[FairfieldLife] Re: The BBC: Saint who has lived without food, water for 70 yrs
Lurk -- you did not read my words correctly. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > Lurk, > > The guy has not been observed long enough to declare a miracle. This means I want to see more time spent no peeing etc.not that the proof so far is not valid. And, as we know, bribery is the life blood of India. The guy could be merely fasting and secretly pissing in a wad of tissue which he hands off to a friend. "Could" is the operative word -- science tries to eliminate all these other explanations, but the video doesn't seem to want to bring us into the experiment enough to show us why they are so certain that this guy is not a scammer. They get all the drugs they want in prison, right -- so how hard would it be to fool a few doctors and nurses if the guy has an accomplice on staff? And bribery is rampent in India -- not that I know this by personal experience, but who here has not read this a million times? They seem sincere, but so does Girish probably. > > I saw this article yesterday about an American guy, decades ago, that went around showing folks how he could be run completely through by a sword. Turns out he had taken a year and built a shaft thought his body like one has through an earlobe for an earring -- talk about your dedicated scammers! This one example serves us all as a warning that extraordinary acts often are hidden in order to pull a ruse. That's once being fooled -- this miracle man is being examined and I'm over here waiting for any proof that the experiment is really controlled by the doctors such that tomfoolery is out of the question. > > Same deal with this yogi -- even two dollars is big time motivation in India. Get international acclaim, no matter how temporary, and the guy's going on a speaking tour for the rest of his life as "the saint." In today's global media, all it takes is one 15 minute spotlight, and you've got a book deal, an ashram and a thug who's come to the fore to help you promulgate the scam. India is, what?, 80% true believers in yogic powers, right? They may not have much money, but nickels and dimes in the collection plates can add up fast. > > Western science is not going to have a second thought about this. Note that I didn't say "Edg is not going to give this a second thought." Indeed, if more info comes out, I'll examine it. I do believe in siddhis -- just that they're way to important to not give them the highest standards to uphold before I'll bend a knee to a sacred accomplishment. Google "levitation," and you'll see MANY HOLY PEOPLE doing so -- yet obviously most are merely hucksters taking pennies from the poor. Same deal with any other claim. What don't we get about the extreme ploys poverty breeds in the 3rd world? Hell, look at Sunday Faith Healers in America plying their trade. And who here hasn't been taken to the cleaners by the TMO? Failed promises, adulterous leaders, no hovering, black lists, bureaucratic potentates, pundit slaves, government money scams, blatantly stupid expenditures, criminal actions like money laundering by the bucket load, classis, cronyism, hugger, and even MURDER ON THE CAMPUSseldom has a cult tested its true believers so harshly -- when they come out with the 55 gallon Kool Aid solution, who will be surprised? Edg > Edg > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" steve.sundur@ wrote: > > > > I saw this article earlier this week, and didn't get a chance to comment on it. Recently Edg commented that had Fred Lenz really been able to levitate that you would have gobs of people and press, and even the govenrment all over it. > > > > And I said that sometimes the things you expect the press and culture to jumb on, they don't. To me this is an example of this. If this is true, is this not as remarkable a feat as leviatation? I saw this story on a major media web site, on the front page, Tuesday or Wednesday. Is this getting more than a passing interest from the press, and culture. Doesn't seem like it. And then, why not? > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > > > The BBC's 2-minute video-report on an Indian saint who has lived with no > > > food, no water, for over 70 years: > > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8652837.stm > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The BBC: Saint who has lived without food, water for 70 yrs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anatol_zinc" > wrote: > > > > don't know if this guy is genuine > > but believe it is possible > > > in Autobiography of a Yogi, Paramahansa Yogananda writes about > > two lady saints who did not take food for decades one was a > > Catholic nun whom I assume was investigated and watched by > > the church > > > > but most of all I believe Yogananda > > > > and more recently, Mooji of www.mooji.org > > said that he knows personally a whole family, > > except for the youngest one, in South Brazil > > who are breatherians > > > > science cannot prove that something like this is not possible, > > therefore, anyone who wishes to relive that it is possible > > is basically