[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir shakti
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes,is encouraging testimony. Om, do any of these apostles have that kind of spiritual juice for giving dharshan? Diksha? Shakti Pot? Word has it that Shakti Pot will be made available for those who want it, under the Medicinal Marijuana laws. It will be part of the new Maharishi Roll Your Own Enlightenment program, also known as Bongs For Bliss.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
$11,500oh my! I feel your pain, brother. --- gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I blew $11,500 on a yagya that did nothing and was either not performed or was performed in the most cursory manner possible, if that helps. --- Samuel Gravina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Posted by: gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] fflmod Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:02 am (PST) I was part of the Cambridge center and knew John. It was powerful sitting next to him in the flying wall at the times I did that. I could feel the intense energy. I also knew Tony. I also knew Sam Gravina. Hi Gullible Fool. I think I remember you. Were you the guy who naively believed stuff that turned out to not be true? Sam Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
But it is the pain (and glory) of fullness moving into emptiness. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $11,500oh my! I feel your pain, brother. --- gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I blew $11,500 on a yagya that did nothing and was either not performed or was performed in the most cursory manner possible, if that helps. --- Samuel Gravina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Posted by: gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] fflmod Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:02 am (PST) I was part of the Cambridge center and knew John. It was powerful sitting next to him in the flying wall at the times I did that. I could feel the intense energy. I also knew Tony. I also knew Sam Gravina. Hi Gullible Fool. I think I remember you. Were you the guy who naively believed stuff that turned out to not be true? Sam Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
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That $11,500 is in 1991 money, too. --- Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $11,500oh my! I feel your pain, brother. --- gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I blew $11,500 on a yagya that did nothing and was either not performed or was performed in the most cursory manner possible, if that helps. --- Samuel Gravina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Posted by: gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] fflmod Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:02 am (PST) I was part of the Cambridge center and knew John. It was powerful sitting next to him in the flying wall at the times I did that. I could feel the intense energy. I also knew Tony. I also knew Sam Gravina. Hi Gullible Fool. I think I remember you. Were you the guy who naively believed stuff that turned out to not be true? Sam Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
On Feb 19, 2008, at 8:06 PM, gullible fool wrote: I blew $11,500 on a yagya that did nothing and was either not performed or was performed in the most cursory manner possible, if that helps. JOOC, what did they tell you would happen, gull? Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool fflmod@ wrote: That $11,500 is in 1991 money, too. Thats a long time ago, and you are still here doing well. So how can you be so sure it had no effect... Exactly. I think Gull needs to get checked. :)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 19, 2008, at 8:06 PM, gullible fool wrote: I blew $11,500 on a yagya that did nothing and was either not performed or was performed in the most cursory manner possible, if that helps. JOOC, what did they tell you would happen, gull? Undoubtedly, that negative influences would decrease. If Gull had one the lottery the next day, it would be highly unscientific and anti-statistical to claim causality -- despite th TMO and MTT's grave propensity to do so. And it it would be highly unscientific and anti-statistical to claim the lack of causality -- that is demonstrating that no causal link exists (not found is another, simpler story). Not that the two conclusions have equal probability of being correct. The no causality claim has a lot more weight behind it. But Gull, or anyone, cannot disprove that the yagya decreased negative influences as promised.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That $11,500 is in 1991 money, too. Thats a long time ago, and you are still here doing well. So how can you be so sure it had no effect...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
On Feb 20, 2008, at 9:23 AM, new.morning wrote: On Feb 19, 2008, at 8:06 PM, gullible fool wrote: I blew $11,500 on a yagya that did nothing and was either not performed or was performed in the most cursory manner possible, if that helps. JOOC, what did they tell you would happen, gull? Undoubtedly, that negative influences would decrease. Yep. I wonder if they told him that he'd be less attached to material wealth. At least it would show they had a sense of humor. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
