[FairfieldLife] Re: Tales From The Afterlife

2011-05-24 Thread wayback71


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  wrote:
> >
> > I read Sum, too. Amazing. I also particularly liked the 
> > chapter Quantum.
> 
> Skipped ahead and read it. Spit my juice out laughing
> at the end.  :-)

I know - just amazing ending and so true!
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > Since everybody's talking about the afterlife lately, here are 
> > > a few excerpts from the smartest book I've read on the subject 
> > > in some time, David Eagleman's "Sum: Forty Tales From The 
> > > Afterlives." The second one got a laugh out of me when I 
> > > discovered it today because only yesterday I proposed a 
> > > similar scenario.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Sum
> > > 
> > > In  the afterlife you relive all your experiences, but this time with
> > > the  events reshuffled into a new order: all the moments that share a
> > > quality  are grouped together.
> > > 
> > > You spend two months driving the street in  front of your house, seven
> > > months having sex. You sleep for thirty  years without opening your
> > > eyes. For five months straight you flip  through magazines while sitting
> > > on a toilet.
> > > 
> > > You take all your  pain at once, all twenty-seven intense hours of it.
> > > Bones break, cars  crash, skin is cut, babies are born. Once you make it
> > > through, it's  agony-free for the rest of your afterlife.
> > > 
> > > But that doesn't mean  it's always pleasant. You spend six days
> > > clipping your nails. Fifteen  months looking for lost items. Eighteen
> > > months waiting in
> > > line. Two  years of boredom: staring out a bus window, sitting in an
> > > airport  terminal. One year reading books. Your eyes hurt, and you itch,
> > > because  you can't take a shower until it's your time to take
> > > your marathon  two-hundred-day shower. Two weeks wondering what happens
> > > when you die.  One minute realizing your body is falling. Seventy-seven
> > > hours of  confusion. One hour realizing you've forgotten
> > > someone's name. Three  weeks realizing you are wrong. Two days
> > > lying. Six weeks waiting for a  green light. Seven hours vomiting.
> > > Fourteen minutes experiencing pure  joy. Three months doing laundry.
> > > Fifteen hours writing your signature.  Two days tying shoelaces.
> > > Sixty-seven days of heartbreak. Five weeks  driving lost. Three days
> > > calculating restaurant tips. Fifty-one days  deciding what to wear. Nine
> > > days pretending you know what is being  talked about. Two weeks counting
> > > money. Eighteen days staring into the  refrigerator. Thirty-four days
> > > longing. Six months watching commercials.  Four weeks sitting in
> > > thought, wondering if there is something better  you could be doing with
> > > your time. Three years swallowing food. Five  days working buttons and
> > > zippers. Four minutes wondering what your life  would be like if you
> > > reshuffled the order of events. In this part of the  afterlife, you
> > > imagine something analogous to your Earthly life, and  the thought is
> > > blissful: a life where episodes are split into tiny  swallowable pieces,
> > > where moments do not endure, where one experiences  the joy of jumping
> > > from one event to the next like a child hopping from  spot to spot on
> > > the burning sand.
> > > 
> > > Egalitaire
> > > 
> > > In  the afterlife you discover that God understands the complexities of 
> > > life. She had originally submitted to peer pressure when She structured 
> > > Her universe like all the other gods had, with a binary categorization 
> > > of people into good and evil. But it didn't take long for Her to
> > > realize  that humans could be good in many ways and simultaneously
> > > corrupt and  meanspirited in other ways. How was She to arbitrate who
> > > goes to Heaven  and who to Hell? Might not it be possible, She
> > > considered, that a man  could be an embezzler and still give to
> > > charitable causes? Might not a  woman be an adulteress but bring
> > > pleasure and security to two men's  lives? Might not a child
> > > unwittingly divulge secrets that splinter a  family? Dividing the
> > > population into two categories—good and bad—seemed  like a more
> > > reasonable task when She was younger, but with experience  these
> > > decisions became more difficult. She composed complex formulas to  weigh
> > > hundreds of factors, and ran computer programs that rolled out  long
> > > strips of paper with eternal decisions. But Her sensitivities  revolted
> > > at this automation—and when the computer generated a decision  She
> > > disagreed with, She took the opportunity to kick out the plug in  rage.
> > > That afternoon She listened to the grievances of the dead from two 
> > > warring nations. Both sides had suffered, both sides had legitimate 
> > > grievances, both pled their cases earnestly. She covered Her ears and 
> > > moaned in misery. She knew 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tales From The Afterlife

2011-05-24 Thread whynotnow7
"I'll accomplish this by incarnating in a world where humor is considered to be 
on a far higher plane than being serious..."

