[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Science Cycle

2010-04-21 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:



 * In my impressionable youth, an Indian guy wearing a
 dress tells me that mediation is the highest path



Classical case of mixing identities, you meant this politician, no ?


  [Dalai lama] 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2008/mar/18/tibet.china?picture\
=333160110  [Dalai lama] 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2008/mar/18/tibet.china?picture\
=333160119

6 [Dalai Lama: The Dalai Lama greets supporters in Washington] 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2008/mar/18/tibet.china?picture\
=360242307

  [Dalai Lama: The Dalai Lama at Nova Southeastern University] 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2008/mar/18/tibet.china?picture\
=360242323
  [Dalai Lama: The Dalai Lama delivers his annual address from exile in
India] 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2008/mar/18/tibet.china?picture\
=333160104




[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Science Cycle

2010-04-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 Here's the way it looks to me:
 
 * In my impressionable youth, an Indian guy wearing a 
 dress

And here's the way it looks to me: The phrase wearing a
dress and its insistent repetition is a dead giveaway that
there's at least as much bias and elitism in this account
as in what it's criticizing, at least as much disregard for
even a pretense of objectivity, at least as much of a
desire to be seen as SPECIAL and a better person than
the dude to whom it's directed.


 tells me that mediation is the highest path in
 the universe, and that learning and practicing it every
 day will make me not only a better person, but really,
 really, really SPECIAL. 
 
 * I am so naive and so wanting to be SPECIAL that I choose 
 to believe him.
 
 * Later, to sell this same idea to more people, the Indian
 guy wearing a dress talks some of his students (who have no
 bias or interest in proving themselves SPECIAL, of course)
 into doing shoddy research to prove his claims that 
 meditation will make everyone a better person and really, 
 really, really SPECIAL. 
 
 * I read this research, look at all the pretty charts that
 I don't understand, and renew my belief in what the Indian
 guy wearing a dress told me. I call this process Science.
 
 * Later, the same Indian guy wearing a dress tells me that
 not only am *I* a better person and really, really, really
 SPECIAL because *I* practice this meditation that he sells,
 I am *SO* SPECIAL that me sitting on my butt practicing it
 (or bouncing on that same butt) affects the *whole world*. 
 I am, in fact *SO* SPECIAL that I control the weather, 
 whether there are wars or peace, and the future of the 
 entire planet.
 
 * I am so naive and so wanting to be SPECIAL that I choose 
 to believe him, again.
 
 * Later, pretty much the same completely unbiased students 
 of the Indian guy wearing a dress are coerced into doing 
 *more* shoddy research to prove this second set of claims 
 true. 
 
 * No one in the entire field of science believes this, but 
 I do, because *again* I don't have to change the beliefs I
 formed in my impressionable youth. Again, I call this 
 process Science.
 
 Am I wrong about this, Doug? This is what your use of the
 word Science looks like to me...




[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Science Cycle

2010-04-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Here's the way it looks to me:
  
  * In my impressionable youth, an Indian guy wearing a 
  dress
 
 And here's the way it looks to me: The phrase wearing a
 dress and its insistent repetition is a dead giveaway that
 there's at least as much bias and elitism in this account
 as in what it's criticizing, at least as much disregard for
 even a pretense of objectivity...

LOL.

Isn't it fascinating to see what pushes TBs' buttons?  :-)

My post was directed to Doug/Buck. I wished to find a
phrase to describe Maharishi that had some of the same
tone or feel or respectfulness as the way he uses 
the phrase non-meditators.

When he says non-meditators, it feels similar to the 
way that some people use the word Nigger or Kike. 

I thought he deserved to see what it felt like. Guess
THE CORRECTOR deserved to feel it, too.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Science Cycle

2010-04-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Here's the way it looks to me:
   
   * In my impressionable youth, an Indian guy wearing a 
   dress
  
  And here's the way it looks to me: The phrase wearing a
  dress and its insistent repetition is a dead giveaway that
  there's at least as much bias and elitism in this account
  as in what it's criticizing, at least as much disregard for
  even a pretense of objectivity...
 
 LOL.
 
 Isn't it fascinating to see what pushes TBs' buttons?  :-)

More fascinating to see what Barry thinks is a TB button.
Sorry, but I find it just as elitist and biased when
someone refers to the pope as wearing a dress (even
though the implication in the pope's case is most likely
closer to the reality).

 My post was directed to Doug/Buck. I wished to find a
 phrase to describe Maharishi that had some of the same
 tone or feel or respectfulness as the way he uses 
 the phrase non-meditators.

The phrase non-meditators, however, reflects reality.
Wearing a dress doesn't, even absent the sexist/
homophobic coloration.

Hint: You could have made the same point you pretend
you were making by using the phrase wearing a white
silk dhoti instead.

 When he says non-meditators, it feels similar to the 
 way that some people use the word Nigger or Kike. 

Sounds like you had your buttons pushed good and proper.

 I thought he deserved to see what it felt like. Guess
 THE CORRECTOR deserved to feel it, too.

Uh-huh. Except that Buck is perfectly straightforward
about his elitism, such as it may be, whereas you're
a far worse elitist than he is but feign to the 
contrary--utterly oblivious to the inane self-
referentiality of trying to make it seem as though
you're a better person because you supposedly aren't
an elitist.