He would become a great leader of men (on the internet, is the part they left out). - Original Message - From: Sal Sunshine To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir On Feb 19, 2008, at 8:06 PM, gullible fool wrote: I blew $11,500 on a yagya that did nothing and was either not performed or was performed in the most cursory manner possible, if that helps. JOOC, what did they tell you would happen, gull? Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
On Feb 20, 2008, at 11:00 AM, Kirk wrote: He would become a great leader of men (on the internet, is the part they left out). Desire fulfilled! What about women? What are we, chopped liver? Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
Maybe sometimes but it's okay. I still like eating you. - Original Message - From: Sal Sunshine To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir On Feb 20, 2008, at 11:00 AM, Kirk wrote: He would become a great leader of men (on the internet, is the part they left out). Desire fulfilled! What about women? What are we, chopped liver? Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 20, 2008, at 11:00 AM, Kirk wrote: He would become a great leader of men (on the internet, is the part they left out). Desire fulfilled! What about women? What are we, chopped liver? Sal Well, technically, chopped Brahman.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- Samuel Gravina sgravina@ wrote: I also knew John Hagelen back then. He too was a very regular guy. He had that aristocratic accent back then but he didn't talk like a vocabulary quiz. I once asked him why he talked so fancy for the movement and he said that that was what Maharishi liked to hear. I know John quite well from years prior to and his first couple of years in TM. We went to school together and were good friends. I agree with Sam. John is a complete regular guy, far from some bliss ninny mood-maker. He's very smart and loves verbal puns. John is the complete opposite of Bevan! Maybe. But he is a bit of a nutcase conspiracty theorist. There was that incident reported in the Fairfield Ledger in which he intimated that the CIA had infiltrated the Movement or something like that. Pretty weird, cult-like stuff. Agreed. The CIA is a strange american cult blowing up airplanes and sending hitmen after a man of peace. Reminds me of what happened 2000 years ago. But they could never get Maharishi. Not that they didn't try. __ __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
Here in my hometown lives (lived?) a guy from India, a guy, who has a very common Muslim Christian [huh?] name. For some reason he doesn't seem to like using his forename, so he goes by his family name, hwich happens to be 'Nadir'...
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
I was part of the Cambridge center and knew John. It was powerful sitting next to him in the flying wall at the times I did that. I could feel the intense energy. I also knew Tony. I also knew Sam Gravina. --- Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Samuel Gravina Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:14 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir I also knew John Hagelen back then. He too was a very regular guy. I initiated John Hagelin. I should share some stories. And after Rick was gone from Connecticut John used to come to MY advanced lectures ;-) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1286 - Release Date: 2/18/2008 6:49 PM Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was part of the Cambridge center and knew John. It was powerful sitting next to him in the flying wall at the times I did that. I could feel the intense energy. I also knew Tony. I also knew Sam Gravina. Hence your handle here, right?
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Samuel Gravina Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:14 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir I also knew John Hagelen back then. He too was a very regular guy. I initiated John Hagelin. I should share some stories. And after Rick was gone from Connecticut John used to come to MY advanced lectures ;-) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1286 - Release Date: 2/18/2008 6:49 PM Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
Posted by: gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] fflmod Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:02 am (PST) I was part of the Cambridge center and knew John. It was powerful sitting next to him in the flying wall at the times I did that. I could feel the intense energy. I also knew Tony. I also knew Sam Gravina. Hi Gullible Fool. I think I remember you. Were you the guy who naively believed stuff that turned out to not be true? Sam
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
I blew $11,500 on a yagya that did nothing and was either not performed or was performed in the most cursory manner possible, if that helps. --- Samuel Gravina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Posted by: gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] fflmod Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:02 am (PST) I was part of the Cambridge center and knew John. It was powerful sitting next to him in the flying wall at the times I did that. I could feel the intense energy. I also knew Tony. I also knew Sam Gravina. Hi Gullible Fool. I think I remember you. Were you the guy who naively believed stuff that turned out to not be true? Sam Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir shakti
