[FairfieldLife] Re: What could he have said or done?
llundrub wrote: Success for me is having my health to sit by my wife and watch TV during a few hours off from work, where I call the shots and get respect for being an artist. So, you watched TV last night.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What could he have said or done?
Yeah, A maricon Idol, and had 24 taped, love that show. Then watched the season finale of 'Dirt.' Really liked that too. Will watch 'The Shield' next week. That show is so realistic acting wise that it radiates actual bad vibes. The Devil is in the media again. I guess he must exist, or the Pope wouldn't keep talking about him. -Original Message- From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:14 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What could he have said or done? llundrub wrote: Success for me is having my health to sit by my wife and watch TV during a few hours off from work, where I call the shots and get respect for being an artist. So, you watched TV last night. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: What could he have said or done?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip There are *thousands* of things that Maharishi could have done or said to prevent the situation he finds himself in now. But those things would have involved true humility on his part and a desire to actually help the people of the world (as opposed to a desire to make money by announcing his intention to help the people of the world and then sitting back and collecting checks from the faithful). And we know that MMY doesn't believe (rightly or wrongly) that what he's been doing will help the people of the world exactly how? Does the fact that one believes differently about what will and won't help the people of the world somehow automatically mean MMY must not believe in what he's doing? But he didn't do these things, and now he finds him- self in the position of having to outsource butt- bouncers from India, because only a few hundred students in the entire world still believe him when he asks them to put their lives on hold and do what he tells them to do. There's a bit of a damned if they do, damned if they don't element here. In some contexts, TMers are mocked for putting their lives on hold and doing what MMY tells them to do. But when they don't, MMY is mocked for not being able to convince them to behave like sheep. Meanwhile, the people who can cut the *biggest* checks are NOT butt-bouncing in Fairfield. They *still* don't even have to mingle with the great unwashed of the *TM faithful* any more. They can prance around in robes and crowns in Vlodrop and get daily strokes from the guru while these other peons do the grunt work for them. And it's all covered under codicil 371.3 of Natural Law, which says, He who cuts the biggest check gets the most strokes, and achieves enlightenment first. Plus, he gets to wear robes and a Burger King crown. What could Maharishi have done to avoid this sad, sad, sad situation? He could have valued people more than money. I find this a little puzzling, because from everything I've read, many if not most of the rajas are not holed up at Vlodrop at all but are very busy in their own countries carrying out all kinds of projects that would involve lots of interaction with the great unwashed--not just of the TM faithful but with non-TMers as well. If we want to determine what MMY could have done to avoid the current situation, we need to have an accurate picture of what the situation *is*. Otherwise we're jousting with a straw man.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What could he have said or done?
What could he have said or done otherwise to get this going with his old TM'er movement? What went wrong for Maharishi? Nothing went wrong for Maharishi. He himself says that he is very fulfilled. Are you in a position to claim that this is untrue ? Anyway, Maharishi is sending 1000 Pundits to that country and is funding it. Not exactly a failure, in my opinion. If anyone is a failure it is the thousands of meditators/Sidhas/Governors who never really took Maharishi very serious and found his demand for Tapas to be too demanding. But then again that is their karma. Nothing wrong with that, it is just the way it is. It happened to all the Saints that came to the West and will continue to happen.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What could he have said or done?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are *thousands* of things that Maharishi could have done or said to prevent the situation he finds himself in now. But those things would have involved true humility on his part and a desire to actually help the people of the world (as opposed to a desire to make money by announcing his intention to help the people of the world and then sitting back and collecting checks from the faithful). But he didn't do these things, and now he finds him- self in the position of having to outsource butt- bouncers from India, because only a few hundred students in the entire world still believe him when he asks them to put their lives on hold and do what he tells them to do. Is it not about spiritual regeneration, of the world? Someone say it isn't so. It's about money? Did he start off with a good heart and may be fell off the wagon somewhere along the line? Did that corruption of a good soul happen with those western women he fell head over heels for since early on or that lavishing wealth that he was kept with pretty much from the beginning of coming to the West? Just like with Adam in the garden, it most evidently was the women probably that undid him? Or the money? Has the Spriritual Regeneration Movement always been a pre-text MO for a sub-text about money and its transport? -Doug in FF
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strong commentary on the predicament of Maharishi at the end. Where did his meditators go? Used to be thousands would show up on a phone call. Now, a few hundreds? What could he have said or done otherwise to get this going with his old TM'er movement? What went wrong for Maharishi? (To the tune of Where Have All The Flowers Gone) Where have all the flyers gone Long time not ho op ping Where have all the flyers gone Long time ago Where have all the flyers gone Gone to other pursuits everyone I guess they finally learned I guess they fi inaly learned Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 From: Raja Wynne maillist@ Subject: Vedic Pandit Update #3 [Global Country of World Peace] Dear Supporters of Permanent Invincibility for America, I wanted to let you know that 133 more Vedic Pandits from India will be arriving next week and settling into their new campus in Maharishi Vedic City. That will make a total of 505 Vedic Pandits here contributing to creating an invincible America through their Yogic Flying and Vedic routine. According