[FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers all agreed not to see other gurus

2005-07-17 Thread lupidus108

 It's not just a matter of Vedic knowledge being distorted, but 
 Bevanity distorts everything -- it has to. But, as people are tired 
 of hearing from me, it does not matter, because only a slow unfolding 
 of enlightenment values can work in the Kaliyuga, so everything will 
 come out in the wash, no problem:
 
 http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.html#light

I'm certainly not tired of hearing from you. I find, among other 
things, your collection of quotes from Maharishi truly uplifting, and 
many of your analysis very interesting.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers all agreed not to see other gurus

2005-07-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This issue came up repeatedly during a community meeting last summer
 hosted by TM movement leaders. Robert Keith Wallace, an M.U.M. trustee
 and the university's first president, fielded several questions about
 reports of people being banned from the domes after visiting other
 spiritual leaders.
 
 Wallace said TM teachers all agreed when they became teachers not to 
see
 other gurus.
 
 
 Yikes I did?
 
 I don't remember that part.

Probably a relatively recent addition. Did you become a TM teacher 
after Robin Carlson proclaimed himself Shankaracharya of NOrth America?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers all agreed not to see other gurus

2005-07-16 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This issue came up repeatedly during a community meeting last summer
 hosted by TM movement leaders. Robert Keith Wallace, an M.U.M. trustee
 and the university's first president, fielded several questions about
 reports of people being banned from the domes after visiting other
 spiritual leaders.
 
 Wallace said TM teachers all agreed when they became teachers not to 
see
 other gurus.
 
 
 Yikes I did?
 
 I don't remember that part.

In all the agreements that I have signed since I became a TM-Teacher in 
1975, it says nothing about not to see other gurus. What we did sign, 
was to keep the knowledge pure and not give it out to other 
organisations.
Ingegerd






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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers all agreed not to see other gurus

2005-07-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 on 7/15/05 10:35 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  And that would have been bad because...?
 
 It would imply that the TM teacher had not received total knowledge
 from MMY, but seeking knowledge elsewhere. (Maharishi said that.)

And, to be honest, he assumed that other teachers
would do what *he* does, which is take advantage
of anyone seen with him, and use them to sell their
technique and their tradition.

Plus the obvious -- if what you're selling to your
naive students is a fairly watered-down version of 
commonly-available techniques and dogma, in a box
with the highest knowledge printed on the label, 
you really don't want them encountering any other 
product and comparing it to your own.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers all agreed not to see other gurus

2005-07-16 Thread Peter Sutphen


--- Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This issue came up repeatedly during a community
 meeting last summer
  hosted by TM movement leaders. Robert Keith
 Wallace, an M.U.M. trustee
  and the university's first president, fielded
 several questions about
  reports of people being banned from the domes
 after visiting other
  spiritual leaders.
  
  Wallace said TM teachers all agreed when they
 became teachers not to 
 see
  other gurus.
  
  
  Yikes I did?
  
  I don't remember that part.
 
 In all the agreements that I have signed since I
 became a TM-Teacher in 
 1975, it says nothing about not to see other gurus.
 What we did sign, 
 was to keep the knowledge pure and not give it out
 to other 
 organizations.
 Ingegerd

Nor did I sign any agreement in 1973. Again, it is
just revisionist history. Don't deal with the current
problem, just make others wrong. It's like the TMO has
a narcissistic personality disorder: arrogant on the
outside to defend against massive unconscious
insecurity inside.



 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers all agreed not to see other gurus

2005-07-16 Thread Peter Sutphen


--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This issue came up repeatedly during a community
 meeting last summer
  hosted by TM movement leaders. Robert Keith
 Wallace, an M.U.M. trustee
  and the university's first president, fielded
 several questions about
  reports of people being banned from the domes
 after visiting other
  spiritual leaders.
  
  Wallace said TM teachers all agreed when they
 became teachers not to 
 see
  other gurus.
  
  
  Yikes I did?
  
  I don't remember that part.
 
 Probably a relatively recent addition. Did you
 become a TM teacher 
 after Robin Carlson proclaimed himself
 Shankaracharya of NOrth America?

I was on Purusha in Fairfield when all this Robin
Carlson stuff started. Did you know that MMY
specifically told Bevan (and I heard this directly
from Bevan himself) to ignore RC and Bevan did
everthing but that? This supports Bob's position that
MMY is surrounded by morons!




 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers all agreed not to see other gurus

2005-07-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  on 7/15/05 10:35 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   And that would have been bad because...?
  
  It would imply that the TM teacher had not received total 
knowledge
  from MMY, but seeking knowledge elsewhere. (Maharishi said that.)
 
 And, to be honest, he assumed that other teachers
 would do what *he* does, which is take advantage
 of anyone seen with him, and use them to sell their
 technique and their tradition.
 
 Plus the obvious -- if what you're selling to your
 naive students is a fairly watered-down version of 
 commonly-available techniques and dogma, in a box
 with the highest knowledge printed on the label, 
 you really don't want them encountering any other 
 product and comparing it to your own.

Of course, if someone really IS selling the original, while 
everyone else is selling distorted versions presented as advanced, 
your observation doesn't apply.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers all agreed not to see other gurus

2005-07-16 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   This issue came up repeatedly during a community
  meeting last summer
   hosted by TM movement leaders. Robert Keith
  Wallace, an M.U.M. trustee
   and the university's first president, fielded
  several questions about
   reports of people being banned from the domes
  after visiting other
   spiritual leaders.
   
   Wallace said TM teachers all agreed when they
  became teachers not to 
  see
   other gurus.
   
   
   Yikes I did?
   
   I don't remember that part.
  
  Probably a relatively recent addition. Did you
  become a TM teacher 
  after Robin Carlson proclaimed himself
  Shankaracharya of NOrth America?
 
 I was on Purusha in Fairfield when all this Robin
 Carlson stuff started. Did you know that MMY
 specifically told Bevan (and I heard this directly
 from Bevan himself) to ignore RC and Bevan did
 everthing but that? This supports Bob's position that
 MMY is surrounded by morons!
 




As MMY (and others) have said, Behavior is a spontaneous expression 
of one's level of consciousness. Try as they might to be compliant 
with MMY's wishes, stupid people like Bevan can only be obnoxious and 
do everything but what MMY has said.

From the preface to MMY's commentary on the Gita: 
This is the tragedy of knowledge, the tragic fate that knowledge 
must meet at the hands of ignorance. It is inevitable, because the 
teaching comes from one level of consciousness and is received at 
quite a different level.

It's not just a matter of Vedic knowledge being distorted, but 
Bevanity distorts everything -- it has to. But, as people are tired 
of hearing from me, it does not matter, because only a slow unfolding 
of enlightenment values can work in the Kaliyuga, so everything will 
come out in the wash, no problem:

http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.html#light




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