[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
Fairfield, Sustainable Living in 572 square feet. http://ottumwacourier.com/features/x519437794/Fairfield-couple-builds-572-foot-house-with-reclaimed-materials Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/smartsizer/sets/72157602122315762/ DM Register article: http://www.frdesignsiowa.com/Register.htm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Does not even come close to solve the larger problem of housing for people on the IA course here. Housing for aging TM'ers? TM movement- singles on Mother Divine, Purusha and MUM? started building simple houses that were put at the disposal of the poor. As it became clear how great the need was, a project for building 25,000 houses for widows, handicaped, elderly and other needy people started in 1998. Yep, take a look around the Dome and see a retiree older population. A worthy project for community sustainability would be scaling housing to the needs of social security incomes. $900 or $1,100 per month from SSI. Housing and utilities for $300 a month. 30% of income. The Howard Settle stipend is not going to last, git ready. The MAM guarantees the maintenance of the district for 10 years. The inhabitants are not allowed to sell the houses during the first seven years, but after that period, they get full ownership of the house and land. The aim to build 25,000 houses in 5 years' time has already been largely achieved and Amma has now set a higher goal: 100,000 houses in 10 years! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ wrote: Vastu Cabin! After several months of building it was so fulfilling to show you the finished product and hear your feedback. I'm writing to you today to share our website and facebook page. Like our Facebook page to keep posted on new Vastu Cabin developments! Please enjoy the photos and share with your friends. www.VastuCabin.com www.facebook.com/vastucabin -- www.VastuCabin.com $30K? Without a place to put it? Bourgeois green in new-age vedic woo-woo package. Cute but without a root chakra. Does not even come close to solve the larger problem of housing for people on the IA course here. The real design problem is a need for something efficient and affordable for meditators coming to be in the Domes on the Howard Settle income stipend of $850 a month. Bankers use rule of thumb, 30% of monthly income for all housing costs. Use that as the design constraint. This bourgeois-y vastu cabin only perpetuates the larger spiritual distraction and sin of materialism. Nothing green about fanning the flames of an over-priced cute green housing that would bury people trying to live a spiritual life. That has already been done here. -Buck in the Dome
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
Does not even come close to solve the larger problem of housing for people on the IA course here. Housing for aging TM'ers? TM movement- singles on Mother Divine, Purusha and MUM? started building simple houses that were put at the disposal of the poor. As it became clear how great the need was, a project for building 25,000 houses for widows, handicaped, elderly and other needy people started in 1998. Yep, take a look around the Dome and see a retiree older population. A worthy project for community sustainability would be scaling housing to the needs of social security incomes. $900 or $1,100 per month from SSI. The Howard Settle stipend is not going to last, git ready. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ wrote: Vastu Cabin! After several months of building it was so fulfilling to show you the finished product and hear your feedback. I'm writing to you today to share our website and facebook page. Like our Facebook page to keep posted on new Vastu Cabin developments! Please enjoy the photos and share with your friends. www.VastuCabin.com www.facebook.com/vastucabin -- www.VastuCabin.com $30K? Without a place to put it? Bourgeois green in new-age vedic woo-woo package. Cute but without a root chakra. Does not even come close to solve the larger problem of housing for people on the IA course here. The real design problem is a need for something efficient and affordable for meditators coming to be in the Domes on the Howard Settle income stipend of $850 a month. Bankers use rule of thumb, 30% of monthly income for all housing costs. Use that as the design constraint. This bourgeois-y vastu cabin only perpetuates the larger spiritual distraction and sin of materialism. Nothing green about fanning the flames of an over-priced cute green housing that would bury people trying to live a spiritual life. That has already been done here. -Buck in the Dome
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
Does not even come close to solve the larger problem of housing for people on the IA course here. Housing for aging TM'ers? TM movement- singles on Mother Divine, Purusha and MUM? started building simple houses that were put at the disposal of the poor. As it became clear how great the need was, a project for building 25,000 houses for widows, handicaped, elderly and other needy people started in 1998. Yep, take a look around the Dome and see a retiree older population. A worthy project for community sustainability would be scaling housing to the needs of social security incomes. $900 or $1,100 per month from SSI. The Howard Settle stipend is not going to last, git ready. The MAM guarantees the maintenance of the district for 10 years. The inhabitants are not allowed to sell the houses during the first seven years, but after that period, they get full ownership of the house and land. The aim to build 25,000 houses in 5 years' time has already been largely achieved and Amma has now set a higher goal: 100,000 houses in 10 years! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ wrote: Vastu Cabin! After several months of building it was so fulfilling to show you the finished product and hear your feedback. I'm writing to you today to share our website and facebook page. Like our Facebook page to keep posted on new Vastu Cabin developments! Please enjoy the photos and share with your friends. www.VastuCabin.com www.facebook.com/vastucabin -- www.VastuCabin.com $30K? Without a place to put it? Bourgeois green in new-age vedic woo-woo package. Cute but without a root chakra. Does not even come close to solve the larger problem of housing for people on the IA course here. The real design problem is a need for something efficient and affordable for meditators coming to be in the Domes on the Howard Settle income stipend of $850 a month. Bankers use rule of thumb, 30% of monthly income for all housing costs. Use that as the design constraint. This bourgeois-y vastu cabin only perpetuates the larger spiritual distraction and sin of materialism. Nothing green about fanning the flames of an over-priced cute green housing that would bury people trying to live a spiritual life. That has already been done here. -Buck in the Dome
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Housing and utilities for $300 a month. 30% of income. I fully admit to the Steinian Sin of spotty reading, and confess to have followed none of what preceded this. I'm replying just to agree (for once) with one of Buck's pronouncements. :-) I think that housing and utilities should constitute no more than 30% of one's family income. Throw in an additional 10% (19% if you're a rabid conservative) for health care and the guarantee of a pension when you retire, and I think you've got most of the bases of human existence covered. That still leaves the lion's share of one's earned income to spend on lifestyle choices, whether they be frittering the money away on the latest tech or bling, or investing in a house or one's future. This is achievable. I have lived in countries in which this is almost the norm, unless its citizens chose to live in the most expensive cities. I have been fortunate, because of my income, to live most of my life spending no more than this on my housing, utilities (including Internet), health care, and pension. I have lived in countries in which the average wage was a tenth of mine, and many of them managed to do the same. Go figure. A well-run country allows its citizens to glimpse, and participate in, such a vision. A shitty country -- one in which the neo-Fascist corporate and business interests have been allowed to run things -- doesn't. In the latter countries, this is not even seen as a goal.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@... wrote: Vastu Cabin! After several months of building it was so fulfilling to show you the finished product and hear your feedback. I'm writing to you today to share our website and facebook page. Like our Facebook page to keep posted on new Vastu Cabin developments! Please enjoy the photos and share with your friends. www.VastuCabin.com www.facebook.com/vastucabin -- www.VastuCabin.com $30K? Without a place to put it? Bourgeois green in new-age vedic woo-woo package. Cute but without a root chakra. Does not even come close to solve the larger problem of housing for people on the IA course here. The real design problem is a need for something efficient and affordable for meditators coming to be in the Domes on the Howard Settle income stipend of $850 a month. Bankers use rule of thumb, 30% of monthly income for all housing costs. Use that as the design constraint. This bourgeois-y vastu cabin only perpetuates the larger spiritual distraction and sin of materialism. Nothing green about fanning the flames of an over-priced cute green housing that would bury people trying to live a spiritual life. That has already been done here. -Buck in the Dome
