[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj - The Balm of Enlightened-Mind

2009-05-12 Thread Richard J. Williams
  A Stream Enterer would be roughly equivalent 
  to Brahman Consciousness...
  
emptybill wrote:
 ...so he invents and assigns what he thinks 
 will soundo-so-esoteric.
 
Too avid seeking for enlightenment embodies a very 
subtle greed which must be rooted out by more subtle 
efforts. But you must not pursue the uprooting 
greedily, but by means of a still more subtle way. 

Vaj needs to realize that he is not going to get 
any more enlightenment than he is poing to get. And 
while metaphysical pursuits may be interesting to a 
certain degree, not one single concept is going to 
help him cross over to the other side.

The problem of stopping the striving is sufficiently 
difficult, complex, and attention-demanding that 
anyone who pursues it seriously will have little time 
left over for indulging unhappily in metaphysical 
pursuits (20-23). 

Work cited:

'Philosophy of the Buddha'
by Archie J. Bahm
Harper, 1959



[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj - The Balm of Enlightened-Mind

2009-05-11 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote:

 
 Vaj opines:
 
 A Stream Enterer would be roughly equivalent to Brahman Consciousness
 where one is permanently awake and one has obliterated all the
 afflictive emotion, one still has some subtle obscurations remaining. 
 It the entry level bodhisattva.
 
 
 
 This is a statement of amazing ignorance when comparing these two
 traditions – especially for someone parading themselves here as an
 authority on buddhist and hindu yogas.
 
 In fact, this single statement alone demonstrates and confirms that Vaj
 is merely a spiritual hack. There is no other conclusion to make other
 that that this puffed-up and incredibly shallow little I' parades
 itself here on FFL solely for self-validation.
 
 Maybe we can get one of the administrators to affix a caveat emptor
 behind his name whenever it posts.
 
 Even better - maybe I can scare up some real
 Buddhists to populate this site for a few months.
 
 On the other hand, that is a bit of a stretch since all the Buddhists I
 know would never talk as he talks or act here on the forum in such a
 way, (except for the personality-distorted or spiritually immature.)
 Even most of them (19 year olds) would never posture themselves here as
 he does.
 
 
 
 It is all ultimately hilarious – what a sham guru he plays himself
 out to be. This seems to be his most intimate need here and any balanced
 personality would be ashamed to delivered such posts. But Vaj keeps
 illuminating us because he truly believes you are all too uninformed to
 know the difference - so he invents and assigns what he thinks will
 soundo-so-esoteric.
 
 
 
 
   Caveat Emptor indeed, folks!
 
 
 
 Can't we locate some groupies to come here to FFL and narcotize this
 man's ponderous I?
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
   Vaj wrote:
 A Stream Enterer would be roughly equivalent to Brahman
 Consciousness where one is permanently awake and one has obliterated all
 the afflictive emotion, one still has some subtle obscurations
 remaining. It the entry level bodhisattva.
 
  Sorry, I meant to say Path of No More Learning--it's many
  realizations beyond a stream enterer.
 


Emptybill, I read Vaj's post yesterday and I had no idea what he was talking 
about. A Stream Enterer sounded like Alien Walk-in to me, so I looked no 
further. You renewed my interest this morning and according to Google:

A stream-enterer is guaranteed enlightenment after no more than seven 
successive rebirths, and possibly in fewer. The stream-enterer can also be sure 
that he will not be reborn in any of the unhappy states or rebirths (an animal, 
a preta, or in hell). He can only be reborn as a human being, or in a heaven.

The stream-enterer has attained an intuitive grasp of Buddhist doctrine 
(samyagd#7771;#7779;#7789;i or samm#257;di#7789;#7789;hi, right view), 
has complete confidence or Saddha in the Three Jewels of Buddha, Dhamma, and 
Sangha, and has good moral behaviour (Sila).

Buddhist sure know how to get down to details, don't they? So what is the 
relevance of the Wikipedia's definition to Vaj's use of the term Stream 
Enterer and is he partly correct or totally incorrect?