But Barry, most folks ALREADY laugh at you here. Isn't that blissful enough? 
:-) 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain  wrote:
> >
> > > Descent of Species
> > > 
> > > In the afterlife, you are treated to a generous opportunity: 
> > > you can choose whatever you would like to be in the next life. 
> > > Would you like to be a member of the opposite sex? Born into 
> > > royalty? A philosopher with bottomless profundity? A soldier 
> > > facing triumphant battles?
> > > 
> > > But  perhaps you've just returned here from a hard life. 
> > > Perhaps you were tortured by the enormity of the decisions and 
> > > responsibilities that surrounded you, and now there's only one 
> > > thing you yearn for: simplicity. ...
> > 
> > Assuming such mechanics, what would you all chose to be in 
> > the next life?
> 
> Since we all know that Judy will take her obsession
> with me to the grave and beyond, into the next life,
> I'd like to be so inaccessible that she is unable to 
> find me, and spends the entire incarnation not only
> obsessed but frustrated in that obsession. 
> 
> I'll accomplish this by incarnating in a world where
> humor is considered to be on a far higher plane than
> being serious, and where no one ever is tempted to be 
> "taken seriously" or to be considered an "authority."
> The very existence of such a world would trigger so 
> many aversion reactions in her that she'd avoid it 
> like the plague.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Tales From The Afterlife

2011-05-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain  wrote:

> Assuming such mechanics, what would you all chose to be in
> the next life?

Either an opera singer or the owner of a horse farm.
Seriously.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Tales From The Afterlife

2011-05-24 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain  wrote:
>
> > Descent of Species
> > 
> > In the afterlife, you are treated to a generous opportunity: 
> > you can choose whatever you would like to be in the next life. 
> > Would you like to be a member of the opposite sex? Born into 
> > royalty? A philosopher with bottomless profundity? A soldier 
> > facing triumphant battles?
> > 
> > But  perhaps you've just returned here from a hard life. 
> > Perhaps you were tortured by the enormity of the decisions and 
> > responsibilities that surrounded you, and now there's only one 
> > thing you yearn for: simplicity. ...
> 
> Assuming such mechanics, what would you all chose to be in 
> the next life?

Since we all know that Judy will take her obsession
with me to the grave and beyond, into the next life,
I'd like to be so inaccessible that she is unable to 
find me, and spends the entire incarnation not only
obsessed but frustrated in that obsession. 

I'll accomplish this by incarnating in a world where
humor is considered to be on a far higher plane than
being serious, and where no one ever is tempted to be 
"taken seriously" or to be considered an "authority."
The very existence of such a world would trigger so 
many aversion reactions in her that she'd avoid it 
like the plague.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Tales From The Afterlife

2011-05-24 Thread tartbrain

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Since everybody's talking about the afterlife lately, here are a few
> excerpts from the smartest book I've read on the subject in some time,
> David Eagleman's "Sum: Forty Tales From The Afterlives." The second one
> got a laugh out of me when I discovered it today because only yesterday
> I proposed a similar scenario.
> 
> 
>
> Descent of Species
> 
> In  the afterlife, you are treated to a generous opportunity: you can 
> choose whatever you would like to be in the next life. Would you like to
> be a member of the opposite sex? Born into royalty? A philosopher with 
> bottomless profundity? A soldier facing triumphant battles?
> 
> But  perhaps you've just returned here from a hard life. Perhaps you
> were  tortured by the enormity of the decisions and responsibilities
> that  surrounded you, and now there's only one thing you yearn for: 
> simplicity. ...

Assuming such mechanics, what would you all chose to be in the next life?

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Tales From The Afterlife

2011-05-24 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  wrote:
>
> I read Sum, too. Amazing. I also particularly liked the 
> chapter Quantum.

Skipped ahead and read it. Spit my juice out laughing
at the end.  :-)