saying this is my hypothesis > > and it remains to be proven one way or the other > > Edg dismissed the story outright as an impossibility or a fraud. > Turq, if I followed his line of reasoning, seemed to dismiss it > as well. Lurk, I'm chiming in because I like you, and you did, in fact, fail to follow my "line of reasoning." I said nothing whatsoever about this story. My comments were solely about the mindset of people who either believe the story upon hearing it, or disbelieve it upon hearing it. I care *nothing* about "miracle stories" in general, or about this one in particular. I have had it up to here with miracles in my life with no discernible benefit as a result. But I *am* curious as to the *ways that spiritual seekers think*. Above you see one example of this "how." Anatol, as sweet and as nice a guy as he probably is, "believes Yogananda," a man he never met. Not a heckuva lot of discrimination goin' on there. Edg, at the other pole, believes the story is a fraud, and a knowing one, while having no more "hands on" experience with the miracle-maker in question than Anatol. Not a heckuva lot of discrimination there, either. My only point in chiming in on this thread in the first place was to suggest that when it comes to "siddhi stories" or "miracle stories," there is almost no discrimination goin' on, period. People use "miracle stories" as a way of *reinforcing what they already believe*. They don't WANT to analyze or "prove"/"disprove" them scientifically. They want only to keep believing the things they believe today.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The BBC: Saint who has lived without food, water for 70 yrs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anatol_zinc" wrote: > > don't know if this guy is genuine > but believe it is possible > > in Autobiography of a Yogi, Paramahansa Yogananda writes about two lady saints who did not take food for decades > one was a Catholic nun whom I assume was investigated and watched by the church > > but most of all I believe Yogananda > > and more recently, Mooji of www.mooji.org > said that he knows personally a whole family, > except for the youngest one, in South Brazil > who are breatherians > > science cannot prove that something like this is not possible, > therefore, anyone who wishes to relive that it is possible > is basically saying this is my hypothesis > and it remains to be proven one way or the other Edg dismissed the story outright as an impossibility or a fraud. Turq, if I followed his line of reasoning, seemed to dismiss it as well. I mention those two as they were about the only people who commented on the story. I also read the account of Yogananda's. I guess you either believe that there are such things as miracles, (or apparant miracles, as if they do exist, there must be other, uncovered laws which apply to them), or you don't. I don't immediately presume this story is a fraud. But, I need to see subtantiation. Just for fun, for those who don't buy into occurances that violate the laws of physics, are the accounts of objects like cardboard getting lodged in steel, during a tornado, also fraud. I am not asking cynically. I really don't know. I suppose I could check it out online. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" rick@ wrote: > > > > The BBC's 2-minute video-report on an Indian saint who has lived with no > > food, no water, for over 70 years: > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8652837.stm > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The BBC: Saint who has lived without food, water for 70 yrs
don't know if this guy is genuine but believe it is possible in Autobiography of a Yogi, Paramahansa Yogananda writes about two lady saints who did not take food for decades one was a Catholic nun whom I assume was investigated and watched by the church but most of all I believe Yogananda and more recently, Mooji of www.mooji.org said that he knows personally a whole family, except for the youngest one, in South Brazil who are breatherians science cannot prove that something like this is not possible, therefore, anyone who wishes to relive that it is possible is basically saying this is my hypothesis and it remains to be proven one way or the other --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > The BBC's 2-minute video-report on an Indian saint who has lived with no > food, no water, for over 70 years: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8652837.stm >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The BBC: Saint who has lived without food, water for 70 yrs
Duveyoung: > > ...bribery is the life blood of India. > > lurk: > Sounds like a pretty harsh, even bigoted judgement... > Maybe what Edg means is Indians as a group give and accept bribes - that's how they make a living. Maybe Edg wants to pass a law deporting all Indians from the U.S. because Indians all live off of bribery, which is illegal in the U.S. These Indians bribers should be forced to wear a sign around their necks with the word 'Indian' stenciled on it. That way, we wouldn't even have to ask them for their drivers license or passport - everyone knows that all Indians give and accept illegal bribes. You know that Edg doesn't want any Indian bribers up in Wisconsin! He hates those Indian bribers!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The BBC: Saint who has lived without food, water for 70 yrs
