[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

2010-02-07 Thread ShempMcGurk


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:

 
 
 This is simple and basic. 
 
 Part of the scientific realities of AGW is that the consequences include the 
 abnormal and extreme weather fluctuations that we see as the trend of 
 increasing global temperatures continues upward.
 
 



...but there ARE NO extreme weather fluctuations.  

It was all made up.

Why are you such a denier?






 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
 
  
  If you want to play the anecdotal evidence game, take a gander at the
  following.
  
  Look, Bongo, nobody believes the global warming propaganda anymore:
  temperature statistics fudged, lying about Himalayan glaciers melting,
  bullshitting about sea levels.  The phoney evidence has been exposed for
  all to see.
  
  You should be celebrating the fact that millions won't die, John. 
  Instead you are miserable about it.
  
  Why is that?
  
  
  http://www.weather.com/newscenter/stormwatch/
  http://www.weather.com/newscenter/stormwatch/
  Storm WatchHistoric snowstorm winds down later today Chris
  Dolce, Lead Meteorologist, The Weather Channel  Feb. 6, 2010 12:05 pm ET
  Snow, heavy in some locations, continues to fall from West Virginia and
  southwest Pennsylvania eastward to the Mid-Atlantic Coast. Look for the
  snow to wind down from west to east late this afternoon and early
  evening putting the final touches on this historic event.
  
  Widespread totals of a foot to over two feet have been reported in
  portions of southern Pennsylvania, West Virginia, northern Virginia,
  Maryland, Delaware, southern New Jersey and the District of Columbia.
  Localized amounts have topped 30 inches.
  
  As the low pushes off the coast it will continue to strengthen which
  will result in very strong winds near and along the coast. Gusts of 40
  to 50 miles per hour will be likely along the coasts from the Tidewater
  of Virginia north to the Jersey shore.
  
  Snow and gusty winds will contribute to low visibilities and
  near-blizzard conditions in some areas.
  
  The winds will also serve up high surf which will lead to beach erosion
  and areas of coastal flooding from Atlantic City southward to the
  Carolina coast.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

2010-02-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
  
  This is simple and basic. 
  
  Part of the scientific realities of AGW is that the
  consequences include the abnormal and extreme weather 
  fluctuations that we see as the trend of increasing
  global temperatures continues upward.
 
 ...but there ARE NO extreme weather fluctuations.  
 
 It was all made up.

He's referring to, among other examples, the record-setting
storm that just hit Washington--you know, the one you cited
in the post he was responding to.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

2010-02-07 Thread ShempMcGurk


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
   
   This is simple and basic. 
   
   Part of the scientific realities of AGW is that the
   consequences include the abnormal and extreme weather 
   fluctuations that we see as the trend of increasing
   global temperatures continues upward.
  
  ...but there ARE NO extreme weather fluctuations.  
  
  It was all made up.
 
 He's referring to, among other examples, the record-setting
 storm that just hit Washington--you know, the one you cited
 in the post he was responding to.


That was one extreme weather fluctuation.

Are there MORE extreme weather fluctuations since the advent of global warming 
compared to before the advent of global warming or is there less or about the 
same?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

2010-02-07 Thread do.rflex

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@
wrote:
   
This is simple and basic.
   
Part of the scientific realities of AGW is that the
consequences include the abnormal and extreme weather
fluctuations that we see as the trend of increasing
global temperatures continues upward.
  
   ...but there ARE NO extreme weather fluctuations.
  
   It was all made up.
 
  He's referring to, among other examples, the record-setting
  storm that just hit Washington--you know, the one you cited
  in the post he was responding to.
 

 That was one extreme weather fluctuation.

 Are there MORE extreme weather fluctuations since the advent of global
warming compared to before the advent of global warming or is there less
or about the same?


Global warming may be responsible in part for some trends in natural
disasters such as extreme weather
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather .

  [File:Trends in natural disasters.jpg] 
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Trends_in_natural_di\
sasters.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trends_in_natural_disasters.jpg


Extreme weather includes weather http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather 
phenomena that are at the extremes of the historical distribution,
especially severe or unseasonal weather
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_weather .[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather#cite_note-0
The World Meteorological Organization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Meteorological_Organization [2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather#cite_note-1  and the U.S.
Environmental Protection Agency
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Environmental_Protection_Agency [3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather#cite_note-2  have linked
increasing extreme weather events to global warming
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming , as have Hoyos et al.
(2006), writing that the increasing number of category 4 and 5
hurricanes is directly linked to increasing temperatures.[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather#cite_note-3

Similarly, Kerry Emmanuel in Nature writes that hurricane power
dissipation is highly correlated with temperature, reflecting global
warming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming . Hurricane
modeling has produced similar results, finding that hurricanes,
simulated under warmer, high CO2 conditions, are more intense than under
present-day conditions.