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Since everybody's talking about the afterlife lately, here are 
> > a few excerpts from the smartest book I've read on the subject 
> > in some time, David Eagleman's "Sum: Forty Tales From The 
> > Afterlives." The second one got a laugh out of me when I 
> > discovered it today because only yesterday I proposed a 
> > similar scenario.
> > 
> > 
> > Sum
> > 
> > In  the afterlife you relive all your experiences, but this time with
> > the  events reshuffled into a new order: all the moments that share a
> > quality  are grouped together.
> > 
> > You spend two months driving the street in  front of your house, seven
> > months having sex. You sleep for thirty  years without opening your
> > eyes. For five months straight you flip  through magazines while sitting
> > on a toilet.
> > 
> > You take all your  pain at once, all twenty-seven intense hours of it.
> > Bones break, cars  crash, skin is cut, babies are born. Once you make it
> > through, it's  agony-free for the rest of your afterlife.
> > 
> > But that doesn't mean  it's always pleasant. You spend six days
> > clipping your nails. Fifteen  months looking for lost items. Eighteen
> > months waiting in
> > line. Two  years of boredom: staring out a bus window, sitting in an
> > airport  terminal. One year reading books. Your eyes hurt, and you itch,
> > because  you can't take a shower until it's your time to take
> > your marathon  two-hundred-day shower. Two weeks wondering what happens
> > when you die.  One minute realizing your body is falling. Seventy-seven
> > hours of  confusion. One hour realizing you've forgotten
> > someone's name. Three  weeks realizing you are wrong. Two days
> > lying. Six weeks waiting for a  green light. Seven hours vomiting.
> > Fourteen minutes experiencing pure  joy. Three months doing laundry.
> > Fifteen hours writing your signature.  Two days tying shoelaces.
> > Sixty-seven days of heartbreak. Five weeks  driving lost. Three days
> > calculating restaurant tips. Fifty-one days  deciding what to wear. Nine
> > days pretending you know what is being  talked about. Two weeks counting
> > money. Eighteen days staring into the  refrigerator. Thirty-four days
> > longing. Six months watching commercials.  Four weeks sitting in
> > thought, wondering if there is something better  you could be doing with
> > your time. Three years swallowing food. Five  days working buttons and
> > zippers. Four minutes wondering what your life  would be like if you
> > reshuffled the order of events. In this part of the  afterlife, you
> > imagine something analogous to your Earthly life, and  the thought is
> > blissful: a life where episodes are split into tiny  swallowable pieces,
> > where moments do not endure, where one experiences  the joy of jumping
> > from one event to the next like a child hopping from  spot to spot on
> > the burning sand.
> > 
> > Egalitaire
> > 
> > In  the afterlife you discover that God understands the complexities of 
> > life. She had originally submitted to peer pressure when She structured 
> > Her universe like all the other gods had, with a binary categorization 
> > of people into good and evil. But it didn't take long for Her to
> > realize  that humans could be good in many ways and simultaneously
> > corrupt and  meanspirited in other ways. How was She to arbitrate who
> > goes to Heaven  and who to Hell? Might not it be possible, She
> > considered, that a man  could be an embezzler and still give to
> > charitable causes? Might not a  woman be an adulteress but bring
> > pleasure and security to two men's  lives? Might not a child
> > unwittingly divulge secrets that splinter a  family? Dividing the
> > population into two categories—good and bad—seemed  like a more
> > reasonable task when She was younger, but with experience  these
> > decisions became more difficult. She composed complex formulas to  weigh
> > hundreds of factors, and ran computer programs that rolled out  long
> > strips of paper with eternal decisions. But Her sensitivities  revolted
> > at this automation—and when the computer generated a decision  She
> > disagreed with, She took the opportunity to kick out the plug in  rage.
> > That afternoon She listened to the grievances of the dead from two 
> > warring nations. Both sides had suffered, both sides had legitimate 
> > grievances, both pled their cases earnestly. She covered Her ears and 
> > moaned in misery. She knew Her humans were multidimensional, and She 
> > could no longer live under the rigid architecture of Her youthful 
> > choices.
> > 
> > Not all gods suffer over this; we can consider ourselves  lucky that in
> > death we answer to a God with deep sensitivity to the  byzanti

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tales From The Afterlife

2011-05-24 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> 
> 
> As I died, things seemed to fade out and then>


The cell phone you were texting this message on fell out of your hand. That 
pretty Dominican nurse who used to kindly flirt with you in your last days 
picked up the phone from the floor and hit "send".






 
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Tales From The Afterlife

2011-05-24 Thread whynotnow7
Looks like you two geniuses got it all figured out. Congrats! 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On May 24, 2011, at 6:49 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> 
> >
> > Since everybody's talking about the afterlife lately, here are a  
> > few excerpts from the smartest book I've read on the subject in  
> > some time, David Eagleman's "Sum: Forty Tales From The Afterlives."  
> > The second one got a laugh out of me when I discovered it today  
> > because only yesterday I proposed a similar scenario.
> >
> 
> 
>  From Vic Stenger (the guy who debunked Maharishi's Vedic Quantum BS):
> 
> Why out-of-body and near-death experiences don't prove God
> 
> Alex Lickerman is a physician at the University of Chicago who, until  
> recently, was in charge of all primary care doctors at the hospital  
> (he's now head of student health).  In "The neurology of near-death  
> experiences", he debunks the religious trappings that attach to the  
> "out-of-body" and similar experiences that occur in conjunction with  
> operations and medical episodes.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Tales From The Afterlife