to the plan I have mentioned before, another 500 Pandits will be arriving over the next few months, bringing the total here to 1,000. This number of Pandits will assure that there will always be more than the Super Radiance number of 1732 Yogic Flyers necessary to maintain permanent invincibility for America. The new Pandit campus in Maharishi Vedic City is now ready to take this next group of 133, and homes for another 100 Pandits will be ready for occupancy in April. Now that the weather is improving, we should be able to accommodate the remaining 400 new Pandits shortly after that. Below are photos of the recently completed dining room and program hall on the new campus, and a photo of a typical Pandit bedroom. [Photo1] New Pandit dining room [Photo2] Flying hall on new Pandit campus[Photo2] Typical Pandit bedroom In order to complete the housing for the remaining 400 Pandits we continue to need your assistance. Once they are here, their monthly expenses are covered, like for all Invincible America Assembly grant participants, with a $600 per month grant from the Howard and Alice Settle Foundation for an Invincible America. But the cost of constructing housing for the Pandits, and other costs like airfare and visa costs, are not covered by the grant. We currently have a matching grant from a donor for $100,000, so now is a doubly good time to make a contribution for the Pandit housing. Please go to either Global Country of World Peace http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.451217/it.A/id.9/.f or Maharishi Vedic City https://vediccity.securesites.com/contribute/contribution.cgi to make a secure online contribution, or send a check to Global Country of World Peace 2000 Capital Boulevard, Maharishi Vedic City, IA 52556, or City Hall, 1973 Grand Drive, Maharishi Vedic City, IA 52556. If you have any questions or would like an update, please call 800 373 9664. Thank you very much for helping to secure a peaceful and prosperous America for yourself, your family, and the nation. Jai Guru Dev. Raja Wynne Mayor of Maharishi Vedic City and Raja of Maharishi Vedic America
[FairfieldLife] Re: What could he have said or done?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What could Maharishi have done or said to bring meditators back to the domes and group meditation, to get the numbers needed, even way back last summer when this latest TM course started? Is interesting that even with even with paying people to meditate, bringing by the hundreds hire-ling student pandits from India, giving the sidhi's away in exchange for practicing in the domes, they can not get the numbers in the dome. According to the plan I (Raja W.) have mentioned before, another 500 Pandits will be arriving over the next few months, bringing the total here to 1,000. This number of Pandits will assure that there will always be more than the Super Radiance number of 1732 Yogic Flyers necessary to maintain permanent invincibility for America. Mayor and 'Raja' Wynne says it and confirms it all right there. Strong commentary on the predicament of Maharishi at the end. Where did his meditators go? On the whole, they followed his lead. They holed up somewhere safe and let other people worry about (and work to relieve) the problems of the world. Used to be thousands would show up on a phone call. Back when Maharishi still had an ounce of credibility, and more important, still had the ability to inspire others without bullying, scaring, or threatening them. Now, a few hundreds? What could he have said or done otherwise to get this going with his old TM'er movement? What went wrong for Maharishi? I think that those who are interested in this question might benefit from a reading of (or re-reading of) Hermann Hesse's Magister Ludi: The Glass Bead Game. It's the story of a long-term spiritual tradition falling apart because its leaders holed up inside the walls of their monastery and 1) stopped having anything to do with the unspiritual people outside the walls, 2) stopped even *listening* to these unspiritual people outside the walls, and 3) stop- ped listening to anyone who *was* inside the walls who suggested that they should do more for those outside of them. It's the story of a spiritual movement gone mad from self-indulgence and the focus on its own self-importance. As the focus shifted away from actual teaching of TM (which involves and *requires* daily interaction with the great unwashed, the people outside the walls of the ashram, the self importance of the TM movement and its core followers grew larger and larger, at the same time that the minds and the compassion of these core followers grew smaller and smaller. Cutting a check so that *other* people could interact with the great unwashed and teach TM became prefer- able to interacting with these lesser-evolved people oneself. And lo, cutting a check was rewarded with strokes from the guru, and with proximity to him. Other followers, brought up on the shining example of Trotakacharya and others who supposedly realized their enlightenment through nothing *but* proximity to the guru looked at this phenomenon and made the obvious (to them) choice. Why work our butts off in the field catering to these people who are so much less evolved than we are when we can gain proximity to the guru (and thus our own all-important enlight- enment) by simply cutting a check? And yea verily, cutting a check became the new pathway to enlight- enment. There are *thousands* of things that Maharishi could have done or said to prevent the situation he finds himself in now. But those things would have involved true humility on his part and a desire to actually help the people of the world (as opposed to a desire to make money by announcing his intention to help the people of the world and then sitting back and collecting checks from the faithful). But he didn't do these things, and now he finds him- self in the position of having to outsource butt- bouncers from India, because only a few hundred students in the entire world still believe him when he asks them to put their lives on hold and do what he tells them to do. Meanwhile, the people who can cut the *biggest* checks are NOT butt-bouncing in Fairfield. They *still* don't even have to mingle with the great unwashed of the *TM faithful* any more. They can prance around in robes and crowns in Vlodrop and get daily strokes from the guru while these other peons do the grunt work for them. And it's all covered under codicil 371.3 of Natural Law, which says, He who cuts the biggest check gets the most strokes, and achieves enlightenment first. Plus, he gets to wear robes and a Burger King crown. What could Maharishi have done to avoid this sad, sad, sad situation? He could have valued people more than money. And, like Amma or Gandhi or any of the other great teachers of the world, he could have presented an example to that world that he really