A couple comments I don't doubt that to be the case. However this doesn't appear to be the classic bribe taking scenario > > > So, Indians are likely incapable of a honest inquiry about this? > > I would go further and say that people who are heavily > invested in the *idea* of miracles are the *last* people > on earth who want to "investigate" one. In many cases > they are the last people who ever want to encounter one > in real life. The way that they maintain their faith in > the miracles is to always keep them in the realm of ideas, > and the phenomena themselves safely in the realm of things > that happen to other people. I sort of did not get the impression in watching the 2 minute , that the people investigating it, were heavily invested in the idea of miracles, or trying to perpetuate the notion that they are real. > As I have pointed out many times, the TMO could "prove" > that something extraordinary (beyond expenditure of pure > muscle effort) was happening in "yogic flying." They > could do this simply and "once and for all" by picking > their best flyers and filming them with slow-motion- > capture cameras while "flying" on a water mattress. If > the "flyer" can get off the surface of the water mattress, > then it's not muscle effort. Done deal. Fait accompli. > > Has there ever been any interest in doing this? Of course > not. If it *didn't* happen, they couldn't keep saying that > something extraordinary was happening in "yogic flying" > beyond simple muscle effort. And such a realization would > be the first chink in their armor of belief. > > My point is simply that rational people (such as your- > self, Lurk, and I'm serious about this) often ascribe > motives to *irrational* people that they do not have, > such as a desire to find out the "real truth" about > things they are heavily invested in, belief-wise. On the surface the people investigating this thing seemed to be wanting to be objective in their investiagation, or certainly trying to present this appearance. But this could just be a facade. I > have not found such a 'tude to be present all that > often. My experience is that they more often react > like JohnR does every time someone suggests that he > prove Jyotish by making one or two *concrete, non- > vague, easily verifiable predictions*. He declines, > every time, for one reason or another. > > He -- and people like him -- will *always* decline > any real opportunity to "prove" the things they believe > to be true. They cannot take the chance that these > things they believe in might be proved untrue. > > Just my opinion. Thanks. I also don't see a direct path for them to profit from it. I mean they are not making a newdiscovery. And I'm not sure how the supposed yogi can easily cash in on it either. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The BBC: Saint who has lived without food, water for 70 yrs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > Lurk, > > > > The guy has not been observed long enough to declare a miracle. > > And, as we know, bribery is the life blood of India. > > > Sounds like a pretty harsh, even bigoted judgement. Based on the Indians I have known and worked with in the business community, I don't think it's harsh. Their first reaction when attempting to get a contract or resolve a problem with the current one was always to offer a bribe to the person they thought could make the outcome happen that they wanted to happen. They were often surprised at the real outcome, as if they had no reason to ever expect a bribe being rejected. > So, Indians are likely incapable of a honest inquiry about this? I would go further and say that people who are heavily invested in the *idea* of miracles are the *last* people on earth who want to "investigate" one. In many cases they are the last people who ever want to encounter one in real life. The way that they maintain their faith in the miracles is to always keep them in the realm of ideas, and the phenomena themselves safely in the realm of things that happen to other people. As I have pointed out many times, the TMO could "prove" that something extraordinary (beyond expenditure of pure muscle effort) was happening in "yogic flying." They could do this simply and "once and for all" by picking their best flyers and filming them with slow-motion- capture cameras while "flying" on a water mattress. If the "flyer" can get off the surface of the water mattress, then it's not muscle effort. Done deal. Fait accompli. Has there ever been any interest in doing this? Of course not. If it *didn't* happen, they couldn't keep saying that something extraordinary was happening in "yogic flying" beyond simple muscle effort. And such a realization would be the first chink in their armor of belief. My point is simply that rational people (such as your- self, Lurk, and I'm serious about this) often ascribe