and many others, haha, and at that point, there is no need for someone > like me to step in because she called it and many times rightfully so. (Judy > is goddess to me.) > > I am sure if I was hanging out in Amsterdam with the Turq, at a coffee house, > rolling a...uh, whatever they have to roll there, and I said I had to take > my 20, he may roll his eyes, at the same time respect my time into the > Transcendence, as I feel that what works for me. I do not live TM like a cult > and if other's do, that is their problem and not mine. : ) Barry is doing a > pretty good job showing me the dark side of the movement mind set, yet I > still like my TM..so far, I think. ; ) > This is where, "Barry," can be free of my not, "theaten lil Barry and his > shriveled heart." > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > I am pretty sure any and all of them would react just like the rest of us > > do, if you decided to lie and deliberately distort their words and > > criticize them personally. What you are really listing are the people on > > FFL who don't threaten lil' Barry and his shriveled heart. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > > > > > LOL. I like your paragraph about this being an intimidating place. > > > > > > My perspective is different. I think it's only an > > > "intimidating" place for those who feel as if they > > > have an image that needs protecting. Those who have > > > a more fluid personality, and feel no need to con- > > > stantly defend themselves and their view of who and > > > what they are don't seem to find it intimidating at > > > all. In that ilk I include notables such as Curtis, > > > you, Alex, Rick, Marek, Sal, Susan/wayback, tartbrain, > > > Denise, Xeno, and many others, who never seem to worry > > > about it. The ability to just be oneself seems to be > > > its own reward. > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
I still fail to understand what is it about TM that is so special that it cannot be divulged without payment. If the TMO is trying to change the world and they are truly sincere in this, why is it all a big secret? Why is the "technique" so secret? Why isn't it in a book? Or is it? Why has no one breached the secrecy? Who the fuck are all of you super secret special meditators that you are keeping this big elephant in the living room a secret? Protecting your investment? How self-centered is this? Why wouldn't the TMO release the secret, or for that matter, anyone who has the secret, and really test the hypothesis that they can change the world? It reeks of BS. From: obbajeeba To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing If anyone notices, I have torn at the Turq many times. I do recall the Turq has mentioned some unflattering words towards obba too. The difference is I do not spend my whole time taking every one of his words as a pain in the ass, and if he makes any sense, I leave him alone haha. What shocks me the most is when a "TM Meditator," tears his ass as some kind of outside the movement freak. That is disturbing to me, because if one is getting inner peace, why would one feel threatened by Turq's comments about TM, to the point of lashing out? Judy has pointed out many times the Turq has made an error in his use of TM words, and many others, haha, and at that point, there is no need for someone like me to step in because she called it and many times rightfully so. (Judy is goddess to me.) I am sure if I was hanging out in Amsterdam with the Turq, at a coffee house, rolling a...uh, whatever they have to roll there, and I said I had to take my 20, he may roll his eyes, at the same time respect my time into the Transcendence, as I feel that what works for me. I do not live TM like a cult and if other's do, that is their problem and not mine. : ) Barry is doing a pretty good job showing me the dark side of the movement mind set, yet I still like my TM..so far, I think. ; ) This is where, "Barry," can be free of my not, "theaten lil Barry and his shriveled heart." --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > I am pretty sure any and all of them would react just like the rest of us do, > if you decided to lie and deliberately distort their words and criticize them > personally. What you are really listing are the people on FFL who don't > threaten lil' Barry and his shriveled heart. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > > > LOL. I like your paragraph about this being an intimidating place. > > > > My perspective is different. I think it's only an > > "intimidating" place for those who feel as if they > > have an image that needs protecting. Those who have > > a more fluid personality, and feel no need to con- > > stantly defend themselves and their view of who and > > what they are don't seem to find it intimidating at > > all. In that ilk I include notables such as Curtis, > > you, Alex, Rick, Marek, Sal, Susan/wayback, tartbrain, > > Denise, Xeno, and many others, who never seem to worry > > about it. The ability to just be oneself seems to be > > its own reward. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > If anyone notices, I have torn at the Turq many times. I do > recall the Turq has mentioned some unflattering words towards > obba too. The difference is I do not spend my whole time > taking every one of his words as a pain in the ass, and if he > makes any sense, I leave him alone haha. What shocks me the > most is when a "TM Meditator," tears his ass as some kind of > outside the movement freak. That is disturbing to me, because > if one is getting inner peace, why would one feel threatened > by Turq's comments about TM, to the point of lashing out? You seem to have bought into two of the false memes Barry has done his best to establish. First, by far the majority of the criticism directed at Barry is not about his comments concerning TM, it's about his incredibly obnoxious behavior toward others on FFL. There are plenty of TM critics here who don't come in for the same disapprobation that Barry does, because they treat others like human beings rather than like garbage. Second, the notion that TMers are "threatened" by what he has to say about TM/MMY/the TMO is absurd. That one disagrees with somebody's view or disapproves of their behavior, or both, doesn't mean they feel threatened by it. > Judy has pointed out many times the Turq has made an error > in his use of TM words I think you may be thinking of Vaj rather than Barry here. Vaj is the one who most often gets "TM words" wrong. > Barry is doing a pretty good job showing me the dark side > of the movement mind set What Barry primarily shows the dark side of is Barry. > yet I still like my TM..so far, I think. ; ) > This is where, "Barry," can be free of my not, "theaten > lil Barry and his shriveled heart." Take another look at the exchange you were commenting on: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > I am pretty sure any and all of them would react just like > > the rest of us do, if you decided to lie and deliberately > > distort their words and criticize them personally. What you > > are really listing are the people on FFL who don't threaten > > lil' Barry and his shriveled heart. This is on the nose. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > > > > > LOL. I like your paragraph about this being an > > > > intimidating place. And yet... > > > My perspective is different. I think it's only an > > > "intimidating" place for those who feel as if they > > > have an image that needs protecting. Those who have > > > a more fluid personality, and feel no need to con- > > > stantly defend themselves and their view of who and > > > what they are don't seem to find it intimidating at > > > all. In that ilk I include notables such as Curtis, > > > you, Alex, Rick, Marek, Sal, Susan/wayback, tartbrain, > > > Denise, Xeno, and many others, who never seem to worry > > > about it. The ability to just be oneself seems to be > > > its own reward. ...do you think I feel "intimidated" by FFL? No? Then why am I not on his list? Note also, by the way, that while he does put Denise on his list of those not intimidated by FFL, it was her confession that *she finds FFL intimidating* that initiated this exchange. Bottom line, he wasn't really paying attention to what was being said, nor did he have anything insightful to point out. He simply felt the need to lash out at the people who intimidate *him*. And that, in a nutshell, is why so many here criticize Barry.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
If anyone notices, I have torn at the Turq many times. I do recall the Turq has mentioned some unflattering words towards obba too. The difference is I do not spend my whole time taking every one of his words as a pain in the ass, and if he makes any sense, I leave him alone haha. What shocks me the most is when a "TM Meditator," tears his ass as some kind of outside the movement freak. That is disturbing to me, because if one is getting inner peace, why would one feel threatened by Turq's comments about TM, to the point of lashing out? Judy has pointed out many times the Turq has made an error in his use of TM words, and many others, haha, and at that point, there is no need for someone like me to step in because she called it and many times rightfully so. (Judy is goddess to me.) I am sure if I was hanging out in Amsterdam with the Turq, at a coffee house, rolling a...uh, whatever they have to roll there, and I said I had to take my 20, he may roll his eyes, at the same time respect my time into the Transcendence, as I feel that what works for me. I do not live TM like a cult and if other's do, that is their problem and not mine. : ) Barry is doing a pretty good job showing me the dark side of the movement mind set, yet I still like my TM..so far, I think. ; ) This is where, "Barry," can be free of my not, "theaten lil Barry and his shriveled heart." --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > I am pretty sure any and all of them would react just like the rest of us do, > if you decided to lie and deliberately distort their words and criticize them > personally. What you are really listing are the people on FFL who don't > threaten lil' Barry and his shriveled heart. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > > > LOL. I like your paragraph about this being an intimidating place. > > > > My perspective is different. I think it's only an > > "intimidating" place for those who feel as if they > > have an image that needs protecting. Those who have > > a more fluid personality, and feel no need to con- > > stantly defend themselves and their view of who and > > what they are don't seem to find it intimidating at > > all. In that ilk I include notables such as Curtis, > > you, Alex, Rick, Marek, Sal, Susan/wayback, tartbrain, > > Denise, Xeno, and many others, who never seem to worry > > about it. The ability to just be oneself seems to be > > its own reward. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote: > > No way - Judy, you smoke? Let's put it this way--I am *smokin'*. No, I used to smoke, but I don't now. > If you do it would be real cool to meet you at least > once, smoke together and laugh about (Dumb)az grey > and Vakra Buddhi. You 'n' me, smokin' together...would be great fun. And goodness knows we've smoked those dudes out time after time here. > > > On Oct 18, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Vaj wrote: > > > > > On Oct 18, 2011, at 1:36 AM, azgrey wrote: > > > >> At least they won't let her have all those cats anymore. > >> My speculation is all the secondhand smoke they were > >> exposed to resulted in some seriously unhappy kitties. > > > > > > Does Judy smoke? > > > > Not so surprising I guess.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > > > > > Judy and Barry, fess up. What kind of hot relationship did or > > > > are you two having? > > > > It is obvious, there is some chemistry between you. > > > > Was Judy the one Barry was banging when the Merv show incident > > > > came out? > > > > Barry is probably not in some coffee house in Amsterdam, he is > > > > most likely sitting right next to or Judy is sitting on his lap > > > > typing all this. Barry, puffing on a cigar, five o'clock shadow, > > > > robe open, grey hair fluffing out as Judy thinks kitty, rubs her > > > > hand on the keys, stroking the ever graceful polite compliments > > > > he suggests. > > > > > > While none of this speculation is true, it doesn't > > > bother me in the least that you propose it. In fact, > > > I think you should do it more often, because the only > > > thing that gets Judy more pissed off and more red-in- > > > the-face apoplectic that being ignored as the nonentity > > > she is is someone suggesting that she's secretly carry- > > > ing a torch for yours truly. :-) > > > > > > It IS, after all, one of the only rational reasons why > > > she'd have obsessed on me for over sixteen years the > > > way she has, becoming almost the textbook definition > > > of a cyberstalker in the process. > > > > > > If I was into fat, ugly, senior citizen crazy women, > > > I might even be flattered by all the attention. :-) > > > > Poor Barry... How does he manage to tie his shoes in > > the morning? His mind is like a fun-house mirror. > > > > He does appear poor, to have referred to you as above. > What to imagine. Fury grey or gray chested round belly man, looking for his > feet in the morning, "Oh, I need the mirror to see if my shoes are located > near the position of foot placement. Mirror looks a bit distorted. Hmm. I can > touch and feel with my toes. Found the one shoe." > At this point, Judy crawls up on her bare knees and nudges the shoe next to > Barry's toe and purrs, "Meow." > Barry attempts to stretch his arm to brush Judy's soft hair and pat her on > her head. He says, "While you are down there, could you please tie my shoe, > once I insert my foot into it?" > Judy smiles, purring ever so more heavy and brushes her naked body onto > Barry's furry calve. Barry works his foot into the shoe, all the while > watching the wavery mirror in front of him, seeing Judy change size from very > thin to fat and fat to thin. He says, "Hold it right there. Stop. Go back an > inch and raise your back a bit. There. Perfect image in the carnival mirror > of Judy for Barry to envision his fantasy of having his shoes tied by Judy. > Thin waist, wide bottom came up with the pose. > Barry got his shoes tied. Judy tied them together. : ) LOL. But he really doesn't need me to tie his shoes together. He does that all by himself, then can't figure out why he keeps falling on his face. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > > > Judy and Barry, fess up. What kind of hot relationship did or > > > are you two having? > > > It is obvious, there is some chemistry between you. > > > Was Judy the one Barry was banging when the Merv show incident > > > came out? > > > Barry is probably not in some coffee house in Amsterdam, he is > > > most likely sitting right next to or Judy is sitting on his lap > > > typing all this. Barry, puffing on a cigar, five o'clock shadow, > > > robe open, grey hair fluffing out as Judy thinks kitty, rubs her > > > hand on the keys, stroking the ever graceful polite compliments > > > he suggests. > > > > While none of this speculation is true, it doesn't > > bother me in the least that you propose it. In fact, > > I think you should do it more often, because the only > > thing that gets Judy more pissed off and more red-in- > > the-face apoplectic that being ignored as the nonentity > > she is is someone suggesting that she's secretly carry- > > ing a torch for yours truly. :-) > > > > It IS, after all, one of the only rational reasons why > > she'd have obsessed on me for over sixteen years the > > way she has, becoming almost the textbook definition > > of a cyberstalker in the process. > > > > If I was into fat, ugly, senior citizen crazy women, > > I might even be flattered by all the attention. :-) > > Poor Barry... How does he manage to tie his shoes in > the morning? His mind is like a fun-house mirror. > He does appear poor, to have referred to you as above. What to imagine. Fury grey or gray chested round belly man, looking for his feet in the morning, "Oh, I need the mirror to see if my shoes are located near the position of foot placement. Mirror looks a bit distorted. Hmm. I can touch and feel with my toes. Found the one shoe." At this point, Judy crawls up on her bare knees and nudges the shoe next to Barry's toe and purrs, "Meow." Barry attempts to stretch his arm to brush Judy's soft hair and pat her on her head. He says, "While you are down there, could you please tie my shoe, once I insert my foot into it?" Judy smiles, purring ever so more heavy and brushes her naked body onto Barry's furry calve. Barry works his foot into the shoe, all the while watching the wavery mirror in front of him, seeing Judy change size from very thin to fat and fat to thin. He says, "Hold it right there. Stop. Go back an inch and raise your back a bit. There. Perfect image in the carnival mirror of Judy for Barry to envision his fantasy of having his shoes tied by Judy. Thin waist, wide bottom came up with the pose. Barry got his shoes tied. Judy tied them together. : )
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Ha-Ha! I can see cats as some of the most advanced beings on the planet. They are the perfect proportion for us humans, and because they are just so beautiful and playful, they do pretty much whatever they want to; sleep most of the day, get fed and cleaned up after, and rarely answer when called. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote: > > Yes they were so precious. Oh and I love Orange tabbies. I once took in a > Orange tabby who seemed to have been obviously abandoned. He was loving but > he would fart really terribly lying down right next to my face :-), but I > couldn't push him away since he was so loving. > > > On Oct 18, 2011, at 10:20 AM, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > I like the kitties too - we have several that use our yard for lounging, > > drinking and hunting. A big orange one likes to rest on the birdbath right > > next to the Buddha. We also have several hummingbirds, one of my favorite > > creatures ever. So precise, going for each drop of nectar in each flower, > > without a wasted movement - amazing! Their iridescent feathers are > > beautiful too, emerald colored. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote: > > > > > > A beautiful picture Barry, all those beautiful cats going to the > > > beautiful nice crazy lady Judy :-) > > > > > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > > > > From: turquoiseb > > > > Date: October 18, 2011 12:59:18 AM PDT > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > > Reply-To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Always a pleasure to have you drop in Mr. Doughney, but > > > > > > it might be better if you provide some advance notice > > > > > > because Judy seems to develop symptoms of severe > > > > > > anxiety attacks that coincide with your arrival. Say, you > > > > > > wouldn't be related to that nice Mr. Skolnik would you? > > > > > > > > > > > > At least they won't let her have all those cats anymore. > > > > > > My speculation is all the secondhand smoke they were > > > > > > exposed to resulted in some seriously unhappy kitties. > > > > > > > > > > I have to admit, AZ, that among all of the many > > > > > theories proposed here on FFL to try to explain > > > > > why Judy is so chronically angry and why she acts > > > > > the way she does, your "cat lady" theory is the best. > > > > > > > > > > Doesn't it just FIT? An already-angry 70-year-old > > > > > woman with no friends, living alone in Buttfuck, NJ, > > > > > and what happens? The authorities come and take away > > > > > her dozens of cats for public health reasons. But > > > > > they don't take away the cigarettes, so she fires > > > > > one up, allows the nicotine to further poison her > > > > > already-poisonous system, and decides to post to FFL, > > > > > thinking, "I NEED an argument." > > > > > > > > > > So she starts one with Curtis, quickly turning it > > > > > into an opportunity to dump on Vaj, since he won't > > > > > argue with her. Then she starts another argument > > > > > with Mike, quickly turning that into an opportunity > > > > > to dump on Barry, because he won't argue with her, > > > > > either. It's Maharishi-like: "Every post is a perfect > > > > > opportunity to start an argument, and every argument > > > > > is the perfect opportunity to re-run the obsessions > > > > > I have already prepared." :-) > > > > > > > > > > Good fantasy image of her. Explains pretty much > > > > > everything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > Judy and Barry, fess up. What kind of hot relationship did or > > are you two having? > > It is obvious, there is some chemistry between you. > > Was Judy the one Barry was banging when the Merv show incident > > came out? > > Barry is probably not in some coffee house in Amsterdam, he is > > most likely sitting right next to or Judy is sitting on his lap > > typing all this. Barry, puffing on a cigar, five o'clock shadow, > > robe open, grey hair fluffing out as Judy thinks kitty, rubs her > > hand on the keys, stroking the ever graceful polite compliments > > he suggests. > > While none of this speculation is true, it doesn't > bother me in the least that you propose it. In fact, > I think you should do it more often, because the only > thing that gets Judy more pissed off and more red-in- > the-face apoplectic that being ignored as the nonentity > she is is someone suggesting that she's secretly carry- > ing a torch for yours truly. :-) > > It IS, after all, one of the only rational reasons why > she'd have obsessed on me for over sixteen years the > way she has, becoming almost the textbook definition > of a cyberstalker in the process. > > If I was into fat, ugly, senior citizen crazy women, > I might even be flattered by all the attention. :-) Poor Barry... How does he manage to tie his shoes in the morning? His mind is like a fun-house mirror.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