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
Does not even come close to solve the larger problem of housing for people on the IA course here. Housing for aging TM'ers? TM movement- singles on Mother Divine, Purusha and MUM? started building simple houses that were put at the disposal of the poor. As it became clear how great the need was, a project for building 25,000 houses for widows, handicaped, elderly and other needy people started in 1998. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ wrote: Vastu Cabin! After several months of building it was so fulfilling to show you the finished product and hear your feedback. I'm writing to you today to share our website and facebook page. Like our Facebook page to keep posted on new Vastu Cabin developments! Please enjoy the photos and share with your friends. www.VastuCabin.com www.facebook.com/vastucabin -- www.VastuCabin.com $30K? Without a place to put it? Bourgeois green in new-age vedic woo-woo package. Cute but without a root chakra. Does not even come close to solve the larger problem of housing for people on the IA course here. The real design problem is a need for something efficient and affordable for meditators coming to be in the Domes on the Howard Settle income stipend of $850 a month. Bankers use rule of thumb, 30% of monthly income for all housing costs. Use that as the design constraint. This bourgeois-y vastu cabin only perpetuates the larger spiritual distraction and sin of materialism. Nothing green about fanning the flames of an over-priced cute green housing that would bury people trying to live a spiritual life. That has already been done here. -Buck in the Dome
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
Ancient pre-industrial societies were essentialy agrarian with livestock as occupation. Climate played an important role in agrarian cultures. The sun travelling down to the south resulted in winter and that was bad for agriculture. After touching the lowest point in the south, the Sun returns in it's northward journey resulting in spring and summer. Consequently, these agricultural societies regarded the north direction and the northward path of the sun as 'auspicious'. This is mentioned in Bhagavad Gita, Chap 8, 24. Fire, flame, day-time, the bright fortnight of the moon, the six months of the Northern passage of the sun, taking this path, the knowers of Brahman go to Brahman. 25. Smoke, night-time, the dark fortnight of the moon, the six months of the Southern passage of the sun taking this path the Yogi, attaining the lunar light and returns Please note that this Vastu was formulated only for the people living in the northern hemisphere. India itself is in the northern hemisphere. For the people living in the Southern hemisphere, the auspicious path of the sun has to be in reverse. In Australia the summer is in January. Thus they have to invert the Vastu concept. --- sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Eh all cows in the world tend to sleep with their heads aligned north. Perhaps ancient Indians noticed this and created an entire mythos around the phenomenon? --- salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: So the sacred cows of India will go against the ideal vastu recomendation and face north? Duh, it's migration. Cows, whales, birds all have magnetic bones in their heads because the are, or are descended from, migratory animals and thus have a real need to see the earth's magentic field. Apes never have been and so have no magnetic sense unless it's way redundant. So I'm going with my sunworship theory for the development of vastu and not extrapolations from cow herd behaviour which is a recent observation anyway as I'm sure it would have entered northern folklore if any europeans had noticed it over our millenia of dairy farming. They must care more about money. You are most likely correct though, shame there isn't evidence that apes do this it might have convinced me there is something to it.meaning we have magnetic awareness too, not that our brains work better when facing in a particular direction. But then the face east thing must be from sun worshipping which is going to be the default belief of people recently converted to agriculture and vastu dwellings help work out equinoxes with the way the fence posts line up with the front door - Most impressive bit of it for me, that and the fact they chose the place of the kitchen to be the coolest part of the house. Redundant in the age of fridges but wouldn't take long to work it out come a decent energy crisis and people in vastu might be the last to get food poisoning. Natural selection in action. More extrapolations ahead! Or perhaps there's some real explanation for both vastu and astrological traditions? http://xenophilius.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/unexplained-all-cows-everywhere-simultaneously-face-north-or-south-while-eating/ Humans enjoy extrapolating. In palm-reading, there's a crease in the hand associated with how smart you are. Turns out that mongoloids don't have this crease. Another extrapolation? L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Xeno, FYI, the grahas are very much employed in vastu. Here are the designations: Jupiter--Northeast Sun--East Venus--Southeast South--South Rahu--Southwest Saturn--West Mercury--Northwest Moon--North There are more details involved. But that would take a full course in vastu. I was just quoting from a Wikipedia page, which mentioned these things were not mentioned in certain writings on the subject. I know very little about the details of this system or whether there are significant variations and multiple systems of sthapatyaveda. I have always regarded astrology as a pseudoscience, that is, simply untrue, with random, uncorrelated connexions with the world, and making no sense whatsoever. And sthapatyaveda does not make much sense either.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: Eh all cows in the world tend to sleep with their heads aligned north. Perhaps ancient Indians noticed this and created an entire mythos around the phenomenon? So the sacred cows of India will go against the ideal vastu recomendation and face north? They must care more about money. You are most likely correct though, shame there isn't evidence that apes do this it might have convinced me there is something to it.meaning we have magnetic awareness too, not that our brains work better when facing in a particular direction. But then the face east thing must be from sun worshipping which is going to be the default belief of people recently converted to agriculture and vastu dwellings help work out equinoxes with the way the fence posts line up with the front door - Most impressive bit of it for me, that and the fact they chose the place of the kitchen to be the coolest part of the house. Redundant in the age of fridges but wouldn't take long to work it out come a decent energy crisis and people in vastu might be the last to get food poisoning. Natural selection in action. More extrapolations ahead! Or perhaps there's some real explanation for both vastu and astrological traditions? http://xenophilius.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/unexplained-all-cows-everywhere-simultaneously-face-north-or-south-while-eating/ Humans enjoy extrapolating. In palm-reading, there's a crease in the hand associated with how smart you are. Turns out that mongoloids don't have this crease. Another extrapolation? L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Xeno, FYI, the grahas are very much employed in vastu. Here are the designations: Jupiter--Northeast Sun--East Venus--Southeast South--South Rahu--Southwest Saturn--West Mercury--Northwest Moon--North There are more details involved. But that would take a full course in vastu. I was just quoting from a Wikipedia page, which mentioned these things were not mentioned in certain writings on the subject. I know very little about the details of this system or whether there are significant variations and multiple systems of sthapatyaveda. I have always regarded astrology as a pseudoscience, that is, simply untrue, with random, uncorrelated connexions with the world, and making no sense whatsoever. And sthapatyaveda does not make much sense either.