[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes Wikipedia list of semi-protected articles
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing that need cooling down at wikipedia are the overheated brains of the Christian fundamentalists and other idiots that holds this article hostage. The problem did not start with a lot of material being added - this was actually met with some accolade (yes, I did get inspired when I spoitted that one of my favorit places for other types of info also had an article on TM and MMY). What prompted the Kali's Dead-Enders to lock me out was that I happened to take the criticism in this article seriously and investigated the sources used. I made a few observations on the unreliability of these (apperently hosted by anonmyous entities also hosting xxx-sites). The only response I got was rather muted and simply proclaimed ignorance of behind-the-TM-facade.org front-site. The the WHOIS entry for behind-the-TM-facade.org refers to Unstress4less, and the site's content does appear to me to be the same as the original Unstress4less site, which was likely the creation of a Christian fundie who used to post on a.m.t as Petrus. The most likely reason for Unstress4less now being a site about penis enlargement is that the original owner let the domain registration lapse, and it was scooped up by a domain squatter. Here is an article I posted to a.m.t in 2001 that details the info I was able to sniff out on the Unstress4less site: http://tinyurl.com/odqt5 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lik1AB/fOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes Wikipedia list of semi-protected articles
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose it could all be seen as an enlightening example of the down side of democracy - the leat intelligent and morally most corrupt common denominator sets the standard :-) Either that or a bunch of dueling egos waving their dicks at each other and acting like preadolescents... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lik1AB/fOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes Wikipedia list of semi-protected articles
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd rather descirbe myself as the sole catalyst, though I'd prefer to think of it in terms of shining some light in a very dark place - with the result that a variety of nocturnal ? bugs in panic realized daybreak is come :-) You really don't realize that this is exactly how the fanatics on the 'other side' view what they're doing, and you, do you? You share a mindset of fanaticism, just on different sides of the issue... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Your favorite religious organization? Make a donation at Network for Good. http://us.click.yahoo.com/EOl1HB/LPaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes Wikipedia list of semi-protected articles
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: I'd rather descirbe myself as the sole catalyst, though I'd prefer to think of it in terms of shining some light in a very dark place - with the result that a variety of nocturnal ? bugs in panic realized daybreak is come :-) You really don't realize that this is exactly how the fanatics on the 'other side' view what they're doing, and you, do you? You share a mindset of fanaticism, just on different sides of the issue... In other words, IMO the Wikipedia was correct in declaring the articles on TM off-limits to fanatics on either side. I'm currently involved with projects that have to do with user-maintained technical document- ation, which is prey to the same sorts of things. Most of the time it works out, and people limit themselves to correcting an inaccuracy or clari- fying a point that was less than clear in the original. (Such as the Linux user community.) But every so often flame wars develop, as users bring their egos into the equation, and then all the less-fanatical users have to suffer as dueling egos take turns erasing one comment and replacing it with their (supposedly) better comment. It's a damned shame. Whatever happened to the concept of it being OK to have different opinions on a subject, and allowing both opinions to be seen? The alternative seems to me to be a kind of white man's burden mentality that says, I cannot allow the poor, helpless masses to be exposed to less than the Truth (which I know, of course), so I have to get rid of the positive (or negative) view of this issue and replace it with the proper negative (or positive) view of the issue. Silly, and embarrassing for all concerned IMO... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/mDk17A/lOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes Wikipedia list of semi-protected articles
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: I'd rather descirbe myself as the sole catalyst, though I'd prefer to think of it in terms of shining some light in a very dark place - with the result that a variety of nocturnal ? bugs in panic realized daybreak is come :-) You really don't realize that this is exactly how the fanatics on the 'other side' view what they're doing, and you, do you? You share a mindset of fanaticism, just on different sides of the issue... Guessed you missed the :-) :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/iDk17A/hOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes Wikipedia list of semi-protected articles
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: I suppose it could all be seen as an enlightening example of the down side of democracy - the leat intelligent and morally most corrupt common denominator sets the standard :-) Either that or a bunch of dueling egos waving their dicks at each other and acting like preadolescents... No, that's not it - the grey eminences of the hijacking are operating in a seemingly detached and calculating manner. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/iDk17A/hOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes Wikipedia list of semi-protected articles
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: I'd rather descirbe myself as the sole catalyst, though I'd prefer to think of it in terms of shining some light in a very dark place - with the result that a variety of nocturnal ? bugs in panic realized daybreak is come :-) You really don't realize that this is exactly how the fanatics on the 'other side' view what they're doing, and you, do you? You share a mindset of fanaticism, just on different sides of the issue... In other words, IMO the Wikipedia was correct in declaring the articles on TM off-limits to fanatics on either side. [mercy snip] Have you checked the article? The fact is that the article have bene hijacked by enemimes of TM. Here's a link to the TM talk page which explains more.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Transcendental_Meditation#Article_and_WIkipedia_rules Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/iDk17A/hOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes Wikipedia list of semi-protected articles