motives to *irrational* people that they do not have, such as a desire to find out the "real truth" about things they are heavily invested in, belief-wise. I have not found such a 'tude to be present all that often. My experience is that they more often react like JohnR does every time someone suggests that he prove Jyotish by making one or two *concrete, non- vague, easily verifiable predictions*. He declines, every time, for one reason or another. He -- and people like him -- will *always* decline any real opportunity to "prove" the things they believe to be true. They cannot take the chance that these things they believe in might be proved untrue. Just my opinion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The BBC: Saint who has lived without food, water for 70 yrs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > Lurk, > > The guy has not been observed long enough to declare a miracle. And, as we know, bribery is the life blood of India. Sounds like a pretty harsh, even bigoted judgement. So, Indians are likely incapable of a honest inquiry about this? The guy could be merely fasting and secretly pissing in a wad of tissue which he hands off to a friend. > > I saw this article yesterday about an American guy, decades ago, that went around showing folks how he could be run completely through by a sword. Turns out he had taken a year and built a shaft thought his body like one has through an earlobe for an earring -- talk about your dedicated scammers! > > Same deal with this yogi -- even two dollars is big time motivation in India. Get international acclaim, no matter how temporary, and the guy's going on a speaking tour for the rest of his life as "the saint." > > Western science is not going to have a second thought about this. That's pretty easy. Just dismiss it as impossible. Goes against what we know about human phsyilogy, (at least so far), so dismiss it. I'm not there yet, for better or worse. > > Edg > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" steve.sundur@ wrote: > > > > I saw this article earlier this week, and didn't get a chance to comment on it. Recently Edg commented that had Fred Lenz really been able to levitate that you would have gobs of people and press, and even the govenrment all over it. > > > > And I said that sometimes the things you expect the press and culture to jumb on, they don't. To me this is an example of this. If this is true, is this not as remarkable a feat as leviatation? I saw this story on a major media web site, on the front page, Tuesday or Wednesday. Is this getting more than a passing interest from the press, and culture. Doesn't seem like it. And then, why not? > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > > > The BBC's 2-minute video-report on an Indian saint who has lived with no > > > food, no water, for over 70 years: > > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8652837.stm > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The BBC: Saint who has lived without food, water for 70 yrs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > > wrote: > > > > > > I saw this article earlier this week, and didn't get a chance > > > to comment on it. Recently Edg commented that had Fred Lenz > > > really been able to levitate that you would have gobs of people > > > and press, and even the govenrment all over it. > > > > > > And I said that sometimes the things you expect the press and > > > culture to jumb on, they don't. To me this is an example of > > > this. If this is true, is this not as remarkable a feat as > > > leviatation? I saw this story on a major media web site, on > > > the front page, Tuesday or Wednesday. Is this getting more > > > than a passing interest from the press, and culture. Doesn't > > > seem like it. And then, why not? > > > > The only people really "into" miracles are those > > who have never seen any. Show them one right in > > front of their eyes and the first thing that most > > of them do is find some way to "rationalize it > > away," so that they "never saw it." > > > > That's exactly what Edg would do, and in fact did, > > with the very story you presented. So would 99% > > of the world's population. > > > > And the 1%? Even worse. People who have spent most > > of their lives chasing miracles do not in my exper- > > ence really want to find them. Much less the general > > public. Finding something that indicates that the > > world does not work the way you think it does is > > not "uplifting," it's *threatening* to most of > > the population. > > There is another group. People so jealous of > other people who *have* experienced such things > when they have not that they devote years of > their lives to stalking them and demonizing > them every chance they get. :-) :-) :-) And then there are the people who are so attached to their experiences that those experiences come to *define* them in their own minds, such that when they're criticized about *anything*, they assume, quite stupidly, that it must be because the critics are "jealous" of them, and that this must be because the critics have never had any similar experiences. "After all," they