OMG --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > Somewhere in the Parasara Hora Shastra, there are excuses of how one gets pregnant months and even years after the last episode of jiva jingling. If looking at a picture created a pregnancy, maybe that is how Mary got the Jesus, or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzqoTuholfg > maybe the sex change I had may or not make that pregnancy possible? > LOL > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > snip > > How come I am feeling tired all of a sudden? > > > pregnant? [;)] > > Are you on or have you just had your period [:D] > > or have you had problems in the past with mercury deficiency? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsLYMIsXg8c > > [:D] > > please don't tell > > > > http://www.attentiondeficiencydisorder.com/mercury-amalgam-fillings-the-\ \ > > no-1-brain-cell-monster.html > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Somewhere in the Parasara Hora Shastra, there are excuses of how one gets pregnant months and even years after the last episode of jiva jingling. If looking at a picture created a pregnancy, maybe that is how Mary got the Jesus, or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzqoTuholfg maybe the sex change I had may or not make that pregnancy possible? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > snip > How come I am feeling tired all of a sudden? > > pregnant? [;)] > Are you on or have you just had your period [:D] > or have you had problems in the past with mercury deficiency? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsLYMIsXg8c > [:D] > please don't tell > > http://www.attentiondeficiencydisorder.com/mercury-amalgam-fillings-the-\ > no-1-brain-cell-monster.html >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: snip How come I am feeling tired all of a sudden? > pregnant? [;)] Are you on or have you just had your period [:D] or have you had problems in the past with mercury deficiency? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsLYMIsXg8c [:D] please don't tell http://www.attentiondeficiencydisorder.com/mercury-amalgam-fillings-the-\ no-1-brain-cell-monster.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
LOL, I posted this message last week sometime. Why did it repost again? Haha Must be some reason the yahoo gods know.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > Judy and Barry, fess up. What kind of hot relationship did or are you two > having? > It is obvious, there is some chemistry between you. > Was Judy the one Barry was banging when the Merv show incident came out? > Barry is probably not in some coffee house in Amsterdam, he is most likely > sitting right next to or Judy is sitting on his lap typing all this. Barry, > puffing on a cigar, five o'clock shadow, robe open, grey hair fluffing out as > Judy thinks kitty, rubs her hand on the keys, stroking the ever graceful > polite compliments he suggests. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > [http://www.cats-on-tshirts.com/images/cat_designs_200x200/design_missCr\ > > azyCat_wh.jpg] > > :-) > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Always a pleasure to have you drop in Mr. Doughney, but > > > > > it might be better if you provide some advance notice > > > > > because Judy seems to develop symptoms of severe > > > > > anxiety attacks that coincide with your arrival. Say, you > > > > > wouldn't be related to that nice Mr. Skolnik would you? > > > > > > > > > > At least they won't let her have all those cats anymore. > > > > > My speculation is all the secondhand smoke they were > > > > > exposed to resulted in some seriously unhappy kitties. > > > > > > > > I have to admit, AZ, that among all of the many > > > > theories proposed here on FFL to try to explain > > > > why Judy is so chronically angry and why she acts > > > > the way she does, your "cat lady" theory is the best. > > > > > > > > Doesn't it just FIT? An already-angry 70-year-old > > > > woman with no friends, living alone in Buttfuck, NJ, > > > > and what happens? The authorities come and take away > > > > her dozens of cats for public health reasons. But > > > > they don't take away the cigarettes, so she fires > > > > one up, allows the nicotine to further poison her > > > > already-poisonous system, and decides to post to FFL, > > > > thinking, "I NEED an argument." > > > > > > > > So she starts one with Curtis, quickly turning it > > > > into an opportunity to dump on Vaj, since he won't > > > > argue with her. Then she starts another argument > > > > with Mike, quickly turning that into an opportunity > > > > to dump on Barry, because he won't argue with her, > > > > either. It's Maharishi-like: "Every post is a perfect > > > > opportunity to start an argument, and every argument > > > > is the perfect opportunity to re-run the obsessions > > > > I have already prepared." :-) > > > > > > > > Good fantasy image of her. Explains pretty much > > > > everything. > > > > > > BREAKING NEWS! Barry is beginning to realize his > > > notions about me are fantasies! This is hopeful, > > > folks. Maybe he's making some progress at emerging > > > from his solipsistic Barryworld. Could be > > > overwhelming, though, for him to start confronting > > > reality after all these years; we need to be gentle > > > with him as he does so, or he may find it all too > > > much and retreat again. > > > > > > Can we dare to expect he'll bring az with him out > > > of the fog? Stay tuned... > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > Judy and Barry, fess up. What kind of hot relationship did or > are you two having? > It is obvious, there is some chemistry between you. > Was Judy the one Barry was banging when the Merv show incident > came out? > Barry is probably not in some coffee house in Amsterdam, he is > most likely sitting right next to or Judy is sitting on his lap > typing all this. Barry, puffing on a cigar, five o'clock shadow, > robe open, grey hair fluffing out as Judy thinks kitty, rubs her > hand on the keys, stroking the ever graceful polite compliments > he suggests. While none of this speculation is true, it doesn't bother me in the least that you propose it. In fact, I think you should do it more often, because the only thing that gets Judy more pissed off and more red-in- the-face apoplectic that being ignored as the nonentity she is is someone suggesting that she's secretly carry- ing a torch for yours truly. :-) It IS, after all, one of the only rational reasons why she'd have obsessed on me for over sixteen years the way she has, becoming almost the textbook definition of a cyberstalker in the process. If I was into fat, ugly, senior citizen crazy women, I might even be flattered by all the attention. :-) > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > [http://www.cats-on-tshirts.com/images/cat_designs_200x200/design_missCr\ > > azyCat_wh.jpg] > > :-) > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Always a pleasure to have you drop in Mr. Doughney, but > > > > > it might be better if you provide some advance notice > > > > > because Judy seems to develop symptoms of severe > > > > > anxiety attacks that coincide with your arrival. Say, you > > > > > wouldn't be related to that nice Mr. Skolnik would you? > > > > > > > > > > At least they won't let her have all those cats anymore. > > > > > My speculation is all the secondhand smoke they were > > > > > exposed to resulted in some seriously unhappy kitties. > > > > > > > > I have to admit, AZ, that among all of the many > > > > theories proposed here on FFL to try to explain > > > > why Judy is so chronically angry and why she acts > > > > the way she does, your "cat lady" theory is the best. > > > > > > > > Doesn't it just FIT? An already-angry 70-year-old > > > > woman with no friends, living alone in Buttfuck, NJ, > > > > and what happens? The authorities come and take away > > > > her dozens of cats for public health reasons. But > > > > they don't take away the cigarettes, so she fires > > > > one up, allows the nicotine to further poison her > > > > already-poisonous system, and decides to post to FFL, > > > > thinking, "I NEED an argument." > > > > > > > > So she starts one with Curtis, quickly turning it > > > > into an opportunity to dump on Vaj, since he won't > > > > argue with her. Then she starts another argument > > > > with Mike, quickly turning that into an opportunity > > > > to dump on Barry, because he won't argue with her, > > > > either. It's Maharishi-like: "Every post is a perfect > > > > opportunity to start an argument, and every argument > > > > is the perfect opportunity to re-run the obsessions > > > > I have already prepared." :-) > > > > > > > > Good fantasy image of her. Explains pretty much > > > > everything. > > > > > > BREAKING NEWS! Barry is beginning to realize his > > > notions about me are fantasies! This is hopeful, > > > folks. Maybe he's making some progress at emerging > > > from his solipsistic Barryworld. Could be > > > overwhelming, though, for him to start confronting > > > reality after all these years; we need to be gentle > > > with him as he does so, or he may find it all too > > > much and retreat again. > > > > > > Can we dare to expect he'll bring az with him out > > > of the fog? Stay tuned... > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Judy and Barry, fess up. What kind of hot relationship did or are you two having? It is obvious, there is some chemistry between you. Was Judy the one Barry was banging when the Merv show incident came out? Barry is probably not in some coffee house in Amsterdam, he is most likely sitting right next to or Judy is sitting on his lap typing all this. Barry, puffing on a cigar, five o'clock shadow, robe open, grey hair fluffing out as Judy thinks kitty, rubs her hand on the keys, stroking the ever graceful polite compliments he suggests. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > [http://www.cats-on-tshirts.com/images/cat_designs_200x200/design_missCr\ > azyCat_wh.jpg] > :-) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey wrote: > > > > > > > > Always a pleasure to have you drop in Mr. Doughney, but > > > > it might be better if you provide some advance notice > > > > because Judy seems to develop symptoms of severe > > > > anxiety attacks that coincide with your arrival. Say, you > > > > wouldn't be related to that nice Mr. Skolnik would you? > > > > > > > > At least they won't let her have all those cats anymore. > > > > My speculation is all the secondhand smoke they were > > > > exposed to resulted in some seriously unhappy kitties. > > > > > > I have to admit, AZ, that among all of the many > > > theories proposed here on FFL to try to explain > > > why Judy is so chronically angry and why she acts > > > the way she does, your "cat lady" theory is the best. > > > > > > Doesn't it just FIT? An already-angry 70-year-old > > > woman with no friends, living alone in Buttfuck, NJ, > > > and what happens? The authorities come and take away > > > her dozens of cats for public health reasons. But > > > they don't take away the cigarettes, so she fires > > > one up, allows the nicotine to further poison her > > > already-poisonous system, and decides to post to FFL, > > > thinking, "I NEED an argument." > > > > > > So she starts one with Curtis, quickly turning it > > > into an opportunity to dump on Vaj, since he won't > > > argue with her. Then she starts another argument > > > with Mike, quickly turning that into an opportunity > > > to dump on Barry, because he won't argue with her, > > > either. It's Maharishi-like: "Every post is a perfect > > > opportunity to start an argument, and every argument > > > is the perfect opportunity to re-run the obsessions > > > I have already prepared." :-) > > > > > > Good fantasy image of her. Explains pretty much > > > everything. > > > > BREAKING NEWS! Barry is beginning to realize his > > notions about me are fantasies! This is hopeful, > > folks. Maybe he's making some progress at emerging > > from his solipsistic Barryworld. Could be > > overwhelming, though, for him to start confronting > > reality after all these years; we need to be gentle > > with him as he does so, or he may find it all too > > much and retreat again. > > > > Can we dare to expect he'll bring az with him out > > of the fog? Stay tuned... > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
The original, world-famous awareness test from Daniel Simons and Christopher Chabris http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo&feature=player_embedded http://tinyurl.com/yjhpv7j --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > From one angle, its like a perpetual motion machine: Barry ignores the gorilla next to him, causing inadvertent leakage onto FFL, which you immediately detect and point out, which he then must inhibit as an outlet, so pressure from you, AND the unacknowledged gorilla right next to him, squeezes him up pretty tight. Which he then releases through leakage onto FFL...and the cycle repeats itself. > > Endless fuel for pointing out, or an endless supply of clay pigeons for shooting down, or whatever. Just don't look at the gorilla, whatever you do, don't look. It is a fascinating game he plays. Unknowingly I am sure, and yet, there he is behind his glass curtain, tapping away. :-) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > > > Judy and Barry, fess up. What kind of hot relationship did > > > or are you two having? > > > > Obbajeeba, that is so *old*. You're only about > > the 50th person to make that suggestion. > > > > For the record: Barry and I have *never* liked > > each other. Trust me on this. How could I like > > somebody I'm convinced is a fraud and a phony? > > How could he like somebody who keeps exposing > > him as a fraud and a phony? > > > > We first encountered each other 16 years ago on > > alt.meditation.transcendental. If our opinion of > > each other has only *declined* over the years, > > it ain't likely ever to get much better. > > > > 'Nuff said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is obvious, there is some chemistry between you. > > > Was Judy the one Barry was banging when the Merv show incident came out? > > > Barry is probably not in some coffee house in Amsterdam, he is most likely sitting right next to or Judy is sitting on his lap typing all this. Barry, puffing on a cigar, five o'clock shadow, robe open, grey hair fluffing out as Judy thinks kitty, rubs her hand on the keys, stroking the ever graceful polite compliments he suggests. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > [http://www.cats-on-tshirts.com/images/cat_designs_200x200/design_missCr\ \ > > > > azyCat_wh.jpg] > > > > :-) > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
[http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/kits/images/CarMPC/monkeemobile.JP\ G] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: > > > > Damn! I thought I had something figured out :) > > > > Ya'll are so far out of my league... > > Naah, we've just been at it forever. It's a > little like the one about the guys in prison > who tell jokes by number because they've heard > them so often they have them memorized: > > > 1ST INMATE: 725! > > INMATES: HAHAHAHAHAHA!! > > 2ND INMATE: 418! > > INMATES: HOHOHOHOHOHO!! > > NEW INMATE: 564! > > [silence] > > NEW INMATE: Why didn't they laugh? > > OLD INMATE: Don't feel bad. You know, some folks > can tell a joke, some can't. > > > (Oldie but goodie.) > > > I knew that for sure when someone posted the Osho video > > (George Carlin originating) on the many uses/meanings of > > the word "f..k" after one of my sad rants. (Kinda like > > the word love, actually.) > > Heh! > > > Pulled me right out of the massive shame > > attack I was in. > > Aw, Denise...hope you're staying out of it. > You ain't got nuttin' to be ashamed of nohow. > Such a useless emotion, and you such a bright > light here. > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOYb_xlcNc > > Never hurts to see this again, though, for any > of us. What a showman Osho was. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > Damn! I thought I had something figured out :) > > Ya'll are so far out of my league... Naah, we've just been at it forever. It's a little like the one about the guys in prison who tell jokes by number because they've heard them so often they have them memorized: 1ST INMATE: 725! INMATES: HAHAHAHAHAHA!! 2ND INMATE: 418! INMATES: HOHOHOHOHOHO!! NEW INMATE: 564! [silence] NEW INMATE: Why didn't they laugh? OLD INMATE: Don't feel bad. You know, some folks can tell a joke, some can't. (Oldie but goodie.) > I knew that for sure when someone posted the Osho video > (George Carlin originating) on the many uses/meanings of > the word "f..k" after one of my sad rants. (Kinda like > the word love, actually.) Heh! > Pulled me right out of the massive shame > attack I was in. Aw, Denise...hope you're staying out of it. You ain't got nuttin' to be ashamed of nohow. Such a useless emotion, and you such a bright light here. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOYb_xlcNc Never hurts to see this again, though, for any of us. What a showman Osho was.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
I never encouraged you to take pharmaceuticals for your mania. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote: > > LOL..OMG this is hilarious. Evananda, just hold your answer for sometime. > > Stephen, first let us know the following > > (a) How much your is annual salary? > (b) How much is markup from Pfizer and Big pharma on every prescription you > right? > (c) How is much percentage of your total salary is the total > markups(commissions) from big pharma > (d) You being a mediocre, retarded psychologist the commission identified in > (c) > above must be insanely (the non clinical variety of course :-)) high - can > you > please confirm. > > Yours maniacally, > Ravi Yogi > > > > > From: shukra69 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, October 19, 2011 7:27:24 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > whats your markup on these Navapashanam? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > > > I think you are way off base here. I sell rudraksha beads... I have a 21 > > face > >bead from Java available right now for $14,000. Many people elect to just > >keep > >such expensive beads on an altar and not wear them while others will > >faithfully > >try to ingest something from the bead, some water. Please understand, > >information about Indian beads and objects is all over the internet. Some > >people > >are interested in ancient things and some people are interested in modern > >things. > > > > > > Yes, I have heard stories of all kinds of things while living in India. > > > > There are perfectly legal prescription drugs that some people may decide to > >overuse, or use in some contrary way, that certainly is not the fault of the > >physician. > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" wrote: > > > > > > Really, $700 plus to wear a little brown bead or curio?$700 plus for > >something that is NOT going to worn against the skin or soaked and drank? > >Thats > >fundamentally dishonest of you to pretend that anyone would pay that to do > >anything else with it. > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks, that's a good point. I really have no interest in having people > >endanger their health. People do that everyday, drinking, smoking etc...So > >they > >don't need my help. > > > > > > > > > > Some former MMY students/teachers told me about Kaleshwar and from > > > > there I > >was fortunate to "get a connection" to Shirdi Sai Baba. > > > > > > > > > > Baba of course was neither Hindu nor Moslem ... my non-commercial FB > > > > site > >for Baba and my small work as healer is > >https://www.facebook.com/DivineEnergyHealing > > > > > > > > This is the "official" site maintained by the Trustees of Baba's > > > > Samadhai > >https://www.shrisaibabasansthan.org/INDEX.HTML > > > > > > > > Thanks you > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course one would never recommend actually > > > > > > drinking the water the beads soak in. > > > > > > > > > > It looks like that's exactly what you're doing > > > > > on the Web site, though. > > > > > > > > > > You have a disclaimer on your Divine Energy > > > > > Healing site about consulting a physician and > > > > > always following medical advice. You need to > > > > > have something like that on the Navapashanam > > > > > site as well. Either that or remove the stuff > > > > > about drinking the bead-soaking water and > > > > > wearing the beads close to the skin. > > > > > > > > > > BTW, the Divine Energy Healing site is very > > > > > nicely done, I think. I also looked at Swami > > > > > Kaleshwar's site, and his record of charitable > > > > > projects is impressive. I had never heard of > > > > > him or Shirdi Sai Baba
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Nice intro...really the best part of the song. In salute to the relentless expression on this forum and the opera I saw tonight...give this classic a try. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fZRssq7UlM From: obbajeeba To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing LOL. I like your paragraph about this being an intimidating place. We are all stuck here, this could be appropriate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A_SKMNxYmM It is nice to be here with you all, in a strange kind of way. : ) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > Awww...that's so sweet. Â I don't know why everyone is so __ about you > (never mind, yes I do). > > I do find this place intimidating..but I figure I landed here for a reason > (or some weird cosmic joke). Â Overall, I find this much better entertainment > than Court TV, pretty informative, and the most unusual blend of sincerity > and BS I've every encountered. Â And its helping me in other confusing ways. > Â I'm feeling a shift insideback to the living. > > I've cruised through Byron Katie and am moving on to Susan Campbell and am > reading the book "Getting Real"...wait, that doesn't apply here (except that > it does). Â > > > > From: authfriend > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:22 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > Â > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > > > Damn! I thought I had something figured > > out :) > > > > Ya'll are so far out of my league... > > Naah. We've just been at it forever. It's > sort of like the one about the prisoners > who tell jokes by the number because they've > heard them so often, they've memorized them. > > 1ST INMATE: 803! > > INMATES: HAHAHAHAHA!! > > 2ND INMATE: 385! > > INMATES: HOHOHOHOHO!! > > NEW INMATE: 517! > > [silence] > > NEW INMATE: Why didn't anybody laugh? > > OLD INMATE: Don't feel bad. You know, some > folks can tell a joke, some can't. > > (Oldie but goodie.) > > > I knew that for sure when someone > > posted the Osho video (George Carlin > > originating) on the many uses/meanings > > of the word "f..k" after one of my > > sad rants. (Kinda like the word love, > > actually.) > > Heh...! > > > Pulled me right out of the massive > > shame attack I was in. > > Aw, Denise...hope you've stayed out of > it. You ain't got nuttin' to be ashamed > of. Such a useless and destructive > emotion, and you're such a bright light > here. > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOYb_xlcNc > > But it won't hurt any of us to watch this > again. What a showman he was. >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