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Eh all cows in the world tend to sleep with their heads aligned north. Perhaps ancient Indians noticed this and created an entire mythos around the phenomenon? So the sacred cows of India will go against the ideal vastu recomendation and face north? Duh, it's migration. Cows, whales, birds all have magnetic bones in their heads because the are, or are descended from, migratory animals and thus have a real need to see the earth's magentic field. Apes never have been and so have no magnetic sense unless it's way redundant. So I'm going with my sunworship theory for the development of vastu and not extrapolations from cow herd behaviour which is a recent observation anyway as I'm sure it would have entered northern folklore if any europeans had noticed it over our millenia of dairy farming. They must care more about money. You are most likely correct though, shame there isn't evidence that apes do this it might have convinced me there is something to it.meaning we have magnetic awareness too, not that our brains work better when facing in a particular direction. But then the face east thing must be from sun worshipping which is going to be the default belief of people recently converted to agriculture and vastu dwellings help work out equinoxes with the way the fence posts line up with the front door - Most impressive bit of it for me, that and the fact they chose the place of the kitchen to be the coolest part of the house. Redundant in the age of fridges but wouldn't take long to work it out come a decent energy crisis and people in vastu might be the last to get food poisoning. Natural selection in action. More extrapolations ahead! Or perhaps there's some real explanation for both vastu and astrological traditions? http://xenophilius.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/unexplained-all-cows-everywhere-simultaneously-face-north-or-south-while-eating/ Humans enjoy extrapolating. In palm-reading, there's a crease in the hand associated with how smart you are. Turns out that mongoloids don't have this crease. Another extrapolation? L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Xeno, FYI, the grahas are very much employed in vastu. Here are the designations: Jupiter--Northeast Sun--East Venus--Southeast South--South Rahu--Southwest Saturn--West Mercury--Northwest Moon--North There are more details involved. But that would take a full course in vastu. I was just quoting from a Wikipedia page, which mentioned these things were not mentioned in certain writings on the subject. I know very little about the details of this system or whether there are significant variations and multiple systems of sthapatyaveda. I have always regarded astrology as a pseudoscience, that is, simply untrue, with random, uncorrelated connexions with the world, and making no sense whatsoever. And sthapatyaveda does not make much sense either.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:More extrapolations ahead! OMG salyavin808 found out,the cows do It to keep the sun out of their eyes. Let's do It http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cuArUG6sOc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSeGFCl5fWY --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Eh all cows in the world tend to sleep with their heads aligned north. Perhaps ancient Indians noticed this and created an entire mythos around the phenomenon? So the sacred cows of India will go against the ideal vastu recomendation and face north? They must care more about money. You are most likely correct though, shame there isn't evidence that apes do this it might have convinced me there is something to it.meaning we have magnetic awareness too, not that our brains work better when facing in a particular direction. But then the face east thing must be from sun worshipping which is going to be the default belief of people recently converted to agriculture and vastu dwellings help work out equinoxes with the way the fence posts line up with the front door - Most impressive bit of it for me, that and the fact they chose the place of the kitchen to be the coolest part of the house. Redundant in the age of fridges but wouldn't take long to work it out come a decent energy crisis and people in vastu might be the last to get food poisoning. Natural selection in action. More extrapolations ahead! Or perhaps there's some real explanation for both vastu and astrological traditions? http://xenophilius.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/unexplained-all-cows-everywh\ ere-simultaneously-face-north-or-south-while-eating/ Humans enjoy extrapolating. In palm-reading, there's a crease in the hand associated with how smart you are. Turns out that mongoloids don't have this crease. Another extrapolation? L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Xeno, FYI, the grahas are very much employed in vastu. Here are the designations: Jupiter--Northeast Sun--East Venus--Southeast South--South Rahu--Southwest Saturn--West Mercury--Northwest Moon--North There are more details involved. But that would take a full course in vastu. I was just quoting from a Wikipedia page, which mentioned these things were not mentioned in certain writings on the subject. I know very little about the details of this system or whether there are significant variations and multiple systems of sthapatyaveda. I have always regarded astrology as a pseudoscience, that is, simply untrue, with random, uncorrelated connexions with the world, and making no sense whatsoever. And sthapatyaveda does not make much sense either.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: snip It's a nice little cabin. But the cabin does not appear to have a brahmasthan, or an atrium in the middle of the house. Perhaps due to its small size, there's a vastu exception to the rule. There sure is, the brahmasthan doesn't have to be inside the house as it denotes the centre of the plot with the fortune fence as the boundary. That's according to the weird rules that those iron- age sun worshipping folks lived by anyway. I'd have mine in the middle of the house as it's somewhere to leave my bike. Salyavin, You would be defeating the purpose of the brahmasthan. It represents the connection of the cosmos to the home. Hence, the house gets the support from nature. If a brahmasthan only represents the connexion of a home to the cosmos, it is not going to do anything. It actually would have, in this hypothesis, to be a direct connexion to the cosmos to have some kind of effect. What that connexion is is not specified, or how it might work. How does what is basically an empty space or a hole affect the universe? Once in talking with an architect who wrote a book on various home styles around the world, I was told that the brahmasthan and this style of architecture was only used for temples, not homes; the ordinary people lived in non-sthapatyaveda domiciles. The idea of a brahmasthan is it represents consciousness as in brahman consciousness. The person, that is, the ego isn't there, there is a hole inside the person where where the ego and sense of selfdom was. There is no entity there, consciousness is seamless from inside to outside to the ends of the world. So where 'you' used to be is just hollow. Yet because there is a body there, everything surrounds this hollowed out shell of where the former you used to be. A brahmasthan is a physical representation of that - a hollow in the centre of the house or property, and the idea is a person doesn't walk through it because it does not represent the personal. Still people put junk in it, like a table with a flower vase on it, to keep people - that is, the personal - from walking into it. It is symbolic. If you manage to get yourself into brahman consciousness, or whatever you want to call it, you have a brahmasthan, the only important one, and it is everywhere where you are; you don't need a house. The body is your house. Work on removing the trash in the centre. Now that is a vastu tiny house. Xeno, You got the analogy correct. As a matter of fact, MMY recommended that people face east while working or making important decisions. This alignment is to ensure that a person gets the support of nature in all of his endeavors. Go on then, what is the mechanism for a brain making better decisions if it faces in this particular direction. The direction of the rising sun isn't going to impress me much as it only does that on two days of the year. I suspect it's one of those things that'll take 300 years before anyone agrees with it; society is bound to collapse back into a more ignorant superstitious state sooner or later ;-) The Sun rises from the east everyday of the year. IMO, MMY is saying that the human brain works better with this alignment due to the earth's magnetic polarity. This might make sense if it was north/south that was considered better and if we had any way of sensing magnetic fields. It's also symbolic since the Sun is considered to be a deity in the vedic culture. This what I've been saying old chap.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
