[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Science Cycle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: * In my impressionable youth, an Indian guy wearing a dress tells me that mediation is the highest path Classical case of mixing identities, you meant this politician, no ? [Dalai lama] http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2008/mar/18/tibet.china?picture\ =333160110 [Dalai lama] http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2008/mar/18/tibet.china?picture\ =333160119 6 [Dalai Lama: The Dalai Lama greets supporters in Washington] http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2008/mar/18/tibet.china?picture\ =360242307 [Dalai Lama: The Dalai Lama at Nova Southeastern University] http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2008/mar/18/tibet.china?picture\ =360242323 [Dalai Lama: The Dalai Lama delivers his annual address from exile in India] http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2008/mar/18/tibet.china?picture\ =333160104
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Science Cycle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Here's the way it looks to me: * In my impressionable youth, an Indian guy wearing a dress And here's the way it looks to me: The phrase wearing a dress and its insistent repetition is a dead giveaway that there's at least as much bias and elitism in this account as in what it's criticizing, at least as much disregard for even a pretense of objectivity, at least as much of a desire to be seen as SPECIAL and a better person than the dude to whom it's directed. tells me that mediation is the highest path in the universe, and that learning and practicing it every day will make me not only a better person, but really, really, really SPECIAL. * I am so naive and so wanting to be SPECIAL that I choose to believe him. * Later, to sell this same idea to more people, the Indian guy wearing a dress talks some of his students (who have no bias or interest in proving themselves SPECIAL, of course) into doing shoddy research to prove his claims that meditation will make everyone a better person and really, really, really SPECIAL. * I read this research, look at all the pretty charts that I don't understand, and renew my belief in what the Indian guy wearing a dress told me. I call this process Science. * Later, the same Indian guy wearing a dress tells me that not only am *I* a better person and really, really, really SPECIAL because *I* practice this meditation that he sells, I am *SO* SPECIAL that me sitting on my butt practicing it (or bouncing on that same butt) affects the *whole world*. I am, in fact *SO* SPECIAL that I control the weather, whether there are wars or peace, and the future of the entire planet. * I am so naive and so wanting to be SPECIAL that I choose to believe him, again. * Later, pretty much the same completely unbiased students of the Indian guy wearing a dress are coerced into doing *more* shoddy research to prove this second set of claims true. * No one in the entire field of science believes this, but I do, because *again* I don't have to change the beliefs I formed in my impressionable youth. Again, I call this process Science. Am I wrong about this, Doug? This is what your use of the word Science looks like to me...
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Science Cycle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Here's the way it looks to me: * In my impressionable youth, an Indian guy wearing a dress And here's the way it looks to me: The phrase wearing a dress and its insistent repetition is a dead giveaway that there's at least as much bias and elitism in this account as in what it's criticizing, at least as much disregard for even a pretense of objectivity... LOL. Isn't it fascinating to see what pushes TBs' buttons? :-) My post was directed to Doug/Buck. I wished to find a phrase to describe Maharishi that had some of the same tone or feel or respectfulness as the way he uses the phrase non-meditators. When he says non-meditators, it feels similar to the way that some people use the word Nigger or Kike. I thought he deserved to see what it felt like. Guess THE CORRECTOR deserved to feel it, too.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Science Cycle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Here's the way it looks to me: * In my impressionable youth, an Indian guy wearing a dress And here's the way it looks to me: The phrase wearing a dress and its insistent repetition is a dead giveaway that there's at least as much bias and elitism in this account as in what it's criticizing, at least as much disregard for even a pretense of objectivity... LOL. Isn't it fascinating to see what pushes TBs' buttons? :-) More fascinating to see what Barry thinks is a TB button. Sorry, but I find it just as elitist and biased when someone refers to the pope as wearing a dress (even though the implication in the pope's case is most likely closer to the reality). My post was directed to Doug/Buck. I wished to find a phrase to describe Maharishi that had some of the same tone or feel or respectfulness as the way he uses the phrase non-meditators. The phrase non-meditators, however, reflects reality. Wearing a dress doesn't, even absent the sexist/ homophobic coloration. Hint: You could have made the same point you pretend you were making by using the phrase wearing a white silk dhoti instead. When he says non-meditators, it feels similar to the way that some people use the word Nigger or Kike. Sounds like you had your buttons pushed good and proper. I thought he deserved to see what it felt like. Guess THE CORRECTOR deserved to feel it, too. Uh-huh. Except that Buck is perfectly straightforward about his elitism, such as it may be, whereas you're a far worse elitist than he is but feign to the contrary--utterly oblivious to the inane self- referentiality of trying to make it seem as though you're a better person because you supposedly aren't an elitist.