2011-05-24 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius


As I died, things seemed to fade out and then



[FairfieldLife] Re: Tales From The Afterlife

2011-05-24 Thread wayback71
I read Sum, too.  Amazing.  I also particularly liked the chapter Quantum.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Since everybody's talking about the afterlife lately, here are a few
> excerpts from the smartest book I've read on the subject in some time,
> David Eagleman's "Sum: Forty Tales From The Afterlives." The second one
> got a laugh out of me when I discovered it today because only yesterday
> I proposed a similar scenario.
> 
> 
> Sum
> 
> In  the afterlife you relive all your experiences, but this time with
> the  events reshuffled into a new order: all the moments that share a
> quality  are grouped together.
> 
> You spend two months driving the street in  front of your house, seven
> months having sex. You sleep for thirty  years without opening your
> eyes. For five months straight you flip  through magazines while sitting
> on a toilet.
> 
> You take all your  pain at once, all twenty-seven intense hours of it.
> Bones break, cars  crash, skin is cut, babies are born. Once you make it
> through, it's  agony-free for the rest of your afterlife.
> 
> But that doesn't mean  it's always pleasant. You spend six days
> clipping your nails. Fifteen  months looking for lost items. Eighteen
> months waiting in
> line. Two  years of boredom: staring out a bus window, sitting in an
> airport  terminal. One year reading books. Your eyes hurt, and you itch,
> because  you can't take a shower until it's your time to take
> your marathon  two-hundred-day shower. Two weeks wondering what happens
> when you die.  One minute realizing your body is falling. Seventy-seven
> hours of  confusion. One hour realizing you've forgotten
> someone's name. Three  weeks realizing you are wrong. Two days
> lying. Six weeks waiting for a  green light. Seven hours vomiting.
> Fourteen minutes experiencing pure  joy. Three months doing laundry.
> Fifteen hours writing your signature.  Two days tying shoelaces.
> Sixty-seven days of heartbreak. Five weeks  driving lost. Three days
> calculating restaurant tips. Fifty-one days  deciding what to wear. Nine
> days pretending you know what is being  talked about. Two weeks counting
> money. Eighteen days staring into the  refrigerator. Thirty-four days
> longing. Six months watching commercials.  Four weeks sitting in
> thought, wondering if there is something better  you could be doing with
> your time. Three years swallowing food. Five  days working buttons and
> zippers. Four minutes wondering what your life  would be like if you
> reshuffled the order of events. In this part of the  afterlife, you
> imagine something analogous to your Earthly life, and  the thought is
> blissful: a life where episodes are split into tiny  swallowable pieces,
> where moments do not endure, where one experiences  the joy of jumping
> from one event to the next like a child hopping from  spot to spot on
> the burning sand.
> 
> Egalitaire
> 
> In  the afterlife you discover that God understands the complexities of 
> life. She had originally submitted to peer pressure when She structured 
> Her universe like all the other gods had, with a binary categorization 
> of people into good and evil. But it didn't take long for Her to
> realize  that humans could be good in many ways and simultaneously
> corrupt and  meanspirited in other ways. How was She to arbitrate who
> goes to Heaven  and who to Hell? Might not it be possible, She
> considered, that a man  could be an embezzler and still give to
> charitable causes? Might not a  woman be an adulteress but bring
> pleasure and security to two men's  lives? Might not a child
> unwittingly divulge secrets that splinter a  family? Dividing the
> population into two categories—good and bad—seemed  like a more
> reasonable task when She was younger, but with experience  these
> decisions became more difficult. She composed complex formulas to  weigh
> hundreds of factors, and ran computer programs that rolled out  long
> strips of paper with eternal decisions. But Her sensitivities  revolted
> at this automation—and when the computer generated a decision  She
> disagreed with, She took the opportunity to kick out the plug in  rage.
> That afternoon She listened to the grievances of the dead from two 
> warring nations. Both sides had suffered, both sides had legitimate 
> grievances, both pled their cases earnestly. She covered Her ears and 
> moaned in misery. She knew Her humans were multidimensional, and She 
> could no longer live under the rigid architecture of Her youthful 
> choices.
> 
> Not all gods suffer over this; we can consider ourselves  lucky that in
> death we answer to a God with deep sensitivity to the  byzantine hearts
> of Her creations. For months She moped around Her  living room in
> Heaven, head drooped like a bulrush, while the lines  piled up. Her
> advisors advised Her to delegate the decision making, but  She loved Her
> humans too much to leave them to the care of anyone else.
> 
> In  a moment of de