Go on then, what is the mechanism for a brain making better decisions if it faces in this particular direction. The direction of the rising sun isn't going to impress me much as it only does that on two days of the year. I suspect it's one of those things that'll take 300 years before anyone agrees with it; society is bound to collapse back into a more ignorant superstitious state sooner or later ;-) John jr: The Sun rises from the east everyday of the year. You probably meant that the earth circles the sun every day, which for Vastu would make a profound difference in how we arrange our homes. It's all a matter of placement, commodity fetishism and just like setting up a 'hearth', probably the first use of which was not for warmth or for cooking food, but as a fetish in order to impress the neighbors. MMY is saying that the human brain works better with this alignment due to the earth's magnetic polarity. An essential part of any Vastu Living Home is a 'Zone of Tranquility'. It's also symbolic since the Sun is considered to be a deity in the vedic culture. According to MMY, the Hindu home should be a temple or 'peace pagoda', and it should have a Zone of Tranquility, that is, a puja room or prayer room for meditation. A Zone of Tranquility is a place where one can sit down and meditate on your Ista Devata. Pay attention! The Zone of Tranquility should not be confused with the 'Brahmansthana', which is where the Ista Devata is to be sitting. DO NOT SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE Brahmastan! The Zone, on the other hand, can be its own room or a part of a room. Your Zone of Tranquility should be a place where you can shut the door and meditate. A Note on the sitting: It has been found to be not ideal for a meditator to sit with their back facing the south entrance - better to be facing the east wall, about two feet from the wall with the Brahmastan on the right.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: snip The Sun rises from the east everyday of the year. You probably meant that the earth circles the sun every day, which for Vastu would make a profound difference in how we arrange our homes. Vastu or no vastu, the earth circling the sun every day would make a profound difference in how the earth and everything on it was arranged.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 06/04/2012 11:54 AM, Dick Mays wrote: Vastu Cabin! After several months of building it was so fulfilling to show you the finished product and hear your feedback. I'm writing to you today to share our website and facebook page. Like our Facebook page to keep posted on new Vastu Cabin developments! Please enjoy the photos and share with your friends. www.VastuCabin.com www.facebook.com/vastucabin That's cool. There is a trend towards smaller homes and those would be very popular and affordable. But I bet many communities might ban them as the effete would consider them low brow and demeaning to their monster homes. The banks probably won't finance them either. My neighbor, a real estate agent, tells me the builders around here are still stuck on building big homes whereas the public is becoming more interested in centralized communities where you can walk to everything including work. They tried to get those going in the 1990s but it didn't seem to go anywhere. It's a nice little cabin. But the cabin does not appear to have a bramasthan, or an atrium in the middle of the house. Perhaps due to its small size, there's a vastu exception to the rule. There sure is, the brahmasthan doesn't have to be inside the house as it denotes the centre of the plot with the fortune fence as the boundary. That's according to the weird rules that those iron- age sun worshipping folks lived by anyway. I'd have mine in the middle of the house as it's somewhere to leave my bike.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
On Jun 5, 2012, at 9:16 AM, salyavin808 wrote: That's according to the weird rules that those iron- age sun worshipping folks lived by anyway. I'd have mine in the middle of the house as it's somewhere to leave my bike. I placed a Siberian fireplace in my Bramasthan and it works great at keeping the whole house warm since it's so centrally placed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
On 06/04/2012 11:54 AM, Dick Mays wrote:
Vastu Cabin! After several months of building it was so fulfilling to show
you the finished product and hear your feedback.
I'm writing to you today to share our website and facebook page. Like our
Facebook page to keep posted on new Vastu Cabin developments!
Please enjoy the photos and share with your friends.
www.VastuCabin.com
www.facebook.com/vastucabin
That's cool. There is a trend towards smaller homes and those would be
very popular and affordable. But I bet many communities might ban them
as the effete would consider them low brow and demeaning to their
monster homes. The banks probably won't finance them either. My
neighbor, a real estate agent, tells me the builders around here are
still stuck on building big homes whereas the public is becoming more
interested in centralized communities where you can walk to everything
including work. They tried to get those going in the 1990s but it didn't
seem to go anywhere.
It's a nice little cabin. But the cabin does not appear to have a
bramasthan, or an atrium in the middle of the house. Perhaps due to its
small size, there's a vastu exception to the rule.
There sure is, the brahmasthan doesn't have to be inside
the house as it denotes the centre of the plot with
the fortune fence as the boundary.
That's according to the weird rules that those iron-
age sun worshipping folks lived by anyway. I'd have
mine in the middle of the house as it's somewhere
to leave my bike.
I wonder how much one could sell a vastu tent for? Hiking, mountain climbing.
Have a hell of a time trying to find the 'right place' to set it up.
When I looked up Vastu on the Internet, the first thing that came up was a
contemorary furniture store 'an old name for a new way of living'.
From Wikipedia:
The legend of the Vastu Purusha is related thus. Once a formless being blocked
the heaven from the earth and Brahma with many other gods trapped him to the
ground. This incident is depicted graphically in the Vastu Purusha Mandala with
portions allocated hierarchically to each deity based on their contributions
and positions. Brahma occupied the central portion the Brahmasthana- and
other gods were distributed around in a concentric pattern. There are 45 gods
in all including 32 outer deities.
North- Kubera- Ruled by lord of wealth (Finance)
South- Yama- Ruled by lord of death Yama (Damaging)
East- Indra- Ruled by the solar deity- Aditya (Seeing the world)
West- Varuna- Ruled by lord of water (Physical)
Northeast {Eshanya} Ruled by Shiva
Southeast- Agni- Ruled by the fire deity Agni (Energy Generating)
Northwest- Vayu- ruled by the god of winds (Advertisement)
Southwest- Pitru/Nairutya, Niruthi- Ruled by ancestors (History)
Center- Brahma- Ruled by the creator of the universe (Desire)
The Vastu Purusha is the presiding deity of any site. Usually he is depicted as
lying on it with the head in the northeast and legs in the southwest but he
keeps changing position throughout the year.
Vastu shastra prescribes desirable characteristics for sites and buildings
based on flow of energy called Vaastu Purusha. The morning sun is considered
especially beneficial and purifying however the sun does not play a specific
role in the Vaastu shastras. In fact it is not mentioned in the texts. None of
the heavenly bodies are mentioned in the Vaastu Shastras hence they are not
considered in the proper application of Vaastu principles.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jun 5, 2012, at 9:16 AM, salyavin808 wrote: That's according to the weird rules that those iron- age sun worshipping folks lived by anyway. I'd have mine in the middle of the house as it's somewhere to leave my bike. I placed a Siberian fireplace in my Bramasthan and it works great at keeping the whole house warm since it's so centrally placed. Have you wondered why you are aging so quickly ? :-)
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 06/04/2012 11:54 AM, Dick Mays wrote: Vastu Cabin! After several months of building it was so fulfilling to show you the finished product and hear your feedback. I'm writing to you today to share our website and facebook page. Like our Facebook page to keep posted on new Vastu Cabin developments! Please enjoy the photos and share with your friends. www.VastuCabin.com www.facebook.com/vastucabin That's cool. There is a trend towards smaller homes and those would be very popular and affordable. But I bet many communities might ban them as the effete would consider them low brow and demeaning to their monster homes. The banks probably won't finance them either. My neighbor, a real estate agent, tells me the builders around here are still stuck on building big homes whereas the public is becoming more interested in centralized communities where you can walk to everything including work. They tried to get those going in the 1990s but it didn't seem to go anywhere. It's a nice little cabin. But the cabin does not appear to have a bramasthan, or an atrium in the middle of the house. Perhaps due to its small size, there's a vastu exception to the rule. There sure is, the brahmasthan doesn't have to be inside the house as it denotes the centre of the plot with the fortune fence as the boundary. That's according to the weird rules that those iron- age sun worshipping folks lived by anyway. I'd have mine in the middle of the house as it's somewhere to leave my bike. Salyavin, You would be defeating the purpose of the brahmasthan. It represents the connection of the cosmos to the home. Hence, the house gets the support from nature.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jun 5, 2012, at 9:16 AM, salyavin808 wrote: That's according to the weird rules that those iron- age sun worshipping folks lived by anyway. I'd have mine in the middle of the house as it's somewhere to leave my bike. I placed a Siberian fireplace in my Bramasthan and it works great at keeping the whole house warm since it's so centrally placed. You are violating one of the most important principles in vastu. You may not be able to get the support from nature.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
On 06/04/2012 11:54 AM, Dick Mays wrote:
Vastu Cabin! After several months of building it was so fulfilling to
show you the finished product and hear your feedback.
