[FairfieldLife] Re: Types of Pietism

2017-10-01 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

Good distinction, thanks for the perspective.  
 
yifuxero wrote :

 May be categorized as to the early Age of Enlightenment (mainly German 
Lutherasns) (17-th century) and the later period (l18-th)  being influenced by 
the founders of Methodism: John Wesley and his friend George Whitefield.
 The early period had an important evolutionary trend in that:
 Quietism (a practice of the Quakers and others), became distinct form 
"Enthusiasm" which later evolved ;into "Being Born again in the Holy Spirit", 
popular especially in Methodism and then many other sects such as the 
Pentacostals.
 Thus, we have two trends: 1. Quietism leading to Transcendental Awareness, and
 ...2. Being "Born Again" as a purely 
emotional conversion
 Those are two important trends we have today, for the most part completely at 
odds.  The second group is of course a package deal accompanied by rigid 
literal interpretations of the Bible, group confessions, the singing of Hymns, 
and Evangelistic ferver leading to religious conversions of non-Believers.
 ...
 Quietist movements OTOH, do not emphasize emotional religious conversions 
since the Essence of what occurs in Quietism is something that can be "caught" 
but not "taught".
 As to a popularity contest, Quietism and it forms are today in the extreme 
'minority, mainly due to the growth of Evangelism through John Wesley and 
George Whitefield.
 Pietism and the growth of the early Evangelical Movement through Wesley and 
Whitefield is covered in detail in this excellent video by Pastor Tom Nelson of 
Denton, TX, a graduate of the Dallsas Theological Seminary:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_PFqLE2mrg&list=PLT8IFvbAQaujmVknoahiRYDDoZszLYEzU&index=8
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_PFqLE2mrg&list=PLT8IFvbAQaujmVknoahiRYDDoZszLYEzU&index=8
 

 SHALOM
 

 Gospel music and its many hymns represent the inner core of Evangelical 
Christianity.  If you think, "Amazing Grace", for example, we cannot wonder why 
the Evangelical Movement became so popular. Hymns even helped fuel the Civil 
War since while not shooting each other, both Confederates and the Union 
soldiers could engage in singing hymns.
 The great age of Hymns (17-th - 18-centuries( are covered in the first 10 min 
of this video, along with audios of some of the more important ones, such as:
 "Amazing Grace" - John Henry Newton, 1725 - 1807,
 "Christ the Lord is Risen Today" - Charles Wesley
 "Joy to the World" - Isaac Watts
 "Rock of Ages" - Augustus Toplady
 
 Compare Gospel Hymns to Vedic Hymns.  Which are more likely to win the 
popularity contest in the US?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVhYHa-Cjcg&index=9&list=PLT8IFvbAQaujmVknoahiRYDDoZszLYEzU
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVhYHa-Cjcg&index=9&list=PLT8IFvbAQaujmVknoahiRYDDoZszLYEzU
 

 
 SHALOM
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Types of Pietism

2017-09-11 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Start at 40 min into the video for the section starting with John Wesley and 
Whitefield.
 

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