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I have to ask.what is the backround of King Tony? When was he initiated in TM? When did he take teacher training? Siddhis? Do you know of anyone who hung out with him before he was, um, crowned? Was he a normal dude? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Samuel Gravina wrote: I knew Tony when he was in Cambridge in the early 80's. He was a TM Governor and a regular dude. He was very smart, very nice and dedicated to TM just like we all were . He sat on the airplane with my wife when they went to the Amsterdam course (I couldn't go because I was more into grad school than I was into seeing Maharishi, plus we couldn't afford two plane tickets). My wife was cute and he was cute and I'm sure that had something to do with why they ended up sitting next to each other. He loved Lebanon and really liked skiing he said the skiiing in Lebanon was great. My wife and Tony planned a ski trip for the three of us but it never came about. I also knew John Hagelen back then. He too was a very regular guy. He had that aristocratic accent back then but he didn't talk like a vocabulary quiz. I once asked him why he talked so fancy for the movement and he said that that was what Maharishi liked to hear. My take on Tony and John is that they are both very bright guys who also will do anything for Maharishi. It would be impossible for me to think they are brain washed. They were so together and their personalities were very well developed. It is also very hard for me to think they believe all the stuff they are saying. Or maybe they think it's true on some level. Nobody knows what is really in the heart of anybody. I don't know what's in my heart. Sam Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I know John quite well from years prior to and his first couple of years in TM. We went to school together and were good friends. I agree with Sam. John is a complete regular guy, far from some bliss ninny mood-maker. He's very smart and loves verbal puns. John is the complete opposite of Bevan! Yes,is encouraging testimony. Om, do any of these apostles have that kind of spiritual juice for giving dharshan? Diksha? Shakti Pot? Help people through dharshan with spiritual life, experience, energy life, or hands-on heal the lame? Or, is that still not comely for TMmovement officials? In my experience, giving Shakti Pot is extremely rare in the Movement ! :-
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 18, 2008, at 9:13 PM, Samuel Gravina wrote: He loved Lebanon and really liked skiing he said the skiiing in Lebanon was great. The skiing is great...in Lebanon? Makes me suspicious of the guy already. 4 places you just can't miss if you're an avid skier: Vail Aspen St. Moritz Beirut Way to go, Tony. Sal http://www.skileb.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
On Feb 18, 2008, at 9:13 PM, Samuel Gravina wrote: He loved Lebanon and really liked skiing he said the skiiing in Lebanon was great. The skiing is great...in Lebanon? Makes me suspicious of the guy already. 4 places you just can't miss if you're an avid skier: Vail Aspen St. Moritz Beirut Way to go, Tony. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Samuel Gravina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also knew John Hagelen back then. He too was a very regular guy. He had that aristocratic accent back then but he didn't talk like a vocabulary quiz. I once asked him why he talked so fancy for the movement and he said that that was what Maharishi liked to hear. I know John quite well from years prior to and his first couple of years in TM. We went to school together and were good friends. I agree with Sam. John is a complete regular guy, far from some bliss ninny mood-maker. He's very smart and loves verbal puns. John is the complete opposite of Bevan! Maybe. But he is a bit of a nutcase conspiracty theorist. There was that incident reported in the Fairfield Ledger in which he intimated that the CIA had infiltrated the Movement or something like that. Pretty weird, cult-like stuff. __ __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 18, 2008, at 9:13 PM, Samuel Gravina wrote: He loved Lebanon and really liked skiing he said the skiiing in Lebanon was great. The skiing is great...in Lebanon? Makes me suspicious of the guy already. 4 places you just can't miss if you're an avid skier: Vail Aspen St. Moritz Beirut Way to go, Tony. Sal Actually, there is skiing in Israel! I think it's an area near the Golan Heights: http://www.israelnewsagency.com/skiisraelhermonfun.html There is also skiing in Arizona which is, of course, known for its deserts, too.