Thomas Knutson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Knutson  and Robert
E. Tuleya of the NOAA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOAA greenhouse gas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas  may lead to increasing
occurrence of highly destructive category-5 storms.[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather#cite_note-4  Vecchi and
Soden find that wind shear http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_shear ,
the increase of which acts to inhibit tropical cyclones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_cyclones , also changes in
model-projections of global warming. There are projected increases of
wind shear http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_shear  in the tropical
Atlantic and East Pacific associated with the deceleration of the Walker
circulation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walker_circulation , as well
as decreases of wind shear in the western and central Pacific.[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather#cite_note-5

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather

Extreme Weather Fits Global Warming Pattern 
Drought, Flooding, Heavy Storms May Become More Frequent and Extreme as
Climate ChangesIt seems to make no sense: Record drought, right
next to downpours. Just this week, for example, swaths of Arizona have
been on fire and there have been flash floods in Texas.  [flood] 
(ABCNEWS.com)


But to scientists, it does make sense.



The simple reason is that the air is getting warmer, and warmer air
holds more moisture -- so when the warmer winds sweep across wet
farmlands, they suck up more moisture drying the farms out.



And when the winds finally dump that moisture out as rain, the downpours
are much heavier.



Suddenly you've got a gully-washer, says Kevin Trenberth, a scientist
with the National Center for Atmospheric Research, part of a research
collaboration among universities. You've got too much water. And then
at other times you've got drier conditions, potential for drought --
associated with global warming because of this increase of water vapor
in the atmosphere.



That can translate into more rain or more snow -- as was the case this
winter in the western mountains.



Normally, more snow is good news for farms and towns below the
mountains, because three-fourths of the West's water comes from snow
pack.



But a warming trend over the past 30 years means snows often melt out

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

2010-02-07 Thread ShempMcGurk
The more interesting chart is the inner one because it shows relatively little 
or no significant difference in cyclones and earthquakes.

Floods, of course, will only be of concern in populated areas...and populated 
areas increased with the increase of world population.

Also interesting is the explanation for what is included in the definition of 
disasters.  A lot of that stuff can be ascribed to other factors than global 
temperatures.

Anyway, none of these figures have any meaning whatsoever because:

1)it only goes back to 1900;

2) we don't know the breakdown of all the disasters except for the ones in the 
inner box; and

3) no one trusts ANY figures anymore from the fraudulent pro-global warming 
crowd.

Everything must be recalculated because all data is tainted.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@
 wrote:

 This is simple and basic.

 Part of the scientific realities of AGW is that the
 consequences include the abnormal and extreme weather
 fluctuations that we see as the trend of increasing
 global temperatures continues upward.
   
...but there ARE NO extreme weather fluctuations.
   
It was all made up.
  
   He's referring to, among other examples, the record-setting
   storm that just hit Washington--you know, the one you cited
   in the post he was responding to.
  
 
  That was one extreme weather fluctuation.
 
  Are there MORE extreme weather fluctuations since the advent of global
 warming compared to before the advent of global warming or is there less
 or about the same?
 
 
 Global warming may be responsible in part for some trends in natural
 disasters such as extreme weather
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather .
 
   [File:Trends in natural disasters.jpg] 
 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Trends_in_natural_di\
 sasters.jpg
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trends_in_natural_disasters.jpg
 
 
 Extreme weather includes weather http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather 
 phenomena that are at the extremes of the historical distribution,
 especially severe or unseasonal weather
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_weather .[1]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather#cite_note-0
 The World Meteorological Organization
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Meteorological_Organization [2]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather#cite_note-1  and the U.S.
 Environmental Protection Agency
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Environmental_Protection_Agency [3]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather#cite_note-2  have linked
 increasing extreme weather events to global warming
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming , as have Hoyos et al.
 (2006), writing that the increasing number of category 4 and 5
 hurricanes is directly linked to increasing temperatures.[4]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather#cite_note-3
 
 Similarly, Kerry Emmanuel in Nature writes that hurricane power
 dissipation is highly correlated with temperature, reflecting global
 warming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming . Hurricane
 modeling has produced similar results, finding that hurricanes,
 simulated under warmer, high CO2 conditions, are more intense than under
 present-day conditions.
 