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: I'd rather descirbe myself as the sole catalyst, though I'd prefer to think of it in terms of shining some light in a very dark place - with the result that a variety of nocturnal ? bugs in panic realized daybreak is come :-) You really don't realize that this is exactly how the fanatics on the 'other side' view what they're doing, and you, do you? You share a mindset of fanaticism, just on different sides of the issue... In other words, IMO the Wikipedia was correct in declaring the articles on TM off-limits to fanatics on either side. [mercy snip] Have you checked the article? The fact is that the article have bene hijacked by enemimes of TM. Here's a link to the TM talk page which explains more.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Talk:Transcendental_Meditation#Article_and_WIkipedia_rules Your paranoia is showing. Enemies of TM? Sheesh. While it is true that many/most/all of the people you cite have certain agendas that aren't exactly favorable to TM, the way you word your own contributions comes off as far more biased than any of the people you are complaining about. Whether or not this is actually the case is immaterial: YOU are the one whose rhetoric and actions scream bias. That you may actually have made some good points buried in all your ranting is likely the only reason why the Wikipedia editors are still allowing some level of participation on your part. If you want to have more influence on the content of the article, you need to take a step or three back, take a deep breath, and calm down. As it stands, at last in the context of the Wikipedia article you're more of an enemy of TM than Andrew Skolnick or Mike Doughney or Steve Hassan. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/iDk17A/hOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes Wikipedia list of semi-protected articles
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: I'd rather descirbe myself as the sole catalyst, though I'd prefer to think of it in terms of shining some light in a very dark place - with the result that a variety of nocturnal ? bugs in panic realized daybreak is come :-) You really don't realize that this is exactly how the fanatics on the 'other side' view what they're doing, and you, do you? You share a mindset of fanaticism, just on different sides of the issue... In other words, IMO the Wikipedia was correct in declaring the articles on TM off-limits to fanatics on either side. [mercy snip] Have you checked the article? The fact is that the article have bene hijacked by enemimes of TM. Here's a link to the TM talk page which explains more.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Talk:Transcendental_Meditation#Article_and_WIkipedia_rules Your paranoia is showing. Enemies of TM? Sheesh. While it is true that many/most/all of the people you cite have certain agendas that aren't exactly favorable to TM, the way you word your own contributions comes off as far more biased than any of the people you are complaining about. Whether or not this is actually the case is immaterial: YOU are the one whose rhetoric and actions scream bias. That you may actually have made some good points buried in all your ranting is likely the only reason why the Wikipedia editors are still allowing some level of participation on your part. If you want to have more influence on the content of the article, you need to take a step or three back, take a deep breath, and calm down. As it stands, at last in the context of the Wikipedia article you're more of an enemy of TM than Andrew Skolnick or Mike Doughney or Steve Hassan. Read - won't comment :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/jDk17A/gOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes Wikipedia list of semi-protected articles
There have been a lot of discussions about the TM entry on wikipedia. Last I checked there were several archives. Since TM has been in the news lately, perhaps the activity picked up and they decided to cool things down a bit. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TM is on the list with such controversial topics as Palestinian refugee, William Shakespeare, Comfort women and PlayStation 3. From the New York Times: http://tinyurl.com/g4h5n Trouble Spots Selected Wikipedia articles that site administrators have placed under restrictions to protect them from vandalism or editing wars. Transcendental Meditation is on the list of semi- protected articles which users can edit only if they have been registered with the site for at least four days. Has anyone here been involved in changing the TM article in dispute with other editors? Protected articles, which cannot be edited at all, include 2004 United States election voting controversies, Ohio and Islam and anti-Semitism. http://tinyurl.com/g4h5n Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/jDk17A/gOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes Wikipedia list of semi-protected articles
The only thing that need cooling down at wikipedia are the overheated brains of the Christian fundamentalists and other idiots that holds this article hostage. The problem did not start with a lot of material being added - this was actually met with some accolade (yes, I did get inspired when I spoitted that one of my favorit places for other types of info also had an article on TM and MMY). What prompted the Kali's Dead-Enders to lock me out was that I happened to take the criticism in this article seriously and investigated the sources used. I made a few observations on the unreliability of these (apperently hosted by anonmyous entities also hosting xxx-sites). The only response I got was rather muted and simply proclaimed ignorance of behind-the-TM-facade.org front-site. I waited for more reactions to my comments, but none were forthcoming. I thend id the wikipedian thing and removed the criticism until such a time that someone could substantiate the allegations or come up with a good reason to keep what evidently is Christian smear-campaign material in article about Transcendental Meditation. As it were, the wikipedians involved were more interested in keeping the article in the mud i.a. by holding on to the totallydisputed tag and other things there that is likley to make any sane person stay away from both wikipedia and TM. I suppose it could all be seen as an enlightening example of the down side of democracy - the leat intelligent and morally most corrupt common denominator sets the standard :-) Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There have been a lot of discussions about the TM entry on wikipedia. Last I checked there were several archives. Since TM has been in the news lately, perhaps the activity picked up and they decided to cool things down a bit. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: TM is on the list with such controversial topics as Palestinian refugee, William Shakespeare, Comfort women and PlayStation 3. From the New York Times: http://tinyurl.com/g4h5n Trouble Spots Selected Wikipedia articles that site administrators have placed under restrictions to protect them from vandalism or editing wars. Transcendental Meditation is on the list of semi- protected articles which users can edit only if they have been registered with the site for at least four days. Has anyone here been involved in changing the TM article in dispute with other editors? Protected articles, which cannot be edited at all, include 2004 United States election voting controversies, Ohio and Islam and anti-Semitism. http://tinyurl.com/g4h5n Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Hik1AB/bOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes Wikipedia list of semi-protected articles