LOL..OMG this is hilarious. Evananda, just hold your answer for sometime. Stephen, first let us know the following (a) How much your is annual salary? (b) How much is markup from Pfizer and Big pharma on every prescription you right? (c) How is much percentage of your total salary is the total markups(commissions) from big pharma (d) You being a mediocre, retarded psychologist the commission identified in (c) above must be insanely (the non clinical variety of course :-)) high - can you please confirm. Yours maniacally, Ravi Yogi From: shukra69 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 19, 2011 7:27:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing whats your markup on these Navapashanam? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > I think you are way off base here. I sell rudraksha beads... I have a 21 face >bead from Java available right now for $14,000. Many people elect to just keep >such expensive beads on an altar and not wear them while others will >faithfully >try to ingest something from the bead, some water. Please understand, >information about Indian beads and objects is all over the internet. Some >people >are interested in ancient things and some people are interested in modern >things. > > > Yes, I have heard stories of all kinds of things while living in India. > > There are perfectly legal prescription drugs that some people may decide to >overuse, or use in some contrary way, that certainly is not the fault of the >physician. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" wrote: > > > > Really, $700 plus to wear a little brown bead or curio?$700 plus for >something that is NOT going to worn against the skin or soaked and drank? >Thats >fundamentally dishonest of you to pretend that anyone would pay that to do >anything else with it. > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > > > > > Thanks, that's a good point. I really have no interest in having people >endanger their health. People do that everyday, drinking, smoking etc...So >they >don't need my help. > > > > > > > Some former MMY students/teachers told me about Kaleshwar and from there > > > I >was fortunate to "get a connection" to Shirdi Sai Baba. > > > > > > > Baba of course was neither Hindu nor Moslem ... my non-commercial FB site >for Baba and my small work as healer is >https://www.facebook.com/DivineEnergyHealing > > > > > > This is the "official" site maintained by the Trustees of Baba's Samadhai >https://www.shrisaibabasansthan.org/INDEX.HTML > > > > > > Thanks you > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Of course one would never recommend actually > > > > > drinking the water the beads soak in. > > > > > > > > It looks like that's exactly what you're doing > > > > on the Web site, though. > > > > > > > > You have a disclaimer on your Divine Energy > > > > Healing site about consulting a physician and > > > > always following medical advice. You need to > > > > have something like that on the Navapashanam > > > > site as well. Either that or remove the stuff > > > > about drinking the bead-soaking water and > > > > wearing the beads close to the skin. > > > > > > > > BTW, the Divine Energy Healing site is very > > > > nicely done, I think. I also looked at Swami > > > > Kaleshwar's site, and his record of charitable > > > > projects is impressive. I had never heard of > > > > him or Shirdi Sai Baba. How did you become a > > > > student of Swami Kaleshwar, if I may ask? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In India some people do, and they eat many funny things there too. > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > evananda, it would be a good idea for you > > > > > > to put at the bottom of your navapashanam > > > > > > site (every page) a disclaimer such as the > > > > > > following (from another site that sells > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
whats your markup on these Navapashanam? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > I think you are way off base here. I sell rudraksha beads... I have a 21 face > bead from Java available right now for $14,000. Many people elect to just > keep such expensive beads on an altar and not wear them while others will > faithfully try to ingest something from the bead, some water. Please > understand, information about Indian beads and objects is all over the > internet. Some people are interested in ancient things and some people are > interested in modern things. > > Yes, I have heard stories of all kinds of things while living in India. > > There are perfectly legal prescription drugs that some people may decide to > overuse, or use in some contrary way, that certainly is not the fault of the > physician. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" wrote: > > > > Really, $700 plus to wear a little brown bead or curio?$700 plus for > > something that is NOT going to worn against the skin or soaked and drank? > > Thats fundamentally dishonest of you to pretend that anyone would pay that > > to do anything else with it. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > > > > > Thanks, that's a good point. I really have no interest in having people > > > endanger their health. People do that everyday, drinking, smoking > > > etc...So they don't need my help. > > > > > > Some former MMY students/teachers told me about Kaleshwar and from there > > > I was fortunate to "get a connection" to Shirdi Sai Baba. > > > > > > Baba of course was neither Hindu nor Moslem ... my non-commercial FB site > > > for Baba and my small work as healer is > > > https://www.facebook.com/DivineEnergyHealing > > > > > > This is the "official" site maintained by the Trustees of Baba's Samadhai > > > https://www.shrisaibabasansthan.org/INDEX.HTML > > > > > > Thanks you > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Of course one would never recommend actually > > > > > drinking the water the beads soak in. > > > > > > > > It looks like that's exactly what you're doing > > > > on the Web site, though. > > > > > > > > You have a disclaimer on your Divine Energy > > > > Healing site about consulting a physician and > > > > always following medical advice. You need to > > > > have something like that on the Navapashanam > > > > site as well. Either that or remove the stuff > > > > about drinking the bead-soaking water and > > > > wearing the beads close to the skin. > > > > > > > > BTW, the Divine Energy Healing site is very > > > > nicely done, I think. I also looked at Swami > > > > Kaleshwar's site, and his record of charitable > > > > projects is impressive. I had never heard of > > > > him or Shirdi Sai Baba. How did you become a > > > > student of Swami Kaleshwar, if I may ask? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In India some people do, and they eat many funny things there too. > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > evananda, it would be a good idea for you > > > > > > to put at the bottom of your navapashanam > > > > > > site (every page) a disclaimer such as the > > > > > > following (from another site that sells > > > > > > navapashanam beads): > > > > > > > > > > > > "IMPORTANT NOTICE Future Alchemy is > > > > > > providing these extremely rare and > > > > > > magical beads as talisman and blessing > > > > > > substances ONLY. One's decision to wear > > > > > > the bead next to the skin and/or soak > > > > > > the bead in liquid and drink it is > > > > > > entirely personal - THE OWNERS OF > > > > > > FUTURE ALCHEMY NEITHER RECOMMEND NOR > > > > > > ADVISE THIS PRACTICE. While we are > > > > > > extremely pleased to offer such an > > > > > > amazing alchemical substance, WE CANNOT > > > > > > BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY EFFECTS, > > > > > > POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, THAT COME FROM > > > > > > ITS USE." > > > > > > > > > > > > Or better still, get a lawyer to write > > > > > > an even more ironclad disclaimer for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike Doughney, Vaj, and others on this > > > > > > forum would have no inhibitions about > > > > > > notifying the FDA (which has its own > > > > > > ideas as to what it wants to be involved > > > > > > in; it doesn't matter what *you* think). > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if this stuff *were* harmless, even if > > > > > > it *did* bring about miraculous healing, > > > > > > you're on potentially dangerous legal ground, > > > > > > at least in the U.S. > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
I like the fun game of Leela! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSo0duY7-9s --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > What I meant by your shriveled little heart is when I look into the negative > space of what you write on here (I mean that dimensionally as used to > describe art, not judgmentally), with your rants and other expressions of > meanness, I cannot but help conclude that there is some steaming pile of > festering Barry that you ain't facing. > > It isn't really there, but I have found a tendency in most humans to ignore > our side that is really driving the works. True balance is achieved by > looking at all of it, not as an obsessive check-marking, but just being in > balance, looking at everything. > > When you engage in your game of button pushing, it is basically a very safe > way of interacting with the forum, as is already making your prejudices known > in what you write. There is no variety to it. It is choosing the most obvious > ways to affront others, with the natural result that you win, because gee, > that's not the way they are accustomed to speaking with and treating others, > and here comes Barry, throwing poo everywhere - Oh look, you flinched! > > But there is a lot more to any of us than such a simple and dare I say > neurotic game. Actually engaging in discussions of life, as the one ongoing > between Curtis and RC. > > So I conclude in my utmost prejudice that maybe some self-reflection would be > helpful for you, before summarily returning to your insults and antagonism > here on FFL. > > Its not that I particularly mind them. Its just that you have become a one > trick pony, and on here you can't just be the same old boring tired catalyst > of getting people to flinch. Responding intelligently would be a huge step > forward, minus the snark. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > If it helps, I do not remember having said unflattering words about you, > > so if I did they were in passing, and possibly in jest. I think your > > 'tude > > is both sane and rational, more than I can say about those who choose > > to obsess on me. Especially the ones who claim to be enlightened, and > > yet obsess anyway. What a wonder I must be to distract them from their > > one-pointed focus on eternity in such a way. > > > > My shriveled little heart thanks you for your wisdom, and wishes more > > TMers could learn from it. :-) > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > > > If anyone notices, I have torn at the Turq many times. I do recall the > > Turq has mentioned some unflattering words towards obba too. The > > difference is I do not spend my whole time taking every one of his words > > as a pain in the ass, and if he makes any sense, I leave him alone haha. > > What shocks me the most is when a "TM Meditator," tears his ass as some > > kind of outside the movement freak. That is disturbing to me, because if > > one is getting inner peace, why would one feel threatened by Turq's > > comments about TM, to the point of lashing out? > > > > > > Judy has pointed out many times the Turq has made an error in his > > use of TM words, and many others, haha, and at that point, there is no > > need for someone like me to step in because she called it and many times > > rightfully so. (Judy is goddess to me.) > > > > > > I am sure if I was hanging out in Amsterdam with the Turq, at a coffee > > house, rolling a...uh, whatever they have to roll there, and I said I > > had to take my 20, he may roll his eyes, at the same time respect my > > time into the Transcendence, as I feel that what works for me. I do not > > live TM like a cult and if other's do, that is their problem and not > > mine. : ) Barry is doing a pretty good job showing me the dark side of > > the movement mind set, yet I still like my TM..so far, I think. ; ) > > > > > > This is where, "Barry," can be free of my not, "theaten lil Barry and > > his shriveled heart." > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
whynotnow7: > What I meant by your shriveled little heart is > when I look into the negative space of what you > write on here (I mean that dimensionally as used > to describe art, not judgmentally), with your > rants and other expressions of meanness, I cannot > but help conclude that there is some steaming pile > of festering Barry that you ain't facing... > Turq reminds me of the one about the used car salesman. Customer comes in and says he is interested in buying a used car. Salesman: Look at this beauty - nice vinyl top, quieter ride inside, and higher resale value. Next customer comes in to see the same used car salesman. Salesman: Look at this beauty - no vinyl top, no roof rust, and it has a higher resale value!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
What I meant by your shriveled little heart is when I look into the negative space of what you write on here (I mean that dimensionally as used to describe art, not judgmentally), with your rants and other expressions of meanness, I cannot but help conclude that there is some steaming pile of festering Barry that you ain't facing. It isn't really there, but I have found a tendency in most humans to ignore our side that is really driving the works. True balance is achieved by looking at all of it, not as an obsessive check-marking, but just being in balance, looking at everything. When you engage in your game of button pushing, it is basically a very safe way of interacting with the forum, as is already making your prejudices known in what you write. There is no variety to it. It is choosing the most obvious ways to affront others, with the natural result that you win, because gee, that's not the way they are accustomed to speaking with and treating others, and here comes Barry, throwing poo everywhere - Oh look, you flinched! But there is a lot more to any of us than such a simple and dare I say neurotic game. Actually engaging in discussions of life, as the one ongoing between Curtis and RC. So I conclude in my utmost prejudice that maybe some self-reflection would be helpful for you, before summarily returning to your insults and antagonism here on FFL. Its not that I particularly mind them. Its just that you have become a one trick pony, and on here you can't just be the same old boring tired catalyst of getting people to flinch. Responding intelligently would be a huge step forward, minus the snark. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > If it helps, I do not remember having said unflattering words about you, > so if I did they were in passing, and possibly in jest. I think your > 'tude > is both sane and rational, more than I can say about those who choose > to obsess on me. Especially the ones who claim to be enlightened, and > yet obsess anyway. What a wonder I must be to distract them from their > one-pointed focus on eternity in such a way. > > My shriveled little heart thanks you for your wisdom, and wishes more > TMers could learn from it. :-) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > If anyone notices, I have torn at the Turq many times. I do recall the > Turq has mentioned some unflattering words towards obba too. The > difference is I do not spend my whole time taking every one of his words > as a pain in the ass, and if he makes any sense, I leave him alone haha. > What shocks me the most is when a "TM Meditator," tears his ass as some > kind of outside the movement freak. That is disturbing to me, because if > one is getting inner peace, why would one feel threatened by Turq's > comments about TM, to the point of lashing out? > > > > Judy has pointed out many times the Turq has made an error in his > use of TM words, and many others, haha, and at that point, there is no > need for someone like me to step in because she called it and many times > rightfully so. (Judy is goddess to me.) > > > > I am sure if I was hanging out in Amsterdam with the Turq, at a coffee > house, rolling a...uh, whatever they have to roll there, and I said I > had to take my 20, he may roll his eyes, at the same time respect my > time into the Transcendence, as I feel that what works for me. I do not > live TM like a cult and if other's do, that is their problem and not > mine. : ) Barry is doing a pretty good job showing me the dark side of > the movement mind set, yet I still like my TM..so far, I think. ; ) > > > > This is where, "Barry," can be free of my not, "theaten lil Barry and > his shriveled heart." >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
I think you are way off base here. I sell rudraksha beads... I have a 21 face bead from Java available right now for $14,000. Many people elect to just keep such expensive beads on an altar and not wear them while others will faithfully try to ingest something from the bead, some water. Please understand, information about Indian beads and objects is all over the internet. Some people are interested in ancient things and some people are interested in modern things. Yes, I have heard stories of all kinds of things while living in India. There are perfectly legal prescription drugs that some people may decide to overuse, or use in some contrary way, that certainly is not the fault of the physician. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" wrote: > > Really, $700 plus to wear a little brown bead or curio?$700 plus for > something that is NOT going to worn against the skin or soaked and drank? > Thats fundamentally dishonest of you to pretend that anyone would pay that to > do anything else with it. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > > > Thanks, that's a good point. I really have no interest in having people > > endanger their health. People do that everyday, drinking, smoking etc...So > > they don't need my help. > > > > Some former MMY students/teachers told me about Kaleshwar and from there I > > was fortunate to "get a connection" to Shirdi Sai Baba. > > > > Baba of course was neither Hindu nor Moslem ... my non-commercial FB site > > for Baba and my small work as healer is > > https://www.facebook.com/DivineEnergyHealing > > > > This is the "official" site maintained by the Trustees of Baba's Samadhai > > https://www.shrisaibabasansthan.org/INDEX.HTML > > > > Thanks you > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > > > > > > > Of course one would never recommend actually > > > > drinking the water the beads soak in. > > > > > > It looks like that's exactly what you're doing > > > on the Web site, though. > > > > > > You have a disclaimer on your Divine Energy > > > Healing site about consulting a physician and > > > always following medical advice. You need to > > > have something like that on the Navapashanam > > > site as well. Either that or remove the stuff > > > about drinking the bead-soaking water and > > > wearing the beads close to the skin. > > > > > > BTW, the Divine Energy Healing site is very > > > nicely done, I think. I also looked at Swami > > > Kaleshwar's site, and his record of charitable > > > projects is impressive. I had never heard of > > > him or Shirdi Sai Baba. How did you become a > > > student of Swami Kaleshwar, if I may ask? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In India some people do, and they eat many funny things there too. > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > evananda, it would be a good idea for you > > > > > to put at the bottom of your navapashanam > > > > > site (every page) a disclaimer such as the > > > > > following (from another site that sells > > > > > navapashanam beads): > > > > > > > > > > "IMPORTANT NOTICE Future Alchemy is > > > > > providing these extremely rare and > > > > > magical beads as talisman and blessing > > > > > substances ONLY. One's decision to wear > > > > > the bead next to the skin and/or soak > > > > > the bead in liquid and drink it is > > > > > entirely personal - THE OWNERS OF > > > > > FUTURE ALCHEMY NEITHER RECOMMEND NOR > > > > > ADVISE THIS PRACTICE. While we are > > > > > extremely pleased to offer such an > > > > > amazing alchemical substance, WE CANNOT > > > > > BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY EFFECTS, > > > > > POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, THAT COME FROM > > > > > ITS USE." > > > > > > > > > > Or better still, get a lawyer to write > > > > > an even more ironclad disclaimer for you. > > > > > > > > > > Mike Doughney, Vaj, and others on this > > > > > forum would have no inhibitions about > > > > > notifying the FDA (which has its own > > > > > ideas as to what it wants to be involved > > > > > in; it doesn't matter what *you* think). > > > > > > > > > > Even if this stuff *were* harmless, even if > > > > > it *did* bring about miraculous healing, > > > > > you're on potentially dangerous legal ground, > > > > > at least in the U.S. > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
If it helps, I do not remember having said unflattering words about you, so if I did they were in passing, and possibly in jest. I think your 'tude is both sane and rational, more than I can say about those who choose to obsess on me. Especially the ones who claim to be enlightened, and yet obsess anyway. What a wonder I must be to distract them from their one-pointed focus on eternity in such a way. My shriveled little heart thanks you for your wisdom, and wishes more TMers could learn from it. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > If anyone notices, I have torn at the Turq many times. I do recall the Turq has mentioned some unflattering words towards obba too. The difference is I do not spend my whole time taking every one of his words as a pain in the ass, and if he makes any sense, I leave him alone haha. What shocks me the most is when a "TM Meditator," tears his ass as some kind of outside the movement freak. That is disturbing to me, because if one is getting inner peace, why would one feel threatened by Turq's comments about TM, to the point of lashing out? > > Judy has pointed out many times the Turq has made an error in his use of TM words, and many others, haha, and at that point, there is no need for someone like me to step in because she called it and many times rightfully so. (Judy is goddess to me.) > > I am sure if I was hanging out in Amsterdam with the Turq, at a coffee house, rolling a...uh, whatever they have to roll there, and I said I had to take my 20, he may roll his eyes, at the same time respect my time into the Transcendence, as I feel that what works for me. I do not live TM like a cult and if other's do, that is their problem and not mine. : ) Barry is doing a pretty good job showing me the dark side of the movement mind set, yet I still like my TM..so far, I think. ; ) > > This is where, "Barry," can be free of my not, "theaten lil Barry and his shriveled heart."