I'm writing to you today to share our website and facebook page. Like
our Facebook page to keep posted on new Vastu Cabin developments!
Please enjoy the photos and share with your friends.
www.VastuCabin.com
www.facebook.com/vastucabin
That's cool. There is a trend towards smaller homes and those would be
very popular and affordable. But I bet many communities might ban them
as the effete would consider them low brow and demeaning to their
monster homes. The banks probably won't finance them either. My
neighbor, a real estate agent, tells me the builders around here are
still stuck on building big homes whereas the public is becoming more
interested in centralized communities where you can walk to everything
including work. They tried to get those going in the 1990s but it didn't
seem to go anywhere.
It's a nice little cabin. But the cabin does not appear to have a
bramasthan, or an atrium in the middle of the house. Perhaps due to its
small size, there's a vastu exception to the rule.
There sure is, the brahmasthan doesn't have to be inside
the house as it denotes the centre of the plot with
the fortune fence as the boundary.
That's according to the weird rules that those iron-
age sun worshipping folks lived by anyway. I'd have
mine in the middle of the house as it's somewhere
to leave my bike.
I wonder how much one could sell a vastu tent for? Hiking, mountain climbing.
Have a hell of a time trying to find the 'right place' to set it up.
When I looked up Vastu on the Internet, the first thing that came up was a
contemorary furniture store 'an old name for a new way of living'.
From Wikipedia:
The legend of the Vastu Purusha is related thus. Once a formless being
blocked the heaven from the earth and Brahma with many other gods trapped him
to the ground. This incident is depicted graphically in the Vastu Purusha
Mandala with portions allocated hierarchically to each deity based on their
contributions and positions. Brahma occupied the central portion the
Brahmasthana- and other gods were distributed around in a concentric pattern.
There are 45 gods in all including 32 outer deities.
North- Kubera- Ruled by lord of wealth (Finance)
South- Yama- Ruled by lord of death Yama (Damaging)
East- Indra- Ruled by the solar deity- Aditya (Seeing the world)
West- Varuna- Ruled by lord of water (Physical)
Northeast {Eshanya} Ruled by Shiva
Southeast- Agni- Ruled by the fire deity Agni (Energy Generating)
Northwest- Vayu- ruled by the god of winds (Advertisement)
Southwest- Pitru/Nairutya, Niruthi- Ruled by ancestors (History)
Center- Brahma- Ruled by the creator of the universe (Desire)
The Vastu Purusha is the presiding deity of any site. Usually he is depicted
as lying on it with the head in the northeast and legs in the southwest but
he keeps changing position throughout the year.
Vastu shastra prescribes desirable characteristics for sites and buildings
based on flow of energy called Vaastu Purusha. The morning sun is considered
especially beneficial and purifying however the sun does not play a specific
role in the Vaastu shastras. In fact it is not mentioned in the texts. None
of the heavenly bodies are mentioned in the Vaastu Shastras hence they are
not considered in the proper application of Vaastu principles.
Xeno,
FYI, the grahas are very much employed in vastu. Here are the designations:
Jupiter--Northeast
Sun--East
Venus--Southeast
South--South
Rahu--Southwest
Saturn--West
Mercury--Northwest
Moon--North
There are more details involved. But that would take a full course in vastu.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 06/04/2012 11:54 AM, Dick Mays wrote: Vastu Cabin! After several months of building it was so fulfilling to show you the finished product and hear your feedback. I'm writing to you today to share our website and facebook page. Like our Facebook page to keep posted on new Vastu Cabin developments! Please enjoy the photos and share with your friends. www.VastuCabin.com www.facebook.com/vastucabin That's cool. There is a trend towards smaller homes and those would be very popular and affordable. But I bet many communities might ban them as the effete would consider them low brow and demeaning to their monster homes. The banks probably won't finance them either. My neighbor, a real estate agent, tells me the builders around here are still stuck on building big homes whereas the public is becoming more interested in centralized communities where you can walk to everything including work. They tried to get those going in the 1990s but it didn't seem to go anywhere. It's a nice little cabin. But the cabin does not appear to have a bramasthan, or an atrium in the middle of the house. Perhaps due to its small size, there's a vastu exception to the rule. There sure is, the brahmasthan doesn't have to be inside the house as it denotes the centre of the plot with the fortune fence as the boundary. That's according to the weird rules that those iron- age sun worshipping folks lived by anyway. I'd have mine in the middle of the house as it's somewhere to leave my bike. Salyavin, You would be defeating the purpose of the brahmasthan. It represents the connection of the cosmos to the home. Hence, the house gets the support from nature. You're right I would be defeating the purpose of it but that's where we differ: I have never seen even the tiniest, remotest iota that there is such a thing as nature support at least in the woo-woo way, I suppose the term could mean not tripping over the bike in the dark and thus getting the support of not having a broken head but all this one way to live perfectly stuff is beyond me I'm afraid.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: snip It's a nice little cabin. But the cabin does not appear to have a brahmasthan, or an atrium in the middle of the house. Perhaps due to its small size, there's a vastu exception to the rule. There sure is, the brahmasthan doesn't have to be inside the house as it denotes the centre of the plot with the fortune fence as the boundary. That's according to the weird rules that those iron- age sun worshipping folks lived by anyway. I'd have mine in the middle of the house as it's somewhere to leave my bike. Salyavin, You would be defeating the purpose of the brahmasthan. It represents the connection of the cosmos to the home. Hence, the house gets the support from nature. If a brahmasthan only represents the connexion of a home to the cosmos, it is not going to do anything. It actually would have, in this hypothesis, to be a direct connexion to the cosmos to have some kind of effect. What that connexion is is not specified, or how it might work. How does what is basically an empty space or a hole affect the universe? Once in talking with an architect who wrote a book on various home styles around the world, I was told that the brahmasthan and this style of architecture was only used for temples, not homes; the ordinary people lived in non-sthapatyaveda domiciles. The idea of a brahmasthan is it represents consciousness as in brahman consciousness. The person, that is, the ego isn't there, there is a hole inside the person where where the ego and sense of selfdom was. There is no entity there, consciousness is seamless from inside to outside to the ends of the world. So where 'you' used to be is just hollow. Yet because there is a body there, everything surrounds this hollowed out shell of where the former you used to be. A brahmasthan is a physical representation of that - a hollow in the centre of the house or property, and the idea is a person doesn't walk through it because it does not represent the personal. Still people put junk in it, like a table with a flower vase on it, to keep people - that is, the personal - from walking into it. It is symbolic. If you manage to get yourself into brahman consciousness, or whatever you want to call it, you have a brahmasthan, the only important one, and it is everywhere where you are; you don't need a house. The body is your house. Work on removing the trash in the centre. Now that is a vastu tiny house.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