reason, "if my critics had had such experiences, they'd brag about them all the time as a sign that the experiences make them superior to and much more Important than the rest of the human race, like I do." They also get very confused about *time*, believing that they're so Important that the few minutes or so a day their critics spend criticizing them constitutes their critics' primary occupation. Plus which, they think of themselves as being able to shape reality, erasing from existence hat their critics have said about them by not repeating it, not realizing the critics are entirely capable of doing so themselves: - > And the 1%? Even worse. People who have spent most > of their lives chasing miracles do not in my exper- > ence really want to find them. Much less the general > public. Finding something that indicates that the > world does not work the way you think it does is > not "uplifting," it's *threatening* to most of > the population. But Barry, of course, belongs to neither the 99% nor the 1%. He's *exceptional*, you see. > IMO the only person in "spiritual literature" who > has written accurately about such phenomena is > (whatever one thinks of him) Carlos Castaneda. > He is the only one who nailed the *body reaction* > to witnessing something that "cannot be happening." > One's whole body goes into a kind of shock. Most > in my experience deal with that shock by managing > to forget that they ever had the experience, or > by rationalizing it away. Whereas Barry has dealt with such phenomena *correctly*, not by rationalizing them away, not by forgetting he ever experienced them, but by mentioning them--on this forum, at least--every chance he gets, to make sure we are all reminded as often as possible of how *exceptional* he is. :-) :-) :-) :-) - > > This group must constitute the "gap" between > the 1% and the 99%. Fortunately, the "gap" is > very small, as are the minds of the people > in it. :-) >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The BBC: Saint who has lived without food, water for 70 yrs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > wrote: > > > > I saw this article earlier this week, and didn't get a chance > > to comment on it. Recently Edg commented that had Fred Lenz > > really been able to levitate that you would have gobs of people > > and press, and even the govenrment all over it. > > > > And I said that sometimes the things you expect the press and > > culture to jumb on, they don't. To me this is an example of > > this. If this is true, is this not as remarkable a feat as > > leviatation? I saw this story on a major media web site, on > > the front page, Tuesday or Wednesday. Is this getting more > > than a passing interest from the press, and culture. Doesn't > > seem like it. And then, why not? > > The only people really "into" miracles are those > who have never seen any. Show them one right in > front of their eyes and the first thing that most > of them do is find some way to "rationalize it > away," so that they "never saw it." > > That's exactly what Edg would do, and in fact did, > with the very story you presented. So would 99% > of the world's population. > > And the 1%? Even worse. People who have spent most > of their lives chasing miracles do not in my exper- > ence really want to find them. Much less the general > public. Finding something that indicates that the > world does not work the way you think it does is > not "uplifting," it's *threatening* to most of > the population. There is another group. People so jealous of other people who *have* experienced such things when they have not that they devote years of their lives to stalking them and demonizing them every chance they get. :-) :-) :-) This group must constitute the "gap" between the 1% and the 99%. Fortunately, the "gap" is very small, as are the minds of the people in it. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The BBC: Saint who has lived without food, water for 70 yrs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > The only people really "into" miracles are those > who have never seen any. Show them one right in > front of their eyes and the first thing that most > of them do is find some way to "rationalize it > away," so that they "never saw it." > > That's exactly what Edg would do, and in fact did, > with the very story you presented. So would 99% > of the world's population. > > And the 1%? Even worse. People who have spent most > of their lives chasing miracles do not in my exper- > ence really want to find them. Much less the general > public. Finding something that indicates that the > world does not work the way you think it does is > not "uplifting," it's *threatening* to most of > the population. But Barry, of course, belongs to neither the 99% nor the 1%. He's *exceptional*, you see. > IMO the only person in "spiritual literature" who > has written accurately about such phenomena is > (whatever one thinks of him) Carlos Castaneda. > He is the only one who nailed the *body reaction* > to witnessing something that "cannot be happening." > One's whole body goes into a kind of shock. Most > in my experience