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
If anyone notices, I have torn at the Turq many times. I do recall the Turq has mentioned some unflattering words towards obba too. The difference is I do not spend my whole time taking every one of his words as a pain in the ass, and if he makes any sense, I leave him alone haha. What shocks me the most is when a "TM Meditator," tears his ass as some kind of outside the movement freak. That is disturbing to me, because if one is getting inner peace, why would one feel threatened by Turq's comments about TM, to the point of lashing out? Judy has pointed out many times the Turq has made an error in his use of TM words, and many others, haha, and at that point, there is no need for someone like me to step in because she called it and many times rightfully so. (Judy is goddess to me.) I am sure if I was hanging out in Amsterdam with the Turq, at a coffee house, rolling a...uh, whatever they have to roll there, and I said I had to take my 20, he may roll his eyes, at the same time respect my time into the Transcendence, as I feel that what works for me. I do not live TM like a cult and if other's do, that is their problem and not mine. : ) Barry is doing a pretty good job showing me the dark side of the movement mind set, yet I still like my TM..so far, I think. ; ) This is where, "Barry," can be free of my not, "theaten lil Barry and his shriveled heart." --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > I am pretty sure any and all of them would react just like the rest of us do, > if you decided to lie and deliberately distort their words and criticize them > personally. What you are really listing are the people on FFL who don't > threaten lil' Barry and his shriveled heart. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > > > LOL. I like your paragraph about this being an intimidating place. > > > > My perspective is different. I think it's only an > > "intimidating" place for those who feel as if they > > have an image that needs protecting. Those who have > > a more fluid personality, and feel no need to con- > > stantly defend themselves and their view of who and > > what they are don't seem to find it intimidating at > > all. In that ilk I include notables such as Curtis, > > you, Alex, Rick, Marek, Sal, Susan/wayback, tartbrain, > > Denise, Xeno, and many others, who never seem to worry > > about it. The ability to just be oneself seems to be > > its own reward. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
I am pretty sure any and all of them would react just like the rest of us do, if you decided to lie and deliberately distort their words and criticize them personally. What you are really listing are the people on FFL who don't threaten lil' Barry and his shriveled heart. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > LOL. I like your paragraph about this being an intimidating place. > > My perspective is different. I think it's only an > "intimidating" place for those who feel as if they > have an image that needs protecting. Those who have > a more fluid personality, and feel no need to con- > stantly defend themselves and their view of who and > what they are don't seem to find it intimidating at > all. In that ilk I include notables such as Curtis, > you, Alex, Rick, Marek, Sal, Susan/wayback, tartbrain, > Denise, Xeno, and many others, who never seem to worry > about it. The ability to just be oneself seems to be > its own reward. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
I couldn't stop laughing when I first heard it a while ago! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > This version is equally fuckilicious and fuckilightful. > > > > From: whynotnow7 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:09 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > >  > http://tinyurl.com/3rrhnb3 > > Creative Commons license: Public Domain > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote: > > > > Yaay !!! > > > > > > On Oct 17, 2011, at 11:47 PM, Denise Evans wrote: > > > > > Yikes! Thanks Ravi, I need to fuckin' wake up. Maybe that immersion > > > weekend with Amma did some good after all. Started to shock me right out > > > of my years-long depressed reverie :) > > > > > > From: Ravi Yogi > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:23 PM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > > > > > > > Damn! Ãâ I thought I had something figured out :) Ãâ Ãâ > > > > > > > > Ya'll are so far out of my league...I knew that for sure when someone > > > > posted the Osho video (George Carlin originating) on the many > > > > uses/meanings of the word "f..k" Ãâ after one of my sad rants. Ãâ > > > > (Kinda like the word love, actually.) Ãâ Pulled me right out of the > > > > massive shame attack I was in. > > > > > > That would be me and I said - "If fuck is your favorite word, you are not > > > having an intellectual hard-on :-) ". > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/286402 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOYb_xlcNc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: authfriend jstein@ > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 7:37 PM > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > > > > > > > > > > Ãâ > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The comedy routines today are just LOL > > > > > funny (at least in the level of > > > > > multiverse I'm residing in). ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâ > > > > > > > > Thank you, thank you. We'll be here all > > > > week. > > > > > > > > > And, come on now..."the bait" was > > > > > definitely directed at "her." > > > > > > > > Don't think so, Denise. He knows I'm not a > > > > wallower in heavy metals. And it sure never > > > > occurred to me that anything he said in that > > > > first post was directed at me. I think he > > > > was just stuck for a putdown in response to > > > > my editorial comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Mike Doughney mike@ > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:31 PM > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You couldn't resist taking the bait, could you? > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, stinging response, Mike! > > > > > > > > > > That "bait" was a tiny bit of deliberately exaggerated hyperbole that > > > > > was in no way directed at you, but I had a pretty good idea it would > > > > > very likely result in you running up your post count before the end > > > > > of the evening. > > > > > > > > > > "Pushing" your "buttons" is barely avoidable, since for more than a > > > > > decade and a half you've instantly reacted to such barely noticeable > > > > > bits of rhetoric from certain individuals, and had an insatiable need > > > > > to tell me and others what we already know. None of it actually has > > > > > anything to do with you, except in your own warped and narcissistic > > > > > head. Just like Ravi, you're proud to be an asshole, and not much > > > > > else, here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > LOL. I like your paragraph about this being an intimidating place. My perspective is different. I think it's only an "intimidating" place for those who feel as if they have an image that needs protecting. Those who have a more fluid personality, and feel no need to con- stantly defend themselves and their view of who and what they are don't seem to find it intimidating at all. In that ilk I include notables such as Curtis, you, Alex, Rick, Marek, Sal, Susan/wayback, tartbrain, Denise, Xeno, and many others, who never seem to worry about it. The ability to just be oneself seems to be its own reward.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
LOL. I like your paragraph about this being an intimidating place. We are all stuck here, this could be appropriate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A_SKMNxYmM It is nice to be here with you all, in a strange kind of way. : ) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > Awww...that's so sweet. Â I don't know why everyone is so __ about you > (never mind, yes I do). > > I do find this place intimidating..but I figure I landed here for a reason > (or some weird cosmic joke). Â Overall, I find this much better entertainment > than Court TV, pretty informative, and the most unusual blend of sincerity > and BS I've every encountered. Â And its helping me in other confusing ways. > Â I'm feeling a shift insideback to the living. > > I've cruised through Byron Katie and am moving on to Susan Campbell and am > reading the book "Getting Real"...wait, that doesn't apply here (except that > it does). Â > > > > From: authfriend > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:22 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > Â > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > > > Damn! I thought I had something figured > > out :) > > > > Ya'll are so far out of my league... > > Naah. We've just been at it forever. It's > sort of like the one about the prisoners > who tell jokes by the number because they've > heard them so often, they've memorized them. > > 1ST INMATE: 803! > > INMATES: HAHAHAHAHA!! > > 2ND INMATE: 385! > > INMATES: HOHOHOHOHO!! > > NEW INMATE: 517! > > [silence] > > NEW INMATE: Why didn't anybody laugh? > > OLD INMATE: Don't feel bad. You know, some > folks can tell a joke, some can't. > > (Oldie but goodie.) > > > I knew that for sure when someone > > posted the Osho video (George Carlin > > originating) on the many uses/meanings > > of the word "f..k" after one of my > > sad rants. (Kinda like the word love, > > actually.) > > Heh...! > > > Pulled me right out of the massive > > shame attack I was in. > > Aw, Denise...hope you've stayed out of > it. You ain't got nuttin' to be ashamed > of. Such a useless and destructive > emotion, and you're such a bright light > here. > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOYb_xlcNc > > But it won't hurt any of us to watch this > again. What a showman he was. >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
This version is equally fuckilicious and fuckilightful. From: whynotnow7 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing http://tinyurl.com/3rrhnb3 Creative Commons license: Public Domain --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote: > > Yaay !!! > > > On Oct 17, 2011, at 11:47 PM, Denise Evans wrote: > > > Yikes! Thanks Ravi, I need to fuckin' wake up. Maybe that immersion > > weekend with Amma did some good after all. Started to shock me right out > > of my years-long depressed reverie :) > > > > From: Ravi Yogi > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:23 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > > > > > Damn!  I thought I had something figured out :)   > > > > > > Ya'll are so far out of my league...I knew that for sure when someone > > > posted the Osho video (George Carlin originating) on the many > > > uses/meanings of the word "f..k"  after one of my sad rants.  (Kinda > > > like the word love, actually.)  Pulled me right out of the massive > > > shame attack I was in. > > > > That would be me and I said - "If fuck is your favorite word, you are not > > having an intellectual hard-on :-) ". > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/286402 > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOYb_xlcNc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: authfriend jstein@ > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 7:37 PM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > > > > > > >  > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: > > > > > > > > The comedy routines today are just LOL > > > > funny (at least in the level of > > > > multiverse I'm residing in).  > > > > > > Thank you, thank you. We'll be here all > > > week. > > > > > > > And, come on now..."the bait" was > > > > definitely directed at "her." > > > > > > Don't think so, Denise. He knows I'm not a > > > wallower in heavy metals. And it sure never > > > occurred to me that anything he said in that > > > first post was directed at me. I think he > > > was just stuck for a putdown in response to > > > my editorial comments. > > > > > > > > > > From: Mike Doughney mike@ > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:31 PM > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You couldn't resist taking the bait, could you? > > > > > > > > > > Oh, stinging response, Mike! > > > > > > > > That "bait" was a tiny bit of deliberately exaggerated hyperbole that > > > > was in no way directed at you, but I had a pretty good idea it would > > > > very likely result in you running up your post count before the end of > > > > the evening. > > > > > > > > "Pushing" your "buttons" is barely avoidable, since for more than a > > > > decade and a half you've instantly reacted to such barely noticeable > > > > bits of rhetoric from certain individuals, and had an insatiable need > > > > to tell me and others what we already know. None of it actually has > > > > anything to do with you, except in your own warped and narcissistic > > > > head. Just like Ravi, you're proud to be an asshole, and not much else, > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Awww...that's so sweet. I don't know why everyone is so __ about you (never mind, yes I do). I do find this place intimidating..but I figure I landed here for a reason (or some weird cosmic joke). Overall, I find this much better entertainment than Court TV, pretty informative, and the most unusual blend of sincerity and BS I've every encountered. And its helping me in other confusing ways. I'm feeling a shift insideback to the living. I've cruised through Byron Katie and am moving on to Susan Campbell and am reading the book "Getting Real"...wait, that doesn't apply here (except that it does). From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > Damn! I thought I had something figured > out :) > > Ya'll are so far out of my league... Naah. We've just been at it forever. It's sort of like the one about the prisoners who tell jokes by the number because they've heard them so often, they've memorized them. 1ST INMATE: 803! INMATES: HAHAHAHAHA!! 2ND INMATE: 385! INMATES: HOHOHOHOHO!! NEW INMATE: 517! [silence] NEW INMATE: Why didn't anybody laugh? OLD INMATE: Don't feel bad. You know, some folks can tell a joke, some can't. (Oldie but goodie.) > I knew that for sure when someone > posted the Osho video (George Carlin > originating) on the many uses/meanings > of the word "f..k" after one of my > sad rants. (Kinda like the word love, > actually.) Heh...! > Pulled me right out of the massive > shame attack I was in. Aw, Denise...hope you've stayed out of it. You ain't got nuttin' to be ashamed of. Such a useless and destructive emotion, and you're such a bright light here. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOYb_xlcNc But it won't hurt any of us to watch this again. What a showman he was.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Lol.. Thanks for the laughs, Judy. On Oct 18, 2011, at 5:34 PM, "authfriend" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote: > > > > No way - Judy, you smoke? > > Let's put it this way: I am *smokin'*. > > (No, I used to smoke but I don't now.) > > > If you do it would be real cool to meet you at > > least once, smoke together > > You 'n' me, smokin' together--outtasight! > > > and laugh about > > (Dumb)az grey and Vakra Buddhi. > > Goodness knows we've smoked 'em out time after > time here... > > > On Oct 18, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > On Oct 18, 2011, at 1:36 AM, azgrey wrote: > > > > > >> At least they won't let her have all those cats anymore. > > >> My speculation is all the secondhand smoke they were > > >> exposed to resulted in some seriously unhappy kitties. > > > > > > > > > Does Judy smoke? > > > > > > Not so surprising I guess. > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Really, $700 plus to wear a little brown bead or curio?$700 plus for something that is NOT going to worn against the skin or soaked and drank? Thats fundamentally dishonest of you to pretend that anyone would pay that to do anything else with it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > Thanks, that's a good point. I really have no interest in having people > endanger their health. People do that everyday, drinking, smoking etc...So > they don't need my help. > > Some former MMY students/teachers told me about Kaleshwar and from there I > was fortunate to "get a connection" to Shirdi Sai Baba. > > Baba of course was neither Hindu nor Moslem ... my non-commercial FB site for > Baba and my small work as healer is > https://www.facebook.com/DivineEnergyHealing > > This is the "official" site maintained by the Trustees of Baba's Samadhai > https://www.shrisaibabasansthan.org/INDEX.HTML > > Thanks you > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > > > > > Of course one would never recommend actually > > > drinking the water the beads soak in. > > > > It looks like that's exactly what you're doing > > on the Web site, though. > > > > You have a disclaimer on your Divine Energy > > Healing site about consulting a physician and > > always following medical advice. You need to > > have something like that on the Navapashanam > > site as well. Either that or remove the stuff > > about drinking the bead-soaking water and > > wearing the beads close to the skin. > > > > BTW, the Divine Energy Healing site is very > > nicely done, I think. I also looked at Swami > > Kaleshwar's site, and his record of charitable > > projects is impressive. I had never heard of > > him or Shirdi Sai Baba. How did you become a > > student of Swami Kaleshwar, if I may ask? > > > > > > > > > > In India some people do, and they eat many funny things there too. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > evananda, it would be a good idea for you > > > > to put at the bottom of your navapashanam > > > > site (every page) a disclaimer such as the > > > > following (from another site that sells > > > > navapashanam beads): > > > > > > > > "IMPORTANT NOTICE Future Alchemy is > > > > providing these extremely rare and > > > > magical beads as talisman and blessing > > > > substances ONLY. One's decision to wear > > > > the bead next to the skin and/or soak > > > > the bead in liquid and drink it is > > > > entirely personal - THE OWNERS OF > > > > FUTURE ALCHEMY NEITHER RECOMMEND NOR > > > > ADVISE THIS PRACTICE. While we are > > > > extremely pleased to offer such an > > > > amazing alchemical substance, WE CANNOT > > > > BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY EFFECTS, > > > > POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, THAT COME FROM > > > > ITS USE." > > > > > > > > Or better still, get a lawyer to write > > > > an even more ironclad disclaimer for you. > > > > > > > > Mike Doughney, Vaj, and others on this > > > > forum would have no inhibitions about > > > > notifying the FDA (which has its own > > > > ideas as to what it wants to be involved > > > > in; it doesn't matter what *you* think). > > > > > > > > Even if this stuff *were* harmless, even if > > > > it *did* bring about miraculous healing, > > > > you're on potentially dangerous legal ground, > > > > at least in the U.S. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote: > > No way - Judy, you smoke? Let's put it this way: I am *smokin'*. (No, I used to smoke but I don't now.) > If you do it would be real cool to meet you at > least once, smoke together You 'n' me, smokin' together--outtasight! > and laugh about > (Dumb)az grey and Vakra Buddhi. Goodness knows we've smoked 'em out time after time here... > On Oct 18, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Vaj wrote: > > > > > On Oct 18, 2011, at 1:36 AM, azgrey wrote: > > > >> At least they won't let her have all those cats anymore. > >> My speculation is all the secondhand smoke they were > >> exposed to resulted in some seriously unhappy kitties. > > > > > > Does Judy smoke? > > > > Not so surprising I guess.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > Kidding? Huh! ; ) > > How do I know either of you are a man or woman? > > Well, maybe you haven't been reading the forum for > long enough. I think our respective genders are > pretty obvious from our posts. > > > Believe me, I have listened to same gender puppy love > > bashing and it is the same as hetero. LOL. Absolutely! > > Oh, I'm sure it is. I'm just saying that if we *were* > the same gender, it probably wouldn't occur to most > people here to think there was anything going on > beyond mutual dislike. I mean, nobody's suggested > that Barry and whynotnow, or Barry and Ravi, or Barry > and Robin have a secret attraction. > > And only Barry could imagine that Sal and I or Ruth > and I were romantically inclined. ;-) > I am kidding with you, Judy. It is cute how you both interact. You have good chemistry with him? LOL Barry wishes he can imagine 3 women or more getting romantically inclined because he says he is neither man or woman as he reaches into his "bag of popcorn" at the theatre. lol > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2oEmPP5dTM > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > P.S.: I know you're just kidding around. But > > > this has come up on a regular basis, over and > > > over, and I think some people have a lingering > > > suspicion there must be something to it. > > > > > > If we were two men, or two women, I doubt it > > > would even occur to anybody to make the > > > suggestion. But somehow because we're of > > > opposite genders, folks seem to think there > > > must be some underlying attraction. > > > > > > There isn't. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Judy and Barry, fess up. What kind of hot relationship did > > > > > or are you two having? > > > > > > > > Obbajeeba, that is so *old*. You're only about > > > > the 50th person to make that suggestion. > > > > > > > > For the record: Barry and I have *never* liked > > > > each other. Trust me on this. How could I like > > > > somebody I'm convinced is a fraud and a phony? > > > > How could he like somebody who keeps exposing > > > > him as a fraud and a phony? > > > > > > > > We first encountered each other 16 years ago on > > > > alt.meditation.transcendental. If our opinion of > > > > each other has only *declined* over the years, > > > > it ain't likely ever to get much better. > > > > > > > > 'Nuff said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is obvious, there is some chemistry between you. > > > > > Was Judy the one Barry was banging when the Merv show incident came > > > > > out? > > > > > Barry is probably not in some coffee house in Amsterdam, he is most > > > > > likely sitting right next to or Judy is sitting on his lap typing all > > > > > this. Barry, puffing on a cigar, five o'clock shadow, robe open, grey > > > > > hair fluffing out as Judy thinks kitty, rubs her hand on the keys, > > > > > stroking the ever graceful polite compliments he suggests. > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [http://www.cats-on-tshirts.com/images/cat_designs_200x200/design_missCr\ > > > > > > azyCat_wh.jpg] > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