 Thomas Knutson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Knutson  and Robert
 E. Tuleya of the NOAA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOAA greenhouse gas
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas  may lead to increasing
 occurrence of highly destructive category-5 storms.[5]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather#cite_note-4  Vecchi and
 Soden find that wind shear http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_shear ,
 the increase of which acts to inhibit tropical cyclones
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_cyclones , also changes in
 model-projections of global warming. There are projected increases of
 wind shear http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_shear  in the tropical
 Atlantic and East Pacific associated with the deceleration of the Walker
 circulation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walker_circulation , as well
 as decreases of wind shear in the western and central Pacific.[6]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather#cite_note-5
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather
 
 Extreme Weather Fits Global Warming Pattern 
 Drought, Flooding, Heavy Storms May Become More Frequent and Extreme as
 Climate ChangesIt seems to make no sense: Record drought, right
 next to downpours. Just this week, for example, swaths of Arizona have
 been on fire and there have been flash floods in Texas.  [flood] 
 (ABCNEWS.com)
 
 
 But to scientists, it does make sense.
 
 
 
 The simple reason is that 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

2010-02-07 Thread do.rflex


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 The more interesting chart is the inner one because it shows relatively 
 little or no significant difference in cyclones and earthquakes.
 
 Floods, of course, will only be of concern in populated areas...and populated 
 areas increased with the increase of world population.
 
 Also interesting is the explanation for what is included in the definition of 
 disasters.  A lot of that stuff can be ascribed to other factors than global 
 temperatures.
 
 Anyway, none of these figures have any meaning whatsoever because:
 
 1)it only goes back to 1900;
 
 2) we don't know the breakdown of all the disasters except for the ones in 
 the inner box; and
 
 3) no one trusts ANY figures anymore from the fraudulent pro-global warming 
 crowd.
 
 Everything must be recalculated because all data is tainted.
 


The evidence for AGW is undeniable on the basis of thousands of peer-reviewed 
research papers and simple human observation. 

Like I've suggested before, either you're a willfully blind supporter of the 
profiteer corporate polluters, you're stupid or you're trolling. My bet is that 
it's a little of all three.



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@
  wrote:
 
  This is simple and basic.
 
  Part of the scientific realities of AGW is that the
  consequences include the abnormal and extreme weather
  fluctuations that we see as the trend of increasing
  global temperatures continues upward.

 ...but there ARE NO extreme weather fluctuations.

 It was all made up.
   
He's referring to, among other examples, the record-setting
storm that just hit Washington--you know, the one you cited
in the post he was responding to.
   
  
   That was one extreme weather fluctuation.
  
   Are there MORE extreme weather fluctuations since the advent of global
  warming compared to before the advent of global warming or is there less
  or about the same?
  
  
  Global warming may be responsible in part for some trends in natural
  disasters such as extreme weather
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather .
  
[File:Trends in natural disasters.jpg] 
  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Trends_in_natural_di\
  sasters.jpg
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trends_in_natural_disasters.jpg
  
  
  Extreme weather includes weather http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather 
  phenomena that are at the extremes of the historical distribution,
  especially severe or unseasonal weather
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_weather .[1]
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather#cite_note-0
  The World Meteorological Organization
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Meteorological_Organization [2]
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather#cite_note-1  and the U.S.
  Environmental Protection Agency
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Environmental_Protection_Agency [3]
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather#cite_note-2  have linked
  increasing extreme weather events to global warming
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming , as have Hoyos et al.
  (2006), writing that the increasing number of category 4 and 5
  hurricanes is directly linked to increasing temperatures.[4]
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather#cite_note-3
  
  Similarly, Kerry Emmanuel in Nature writes that hurricane power
  dissipation is highly correlated with temperature, reflecting global
  warming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming . Hurricane
  modeling has produced similar results, finding that hurricanes,
  simulated under warmer, high CO2 conditions, are more intense than under
  present-day conditions.
  
  Thomas Knutson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Knutson  and Robert
  E. Tuleya of the NOAA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOAA greenhouse gas
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas  may lead to increasing
  occurrence of highly destructive category-5 storms.[5]
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather#cite_note-4  Vecchi and
  Soden find that wind shear http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_shear ,
  the increase of which acts to inhibit tropical cyclones
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_cyclones , also changes in
  model-projections of global warming. There are projected increases of
  wind shear http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_shear  in the tropical
  Atlantic and East Pacific associated with the deceleration of the Walker
  circulation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walker_circulation , as well
  as decreases of wind shear in the western and central Pacific.[6]
  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

2010-02-07 Thread anatol_zinc











[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

2010-02-06 Thread ShempMcGurk

If you want to play the anecdotal evidence game, take a gander at the
following.

Look, Bongo, nobody believes the global warming propaganda anymore:
temperature statistics fudged, lying about Himalayan glaciers melting,
bullshitting about sea levels.  The phoney evidence has been exposed for
all to see.

You should be celebrating the fact that millions won't die, John. 
Instead you are miserable about it.