deal with that shock by managing > to forget that they ever had the experience, or > by rationalizing it away. Whereas Barry has dealt with such phenomena *correctly*, not by rationalizing them away, not by forgetting he ever experienced them, but by mentioning them--on this forum, at least--every chance he gets, to make sure we are all reminded as often as possible of how *exceptional* he is. :-) :-) :-) :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The BBC: Saint who has lived without food, water for 70 yrs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" wrote: > > I saw this article earlier this week, and didn't get a chance > to comment on it. Recently Edg commented that had Fred Lenz > really been able to levitate that you would have gobs of people > and press, and even the govenrment all over it. > > And I said that sometimes the things you expect the press and > culture to jumb on, they don't. To me this is an example of > this. If this is true, is this not as remarkable a feat as > leviatation? I saw this story on a major media web site, on the front page, > Tuesday or Wednesday. Is this getting more than a > passing interest from the press, and culture. Doesn't seem > like it. And then, why not? The only people really "into" miracles are those who have never seen any. Show them one right in front of their eyes and the first thing that most of them do is find some way to "rationalize it away," so that they "never saw it." That's exactly what Edg would do, and in fact did, with the very story you presented. So would 99% of the world's population. And the 1%? Even worse. People who have spent most of their lives chasing miracles do not in my exper- ence really want to find them. Much less the general public. Finding something that indicates that the world does not work the way you think it does is not "uplifting," it's *threatening* to most of the population. IMO the only person in "spiritual literature" who has written accurately about such phenomena is (whatever one thinks of him) Carlos Castaneda. He is the only one who nailed the *body reaction* to witnessing something that "cannot be happening." One's whole body goes into a kind of shock. Most in my experience deal with that shock by managing to forget that they ever had the experience, or by rationalizing it away.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The BBC: Saint who has lived without food, water for 70 yrs
Lurk, The guy has not been observed long enough to declare a miracle. And, as we know, bribery is the life blood of India. The guy could be merely fasting and secretly pissing in a wad of tissue which he hands off to a friend. I saw this article yesterday about an American guy, decades ago, that went around showing folks how he could be run completely through by a sword. Turns out he had taken a year and built a shaft thought his body like one has through an earlobe for an earring -- talk about your dedicated scammers! Same deal with this yogi -- even two dollars is big time motivation in India. Get international acclaim, no matter how temporary, and the guy's going on a speaking tour for the rest of his life as "the saint." Western science is not going to have a second thought about this. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" wrote: > > I saw this article earlier this week, and didn't get a chance to comment on > it. Recently Edg commented that had Fred Lenz really been able to levitate > that you would have gobs of people and press, and even the govenrment all > over it. > > And I said that sometimes the things you expect the press and culture to jumb > on, they don't. To me this is an example of this. If this is true, is this > not as remarkable a feat as leviatation? I saw this story on a major media > web site, on the front page, Tuesday or Wednesday. Is this getting more than > a passing interest from the press, and culture. Doesn't seem like it. And > then, why not? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > The BBC's 2-minute video-report on an Indian saint who has lived with no > > food, no water, for over 70 years: > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8652837.stm > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The BBC: Saint who has lived without food, water for 70 yrs
I saw this article earlier this week, and didn't get a chance to comment on it. Recently Edg commented that had Fred Lenz really been able to levitate that you would have gobs of people and press, and even the govenrment all over it. And I said that sometimes the things you expect the press and culture to jumb on, they don't. To me this is an example of this. If this is true, is this not as remarkable a feat as leviatation? I saw this story on a major media web site, on the front page, Tuesday or Wednesday. Is this getting more than a passing interest from the press, and culture. Doesn't seem like it. And then, why not? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > The BBC's 2-minute video-report on an Indian saint who has lived with no > food, no water, for over 70 years: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8652837.stm >