snip The body is your house. Work on removing the trash in the centre. I have actually started saving some of the gems that Xeno writes. Love this. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 12:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: snip It's a nice little cabin. But the cabin does not appear to have a brahmasthan, or an atrium in the middle of the house. Perhaps due to its small size, there's a vastu exception to the rule. There sure is, the brahmasthan doesn't have to be inside the house as it denotes the centre of the plot with the fortune fence as the boundary. That's according to the weird rules that those iron- age sun worshipping folks lived by anyway. I'd have mine in the middle of the house as it's somewhere to leave my bike. Salyavin, You would be defeating the purpose of the brahmasthan. It represents the connection of the cosmos to the home. Hence, the house gets the support from nature. If a brahmasthan only represents the connexion of a home to the cosmos, it is not going to do anything. It actually would have, in this hypothesis, to be a direct connexion to the cosmos to have some kind of effect. What that connexion is is not specified, or how it might work. How does what is basically an empty space or a hole affect the universe? Once in talking with an architect who wrote a book on various home styles around the world, I was told that the brahmasthan and this style of architecture was only used for temples, not homes; the ordinary people lived in non-sthapatyaveda domiciles. The idea of a brahmasthan is it represents consciousness as in brahman consciousness. The person, that is, the ego isn't there, there is a hole inside the person where where the ego and sense of selfdom was. There is no entity there, consciousness is seamless from inside to outside to the ends of the world. So where 'you' used to be is just hollow. Yet because there is a body there, everything surrounds this hollowed out shell of where the former you used to be. A brahmasthan is a physical representation of that - a hollow in the centre of the house or property, and the idea is a person doesn't walk through it because it does not represent the personal. Still people put junk in it, like a table with a flower vase on it, to keep people - that is, the personal - from walking into it. It is symbolic. If you manage to get yourself into brahman consciousness, or whatever you want to call it, you have a brahmasthan, the only important one, and it is everywhere where you are; you don't need a house. The body is your house. Work on removing the trash in the centre. Now that is a vastu tiny house.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Xeno, FYI, the grahas are very much employed in vastu. Here are the designations: Jupiter--Northeast Sun--East Venus--Southeast South--South Rahu--Southwest Saturn--West Mercury--Northwest Moon--North There are more details involved. But that would take a full course in vastu. I was just quoting from a Wikipedia page, which mentioned these things were not mentioned in certain writings on the subject. I know very little about the details of this system or whether there are significant variations and multiple systems of sthapatyaveda. I have always regarded astrology as a pseudoscience, that is, simply untrue, with random, uncorrelated connexions with the world, and making no sense whatsoever. And sthapatyaveda does not make much sense either.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: snip It's a nice little cabin. But the cabin does not appear to have a brahmasthan, or an atrium in the middle of the house. Perhaps due to its small size, there's a vastu exception to the rule. There sure is, the brahmasthan doesn't have to be inside the house as it denotes the centre of the plot with the fortune fence as the boundary. That's according to the weird rules that those iron- age sun worshipping folks lived by anyway. I'd have mine in the middle of the house as it's somewhere to leave my bike. Salyavin, You would be defeating the purpose of the brahmasthan. It represents the connection of the cosmos to the home. Hence, the house gets the support from nature. If a brahmasthan only represents the connexion of a home to the cosmos, it is not going to do anything. It actually would have, in this hypothesis, to be a direct connexion to the cosmos to have some kind of effect. What that connexion is is not specified, or how it might work. How does what is basically an empty space or a hole affect the universe? Once in talking with an architect who wrote a book on various home styles around the world, I was told that the brahmasthan and this style of architecture was only used for temples, not homes; the ordinary people lived in non-sthapatyaveda domiciles. The idea of a brahmasthan is it represents consciousness as in brahman consciousness. The person, that is, the ego isn't there, there is a hole inside the person where where the ego and sense of selfdom was. There is no entity there, consciousness is seamless from inside to outside to the ends of the world. So where 'you' used to be is just hollow. Yet because there is a body there, everything surrounds this hollowed out shell of where the former you used to be. A brahmasthan is a physical representation of that - a hollow in the centre of the house or property, and the idea is a person doesn't walk through it because it does not represent the personal. Still people put junk in it, like a table with a flower vase on it, to keep people - that is, the personal - from walking into it. It is symbolic. If you manage to get yourself into brahman consciousness, or whatever you want to call it, you have a brahmasthan, the only important one, and it is everywhere where you are; you don't need a house. The body is your house. Work on removing the trash in the centre. Now that is a vastu tiny house. This is an interesting description - did you get this from the TMO or from your own mind? Sometimes symbolic or visual images help to change us, I think. Some of the new research suggests that imagining doing something activates the same brain areas involved when you actually perform the action. When I watch ballet in person I feel taller and more in touch with my own body positions. And cognitive behavioral therapy assumes that intentionally changing thoughts or even facial expressions affects the brain and our mood (ie smiling even when not happy will lift your mood). So perhaps the whole brahmastan in the home idea is another technique to remind us of this nonself, of consciousness. MMY also suggested looking at a Vedic Observatory model as a means of stimulating something (not sure what) in awareness. I tried it a few times but never felt anything different.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: If a brahmasthan only represents the connexion of a home to the cosmos, it is not going to do anything. It actually would have, in this hypothesis, to be a direct connexion to the cosmos to have some kind of effect. What that connexion is is not specified, or how it might work. How does what is basically an empty space or a hole affect the universe? Once in talking with an architect who wrote a book on various home styles around the world, I was told that the brahmasthan and this style of architecture was only used for temples, not homes; the ordinary people lived in non-sthapatyaveda domiciles. The idea of a brahmasthan is it represents consciousness as in brahman consciousness. The person, that is, the ego isn't there, there is a hole inside the person where where the ego and sense of selfdom was. There is no entity there, consciousness is seamless from inside to outside to the ends of the world. So where 'you' used to be is just hollow. Yet because there is a body there, everything surrounds this hollowed out shell of where the former you used to be. A brahmasthan is a physical representation of that - a hollow in the centre of the house or property, and the idea is a person doesn't walk through it because it does not represent the personal. Still people put junk in it, like a table with a flower vase on it, to keep people - that is, the personal - from walking into it. It is symbolic. If you manage to get yourself into brahman consciousness, or whatever you want to call it, you have a brahmasthan, the only important one, and it is everywhere where you are; you don't need a house. The body is your house. Work on removing the trash in the centre. Now that is a vastu tiny house. This is an interesting description - did you get this from the TMO or from your own mind? Sometimes symbolic or visual images help to change us, I think. Some of the new research suggests that imagining doing something activates the same brain areas involved when you actually perform the action. When I watch ballet in person I feel taller and more in touch with my own body positions. And cognitive behavioral therapy assumes that intentionally changing thoughts or even facial expressions affects the brain and our mood (ie smiling even when not happy will lift your mood). So perhaps the whole brahmastan in the home idea is another technique to remind us of this nonself, of consciousness. MMY also suggested looking at a Vedic Observatory model as a means of stimulating something (not sure what) in awareness. I tried it a few times but never felt anything different. I got this from my own mind, but it occurred to me while being in people's homes using this design. I think your analysis of this is relevant. MMY said a lot of things which, on the surface, may have been quite different from what he meant, and that someday he was hoping people would realise within themselves what it is he was really talking about.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: I got this from my own mind, but it occurred to me while being in people's homes using this design. I think your analysis of this is relevant. MMY said a lot of things which, on the surface, may have been quite different from what he meant, and that someday he was hoping people would realise within themselves what it is he was really talking about. Interesting comment. To your last point Maharishi also said that it would take 300 years for mankind to understand his message. One scientist is now finding out a part of MMY's ideas. Specifically, Leonard Susskind from Stanford has delivered a lecture to point out that the universe is a hologram. In effect, this idea corroborates MMY's ideas that the human brain is the manifestation of the entire universe on earth. Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DIl3Hfh9tY