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Samuel Gravina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I have to ask.what is the backround of King Tony? When was he initiated in TM? When did he take teacher training? Siddhis? Do you know of anyone who hung out with him before he was, um, crowned? Was he a normal dude? I knew Tony when he was in Cambridge in the early 80's. He was a TM Governor and a regular dude. He was very smart, very nice and dedicated to TM just like we all were . He sat on the airplane with my wife when they went to the Amsterdam course (I couldn't go because I was more into grad school than I was into seeing Maharishi, plus we couldn't afford two plane tickets). My wife was cute and he was cute and I'm sure that had something to do with why they ended up sitting next to each other. He loved Lebanon and really liked skiing he said the skiiing in Lebanon was great. My wife and Tony planned a ski trip for the three of us but it never came about. I also knew John Hagelen back then. He too was a very regular guy. He had that aristocratic accent back then but he didn't talk like a vocabulary quiz. I once asked him why he talked so fancy for the movement and he said that that was what Maharishi liked to hear. My take on Tony and John is that they are both very bright guys who also will do anything for Maharishi. It would be impossible for me to think they are brain washed. They were so together and their personalities were very well developed. It is also very hard for me to think they believe all the stuff they are saying. Or maybe they think it's true on some level. Nobody knows what is really in the heart of anybody. I don't know what's in my heart. Sam Thanks Sam, this is the kid of stuff I am looking for. Curtis, 'cmon man, YOU are the guy to write the music for the soundtrack. I'm thinking kind of a Ry Cooderish Paris Texas kind of thing. Are you down?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Samuel Gravina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Nobody knows what is really in the heart of anybody. I don't know what's in my heart. Sam tomato juice.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
Thanks Sam, this is the kid of stuff I am looking for. Curtis, 'cmon man, YOU are the guy to write the music for the soundtrack. I'm thinking kind of a Ry Cooderish Paris Texas kind of thing. Are you down? I was thinking more like hindustani slide. That might work. http://youtube.com/watch?v=-BWgzSr6qTU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Samuel Gravina sgravina@ wrote: So I have to ask.what is the backround of King Tony? When was he initiated in TM? When did he take teacher training? Siddhis? Do you know of anyone who hung out with him before he was, um, crowned? Was he a normal dude? I knew Tony when he was in Cambridge in the early 80's. He was a TM Governor and a regular dude. He was very smart, very nice and dedicated to TM just like we all were . He sat on the airplane with my wife when they went to the Amsterdam course (I couldn't go because I was more into grad school than I was into seeing Maharishi, plus we couldn't afford two plane tickets). My wife was cute and he was cute and I'm sure that had something to do with why they ended up sitting next to each other. He loved Lebanon and really liked skiing he said the skiiing in Lebanon was great. My wife and Tony planned a ski trip for the three of us but it never came about. I also knew John Hagelen back then. He too was a very regular guy. He had that aristocratic accent back then but he didn't talk like a vocabulary quiz. I once asked him why he talked so fancy for the movement and he said that that was what Maharishi liked to hear. My take on Tony and John is that they are both very bright guys who also will do anything for Maharishi. It would be impossible for me to think they are brain washed. They were so together and their personalities were very well developed. It is also very hard for me to think they believe all the stuff they are saying. Or maybe they think it's true on some level. Nobody knows what is really in the heart of anybody. I don't know what's in my heart. Sam Thanks Sam, this is the kid of stuff I am looking for. Curtis, 'cmon man, YOU are the guy to write the music for the soundtrack. I'm thinking kind of a Ry Cooderish Paris Texas kind of thing. Are you down?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Samuel Gravina sgravina@ wrote: snip Nobody knows what is really in the heart of anybody. I don't know what's in my heart. Sam tomato juice. Brilliant Jim. God you're so fucking high!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Samuel Gravina sgravina@ wrote: snip Nobody knows what is really in the heart of anybody. I don't know what's in my heart. Sam tomato juice. Brilliant Jim. God you're so fucking high! dude! high four!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dhamiltony2k5 Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 8:37 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nadir No the more important question, for all of us, is will he produce an heir? God save the King. On that note: Ha! OK, guess I'll pull this one out again. Genius from Ned Wynn: The Last Message Maharishi's Deathbed Confession I want to set the record straight now that I am about to make the final journey. I never really intended for things to get quite this out of whack. When I started out I just wanted to make a few buck for my family in Kerala and maybe help some people in the West learn a useful meditation that could help them relax. That was really it. I knew the meditation would never enlighten anyone. Hell, it didn't enlighten me, so how could it do that for anyone else? But people seemed so needy, so anxious and so interested in enlightenment that I couldn't resist. And the money! God, the money these people would throw at me for this! And I could buy nice cars and really high-quality silk and pashmina and fly in chartered jets and all that, it