In other words, you helped create the controversy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing that need cooling down at wikipedia are the overheated brains of the Christian fundamentalists and other idiots that holds this article hostage. The problem did not start with a lot of material being added - this was actually met with some accolade (yes, I did get inspired when I spoitted that one of my favorit places for other types of info also had an article on TM and MMY). What prompted the Kali's Dead-Enders to lock me out was that I happened to take the criticism in this article seriously and investigated the sources used. I made a few observations on the unreliability of these (apperently hosted by anonmyous entities also hosting xxx-sites). The only response I got was rather muted and simply proclaimed ignorance of behind-the-TM-facade.org front-site. I waited for more reactions to my comments, but none were forthcoming. I thend id the wikipedian thing and removed the criticism until such a time that someone could substantiate the allegations or come up with a good reason to keep what evidently is Christian smear-campaign material in article about Transcendental Meditation. As it were, the wikipedians involved were more interested in keeping the article in the mud i.a. by holding on to the totallydisputed tag and other things there that is likley to make any sane person stay away from both wikipedia and TM. I suppose it could all be seen as an enlightening example of the down side of democracy - the leat intelligent and morally most corrupt common denominator sets the standard :-) Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: There have been a lot of discussions about the TM entry on wikipedia. Last I checked there were several archives. Since TM has been in the news lately, perhaps the activity picked up and they decided to cool things down a bit. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: TM is on the list with such controversial topics as Palestinian refugee, William Shakespeare, Comfort women and PlayStation 3. From the New York Times: http://tinyurl.com/g4h5n Trouble Spots Selected Wikipedia articles that site administrators have placed under restrictions to protect them from vandalism or editing wars. Transcendental Meditation is on the list of semi- protected articles which users can edit only if they have been registered with the site for at least four days. Has anyone here been involved in changing the TM article in dispute with other editors? Protected articles, which cannot be edited at all, include 2004 United States election voting controversies, Ohio and Islam and anti-Semitism. http://tinyurl.com/g4h5n Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Hik1AB/bOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes Wikipedia list of semi-protected articles
I'd rather descirbe myself as the sole catalyst, though I'd prefer to think of it in terms of shining some light in a very dark place - with the result that a variety of nocturnal bugs in panic realized daybreak is come :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words, you helped create the controversy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: The only thing that need cooling down at wikipedia are the overheated brains of the Christian fundamentalists and other idiots that holds this article hostage. The problem did not start with a lot of material being added - this was actually met with some accolade (yes, I did get inspired when I spoitted that one of my favorit places for other types of info also had an article on TM and MMY). What prompted the Kali's Dead-Enders to lock me out was that I happened to take the criticism in this article seriously and investigated the sources used. I made a few observations on the unreliability of these (apperently hosted by anonmyous entities also hosting xxx-sites). The only response I got was rather muted and simply proclaimed ignorance of behind-the-TM-facade.org front-site. I waited for more reactions to my comments, but none were forthcoming. I thend id the wikipedian thing and removed the criticism until such a time that someone could substantiate the allegations or come up with a good reason to keep what evidently is Christian smear-campaign material in article about Transcendental Meditation. As it were, the wikipedians involved were more interested in keeping the article in the mud i.a. by holding on to the totallydisputed tag and other things there that is likley to make any sane person stay away from both wikipedia and TM. I suppose it could all be seen as an enlightening example of the down side of democracy - the leat intelligent and morally most corrupt common denominator sets the standard :-) Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: There have been a lot of discussions about the TM entry on wikipedia. Last I checked there were several archives. Since TM has been in the news lately, perhaps the activity picked up and they decided to cool things down a bit. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: TM is on the list with such controversial topics as Palestinian refugee, William Shakespeare, Comfort women and PlayStation 3. From the New York Times: http://tinyurl.com/g4h5n Trouble Spots Selected Wikipedia articles that site administrators have placed under restrictions to protect them from vandalism or editing wars. Transcendental Meditation is on the list of semi- protected articles which users can edit only if they have been registered with the site for at least four days. Has anyone here been involved in changing the TM article in dispute with other editors? Protected articles, which cannot be edited at all, include 2004 United States election voting controversies, Ohio and Islam and anti-Semitism. http://tinyurl.com/g4h5n Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/mDk17A/lOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/