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: snip It's a nice little cabin. But the cabin does not appear to have a brahmasthan, or an atrium in the middle of the house. Perhaps due to its small size, there's a vastu exception to the rule. There sure is, the brahmasthan doesn't have to be inside the house as it denotes the centre of the plot with the fortune fence as the boundary. That's according to the weird rules that those iron- age sun worshipping folks lived by anyway. I'd have mine in the middle of the house as it's somewhere to leave my bike. Salyavin, You would be defeating the purpose of the brahmasthan. It represents the connection of the cosmos to the home. Hence, the house gets the support from nature. If a brahmasthan only represents the connexion of a home to the cosmos, it is not going to do anything. It actually would have, in this hypothesis, to be a direct connexion to the cosmos to have some kind of effect. What that connexion is is not specified, or how it might work. How does what is basically an empty space or a hole affect the universe? Once in talking with an architect who wrote a book on various home styles around the world, I was told that the brahmasthan and this style of architecture was only used for temples, not homes; the ordinary people lived in non-sthapatyaveda domiciles. The idea of a brahmasthan is it represents consciousness as in brahman consciousness. The person, that is, the ego isn't there, there is a hole inside the person where where the ego and sense of selfdom was. There is no entity there, consciousness is seamless from inside to outside to the ends of the world. So where 'you' used to be is just hollow. Yet because there is a body there, everything surrounds this hollowed out shell of where the former you used to be. A brahmasthan is a physical representation of that - a hollow in the centre of the house or property, and the idea is a person doesn't walk through it because it does not represent the personal. Still people put junk in it, like a table with a flower vase on it, to keep people - that is, the personal - from walking into it. It is symbolic. If you manage to get yourself into brahman consciousness, or whatever you want to call it, you have a brahmasthan, the only important one, and it is everywhere where you are; you don't need a house. The body is your house. Work on removing the trash in the centre. Now that is a vastu tiny house. Xeno, You got the analogy correct. As a matter of fact, MMY recommended that people face east while working or making important decisions. This alignment is to ensure that a person gets the support of nature in all of his endeavors. Go on then, what is the mechanism for a brain making better decisions if it faces in this particular direction. The direction of the rising sun isn't going to impress me much as it only does that on two days of the year. I suspect it's one of those things that'll take 300 years before anyone agrees with it; society is bound to collapse back into a more ignorant superstitious state sooner or later ;-) Similarly, MMY recommended two alignments (north and east) that are beneficial during sleep. All the other alignments are not recommended.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
Eh all cows in the world tend to sleep with their heads aligned north. Perhaps ancient Indians noticed this and created an entire mythos around the phenomenon? Or perhaps there's some real explanation for both vastu and astrological traditions? http://xenophilius.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/unexplained-all-cows-everywhere-simultaneously-face-north-or-south-while-eating/ Humans enjoy extrapolating. In palm-reading, there's a crease in the hand associated with how smart you are. Turns out that mongoloids don't have this crease. Another extrapolation? L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Xeno, FYI, the grahas are very much employed in vastu. Here are the designations: Jupiter--Northeast Sun--East Venus--Southeast South--South Rahu--Southwest Saturn--West Mercury--Northwest Moon--North There are more details involved. But that would take a full course in vastu. I was just quoting from a Wikipedia page, which mentioned these things were not mentioned in certain writings on the subject. I know very little about the details of this system or whether there are significant variations and multiple systems of sthapatyaveda. I have always regarded astrology as a pseudoscience, that is, simply untrue, with random, uncorrelated connexions with the world, and making no sense whatsoever. And sthapatyaveda does not make much sense either.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: If a brahmasthan only represents the connexion of a home to the cosmos, it is not going to do anything. It actually would have, in this hypothesis, to be a direct connexion to the cosmos to have some kind of effect. What that connexion is is not specified, or how it might work. How does what is basically an empty space or a hole affect the universe? Once in talking with an architect who wrote a book on various home styles around the world, I was told that the brahmasthan and this style of architecture was only used for temples, not homes; the ordinary people lived in non-sthapatyaveda domiciles. The idea of a brahmasthan is it represents consciousness as in brahman consciousness. The person, that is, the ego isn't there, there is a hole inside the person where where the ego and sense of selfdom was. There is no entity there, consciousness is seamless from inside to outside to the ends of the world. So where 'you' used to be is just hollow. Yet because there is a body there, everything surrounds this hollowed out shell of where the former you used to be. A brahmasthan is a physical representation of that - a hollow in the centre of the house or property, and the idea is a person doesn't walk through it because it does not represent the personal. Still people put junk in it, like a table with a flower vase on it, to keep people - that is, the personal - from walking into it. It is symbolic. If you manage to get yourself into brahman consciousness, or whatever you want to call it, you have a brahmasthan, the only important one, and it is everywhere where you are; you don't need a house. The body is your house. Work on removing the trash in the centre. Now that is a vastu tiny house. This is an interesting description - did you get this from the TMO or from your own mind? Sometimes symbolic or visual images help to change us, I think. Some of the new research suggests that imagining doing something activates the same brain areas involved when you actually perform the action. When I watch ballet in person I feel taller and more in touch with my own body positions. And cognitive behavioral therapy assumes that intentionally changing thoughts or even facial expressions affects the brain and our mood (ie smiling even when not happy will lift your mood). So perhaps the whole brahmastan in the home idea is another technique to remind us of this nonself, of consciousness. MMY also suggested looking at a Vedic Observatory model as a means of stimulating something (not sure what) in awareness. I tried it a few times but never felt anything different. I got this from my own mind, but it occurred to me while being in people's homes using this design. I think your analysis of this is relevant. MMY said a lot of things which, on the surface, may have been quite different from what he meant, and that someday he was hoping people would realise within themselves what it is he was really talking about. I think so, too. In fact, that is pretty much how I have rationalized some of the odder aspects of things MMY has said, even the crowns and rajas thing: that it might trigger something within the observer that helps in shedding the self. I hear that Ammachi does something called Devi Bhava -I am told that she dresses up as Mother Divine - glittering outfit, celestial image. Aside from whatever darhsan she might radiate, I have always assumed that simply seeing her Mother Divine image was to lift the awareness (stimulate the nervous system via the visual sense) of the the viewee in some way that might make transcending happen. Even reading fairy tales, as an adult, I get a strong sense of the underlying lessons that seem universal, rather than just limited to my culture. Same with opera and ballet stories. And some music. While I love this sensation and the expansive feeling I get, I do sometimes realize that it is all just another story being told. Maybe some stories are easier to let go of than others, so we keep replacing a heavier story with lighter and lighter ones as we grow. Someday someone will measure all of this - and what helps the brain and what does not.