No way - Judy, you smoke? If you do it would be real cool to meet you at least once, smoke together and laugh about (Dumb)az grey and Vakra Buddhi. On Oct 18, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Vaj wrote: > > On Oct 18, 2011, at 1:36 AM, azgrey wrote: > >> At least they won't let her have all those cats anymore. >> My speculation is all the secondhand smoke they were >> exposed to resulted in some seriously unhappy kitties. > > > Does Judy smoke? > > Not so surprising I guess. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
This is good advice. It pays to be cautious. Others making offerings in the land of woo have found unanticipated legal difficulties. Look at the TM disclaimers on their materials. You basically have to sign off on legally agreeing that you agree whatever-it-is does not work even though at least for some of the things, there will be effects, and some beneficial ones too, if you purchase the product or service or whatever. If you are offering anything for remuneration, use a disclaimer, it does not matter if you are commercial or non-profit, or think you are in some other category. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > evananda, it would be a good idea for you > to put at the bottom of your navapashanam > site (every page) a disclaimer such as the > following (from another site that sells > navapashanam beads): > > "IMPORTANT NOTICE Future Alchemy is > providing these extremely rare and > magical beads as talisman and blessing > substances ONLY. One's decision to wear > the bead next to the skin and/or soak > the bead in liquid and drink it is > entirely personal - THE OWNERS OF > FUTURE ALCHEMY NEITHER RECOMMEND NOR > ADVISE THIS PRACTICE. While we are > extremely pleased to offer such an > amazing alchemical substance, WE CANNOT > BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY EFFECTS, > POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, THAT COME FROM > ITS USE." > > Or better still, get a lawyer to write > an even more ironclad disclaimer for you. > > Mike Doughney, Vaj, and others on this > forum would have no inhibitions about > notifying the FDA (which has its own > ideas as to what it wants to be involved > in; it doesn't matter what *you* think). > > Even if this stuff *were* harmless, even if > it *did* bring about miraculous healing, > you're on potentially dangerous legal ground, > at least in the U.S. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > > > Siddha Pharmacy > > > > Alchemical ideas dominate Siddha medicine. Although alchemy was not the > > primary aim of Siddha medicine, they wanted to evolve drugs that could > > arrest the decay of the body. But this could not be achieved by drugs that > > which themselves are subject to decay such as drugs of vegetable origin. > > To prevent decay of the medicines began the preparation of medicines that > > do not lose their potency with the lapse of time. These medicines can be > > administered in small doses. They are available in all seasons and can be > > preserved. The Siddhars knew of the occurrence of the metallic compounds, > > ores, and their knowledge was so advanced that they could prepare them from > > simpler materials (6). Agasthiyar , Thirumular and Bogar are three of the > > Siddhars in the lineage of the 18 Siddhars. They have contributed to the > > preparation to these medicines. As the universe is composed of the five > > Bhutas so are the medicines. Some of the methods used by the Siddhas > > still survive under a veil of secrecy. Certain mercury and arsenic > > compounds are manufactured only in certain families and the methods are a > > closely guarded secret. > > > > > > > > Mercury > > > > In North America, mercury based medicine are banned although the dental > > field still uses mercury amalgam fillings. Most practitioners would caution > > against using some Ayurvedic, Siddha, and Tibetan medicine due to the > > mercury and lead. This is largely due to the ignorance, as the mercury > > used in these medicines are completely transformed into inert compound or > > ores (bhasma) through a 18 step process before being prescribed as > > medicine. (On the other hand it has been proven via X-ray that every time a > > person with mercury amalgam fillings chew their food they swallow a > > little of the mercury in their fillings.) > > > > Mercury occupies a very high place in Siddha medicine. It is used as a > > catalytic agent in many of its medicines. When mercury is used it is used > > in combination with sulfur. The addition of sulfur is to control the > > fluidity of mercury this converts to mercuric sulfite which is insoluble in > > mineral acids. Siddhas used 5 forms of mercury. (1) Mercury metal-rasam (2) > > red sulfide of mercury-lingam (3) mercury chloride- veeram (4) mercury > > subchloride (mercury chloride)-pooram (5) red oxide of mercury-rasa > > chenduram. Ordinary rasa chenduram (red oxide of mercury) is a poison but > > when it is processed as Poorna chandrodayam according to Siddha practice, > > it becomes ambrosia. Research is necessary to solve such apparent riddles > > of the transformation of these admittedly poisonous compounds. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm never disappointed when I visit Fairfield Life, as long as I assume > > > beforehand that I'm going to encounter at least a few examples of > > > world-class stupidity, sometimes of the let's-go-wallow-in-h
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
On Oct 18, 2011, at 1:36 AM, azgrey wrote: > At least they won't let her have all those cats anymore. > My speculation is all the secondhand smoke they were > exposed to resulted in some seriously unhappy kitties. Does Judy smoke? Not so surprising I guess.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > Kidding? Huh! ; ) > How do I know either of you are a man or woman? Well, maybe you haven't been reading the forum for long enough. I think our respective genders are pretty obvious from our posts. > Believe me, I have listened to same gender puppy love > bashing and it is the same as hetero. LOL. Absolutely! Oh, I'm sure it is. I'm just saying that if we *were* the same gender, it probably wouldn't occur to most people here to think there was anything going on beyond mutual dislike. I mean, nobody's suggested that Barry and whynotnow, or Barry and Ravi, or Barry and Robin have a secret attraction. And only Barry could imagine that Sal and I or Ruth and I were romantically inclined. ;-) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2oEmPP5dTM > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > P.S.: I know you're just kidding around. But > > this has come up on a regular basis, over and > > over, and I think some people have a lingering > > suspicion there must be something to it. > > > > If we were two men, or two women, I doubt it > > would even occur to anybody to make the > > suggestion. But somehow because we're of > > opposite genders, folks seem to think there > > must be some underlying attraction. > > > > There isn't. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > > > > > Judy and Barry, fess up. What kind of hot relationship did > > > > or are you two having? > > > > > > Obbajeeba, that is so *old*. You're only about > > > the 50th person to make that suggestion. > > > > > > For the record: Barry and I have *never* liked > > > each other. Trust me on this. How could I like > > > somebody I'm convinced is a fraud and a phony? > > > How could he like somebody who keeps exposing > > > him as a fraud and a phony? > > > > > > We first encountered each other 16 years ago on > > > alt.meditation.transcendental. If our opinion of > > > each other has only *declined* over the years, > > > it ain't likely ever to get much better. > > > > > > 'Nuff said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is obvious, there is some chemistry between you. > > > > Was Judy the one Barry was banging when the Merv show incident came > > > > out? > > > > Barry is probably not in some coffee house in Amsterdam, he is most > > > > likely sitting right next to or Judy is sitting on his lap typing all > > > > this. Barry, puffing on a cigar, five o'clock shadow, robe open, grey > > > > hair fluffing out as Judy thinks kitty, rubs her hand on the keys, > > > > stroking the ever graceful polite compliments he suggests. > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [http://www.cats-on-tshirts.com/images/cat_designs_200x200/design_missCr\ > > > > > azyCat_wh.jpg] > > > > > :-) > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > Cats are very nice. I like them as much as Alf did. > Cat. The other white meat. I currently live in a household that involves both my dogs and, to their dismay, cats. So I have developed an appreciation for both species. My all-time favorite cat thang is this classic Kliban cartoon: [http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CjM2on2SkX4/TKvSHF8nIBI/DBE/qv1INlzVC\ Pc/s1600/eatcatmp.jpg]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Tom, Let's make it easy from now on - just provide a list of things you don't hate - a real short and sweet list. Or admit you are the angel of unconditional hatred and that no such list exists..LOL.. On Oct 18, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Tom Pall wrote: > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:20 PM, whynotnow7 wrote: > > I like the kitties too - we have several that use our yard for lounging, > drinking and hunting. A big orange one likes to rest on the birdbath right > next to the Buddha. We also have several hummingbirds, one of my favorite > creatures ever. So precise, going for each drop of nectar in each flower, > without a wasted movement - amazing! Their iridescent feathers are beautiful > too, emerald colored. > > > Cats are very nice. I like them as much as Alf did.Cat. The other white > meat. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
>From one angle, its like a perpetual motion machine: Barry ignores the gorilla >next to him, causing inadvertent leakage onto FFL, which you immediately >detect and point out, which he then must inhibit as an outlet, so pressure >from you, AND the unacknowledged gorilla right next to him, squeezes him up >pretty tight. Which he then releases through leakage onto FFL...and the cycle >repeats itself. Endless fuel for pointing out, or an endless supply of clay pigeons for shooting down, or whatever. Just don't look at the gorilla, whatever you do, don't look. It is a fascinating game he plays. Unknowingly I am sure, and yet, there he is behind his glass curtain, tapping away. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > Judy and Barry, fess up. What kind of hot relationship did > > or are you two having? > > Obbajeeba, that is so *old*. You're only about > the 50th person to make that suggestion. > > For the record: Barry and I have *never* liked > each other. Trust me on this. How could I like > somebody I'm convinced is a fraud and a phony? > How could he like somebody who keeps exposing > him as a fraud and a phony? > > We first encountered each other 16 years ago on > alt.meditation.transcendental. If our opinion of > each other has only *declined* over the years, > it ain't likely ever to get much better. > > 'Nuff said. > > > > > > > It is obvious, there is some chemistry between you. > > Was Judy the one Barry was banging when the Merv show incident came out? > > Barry is probably not in some coffee house in Amsterdam, he is most likely > > sitting right next to or Judy is sitting on his lap typing all this. Barry, > > puffing on a cigar, five o'clock shadow, robe open, grey hair fluffing out > > as Judy thinks kitty, rubs her hand on the keys, stroking the ever graceful > > polite compliments he suggests. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > > > > [http://www.cats-on-tshirts.com/images/cat_designs_200x200/design_missCr\ > > > azyCat_wh.jpg] > > > :-) >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:20 PM, whynotnow7 wrote: > I like the kitties too - we have several that use our yard for lounging, > drinking and hunting. A big orange one likes to rest on the birdbath right > next to the Buddha. We also have several hummingbirds, one of my favorite > creatures ever. So precise, going for each drop of nectar in each flower, > without a wasted movement - amazing! Their iridescent feathers are beautiful > too, emerald colored. > > Cats are very nice. I like them as much as Alf did.Cat. The other white meat.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Yes they were so precious. Oh and I love Orange tabbies. I once took in a Orange tabby who seemed to have been obviously abandoned. He was loving but he would fart really terribly lying down right next to my face :-), but I couldn't push him away since he was so loving. On Oct 18, 2011, at 10:20 AM, "whynotnow7" wrote: > I like the kitties too - we have several that use our yard for lounging, > drinking and hunting. A big orange one likes to rest on the birdbath right > next to the Buddha. We also have several hummingbirds, one of my favorite > creatures ever. So precise, going for each drop of nectar in each flower, > without a wasted movement - amazing! Their iridescent feathers are beautiful > too, emerald colored. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote: > > > > A beautiful picture Barry, all those beautiful cats going to the beautiful > > nice crazy lady Judy :-) > > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > > From: turquoiseb > > > Date: October 18, 2011 12:59:18 AM PDT > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > Reply-To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Always a pleasure to have you drop in Mr. Doughney, but > > > > > it might be better if you provide some advance notice > > > > > because Judy seems to develop symptoms of severe > > > > > anxiety attacks that coincide with your arrival. Say, you > > > > > wouldn't be related to that nice Mr. Skolnik would you? > > > > > > > > > > At least they won't let her have all those cats anymore. > > > > > My speculation is all the secondhand smoke they were > > > > > exposed to resulted in some seriously unhappy kitties. > > > > > > > > I have to admit, AZ, that among all of the many > > > > theories proposed here on FFL to try to explain > > > > why Judy is so chronically angry and why she acts > > > > the way she does, your "cat lady" theory is the best. > > > > > > > > Doesn't it just FIT? An already-angry 70-year-old > > > > woman with no friends, living alone in Buttfuck, NJ, > > > > and what happens? The authorities come and take away > > > > her dozens of cats for public health reasons. But > > > > they don't take away the cigarettes, so she fires > > > > one up, allows the nicotine to further poison her > > > > already-poisonous system, and decides to post to FFL, > > > > thinking, "I NEED an argument." > > > > > > > > So she starts one with Curtis, quickly turning it > > > > into an opportunity to dump on Vaj, since he won't > > > > argue with her. Then she starts another argument > > > > with Mike, quickly turning that into an opportunity > > > > to dump on Barry, because he won't argue with her, > > > > either. It's Maharishi-like: "Every post is a perfect > > > > opportunity to start an argument, and every argument > > > > is the perfect opportunity to re-run the obsessions > > > > I have already prepared." :-) > > > > > > > > Good fantasy image of her. Explains pretty much > > > > everything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Thanks, that's a good point. I really have no interest in having people endanger their health. People do that everyday, drinking, smoking etc...So they don't need my help. Some former MMY students/teachers told me about Kaleshwar and from there I was fortunate to "get a connection" to Shirdi Sai Baba. Baba of course was neither Hindu nor Moslem ... my non-commercial FB site for Baba and my small work as healer is https://www.facebook.com/DivineEnergyHealing This is the "official" site maintained by the Trustees of Baba's Samadhai https://www.shrisaibabasansthan.org/INDEX.HTML Thanks you --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > > > Of course one would never recommend actually > > drinking the water the beads soak in. > > It looks like that's exactly what you're doing > on the Web site, though. > > You have a disclaimer on your Divine Energy > Healing site about consulting a physician and > always following medical advice. You need to > have something like that on the Navapashanam > site as well. Either that or remove the stuff > about drinking the bead-soaking water and > wearing the beads close to the skin. > > BTW, the Divine Energy Healing site is very > nicely done, I think. I also looked at Swami > Kaleshwar's site, and his record of charitable > projects is impressive. I had never heard of > him or Shirdi Sai Baba. How did you become a > student of Swami Kaleshwar, if I may ask? > > > > > In India some people do, and they eat many funny things there too. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > evananda, it would be a good idea for you > > > to put at the bottom of your navapashanam > > > site (every page) a disclaimer such as the > > > following (from another site that sells > > > navapashanam beads): > > > > > > "IMPORTANT NOTICE Future Alchemy is > > > providing these extremely rare and > > > magical beads as talisman and blessing > > > substances ONLY. One's decision to wear > > > the bead next to the skin and/or soak > > > the bead in liquid and drink it is > > > entirely personal - THE OWNERS OF > > > FUTURE ALCHEMY NEITHER RECOMMEND NOR > > > ADVISE THIS PRACTICE. While we are > > > extremely pleased to offer such an > > > amazing alchemical substance, WE CANNOT > > > BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY EFFECTS, > > > POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, THAT COME FROM > > > ITS USE." > > > > > > Or better still, get a lawyer to write > > > an even more ironclad disclaimer for you. > > > > > > Mike Doughney, Vaj, and others on this > > > forum would have no inhibitions about > > > notifying the FDA (which has its own > > > ideas as to what it wants to be involved > > > in; it doesn't matter what *you* think). > > > > > > Even if this stuff *were* harmless, even if > > > it *did* bring about miraculous healing, > > > you're on potentially dangerous legal ground, > > > at least in the U.S. >
Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
I like the kitties too - we have several that use our yard for lounging, drinking and hunting. A big orange one likes to rest on the birdbath right next to the Buddha. We also have several hummingbirds, one of my favorite creatures ever. So precise, going for each drop of nectar in each flower, without a wasted movement - amazing! Their iridescent feathers are beautiful too, emerald colored. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote: > > A beautiful picture Barry, all those beautiful cats going to the beautiful > nice crazy lady Judy :-) > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: turquoiseb > > Date: October 18, 2011 12:59:18 AM PDT > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > Reply-To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Always a pleasure to have you drop in Mr. Doughney, but > > > > it might be better if you provide some advance notice > > > > because Judy seems to develop symptoms of severe > > > > anxiety attacks that coincide with your arrival. Say, you > > > > wouldn't be related to that nice Mr. Skolnik would you? > > > > > > > > At least they won't let her have all those cats anymore. > > > > My speculation is all the secondhand smoke they were > > > > exposed to resulted in some seriously unhappy kitties. > > > > > > I have to admit, AZ, that among all of the many > > > theories proposed here on FFL to try to explain > > > why Judy is so chronically angry and why she acts > > > the way she does, your "cat lady" theory is the best. > > > > > > Doesn't it just FIT? An already-angry 70-year-old > > > woman with no friends, living alone in Buttfuck, NJ, > > > and what happens? The authorities come and take away > > > her dozens of cats for public health reasons. But > > > they don't take away the cigarettes, so she fires > > > one up, allows the nicotine to further poison her > > > already-poisonous system, and decides to post to FFL, > > > thinking, "I NEED an argument." > > > > > > So she starts one with Curtis, quickly turning it > > > into an opportunity to dump on Vaj, since he won't > > > argue with her. Then she starts another argument > > > with Mike, quickly turning that into an opportunity > > > to dump on Barry, because he won't argue with her, > > > either. It's Maharishi-like: "Every post is a perfect > > > opportunity to start an argument, and every argument > > > is the perfect opportunity to re-run the obsessions > > > I have already prepared." :-) > > > > > > Good fantasy image of her. Explains pretty much > > > everything. > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > Sri Kaleshwar has not represented himself to be celibate, he is himself > married and has been for years and has a child. > > I won't ever refer to my "website" again ... perhaps you might stop promoting > it. As MMY said ... "any publicity is good publicity". It was Phineas Taylor Barnum who coined that phrase, same church, different pew. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > > > > On Oct 17, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > "Concept of Siddha treatment:- > > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > Speaking as moderator around here, please stop promoting > > > > your commercial website. > > > > > > > > Speaking as myself, no amount of ooga-booga Hindoo magic > > > > woo is going to change the very real fact that heavy metals > > > > are toxic. Within the last two years, there are half a dozen > > > > people in Fairfield who bought into such nonsense and ended > > > > up with very serious cases of heavy metal POISONING from > > > > taking rasayanas they got in India. > > > > > > Darwin Award winners, for sure. > > > > To put "Evananda" into some perspective, Google his > > guru, Swami Kaleshwar: > > > > http://goo.gl/YF70q > > > > A friend of mine studied with him until he discovered > > that while presenting himself as celibate he was sleep- > > ing with a number of his Western students. Turns out > > that's just the tip of the iceberg, and that there are > > a number of other scandals as well, enough to cause > > the police to have raided his ashram recently. > > > > Judging from Evananda's vibe and presentation here, > > the nutcase doesn't fall far from the tree. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