was too much for this little old Indian boy to pass up. So I got greedy. And eventually I got more ambitious. And the greedier and more ambitious I became the more money and power I required. I became like a wild dog eating up the countryside. At first it was a rush, then I did it just to stay even. Same thing with the chicks. I was supposed to keep hands off, but they were throwing themselves at me. I couldn't help it. Well, maybe I could have. I mean I could have remained steadfast in my vows, but come on! I mean, have you seen some of these girls in their miniskirts and all that? Especially back in the 60's and 70's? Anyway, I did carry on with dozens, maybe hundreds, of my own disciples. At least I wasn't a fag. And I didn't mess with little kids like some gurus I know. So give me credit for that. Now all this flying stuff and these world government things and titles, all that stuff. I really didn't want to get into that, but the family was growing and the people wanted more. They had investments in Europe and India and a lot of real estate and needed more and more money. So I looked at the world and I decided to go the whole route. Hell, it worked for Hitler. That Third Reich deal was completely believable if you were a good Nazi. So I built this grandiose thing up and told people we absolutely had to do it to save the world (OK, I'm given to exaggeration, so shoot me) and everyone needed to give me a million dollars each and all this stuff. And people did it! They went for it! I shouldn't have been surprised. After forty years of bullshitting people I knew that no matter how outlandish I became, no matter how ridiculous a plan I came up with, there would always be plenty of mindless idiots (sorry Larry and Bevan and the rest of you panjandrums and phony royalty, but come on, you really don't believe it, do you? And besides you got a lot of tail and worship and all so don't be too pissed at me. It's not like you starved, you know? Of course after I die no one will give two shits about you or your titles. But you have to admit you had some fun while it lasted, didn't you?) So here on my deathbed let me say to those whose lives and marriages I ruined and whom I bilked out of their entire life savings: you could have lived and flourished and had truly productive lives instead of the impoverished, sad-ass, sorry lives you now have. But you would have had to leave me years ago. You should have gotten wise to this especially when I started that bogus flying thing. You knew you weren't flying. You knew you were just bouncing around on mattresses. So why didn't you leave? A lot of people did leave. They were the smart ones. Why did you stay? Hello! Earth to Purusha! Are you that brain-dead? I really can't take the blame for people who are just too dumb to wash behind their own ears. But I do apologize for what it's worth. Which ain't much but it certainly makes me feel better. And that's the whole point, right? Anyway, I have changed. I have one last message to give to the world. Inshallah! God is Great! Allah is God and Muhammad is his Prophet! Kill the Infidels, kill all Americans and Jews and Muslims who do not follow Sharia! God is Great! God is Great! God is Great! Surprised? I thought you might be. Not to worry about the conversion: I already have my 70 virgins all picked out. Lates, MMY
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Samuel Gravina Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:14 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir I also knew John Hagelen back then. He too was a very regular guy. I initiated John Hagelin. I should share some stories. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1286 - Release Date: 2/18/2008 6:49 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Sam, this is the kid of stuff I am looking for. Curtis, 'cmon man, YOU are the guy to write the music for the soundtrack. I'm thinking kind of a Ry Cooderish Paris Texas kind of thing. Are you down? I was thinking more like hindustani slide. That might work. http://youtube.com/watch?v=-BWgzSr6qTU Yes brother man! Perfectput an overdub of diddley-bow on there and we've got something to talk about! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Samuel Gravina sgravina@ wrote: So I have to ask.what is the backround of King Tony? When was he initiated in TM? When did he take teacher training? Siddhis? Do you know of anyone who hung out with him before he was, um, crowned? Was he a normal dude? I knew Tony when he was in Cambridge in the early 80's. He was a TM Governor and a regular dude. He was very smart, very nice and dedicated to TM just like we all were . He sat on the airplane with my wife when they went to the Amsterdam course (I couldn't go because I was more into grad school than I was into seeing Maharishi, plus we couldn't afford two plane tickets). My wife was cute and he was cute and I'm sure that had something to do with why they ended up sitting next to each other. He loved Lebanon and really liked skiing he said the skiiing in Lebanon was great. My wife and Tony planned a ski trip for the three of us but it never came about. I also knew John Hagelen back then. He too was a very regular guy. He had that aristocratic accent back then but he didn't talk like a vocabulary quiz. I once asked him why he talked so fancy for the movement and he said that that was what Maharishi liked to hear. My take on Tony and John is that they are both very bright guys who also will do anything for Maharishi. It would be impossible for me to think they are brain washed. They were so together and their personalities were very well developed. It is also very hard for me to think they believe all the stuff they are saying. Or maybe they think it's true on some level. Nobody knows what is really in the heart of anybody. I don't know what's in my heart. Sam Thanks Sam, this is the kid of stuff I am looking for. Curtis, 'cmon man, YOU are the guy to write the music for the soundtrack. I'm thinking kind of a Ry Cooderish Paris Texas kind of thing. Are you down?