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: I got this from my own mind, but it occurred to me while being in people's homes using this design. I think your analysis of this is relevant. MMY said a lot of things which, on the surface, may have been quite different from what he meant, and that someday he was hoping people would realise within themselves what it is he was really talking about. Interesting comment. To your last point Maharishi also said that it would take 300 years for mankind to understand his message. One scientist is now finding out a part of MMY's ideas. Specifically, Leonard Susskind from Stanford has delivered a lecture to point out that the universe is a hologram. In effect, this idea corroborates MMY's ideas that the human brain is the manifestation of the entire universe on earth. Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DIl3Hfh9tY The author Michael Talbot wrote The Holographic Universe some years ago, and at least a few other physicists have independently arrived at the same idea. Really, things in this universe are amazing. There are mysteries to be solved.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: [...] I think so, too. In fact, that is pretty much how I have rationalized some of the odder aspects of things MMY has said, even the crowns and rajas thing: that it might trigger something within the observer that helps in shedding the self. My own take is that there are at least three things going on: 1) dressing up in a crown is silly. It is a litmus test of loyalty to allow yourself to be dressed up that way. 2) it visually reminds others that you ARE in charge. 3) it goes along with MMY's belief in divine kingship. L
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: I got this from my own mind, but it occurred to me while being in people's homes using this design. I think your analysis of this is relevant. MMY said a lot of things which, on the surface, may have been quite different from what he meant, and that someday he was hoping people would realise within themselves what it is he was really talking about. Interesting comment. To your last point Maharishi also said that it would take 300 years for mankind to understand his message. One scientist is now finding out a part of MMY's ideas. Specifically, Leonard Susskind from Stanford has delivered a lecture to point out that the universe is a hologram. In effect, this idea corroborates MMY's ideas that the human brain is the manifestation of the entire universe on earth. Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DIl3Hfh9tY The author Michael Talbot wrote The Holographic Universe some years ago, and at least a few other physicists have independently arrived at the same idea. Really, things in this universe are amazing. There are mysteries to be solved. Susan, Yes, indeed. Susskind is an excellent teacher of physics. He tends to make theories that have wide ranging applications from technology to philosophy and religion. In this particular lecture, he appears to be implying that it is possible to determine what happened before the Big Bang, and what will happen to the universe eons from now. From what I can gather, the information that is present now existed before the Bang, and the same information will be frozen in time in the future. So, the speculation goes on.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: snip It's a nice little cabin. But the cabin does not appear to have a brahmasthan, or an atrium in the middle of the house. Perhaps due to its small size, there's a vastu exception to the rule. There sure is, the brahmasthan doesn't have to be inside the house as it denotes the centre of the plot with the fortune fence as the boundary. That's according to the weird rules that those iron- age sun worshipping folks lived by anyway. I'd have mine in the middle of the house as it's somewhere to leave my bike. Salyavin, You would be defeating the purpose of the brahmasthan. It represents the connection of the cosmos to the home. Hence, the house gets the support from nature. If a brahmasthan only represents the connexion of a home to the cosmos, it is not going to do anything. It actually would have, in this hypothesis, to be a direct connexion to the cosmos to have some kind of effect. What that connexion is is not specified, or how it might work. How does what is basically an empty space or a hole affect the universe? Once in talking with an architect who wrote a book on various home styles around the world, I was told that the brahmasthan and this style of architecture was only used for temples, not homes; the ordinary people lived in non-sthapatyaveda domiciles. The idea of a brahmasthan is it represents consciousness as in brahman consciousness. The person, that is, the ego isn't there, there is a hole inside the person where where the ego and sense of selfdom was. There is no entity there, consciousness is seamless from inside to outside to the ends of the world. So where 'you' used to be is just hollow. Yet because there is a body there, everything surrounds this hollowed out shell of where the former you used to be. A brahmasthan is a physical representation of that - a hollow in the centre of the house or property, and the idea is a person doesn't walk through it because it does not represent the personal. Still people put junk in it, like a table with a flower vase on it, to keep people - that is, the personal - from walking into it. It is symbolic. If you manage to get yourself into brahman consciousness, or whatever you want to call it, you have a brahmasthan, the only important one, and it is everywhere where you are; you don't need a house. The body is your house. Work on removing the trash in the centre. Now that is a vastu tiny house. Xeno, You got the analogy correct. As a matter of fact, MMY recommended that people face east while working or making important decisions. This alignment is to ensure that a person gets the support of nature in all of his endeavors. Go on then, what is the mechanism for a brain making better decisions if it faces in this particular direction. The direction of the rising sun isn't going to impress me much as it only does that on two days of the year. I suspect it's one of those things that'll take 300 years before anyone agrees with it; society is bound to collapse back into a more ignorant superstitious state sooner or later ;-) The Sun rises from the east everyday of the year. IMO, MMY is saying that the human brain works better with this alignment due to the earth's magnetic polarity. It's also symbolic since the Sun is considered to be a deity in the vedic culture.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vastu tiny house
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 06/04/2012 11:54 AM, Dick Mays wrote: Vastu Cabin! After several months of building it was so fulfilling to show you the finished product and hear your feedback. I'm writing to you today to share our website and facebook page. Like our Facebook page to keep posted on new Vastu Cabin developments! Please enjoy the photos and share with your friends. www.VastuCabin.com www.facebook.com/vastucabin That's cool. There is a trend towards smaller homes and those would be very popular and affordable. But I bet many communities might ban them as the effete would consider them low brow and demeaning to their monster homes. The banks probably won't finance them either. My neighbor, a real estate agent, tells me the builders around here are still stuck on building big homes whereas the public is becoming more interested in centralized communities where you can walk to everything including work. They tried to get those going in the 1990s but it didn't seem to go anywhere. It's a nice little cabin. But the cabin does not appear to have a bramasthan, or an atrium in the middle of the house. Perhaps due to its small size, there's a vastu exception to the rule.