http://tinyurl.com/3rrhnb3 Creative Commons license: Public Domain --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote: > > Yaay !!! > > > On Oct 17, 2011, at 11:47 PM, Denise Evans wrote: > > > Yikes! Thanks Ravi, I need to fuckin' wake up. Maybe that immersion > > weekend with Amma did some good after all. Started to shock me right out > > of my years-long depressed reverie :) > > > > From: Ravi Yogi > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:23 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > > > > > Damn! à I thought I had something figured out :) à à > > > > > > Ya'll are so far out of my league...I knew that for sure when someone > > > posted the Osho video (George Carlin originating) on the many > > > uses/meanings of the word "f..k" à after one of my sad rants. à (Kinda > > > like the word love, actually.) à Pulled me right out of the massive > > > shame attack I was in. > > > > That would be me and I said - "If fuck is your favorite word, you are not > > having an intellectual hard-on :-) ". > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/286402 > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOYb_xlcNc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: authfriend jstein@ > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 7:37 PM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > > > > > > > à > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: > > > > > > > > The comedy routines today are just LOL > > > > funny (at least in the level of > > > > multiverse I'm residing in). Ãâà > > > > > > Thank you, thank you. We'll be here all > > > week. > > > > > > > And, come on now..."the bait" was > > > > definitely directed at "her." > > > > > > Don't think so, Denise. He knows I'm not a > > > wallower in heavy metals. And it sure never > > > occurred to me that anything he said in that > > > first post was directed at me. I think he > > > was just stuck for a putdown in response to > > > my editorial comments. > > > > > > > > > > From: Mike Doughney mike@ > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:31 PM > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > > > > > > > > > > Ãâà > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You couldn't resist taking the bait, could you? > > > > > > > > > > Oh, stinging response, Mike! > > > > > > > > That "bait" was a tiny bit of deliberately exaggerated hyperbole that > > > > was in no way directed at you, but I had a pretty good idea it would > > > > very likely result in you running up your post count before the end of > > > > the evening. > > > > > > > > "Pushing" your "buttons" is barely avoidable, since for more than a > > > > decade and a half you've instantly reacted to such barely noticeable > > > > bits of rhetoric from certain individuals, and had an insatiable need > > > > to tell me and others what we already know. None of it actually has > > > > anything to do with you, except in your own warped and narcissistic > > > > head. Just like Ravi, you're proud to be an asshole, and not much else, > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Sri Kaleshwar has not represented himself to be celibate, he is himself married and has been for years and has a child. I won't ever refer to my "website" again ... perhaps you might stop promoting it. As MMY said ... "any publicity is good publicity". --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > > On Oct 17, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > > > > > > > "Concept of Siddha treatment:- > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > Speaking as moderator around here, please stop promoting > > > your commercial website. > > > > > > Speaking as myself, no amount of ooga-booga Hindoo magic > > > woo is going to change the very real fact that heavy metals > > > are toxic. Within the last two years, there are half a dozen > > > people in Fairfield who bought into such nonsense and ended > > > up with very serious cases of heavy metal POISONING from > > > taking rasayanas they got in India. > > > > Darwin Award winners, for sure. > > To put "Evananda" into some perspective, Google his > guru, Swami Kaleshwar: > > http://goo.gl/YF70q > > A friend of mine studied with him until he discovered > that while presenting himself as celibate he was sleep- > ing with a number of his Western students. Turns out > that's just the tip of the iceberg, and that there are > a number of other scandals as well, enough to cause > the police to have raided his ashram recently. > > Judging from Evananda's vibe and presentation here, > the nutcase doesn't fall far from the tree. >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Yaay !!! On Oct 17, 2011, at 11:47 PM, Denise Evans wrote: > Yikes! Thanks Ravi, I need to fuckin' wake up. Maybe that immersion weekend > with Amma did some good after all. Started to shock me right out of my > years-long depressed reverie :) > > From: Ravi Yogi > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:23 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > > > Damn!  I thought I had something figured out :)   > > > > Ya'll are so far out of my league...I knew that for sure when someone > > posted the Osho video (George Carlin originating) on the many uses/meanings > > of the word "f..k"  after one of my sad rants.  (Kinda like the word > > love, actually.)  Pulled me right out of the massive shame attack I was in. > > That would be me and I said - "If fuck is your favorite word, you are not > having an intellectual hard-on :-) ". > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/286402 > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOYb_xlcNc > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > From: authfriend jstein@... > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 7:37 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > > > >  > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: > > > > > > The comedy routines today are just LOL > > > funny (at least in the level of > > > multiverse I'm residing in).  > > > > Thank you, thank you. We'll be here all > > week. > > > > > And, come on now..."the bait" was > > > definitely directed at "her." > > > > Don't think so, Denise. He knows I'm not a > > wallower in heavy metals. And it sure never > > occurred to me that anything he said in that > > first post was directed at me. I think he > > was just stuck for a putdown in response to > > my editorial comments. > > > > > > > From: Mike Doughney mike@ > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:31 PM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You couldn't resist taking the bait, could you? > > > > > > > > Oh, stinging response, Mike! > > > > > > That "bait" was a tiny bit of deliberately exaggerated hyperbole that was > > > in no way directed at you, but I had a pretty good idea it would very > > > likely result in you running up your post count before the end of the > > > evening. > > > > > > "Pushing" your "buttons" is barely avoidable, since for more than a > > > decade and a half you've instantly reacted to such barely noticeable bits > > > of rhetoric from certain individuals, and had an insatiable need to tell > > > me and others what we already know. None of it actually has anything to > > > do with you, except in your own warped and narcissistic head. Just like > > > Ravi, you're proud to be an asshole, and not much else, here. > > > > > > > >
Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
A beautiful picture Barry, all those beautiful cats going to the beautiful nice crazy lady Judy :-) Begin forwarded message: > From: turquoiseb > Date: October 18, 2011 12:59:18 AM PDT > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > Reply-To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > Always a pleasure to have you drop in Mr. Doughney, but > > > it might be better if you provide some advance notice > > > because Judy seems to develop symptoms of severe > > > anxiety attacks that coincide with your arrival. Say, you > > > wouldn't be related to that nice Mr. Skolnik would you? > > > > > > At least they won't let her have all those cats anymore. > > > My speculation is all the secondhand smoke they were > > > exposed to resulted in some seriously unhappy kitties. > > > > I have to admit, AZ, that among all of the many > > theories proposed here on FFL to try to explain > > why Judy is so chronically angry and why she acts > > the way she does, your "cat lady" theory is the best. > > > > Doesn't it just FIT? An already-angry 70-year-old > > woman with no friends, living alone in Buttfuck, NJ, > > and what happens? The authorities come and take away > > her dozens of cats for public health reasons. But > > they don't take away the cigarettes, so she fires > > one up, allows the nicotine to further poison her > > already-poisonous system, and decides to post to FFL, > > thinking, "I NEED an argument." > > > > So she starts one with Curtis, quickly turning it > > into an opportunity to dump on Vaj, since he won't > > argue with her. Then she starts another argument > > with Mike, quickly turning that into an opportunity > > to dump on Barry, because he won't argue with her, > > either. It's Maharishi-like: "Every post is a perfect > > opportunity to start an argument, and every argument > > is the perfect opportunity to re-run the obsessions > > I have already prepared." :-) > > > > Good fantasy image of her. Explains pretty much > > everything. > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > Kidding? Huh! ; ) > How do I know either of you are a man or woman? An excellent point. I, for example, am neither. > Believe me, I have listened to same gender puppy love > bashing and it is the same as hetero. LOL. Absolutely! Several have suggested that such same-gender issues might be at the root of her feuds with Sal and Ruth. I have never believed this, because I know what both Sal and Ruth look like, and there is no possibility that Judy would stand a chance with either of them. Personally, I think a perfect match for Jude might be Val Kilmer. Have you seen him lately? He already looks like an aging lesbian, so it would cover all the bases. :-) [http://jemblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/fat-val-kilmer-150x150.jp\ g]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Kidding? Huh! ; ) How do I know either of you are a man or woman? Believe me, I have listened to same gender puppy love bashing and it is the same as hetero. LOL. Absolutely! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2oEmPP5dTM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > P.S.: I know you're just kidding around. But > this has come up on a regular basis, over and > over, and I think some people have a lingering > suspicion there must be something to it. > > If we were two men, or two women, I doubt it > would even occur to anybody to make the > suggestion. But somehow because we're of > opposite genders, folks seem to think there > must be some underlying attraction. > > There isn't. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > > > Judy and Barry, fess up. What kind of hot relationship did > > > or are you two having? > > > > Obbajeeba, that is so *old*. You're only about > > the 50th person to make that suggestion. > > > > For the record: Barry and I have *never* liked > > each other. Trust me on this. How could I like > > somebody I'm convinced is a fraud and a phony? > > How could he like somebody who keeps exposing > > him as a fraud and a phony? > > > > We first encountered each other 16 years ago on > > alt.meditation.transcendental. If our opinion of > > each other has only *declined* over the years, > > it ain't likely ever to get much better. > > > > 'Nuff said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is obvious, there is some chemistry between you. > > > Was Judy the one Barry was banging when the Merv show incident came out? > > > Barry is probably not in some coffee house in Amsterdam, he is most > > > likely sitting right next to or Judy is sitting on his lap typing all > > > this. Barry, puffing on a cigar, five o'clock shadow, robe open, grey > > > hair fluffing out as Judy thinks kitty, rubs her hand on the keys, > > > stroking the ever graceful polite compliments he suggests. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > [http://www.cats-on-tshirts.com/images/cat_designs_200x200/design_missCr\ > > > > azyCat_wh.jpg] > > > > :-) > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Opposites attract? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xweiQukBM_k&ob=av3e --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > Judy and Barry, fess up. What kind of hot relationship did > > or are you two having? > > Obbajeeba, that is so *old*. You're only about > the 50th person to make that suggestion. > > For the record: Barry and I have *never* liked > each other. Trust me on this. How could I like > somebody I'm convinced is a fraud and a phony? > How could he like somebody who keeps exposing > him as a fraud and a phony? > > We first encountered each other 16 years ago on > alt.meditation.transcendental. If our opinion of > each other has only *declined* over the years, > it ain't likely ever to get much better. > > 'Nuff said. > > > > > > > It is obvious, there is some chemistry between you. > > Was Judy the one Barry was banging when the Merv show incident came out? > > Barry is probably not in some coffee house in Amsterdam, he is most likely > > sitting right next to or Judy is sitting on his lap typing all this. Barry, > > puffing on a cigar, five o'clock shadow, robe open, grey hair fluffing out > > as Judy thinks kitty, rubs her hand on the keys, stroking the ever graceful > > polite compliments he suggests. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > > > > [http://www.cats-on-tshirts.com/images/cat_designs_200x200/design_missCr\ > > > azyCat_wh.jpg] > > > :-) >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
P.S.: I know you're just kidding around. But this has come up on a regular basis, over and over, and I think some people have a lingering suspicion there must be something to it. If we were two men, or two women, I doubt it would even occur to anybody to make the suggestion. But somehow because we're of opposite genders, folks seem to think there must be some underlying attraction. There isn't. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > Judy and Barry, fess up. What kind of hot relationship did > > or are you two having? > > Obbajeeba, that is so *old*. You're only about > the 50th person to make that suggestion. > > For the record: Barry and I have *never* liked > each other. Trust me on this. How could I like > somebody I'm convinced is a fraud and a phony? > How could he like somebody who keeps exposing > him as a fraud and a phony? > > We first encountered each other 16 years ago on > alt.meditation.transcendental. If our opinion of > each other has only *declined* over the years, > it ain't likely ever to get much better. > > 'Nuff said. > > > > > > > It is obvious, there is some chemistry between you. > > Was Judy the one Barry was banging when the Merv show incident came out? > > Barry is probably not in some coffee house in Amsterdam, he is most likely > > sitting right next to or Judy is sitting on his lap typing all this. Barry, > > puffing on a cigar, five o'clock shadow, robe open, grey hair fluffing out > > as Judy thinks kitty, rubs her hand on the keys, stroking the ever graceful > > polite compliments he suggests. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > > > > [http://www.cats-on-tshirts.com/images/cat_designs_200x200/design_missCr\ > > > azyCat_wh.jpg] > > > :-) >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > Judy and Barry, fess up. What kind of hot relationship did > or are you two having? Obbajeeba, that is so *old*. You're only about the 50th person to make that suggestion. For the record: Barry and I have *never* liked each other. Trust me on this. How could I like somebody I'm convinced is a fraud and a phony? How could he like somebody who keeps exposing him as a fraud and a phony? We first encountered each other 16 years ago on alt.meditation.transcendental. If our opinion of each other has only *declined* over the years, it ain't likely ever to get much better. 'Nuff said. > It is obvious, there is some chemistry between you. > Was Judy the one Barry was banging when the Merv show incident came out? > Barry is probably not in some coffee house in Amsterdam, he is most likely > sitting right next to or Judy is sitting on his lap typing all this. Barry, > puffing on a cigar, five o'clock shadow, robe open, grey hair fluffing out as > Judy thinks kitty, rubs her hand on the keys, stroking the ever graceful > polite compliments he suggests. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > [http://www.cats-on-tshirts.com/images/cat_designs_200x200/design_missCr\ > > azyCat_wh.jpg] > > :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Judy and Barry, fess up. What kind of hot relationship did or are you two having? It is obvious, there is some chemistry between you. Was Judy the one Barry was banging when the Merv show incident came out? Barry is probably not in some coffee house in Amsterdam, he is most likely sitting right next to or Judy is sitting on his lap typing all this. Barry, puffing on a cigar, five o'clock shadow, robe open, grey hair fluffing out as Judy thinks kitty, rubs her hand on the keys, stroking the ever graceful polite compliments he suggests. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > [http://www.cats-on-tshirts.com/images/cat_designs_200x200/design_missCr\ > azyCat_wh.jpg] > :-) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey wrote: > > > > > > > > Always a pleasure to have you drop in Mr. Doughney, but > > > > it might be better if you provide some advance notice > > > > because Judy seems to develop symptoms of severe > > > > anxiety attacks that coincide with your arrival. Say, you > > > > wouldn't be related to that nice Mr. Skolnik would you? > > > > > > > > At least they won't let her have all those cats anymore. > > > > My speculation is all the secondhand smoke they were > > > > exposed to resulted in some seriously unhappy kitties. > > > > > > I have to admit, AZ, that among all of the many > > > theories proposed here on FFL to try to explain > > > why Judy is so chronically angry and why she acts > > > the way she does, your "cat lady" theory is the best. > > > > > > Doesn't it just FIT? An already-angry 70-year-old > > > woman with no friends, living alone in Buttfuck, NJ, > > > and what happens? The authorities come and take away > > > her dozens of cats for public health reasons. But > > > they don't take away the cigarettes, so she fires > > > one up, allows the nicotine to further poison her > > > already-poisonous system, and decides to post to FFL, > > > thinking, "I NEED an argument." > > > > > > So she starts one with Curtis, quickly turning it > > > into an opportunity to dump on Vaj, since he won't > > > argue with her. Then she starts another argument > > > with Mike, quickly turning that into an opportunity > > > to dump on Barry, because he won't argue with her, > > > either. It's Maharishi-like: "Every post is a perfect > > > opportunity to start an argument, and every argument > > > is the perfect opportunity to re-run the obsessions > > > I have already prepared." :-) > > > > > > Good fantasy image of her. Explains pretty much > > > everything. > > > > BREAKING NEWS! Barry is beginning to realize his > > notions about me are fantasies! This is hopeful, > > folks. Maybe he's making some progress at emerging > > from his solipsistic Barryworld. Could be > > overwhelming, though, for him to start confronting > > reality after all these years; we need to be gentle > > with him as he does so, or he may find it all too > > much and retreat again. > > > > Can we dare to expect he'll bring az with him out > > of the fog? Stay tuned... > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote: > On Oct 18, 2011, at 6:42 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > >>> Speaking as myself, no amount of ooga-booga Hindoo magic > >>> woo is going to change the very real fact that heavy metals > >>> are toxic. Within the last two years, there are half a dozen > >>> people in Fairfield who bought into such nonsense and ended > >>> up with very serious cases of heavy metal POISONING from > >>> taking rasayanas they got in India. > >> > >> Darwin Award winners, for sure. > > > > To put "Evananda" into some perspective, Google his > > guru, Swami Kaleshwar: > > > > http://goo.gl/YF70q > > > > A friend of mine studied with him until he discovered > > that while presenting himself as celibate he was sleep- > > ing with a number of his Western students. > > Now there's a shocker. Only Western ones? > > > Turns out > > that's just the tip of the iceberg, and that there are > > a number of other scandals as well, enough to cause > > the police to have raided his ashram recently. > > > > Judging from Evananda's vibe and presentation here, > > the nutcase doesn't fall far from the tree. > > U mean U very smart, learned people who still actually read books didn't know these details? Sorry, I would have pointed out the interesting details about the Swami. Sal, U ask if he was sleeping with his Western students? Of course. Opposites attract. Hispanics and Middle Eastern people love blonds. I grew up with more fair haired people, so brunettes are my style. Erma Bombeck said it very well in the title of her book *The Grass is Always Greener Over the Septic Tank*.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