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Sam, this is the kid of stuff I am looking for. Curtis, 'cmon man, YOU are the guy to write the music for the soundtrack. I'm thinking kind of a Ry Cooderish Paris Texas kind of thing. I actually downloaded the Ry Cooder them music from Paris, Texas about 4 years ago from the internet and have listened to it on a regular basis ever since. Love the slide guitar. Ever heard of Ellen McIlwaine? Are you down? I was thinking more like hindustani slide. That might work. http://youtube.com/watch?v=-BWgzSr6qTU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Samuel Gravina sgravina@ wrote: So I have to ask.what is the backround of King Tony? When was he initiated in TM? When did he take teacher training? Siddhis? Do you know of anyone who hung out with him before he was, um, crowned? Was he a normal dude? I knew Tony when he was in Cambridge in the early 80's. He was a TM Governor and a regular dude. He was very smart, very nice and dedicated to TM just like we all were . He sat on the airplane with my wife when they went to the Amsterdam course (I couldn't go because I was more into grad school than I was into seeing Maharishi, plus we couldn't afford two plane tickets). My wife was cute and he was cute and I'm sure that had something to do with why they ended up sitting next to each other. He loved Lebanon and really liked skiing he said the skiiing in Lebanon was great. My wife and Tony planned a ski trip for the three of us but it never came about. I also knew John Hagelen back then. He too was a very regular guy. He had that aristocratic accent back then but he didn't talk like a vocabulary quiz. I once asked him why he talked so fancy for the movement and he said that that was what Maharishi liked to hear. My take on Tony and John is that they are both very bright guys who also will do anything for Maharishi. It would be impossible for me to think they are brain washed. They were so together and their personalities were very well developed. It is also very hard for me to think they believe all the stuff they are saying. Or maybe they think it's true on some level. Nobody knows what is really in the heart of anybody. I don't know what's in my heart. Sam Thanks Sam, this is the kid of stuff I am looking for. Curtis, 'cmon man, YOU are the guy to write the music for the soundtrack. I'm thinking kind of a Ry Cooderish Paris Texas kind of thing. Are you down?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Samuel Gravina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I have to ask.what is the backround of King Tony? When was he initiated in TM? When did he take teacher training? Siddhis? Do you know of anyone who hung out with him before he was, um, crowned? Was he a normal dude? I knew Tony when he was in Cambridge in the early 80's. He was a TM Governor and a regular dude. He was very smart, very nice and dedicated to TM just like we all were . He sat on the airplane with my wife when they went to the Amsterdam course (I couldn't go because I was more into grad school than I was into seeing Maharishi, plus we couldn't afford two plane tickets). My wife was cute and he was cute and I'm sure that had something to do with why they ended up sitting next to each other. He loved Lebanon and really liked skiing he said the skiiing in Lebanon was great. My wife and Tony planned a ski trip for the three of us but it never came about. Sam, OK, and I know this is delicate.but did your wife and (Future King) Tony have anything going between them? I mean, it's OK if they did. I had a close friend who lived in NY in the late 70s who knew Miles Davis. My friend had been suspecting his wife of infidelity and sure enoughone day he came home early to find that she was naked and clearly in the apartment with someone else. He went ballistic and started tearing through the rooms, swearing the entire time I'll find you, you bastard and I'll kill you when I do!. Finally he gets to the last hiding placethe shower. His anger peaking, he flips the shower curtain to the side to reveal a stark naked Mikes Davis. The enraged expression turns to a smile. God damn. Miles Davis! I'm not sayingbut did they?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
On Feb 18, 2008, at 10:51 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: Actually, there is skiing in Israel! I think it's an area near the Golan Heights: http://www.israelnewsagency.com/skiisraelhermonfun.html I know there's skiing in Israel and no doubt other places in the area. But...great? Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nadir
On Feb 18, 2008, at 11:10 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: hindustani slide Sounds like the name of a new dance. Sal