Why is that?


http://www.weather.com/newscenter/stormwatch/
http://www.weather.com/newscenter/stormwatch/
Storm WatchHistoric snowstorm winds down later today Chris
Dolce, Lead Meteorologist, The Weather Channel  Feb. 6, 2010 12:05 pm ET
Snow, heavy in some locations, continues to fall from West Virginia and
southwest Pennsylvania eastward to the Mid-Atlantic Coast. Look for the
snow to wind down from west to east late this afternoon and early
evening putting the final touches on this historic event.

Widespread totals of a foot to over two feet have been reported in
portions of southern Pennsylvania, West Virginia, northern Virginia,
Maryland, Delaware, southern New Jersey and the District of Columbia.
Localized amounts have topped 30 inches.

As the low pushes off the coast it will continue to strengthen which
will result in very strong winds near and along the coast. Gusts of 40
to 50 miles per hour will be likely along the coasts from the Tidewater
of Virginia north to the Jersey shore.

Snow and gusty winds will contribute to low visibilities and
near-blizzard conditions in some areas.

The winds will also serve up high surf which will lead to beach erosion
and areas of coastal flooding from Atlantic City southward to the
Carolina coast.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

2010-02-06 Thread BillyG

Have those renegade icebergs reached Australia yet!!  Ha, ha 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 
 If you want to play the anecdotal evidence game, take a gander at the
 following.
 
 Look, Bongo, nobody believes the global warming propaganda anymore:
 temperature statistics fudged, lying about Himalayan glaciers melting,
 bullshitting about sea levels.  The phoney evidence has been exposed for
 all to see.
 
 You should be celebrating the fact that millions won't die, John. 
 Instead you are miserable about it.
 
 Why is that?
 
 
 http://www.weather.com/newscenter/stormwatch/
 http://www.weather.com/newscenter/stormwatch/
 Storm WatchHistoric snowstorm winds down later today Chris
 Dolce, Lead Meteorologist, The Weather Channel  Feb. 6, 2010 12:05 pm ET
 Snow, heavy in some locations, continues to fall from West Virginia and
 southwest Pennsylvania eastward to the Mid-Atlantic Coast. Look for the
 snow to wind down from west to east late this afternoon and early
 evening putting the final touches on this historic event.
 
 Widespread totals of a foot to over two feet have been reported in
 portions of southern Pennsylvania, West Virginia, northern Virginia,
 Maryland, Delaware, southern New Jersey and the District of Columbia.
 Localized amounts have topped 30 inches.
 
 As the low pushes off the coast it will continue to strengthen which
 will result in very strong winds near and along the coast. Gusts of 40
 to 50 miles per hour will be likely along the coasts from the Tidewater
 of Virginia north to the Jersey shore.
 
 Snow and gusty winds will contribute to low visibilities and
 near-blizzard conditions in some areas.
 
 The winds will also serve up high surf which will lead to beach erosion
 and areas of coastal flooding from Atlantic City southward to the
 Carolina coast.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

2010-02-06 Thread do.rflex


This is simple and basic. 

Part of the scientific realities of AGW is that the consequences include the 
abnormal and extreme weather fluctuations that we see as the trend of 
increasing global temperatures continues upward.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 
 If you want to play the anecdotal evidence game, take a gander at the
 following.
 
 Look, Bongo, nobody believes the global warming propaganda anymore:
 temperature statistics fudged, lying about Himalayan glaciers melting,
 bullshitting about sea levels.  The phoney evidence has been exposed for
 all to see.
 
 You should be celebrating the fact that millions won't die, John. 
 Instead you are miserable about it.
 
 Why is that?
 
 
 http://www.weather.com/newscenter/stormwatch/
 http://www.weather.com/newscenter/stormwatch/
 Storm WatchHistoric snowstorm winds down later today Chris
 Dolce, Lead Meteorologist, The Weather Channel  Feb. 6, 2010 12:05 pm ET
 Snow, heavy in some locations, continues to fall from West Virginia and
 southwest Pennsylvania eastward to the Mid-Atlantic Coast. Look for the
 snow to wind down from west to east late this afternoon and early
 evening putting the final touches on this historic event.
 
 Widespread totals of a foot to over two feet have been reported in
 portions of southern Pennsylvania, West Virginia, northern Virginia,
 Maryland, Delaware, southern New Jersey and the District of Columbia.
 Localized amounts have topped 30 inches.
 
 As the low pushes off the coast it will continue to strengthen which
 will result in very strong winds near and along the coast. Gusts of 40
 to 50 miles per hour will be likely along the coasts from the Tidewater
 of Virginia north to the Jersey shore.
 
 Snow and gusty winds will contribute to low visibilities and
 near-blizzard conditions in some areas.
 
 The winds will also serve up high surf which will lead to beach erosion
 and areas of coastal flooding from Atlantic City southward to the
 Carolina coast.