[http://www.cats-on-tshirts.com/images/cat_designs_200x200/design_missCr\ azyCat_wh.jpg] :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey wrote: > > > > > > Always a pleasure to have you drop in Mr. Doughney, but > > > it might be better if you provide some advance notice > > > because Judy seems to develop symptoms of severe > > > anxiety attacks that coincide with your arrival. Say, you > > > wouldn't be related to that nice Mr. Skolnik would you? > > > > > > At least they won't let her have all those cats anymore. > > > My speculation is all the secondhand smoke they were > > > exposed to resulted in some seriously unhappy kitties. > > > > I have to admit, AZ, that among all of the many > > theories proposed here on FFL to try to explain > > why Judy is so chronically angry and why she acts > > the way she does, your "cat lady" theory is the best. > > > > Doesn't it just FIT? An already-angry 70-year-old > > woman with no friends, living alone in Buttfuck, NJ, > > and what happens? The authorities come and take away > > her dozens of cats for public health reasons. But > > they don't take away the cigarettes, so she fires > > one up, allows the nicotine to further poison her > > already-poisonous system, and decides to post to FFL, > > thinking, "I NEED an argument." > > > > So she starts one with Curtis, quickly turning it > > into an opportunity to dump on Vaj, since he won't > > argue with her. Then she starts another argument > > with Mike, quickly turning that into an opportunity > > to dump on Barry, because he won't argue with her, > > either. It's Maharishi-like: "Every post is a perfect > > opportunity to start an argument, and every argument > > is the perfect opportunity to re-run the obsessions > > I have already prepared." :-) > > > > Good fantasy image of her. Explains pretty much > > everything. > > BREAKING NEWS! Barry is beginning to realize his > notions about me are fantasies! This is hopeful, > folks. Maybe he's making some progress at emerging > from his solipsistic Barryworld. Could be > overwhelming, though, for him to start confronting > reality after all these years; we need to be gentle > with him as he does so, or he may find it all too > much and retreat again. > > Can we dare to expect he'll bring az with him out > of the fog? Stay tuned... >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey wrote: > > > > Always a pleasure to have you drop in Mr. Doughney, but > > it might be better if you provide some advance notice > > because Judy seems to develop symptoms of severe > > anxiety attacks that coincide with your arrival. Say, you > > wouldn't be related to that nice Mr. Skolnik would you? > > > > At least they won't let her have all those cats anymore. > > My speculation is all the secondhand smoke they were > > exposed to resulted in some seriously unhappy kitties. > > I have to admit, AZ, that among all of the many > theories proposed here on FFL to try to explain > why Judy is so chronically angry and why she acts > the way she does, your "cat lady" theory is the best. > > Doesn't it just FIT? An already-angry 70-year-old > woman with no friends, living alone in Buttfuck, NJ, > and what happens? The authorities come and take away > her dozens of cats for public health reasons. But > they don't take away the cigarettes, so she fires > one up, allows the nicotine to further poison her > already-poisonous system, and decides to post to FFL, > thinking, "I NEED an argument." > > So she starts one with Curtis, quickly turning it > into an opportunity to dump on Vaj, since he won't > argue with her. Then she starts another argument > with Mike, quickly turning that into an opportunity > to dump on Barry, because he won't argue with her, > either. It's Maharishi-like: "Every post is a perfect > opportunity to start an argument, and every argument > is the perfect opportunity to re-run the obsessions > I have already prepared." :-) > > Good fantasy image of her. Explains pretty much > everything. BREAKING NEWS! Barry is beginning to realize his notions about me are fantasies! This is hopeful, folks. Maybe he's making some progress at emerging from his solipsistic Barryworld. Could be overwhelming, though, for him to start confronting reality after all these years; we need to be gentle with him as he does so, or he may find it all too much and retreat again. Can we dare to expect he'll bring az with him out of the fog? Stay tuned...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > Damn! I thought I had something figured > out :) > > Ya'll are so far out of my league... Naah. We've just been at it forever. It's sort of like the one about the prisoners who tell jokes by the number because they've heard them so often, they've memorized them. 1ST INMATE: 803! INMATES: HAHAHAHAHA!! 2ND INMATE: 385! INMATES: HOHOHOHOHO!! NEW INMATE: 517! [silence] NEW INMATE: Why didn't anybody laugh? OLD INMATE: Don't feel bad. You know, some folks can tell a joke, some can't. (Oldie but goodie.) > I knew that for sure when someone > posted the Osho video (George Carlin > originating) on the many uses/meanings > of the word "f..k" after one of my > sad rants. (Kinda like the word love, > actually.) Heh...! > Pulled me right out of the massive > shame attack I was in. Aw, Denise...hope you've stayed out of it. You ain't got nuttin' to be ashamed of. Such a useless and destructive emotion, and you're such a bright light here. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOYb_xlcNc But it won't hurt any of us to watch this again. What a showman he was.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
On Oct 18, 2011, at 6:42 AM, turquoiseb wrote: >>> Speaking as myself, no amount of ooga-booga Hindoo magic >>> woo is going to change the very real fact that heavy metals >>> are toxic. Within the last two years, there are half a dozen >>> people in Fairfield who bought into such nonsense and ended >>> up with very serious cases of heavy metal POISONING from >>> taking rasayanas they got in India. >> >> Darwin Award winners, for sure. > > To put "Evananda" into some perspective, Google his > guru, Swami Kaleshwar: > > http://goo.gl/YF70q > > A friend of mine studied with him until he discovered > that while presenting himself as celibate he was sleep- > ing with a number of his Western students. Now there's a shocker. Only Western ones? > Turns out > that's just the tip of the iceberg, and that there are > a number of other scandals as well, enough to cause > the police to have raided his ashram recently. > > Judging from Evananda's vibe and presentation here, > the nutcase doesn't fall far from the tree. Maybe he's got mercury poisoning. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On Oct 17, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > > > > > "Concept of Siddha treatment:- > > > > > [snip] > > > > Speaking as moderator around here, please stop promoting > > your commercial website. > > > > Speaking as myself, no amount of ooga-booga Hindoo magic > > woo is going to change the very real fact that heavy metals > > are toxic. Within the last two years, there are half a dozen > > people in Fairfield who bought into such nonsense and ended > > up with very serious cases of heavy metal POISONING from > > taking rasayanas they got in India. > > Darwin Award winners, for sure. To put "Evananda" into some perspective, Google his guru, Swami Kaleshwar: http://goo.gl/YF70q A friend of mine studied with him until he discovered that while presenting himself as celibate he was sleep- ing with a number of his Western students. Turns out that's just the tip of the iceberg, and that there are a number of other scandals as well, enough to cause the police to have raided his ashram recently. Judging from Evananda's vibe and presentation here, the nutcase doesn't fall far from the tree.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@ wrote: > > > > Always a pleasure to have you drop in Mr. Doughney, but > > it might be better if you provide some advance notice > > because Judy seems to develop symptoms of severe > > anxiety attacks that coincide with your arrival. Say, you > > wouldn't be related to that nice Mr. Skolnik would you? > > > > At least they won't let her have all those cats anymore. > > My speculation is all the secondhand smoke they were > > exposed to resulted in some seriously unhappy kitties. > > I have to admit, AZ, that among all of the many > theories proposed here on FFL to try to explain > why Judy is so chronically angry and why she acts > the way she does, your "cat lady" theory is the best. > > Doesn't it just FIT? An already-angry 70-year-old > woman with no friends, living alone in Buttfuck, NJ, > and what happens? The authorities come and take away > her dozens of cats for public health reasons. But > they don't take away the cigarettes, so she fires > one up, allows the nicotine to further poison her > already-poisonous system, and decides to post to FFL, > thinking, "I NEED an argument." > > So she starts one with Curtis, quickly turning it > into an opportunity to dump on Vaj, since he won't > argue with her. Then she starts another argument > with Mike, quickly turning that into an opportunity > to dump on Barry, because he won't argue with her, > either. It's Maharishi-like: "Every post is a perfect > opportunity to start an argument, and every argument > is the perfect opportunity to re-run the obsessions > I have already prepared." :-) > > Good fantasy image of her. Explains pretty much > everything. [http://crazytownmayor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Crazy-Cat-Lad\ y-cats.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey wrote: > > Always a pleasure to have you drop in Mr. Doughney, but > it might be better if you provide some advance notice > because Judy seems to develop symptoms of severe > anxiety attacks that coincide with your arrival. Say, you > wouldn't be related to that nice Mr. Skolnik would you? > > At least they won't let her have all those cats anymore. > My speculation is all the secondhand smoke they were > exposed to resulted in some seriously unhappy kitties. I have to admit, AZ, that among all of the many theories proposed here on FFL to try to explain why Judy is so chronically angry and why she acts the way she does, your "cat lady" theory is the best. Doesn't it just FIT? An already-angry 70-year-old woman with no friends, living alone in Buttfuck, NJ, and what happens? The authorities come and take away her dozens of cats for public health reasons. But they don't take away the cigarettes, so she fires one up, allows the nicotine to further poison her already-poisonous system, and decides to post to FFL, thinking, "I NEED an argument." So she starts one with Curtis, quickly turning it into an opportunity to dump on Vaj, since he won't argue with her. Then she starts another argument with Mike, quickly turning that into an opportunity to dump on Barry, because he won't argue with her, either. It's Maharishi-like: "Every post is a perfect opportunity to start an argument, and every argument is the perfect opportunity to re-run the obsessions I have already prepared." :-) Good fantasy image of her. Explains pretty much everything.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Yikes! Thanks Ravi, I need to fuckin' wake up. Maybe that immersion weekend with Amma did some good after all. Started to shock me right out of my years-long depressed reverie :) From: Ravi Yogi To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > Damn!  I thought I had something figured out :)   > > Ya'll are so far out of my league...I knew that for sure when someone posted > the Osho video (George Carlin originating) on the many uses/meanings of the > word "f..k"  after one of my sad rants.  (Kinda like the word love, > actually.)  Pulled me right out of the massive shame attack I was in. That would be me and I said - "If fuck is your favorite word, you are not having an intellectual hard-on :-) ". http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/286402 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOYb_xlcNc > > > > > > From: authfriend jstein@... > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 7:37 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > >  > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: > > > > The comedy routines today are just LOL > > funny (at least in the level of > > multiverse I'm residing in).  > > Thank you, thank you. We'll be here all > week. > > > And, come on now..."the bait" was > > definitely directed at "her." > > Don't think so, Denise. He knows I'm not a > wallower in heavy metals. And it sure never > occurred to me that anything he said in that > first post was directed at me. I think he > was just stuck for a putdown in response to > my editorial comments. > > > > From: Mike Doughney mike@ > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:31 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > > > >  > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > > > > > You couldn't resist taking the bait, could you? > > > > > > Oh, stinging response, Mike! > > > > That "bait" was a tiny bit of deliberately exaggerated hyperbole that was > > in no way directed at you, but I had a pretty good idea it would very > > likely result in you running up your post count before the end of the > > evening. > > > > "Pushing" your "buttons" is barely avoidable, since for more than a decade > > and a half you've instantly reacted to such barely noticeable bits of > > rhetoric from certain individuals, and had an insatiable need to tell me > > and others what we already know. None of it actually has anything to do > > with you, except in your own warped and narcissistic head. Just like Ravi, > > you're proud to be an asshole, and not much else, here. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Always a pleasure to have you drop in Mr. Doughney, but it might be better if you provide some advance notice because Judy seems to develop symptoms of severe anxiety attacks that coincide with your arrival. Say, you wouldn't be related to that nice Mr. Skolnik would you? At least they won't let her have all those cats anymore. My speculation is all the secondhand smoke they were exposed to resulted in some seriously unhappy kitties. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > I'm never disappointed when I visit Fairfield Life, as long as I assume > beforehand that I'm going to encounter at least a few examples of world-class > stupidity, sometimes of the let's-go-wallow-in-heavy-metals variety. > > As it says from your website, "One can also perform abhishek to the bead or > Navapashanam object and leave it in the water or milk overnight, then drink > the liquid (after the bead has been removed)." > > Sounds to me that the FDA would be very, very interested in this sort of > instruction, as the result, over the long-term, would likely be mercury > poisoning. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > > > > > since people don't eat them or pop them as pills, the FDA would not be > > involved. Of course you probably think that the FDA should regulate > > everything in our lives, of course for our own safety. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > The color of these beads would seem to indicate that they contain either > > > cinnabar or an manmade amalgam of mercuric sulfide, is that correct? > > > > > > Has the FDA had an opportunity to evaluate these? > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > Damn! Â I thought I had something figured out :) Â Â > > Ya'll are so far out of my league...I knew that for sure when someone posted the Osho video (George Carlin originating) on the many uses/meanings of the word "f..k" Â after one of my sad rants. Â (Kinda like the word love, actually.) Â Pulled me right out of the massive shame attack I was in. That would be me and I said - "If fuck is your favorite word, you are not having an intellectual hard-on :-) ". http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/286402 <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/286402> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOYb_xlcNc > > > > > > From: authfriend jstein@... > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 7:37 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > Â > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: > > > > The comedy routines today are just LOL > > funny (at least in the level of > > multiverse I'm residing in). ÃÂ > > Thank you, thank you. We'll be here all > week. > > > And, come on now..."the bait" was > > definitely directed at "her." > > Don't think so, Denise. He knows I'm not a > wallower in heavy metals. And it sure never > occurred to me that anything he said in that > first post was directed at me. I think he > was just stuck for a putdown in response to > my editorial comments. > > ________ > > From: Mike Doughney mike@ > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:31 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > > > > ÃÂ > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > > > > > You couldn't resist taking the bait, could you? > > > > > > Oh, stinging response, Mike! > > > > That "bait" was a tiny bit of deliberately exaggerated hyperbole that was in no way directed at you, but I had a pretty good idea it would very likely result in you running up your post count before the end of the evening. > > > > "Pushing" your "buttons" is barely avoidable, since for more than a decade and a half you've instantly reacted to such barely noticeable bits of rhetoric from certain individuals, and had an insatiable need to tell me and others what we already know. None of it actually has anything to do with you, except in your own warped and narcissistic head. Just like Ravi, you're proud to be an asshole, and not much else, here. > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Damn! I thought I had something figured out :) Ya'll are so far out of my league...I knew that for sure when someone posted the Osho video (George Carlin originating) on the many uses/meanings of the word "f..k" after one of my sad rants. (Kinda like the word love, actually.) Pulled me right out of the massive shame attack I was in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOYb_xlcNc From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 7:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > The comedy routines today are just LOL > funny (at least in the level of > multiverse I'm residing in). Â Thank you, thank you. We'll be here all week. > And, come on now..."the bait" was > definitely directed at "her." Don't think so, Denise. He knows I'm not a wallower in heavy metals. And it sure never occurred to me that anything he said in that first post was directed at me. I think he was just stuck for a putdown in response to my editorial comments. > From: Mike Doughney > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:31 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > Â > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > > > You couldn't resist taking the bait, could you? > > > > Oh, stinging response, Mike! > > That "bait" was a tiny bit of deliberately exaggerated hyperbole that was in > no way directed at you, but I had a pretty good idea it would very likely > result in you running up your post count before the end of the evening. > > "Pushing" your "buttons" is barely avoidable, since for more than a decade > and a half you've instantly reacted to such barely noticeable bits of > rhetoric from certain individuals, and had an insatiable need to tell me and > others what we already know. None of it actually has anything to do with you, > except in your own warped and narcissistic head. Just like Ravi, you're proud > to be an asshole, and not much else, here. >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
On Oct 17, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: >> >> "Concept of Siddha treatment:- >> > [snip] > > Speaking as moderator around here, please stop promoting your commercial > website. > > Speaking as myself, no amount of ooga-booga Hindoo magic woo is going to > change the very real fact that heavy metals are toxic. Within the last two > years, there are half a dozen people in Fairfield who bought into such > nonsense and ended up with very serious cases of heavy metal POISONING from > taking rasayanas they got in India. Darwin Award winners, for sure. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > Oh Mikey, don't you start an argument with > > Judy now, papa wasn't really angry at you.. > > LOL..I love you Mikey boy. > > Daddy, I must confess, 'twas *I* who started > the argument, not poor Mikey. He's just trying > to defend himself as best he can, and his best > is none too good. P.S.: When Barry sees Mikey's post, he'll pile on enthusiastically. Then he'll find out as he reads further that Mikey fouled up big-time in claiming I'd taken his "bait" personally, and Barry will be spitting nails. But he'll have to hold it in and let Mikey twist slowly, slowly in the wind until Barry can come up with an idea for another of his rants.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > > > Oh Mikey, don't you start an argument with > > > Judy now, papa wasn't really angry at you.. > > > LOL..I love you Mikey boy. > > > > Daddy, I must confess, 'twas *I* who started > > the argument, not poor Mikey. He's just trying > > to defend himself as best he can, and his best > > is none too good. > No problem, you kids be good - either me getting mad on Mike affected him. Instead of accepting his mistake he just came up with a very poor, oft repeated, ill timed jab. > P.S.: When Barry sees Mikey's post, he'll pile on > enthusiastically. Then he'll find out as he reads > further that Mikey fouled up big-time in claiming > I'd taken his "bait" personally, and Barry will be > spitting nails. But he'll have to hold it in and > let Mikey twist slowly, slowly in the wind until > Barry can come up with an idea for another of his > rants. > Yeah I have though it too and boy will he be fuming tomorrow :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > Oh Mikey, don't you start an argument with > Judy now, papa wasn't really angry at you.. > LOL..I love you Mikey boy. Daddy, I must confess, 'twas *I* who started the argument, not poor Mikey. He's just trying to defend himself as best he can, and his best is none too good. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > > > > > You couldn't resist taking the bait, could you? > > > > > > Oh, stinging response, Mike! > > > > That "bait" was a tiny bit of deliberately exaggerated hyperbole that > was in no way directed at you, but I had a pretty good idea it would > very likely result in you running up your post count before the end of > the evening. > > > > "Pushing" your "buttons" is barely avoidable, since for more than a > decade and a half you've instantly reacted to such barely noticeable > bits of rhetoric from certain individuals, and had an insatiable need to > tell me and others what we already know. None of it actually has > anything to do with you, except in your own warped and narcissistic > head. Just like Ravi, you're proud to be an asshole, and not much else, > here. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > The comedy routines today are just LOL > funny (at least in the level of > multiverse I'm residing in). Â Thank you, thank you. We'll be here all week. > And, come on now..."the bait" was > definitely directed at "her." Don't think so, Denise. He knows I'm not a wallower in heavy metals. And it sure never occurred to me that anything he said in that first post was directed at me. I think he was just stuck for a putdown in response to my editorial comments. > From: Mike Doughney > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:31 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > Â > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > > > You couldn't resist taking the bait, could you? > > > > Oh, stinging response, Mike! > > That "bait" was a tiny bit of deliberately exaggerated hyperbole that was in > no way directed at you, but I had a pretty good idea it would very likely > result in you running up your post count before the end of the evening. > > "Pushing" your "buttons" is barely avoidable, since for more than a decade > and a half you've instantly reacted to such barely noticeable bits of > rhetoric from certain individuals, and had an insatiable need to tell me and > others what we already know. None of it actually has anything to do with you, > except in your own warped and narcissistic head. Just like Ravi, you're proud > to be an asshole, and not much else, here. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Yeah - I don't know why Mike can't see his own world class stupidity, evananda drops in - I encourage him to discuss before selling stuff, other had a few barbs as well. And Mike walks in with his stupid shit about how this is a daily happening on FFL - what an idiot. I guess he's run out of ideas on what else to attack TM & MMY on his blog - if your whole blog, your life is making fun of others it shows what kind of a world class idiot you yourself are. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" mike@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > > > > > You couldn't resist taking the bait, could you? > > > > > > Oh, stinging response, Mike! > > > > That "bait" was a tiny bit of deliberately exaggerated > > hyperbole that was in no way directed at you, but I had > > a pretty good idea it would very likely result in you > > running up your post count before the end of the evening. > > > > "Pushing" your "buttons" is barely avoidable, since for > > more than a decade and a half you've instantly reacted > > to such barely noticeable bits of rhetoric from certain > > individuals, and had an insatiable need to tell me and > > others what we already know. None of it actually has > > anything to do with you, except in your own warped and > > narcissistic head. Just like Ravi, you're proud to be an > > asshole, and not much else, here. > > Where on earth did you get the idea that I thought > your shaky rhetoric had anything to do with me? That's > hilarious. > > Barry tries to push lots of folks' buttons, not just > mine by any means. > > Now, I know you don't like it when you screw up your > rhetoric and that gets pointed out. But, you know, > tough titties. I have fun tweaking you guys. Maybe > you should loosen up a little and see if you can > laugh at your own pomposity-gone-awry. > > That's what Barry advises, being able to laugh at > oneself (although with him, it's a Do-as-I-say, not- > as-I-do recommendation; TM critics are free to get > pissed off and demonize their tormentors). > > In any case, my main point wasn't your sloppy > hyperbole about wallowing in heavy metals but your > indictment of Fairfield Life as a whole because a > single wallower happened to wander in uninvited to > make a pitch just as you were taking one of your > peeks: > > > > evananda, as it happens, isn't a regular; this is the > > > first time he's posted here. So it's not quite fair > > > to blame Fairfield Life (especially when he doesn't > > > seem to be getting a very enthusiastic response). > > As noted, given the negative response, your attemped > indictment fell through, and there you sit with egg > on your face. That's why I suggested you try to find > *different* examples of world-class stupidity here. > There are plenty of 'em, goodness knows. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
I apologize for Mikey's behavior Denise, I got a little mad at him and he's trying to dump it on Judy. It's been a little rough for Mikey boy today. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > The comedy routines today are just LOL funny (at least in the level of multiverse I'm residing in). Â > > And, come on now..."the bait"Â was definitely directed at "her." Â > > > > From: Mike Doughney mike@... > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:31 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing > > > Â > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > > > You couldn't resist taking the bait, could you? > > > > Oh, stinging response, Mike! > > That "bait" was a tiny bit of deliberately exaggerated hyperbole that was in no way directed at you, but I had a pretty good idea it would very likely result in you running up your post count before the end of the evening. > > "Pushing" your "buttons" is barely avoidable, since for more than a decade and a half you've instantly reacted to such barely noticeable bits of rhetoric from certain individuals, and had an insatiable need to tell me and others what we already know. None of it actually has anything to do with you, except in your own warped and narcissistic head. Just like Ravi, you're proud to be an asshole, and not much else, here. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > > > You couldn't resist taking the bait, could you? > > > > Oh, stinging response, Mike! > > That "bait" was a tiny bit of deliberately exaggerated > hyperbole that was in no way directed at you, but I had > a pretty good idea it would very likely result in you > running up your post count before the end of the evening. > > "Pushing" your "buttons" is barely avoidable, since for > more than a decade and a half you've instantly reacted > to such barely noticeable bits of rhetoric from certain > individuals, and had an insatiable need to tell me and > others what we already know. None of it actually has > anything to do with you, except in your own warped and > narcissistic head. Just like Ravi, you're proud to be an > asshole, and not much else, here. Where on earth did you get the idea that I thought your shaky rhetoric had anything to do with me? That's hilarious. Barry tries to push lots of folks' buttons, not just mine by any means. Now, I know you don't like it when you screw up your rhetoric and that gets pointed out. But, you know, tough titties. I have fun tweaking you guys. Maybe you should loosen up a little and see if you can laugh at your own pomposity-gone-awry. That's what Barry advises, being able to laugh at oneself (although with him, it's a Do-as-I-say, not- as-I-do recommendation; TM critics are free to get pissed off and demonize their tormentors). In any case, my main point wasn't your sloppy hyperbole about wallowing in heavy metals but your indictment of Fairfield Life as a whole because a single wallower happened to wander in uninvited to make a pitch just as you were taking one of your peeks: > > evananda, as it happens, isn't a regular; this is the > > first time he's posted here. So it's not quite fair > > to blame Fairfield Life (especially when he doesn't > > seem to be getting a very enthusiastic response). As noted, given the negative response, your attemped indictment fell through, and there you sit with egg on your face. That's why I suggested you try to find *different* examples of world-class stupidity here. There are plenty of 'em, goodness knows.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
Oh Mikey, don't you start an argument with Judy now, papa wasn't really angry at you..LOL..I love you Mikey boy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > > > You couldn't resist taking the bait, could you? > > > > Oh, stinging response, Mike! > > That "bait" was a tiny bit of deliberately exaggerated hyperbole that was in no way directed at you, but I had a pretty good idea it would very likely result in you running up your post count before the end of the evening. > > "Pushing" your "buttons" is barely avoidable, since for more than a decade and a half you've instantly reacted to such barely noticeable bits of rhetoric from certain individuals, and had an insatiable need to tell me and others what we already know. None of it actually has anything to do with you, except in your own warped and narcissistic head. Just like Ravi, you're proud to be an asshole, and not much else, here. >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
The comedy routines today are just LOL funny (at least in the level of multiverse I'm residing in). And, come on now..."the bait" was definitely directed at "her." From: Mike Doughney To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > You couldn't resist taking the bait, could you? > > Oh, stinging response, Mike! That "bait" was a tiny bit of deliberately exaggerated hyperbole that was in no way directed at you, but I had a pretty good idea it would very likely result in you running up your post count before the end of the evening. "Pushing" your "buttons" is barely avoidable, since for more than a decade and a half you've instantly reacted to such barely noticeable bits of rhetoric from certain individuals, and had an insatiable need to tell me and others what we already know. None of it actually has anything to do with you, except in your own warped and narcissistic head. Just like Ravi, you're proud to be an asshole, and not much else, here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > You couldn't resist taking the bait, could you? > > Oh, stinging response, Mike! That "bait" was a tiny bit of deliberately exaggerated hyperbole that was in no way directed at you, but I had a pretty good idea it would very likely result in you running up your post count before the end of the evening. "Pushing" your "buttons" is barely avoidable, since for more than a decade and a half you've instantly reacted to such barely noticeable bits of rhetoric from certain individuals, and had an insatiable need to tell me and others what we already know. None of it actually has anything to do with you, except in your own warped and narcissistic head. Just like Ravi, you're proud to be an asshole, and not much else, here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > Not really trying to sell anything here, I can't imagine what gave anyone that idea. < just open the discussion up about Siddha Medicine and the like...> Hey, so how's it going, kinda crisp Fall weather here in the Mid-Atlantic. Is that a new sweater you're wearing? Damn, that really suits you, makes the hazel of your eyes really pop. You been work'n out man? Those are some serious lats you are sport'n brother, like a cobra's head. Seriously, flared like a cobra's head. Hey by the way, uh...those cobra lats of yours reminds me of a bunch of Indian stuff that I sell on this marketing Website, including but not limited to magic beans...er I mean magic beads. You can put them in milk and drink it (But I am not recommending that you do even though if you do it will be amazing and your whole life would get better in ways you can't even conceive of!) Anywhoo, did I mention that I can heal whatever ails you just by thinking about you? Fer real! Won't cost you an arm and a leg either, I mean, not that I'm SELLING anything to you, but you know if you are not interested in me sending you the best vibes of your life on the downlow...if you dig the suffering gig, no prob. What's that, you ARE a bit intrigued but want to know how I learned how to send you everything that has eluded human beings throughout time without even having to meet you in person? Let's just say I learned it through the grace of some homeless guy...no NOT Guru Dev. He was amazing and all but this homeless guy, total beggar, not a pot to piss in, knows the secrets of the universe. And now I know them. So if you can work up a little scratch, couple a dead presidents we can talk about hooking you up just like the cable guy, you don't even have to open up your door and voila, 879 channels NOT counting pay per view for all your subtle bodies from your "I am mutha f'n THAT" to that fine ass v shaped body of yours. Seriously, have you been working out cuz I gotta say, it is really working out from where I'm sitt'n. Now all you need is some magic beans...beads, magic beads. < sorry if I offended anyone.> > > Seems to be a bias here against non-Western approaches ... maybe I just > misunderstood... certainly outside of the TM movement (or EXs) non-western > alternative approaches are flourishing . > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > "choose YOUR poison - Western meds or ancient medicine..." > > > > A good one and totally spot on. FYI - the list is predominantly for > > discussions, so people peddling without any discussion are not treated too > > kindly here - rightly so. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > > > > > "Concept of Siddha treatment:- > > > > > > Treatment consists of three distinct categories: Deva Maruthuvam, (divine > > > method); Maanida Maruthuvam (rational method); and Asura Maruthuvam > > > (surgical method). In the divine method, medicines like parpam, > > > chenduram, guru, kuligai prepared from mercury, sulphur and pashanams are > > > used. In the rational method, medicines prepared from herbs like > > > churanam, kudineer, vadagam are used. In surgical method, incision, > > > excision, heat application, bloodletting, leech application etc. are > > > practiced." > > > > > > from The National Institute of Siddha > > > > > > http://www.nischennai.org/about-siddha.htm > > > > > > choose YOUR poison - Western meds or ancient medicine... > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > > > > > Like I said... world-class stupid. FFL never fails to deliver. > > > > > > > > The spamvertizer would obviously deny what can be easily learned if one > > > > googles "ayurveda heavy metal poisoning." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Mercury > > > > > > > > > > This is largely due to the ignorance, as the mercury used in these > > > > > medicines are completely transformed into inert compound or ores > > > > > (bhasma) through a 18 step process before being prescribed as > > > > > medicine. > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > You couldn't resist taking the bait, could you? Oh, stinging response, Mike! But, you know, Barry's done the "just pushing buttons" bit to death here, to no discernible effect except to make himself look stupid. Maybe you should try to come up with something a little more original, because this tactic's unlikely to give you any immunity from jibes when you get so carried away with your rhetoric that you step all over whatever point you wanted to make. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > > > I'm never disappointed when I visit Fairfield Life, as long > > > as I assume beforehand that I'm going to encounter at least > > > a few examples of world-class stupidity, sometimes of the > > > let's-go-wallow-in-heavy-metals variety. > > > > When was the last time, Mike? Wallowing in heavy > > metals is actually pretty rare here. It's amazing > > that your very infrequent visits just happen to > > coincide, don't you think? > > > > Couldn't be that you lurk on a regular basis just > > waiting for something to pounce on, could it? > > > > evananda, as it happens, isn't a regular; this is the > > first time he's posted here. So it's not quite fair > > to blame Fairfield Life (especially when he doesn't > > seem to be getting a very enthusiastic response). > > > > Surely you can find some other more typical examples > > of world-class stupidity.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
There is something very soothing happening to me when I look at his picture. I like his high cheek bones. He kind of looks like a Rastafarian Guru Dev? Maybe even Hanumman. How come I am feeling tired all of a sudden? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > Yes... just look at his picture ... healing from his Samadhi in Shirdi > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > Thanks for responding. I thought I read the word "secret," in your post. > > Sorry to misinterpret. > > You mean, all I have to do is look at his picture to think about or on him? > > It is that easy? Should I say his name as you placed it, Shirdi Sai Baba? > > 1918 was a long time ago. I have seen his face before. How old is he? > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > > > > > oh not a secret... it's the Divine Energy of Shirdi Sai Baba ... took > > > Mahasamadhi in 1918 ... available freely for all just think on Him. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the repost: > > > > > > > > > > Many of you know me from the early days (1979)when I started up the > > > > > first oil brokerage company, Rofheart International Oil, right in > > > > > Fairfield. And some may know that I am now a healer. Miracle healing > > > > > anyone: http://evananda.net > > > > > > > > > > I am also now involved with Navapashanam...the highest possible > > > > > Rasayana, making it the sought-after "secret" of the Siddhas. The > > > > > results are amazing: see my site http://navapashanam.org > > > > > > > > > > Evan Rofheart > > > > > > > > > > > > > What ya got? I need a secret to help me heal. What could you do for me? > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
You couldn't resist taking the bait, could you? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > I'm never disappointed when I visit Fairfield Life, as long > > as I assume beforehand that I'm going to encounter at least > > a few examples of world-class stupidity, sometimes of the > > let's-go-wallow-in-heavy-metals variety. > > When was the last time, Mike? Wallowing in heavy > metals is actually pretty rare here. It's amazing > that your very infrequent visits just happen to > coincide, don't you think? > > Couldn't be that you lurk on a regular basis just > waiting for something to pounce on, could it? > > evananda, as it happens, isn't a regular; this is the > first time he's posted here. So it's not quite fair > to blame Fairfield Life (especially when he doesn't > seem to be getting a very enthusiastic response). > > Surely you can find some other more typical examples > of world-class stupidity. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > "Concept of Siddha treatment:- > [snip] Speaking as moderator around here, please stop promoting your commercial website. Speaking as myself, no amount of ooga-booga Hindoo magic woo is going to change the very real fact that heavy metals are toxic. Within the last two years, there are half a dozen people in Fairfield who bought into such nonsense and ended up with very serious cases of heavy metal POISONING from taking rasayanas they got in India.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "evananda108" wrote: > > Of course one would never recommend actually > drinking the water the beads soak in. It looks like that's exactly what you're doing on the Web site, though. You have a disclaimer on your Divine Energy Healing site about consulting a physician and always following medical advice. You need to have something like that on the Navapashanam site as well. Either that or remove the stuff about drinking the bead-soaking water and wearing the beads close to the skin. BTW, the Divine Energy Healing site is very nicely done, I think. I also looked at Swami Kaleshwar's site, and his record of charitable projects is impressive. I had never heard of him or Shirdi Sai Baba. How did you become a student of Swami Kaleshwar, if I may ask? In India some people do, and they eat many funny things there too. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > evananda, it would be a good idea for you > > to put at the bottom of your navapashanam > > site (every page) a disclaimer such as the > > following (from another site that sells > > navapashanam beads): > > > > "IMPORTANT NOTICE Future Alchemy is > > providing these extremely rare and > > magical beads as talisman and blessing > > substances ONLY. One's decision to wear > > the bead next to the skin and/or soak > > the bead in liquid and drink it is > > entirely personal - THE OWNERS OF > > FUTURE ALCHEMY NEITHER RECOMMEND NOR > > ADVISE THIS PRACTICE. While we are > > extremely pleased to offer such an > > amazing alchemical substance, WE CANNOT > > BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY EFFECTS, > > POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, THAT COME FROM > > ITS USE." > > > > Or better still, get a lawyer to write > > an even more ironclad disclaimer for you. > > > > Mike Doughney, Vaj, and others on this > > forum would have no inhibitions about > > notifying the FDA (which has its own > > ideas as to what it wants to be involved > > in; it doesn't matter what *you* think). > > > > Even if this stuff *were* harmless, even if > > it *did* bring about miraculous healing, > > you're on potentially dangerous legal ground, > > at least in the U.S.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > I'm never disappointed when I visit Fairfield Life, as long > as I assume beforehand that I'm going to encounter at least > a few examples of world-class stupidity, sometimes of the > let's-go-wallow-in-heavy-metals variety. When was the last time, Mike? Wallowing in heavy metals is actually pretty rare here. It's amazing that your very infrequent visits just happen to coincide, don't you think? Couldn't be that you lurk on a regular basis just waiting for something to pounce on, could it? evananda, as it happens, isn't a regular; this is the first time he's posted here. So it's not quite fair to blame Fairfield Life (especially when he doesn't seem to be getting a very enthusiastic response). Surely you can find some other more typical examples of world-class stupidity.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > I like dealing with retarded perverts like you - I like that energy - it's > > my fuel, makes me feel high. > > Obviously. > > > The energy of Mother Kali, you bitch - suck in negative energy and convert > > it into pure creative energy. Not something a pervert like you would > > understand - anyway you don't have to understand. > > You really need to get over your vagina envy. > > > One more question - are you a pimp(intellectual) in a co-dependent > > relationship with the whore(intellect)? If so do you envisage the > > possibility of a life outside the hood (small self)? A blissful orgasm > > (enlightenment) with the beloved (Self)? > > I have this image of you drooling and babbling to yourself... > Very close description Mikey, very dizzy with bliss. You just caused a $200 loss to my client you retard but it was all worth it. Don't know why Kali makes me deal with mundane work when I can contribute so much dealing with perverts like you.
