[FairfieldLife] Re: Whatever Happened to 'We the People'?

2007-11-25 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
 Whatever Happened to 'We the People'?
 
 Lurk:
 We became wee the people.  And our handlers are pushing Wii for 
 the people to keep us distracted.  Do they French see this happening?


And, to add insult to injury, GyPSee is now GyPSii!  :(



[FairfieldLife] Re: Whatever Happened to 'We the People'?

2007-11-24 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Whatever Happened to 'We the People'?



CALL DR. RON PAUL to revive the patient:

  [http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1363/909256900_50edce3132.jpg?v=0]




OffWorld






 By Thom Hartmann
 Alternet, November 23, 2007
 http://www.alternet.org/story/67944/


 We the people

 The traditional American liberal story is the story of We the People.

 As Americans, the most important part of our social identity is our
 role as citizens. To be a citizen means to be part of, and a defender
 of, the commons of our nation. The water we drink, the air we breathe,
 the streets we drive on, the schools that we use, the departments that
 protect us -- these are all the physical commons.

 And there are also the cultural commons -- the stories we tell
 ourselves, our histories, our religions, and our notions of ourselves.
 And there are the commons of our power systems (in the majority of
 American communities), our health-care system (stolen from us and
 privatized over the past twenty-five years, our hospitals in
 particular used to be mostly nonprofit or run by mostly city or county
 governments), and the electronic commons of our radio and TV spectrum
 and the Internet.

 Most important for citizenship is the commons of government -- the
 creation and the servant of We the People.

 Franklin D. Roosevelt understood this commons. In his Four Freedoms
 speech, he said, Necessitous men are not free men. Hungry people
 aren't free people, no matter what you want to call them. Hungry
 people can't be good citizens: they're too busy taking care of the
 hungry part of themselves to care about the citizen part.


 ~~ Republicans don't want to fund FDR's social safety net
 because they fundamentally do not believe in the concept of We the
 People collectively protecting all of us in anything other than a
 military/police way. They don't believe that the rabble should run
 the country. They want big corporations to run the commons of our
 nation, and they think that the most appropriate role for citizens is
 that of infantilized consumers -- of both commercial products and
 commercially produced political packaging. ~~


 This is the fundamental debate in our society: Are we a nation of
 citizens or a nation of consumers? Are we a democracy run by citizens,
 or are we a corporatocracy that holds consumers locked in dependency
 by virtue of their consumption?

 Consumerism appeals to the greedy and selfish child part of us, the
 infantilized part that just wants someone else to take care of us. The
 core message of most commercials is that you are the most important
 person in the world. Commercial advertising almost never mentions
 we or us.

 What is at stake today is the very future of our democratic republic.
 If we accept an identity as fearful, infantilized consumers, we will
 be acting from our baby part and allowing corporate America and an
 increasingly authoritarian government to fill the role of a parent
part.

 The story we are told is that we should surrender all of our power to
 corporations and just let them govern us because a mystical but
 all-knowing godlike force called the free market will eventually
 solve all of our problems.

 That story fits in very well with the conservatives' other story: that
 we are children who need to be protected from evil humans; and because
 corporations are amoral and not human, they are intrinsically and
 morally superior to evil humans.

 To save democracy we must crack that code and bring back the code so
 well understood by the Founders of this nation: that we're a country
 of barn-builders, of communities, of intrinsically good people who
 work together for the common good and the common wealth.

 We begin this process by speaking to the responsible part of us, the
 part that enjoys being grown up and socially responsible.

 The story we have to tell is the story of citizenship derived from our
 best and most noble parts. It's the story of We the People.

 We talk a lot about the features of citizenship, like the right to
 vote, but we sometimes forget what the benefits are. The main benefit
 of citizenship is freedom -- not freedom from external or internal
 dangers (although that is included in the package, it's only one of
 the six purposes listed in the Preamble to the Constitution) that
 conservatives obsess on, but freedom to think as we want, to pray as
 we want, to say what we want, and to live as we want to fulfill our
 true potential as humans (the other five things listed in the
Preamble).

 The question, ultimately, is whether our nation will continue to stand
 for the values on which it was founded.

 Early American conservatives suggested that democracy was so
 ultimately weak it couldn't withstand the assault of newspaper editors
 and citizens who spoke out against it, leading John Adams (our second
 president and our first conservative president) to pass America's
 first Military 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Whatever Happened to 'We the People'?

2007-11-24 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Whatever Happened to 'We the People'?


Call Dr. Ron Paul to revive the patient:

http://tinyurl.com/2frtdf

OffWorld


 
 By Thom Hartmann
 Alternet, November 23, 2007
 http://www.alternet.org/story/67944/
 
 
 We the people
 
 The traditional American liberal story is the story of We the 
People.
 
 As Americans, the most important part of our social identity is our
 role as citizens. To be a citizen means to be part of, and a 
defender
 of, the commons of our nation. The water we drink, the air we 
breathe,
 the streets we drive on, the schools that we use, the departments 
that
 protect us -- these are all the physical commons.
 
 And there are also the cultural commons -- the stories we tell
 ourselves, our histories, our religions, and our notions of 
ourselves.
 And there are the commons of our power systems (in the majority of
 American communities), our health-care system (stolen from us and
 privatized over the past twenty-five years, our hospitals in
 particular used to be mostly nonprofit or run by mostly city or 
county
 governments), and the electronic commons of our radio and TV 
spectrum
 and the Internet.
 
 Most important for citizenship is the commons of government -- the
 creation and the servant of We the People.
 
 Franklin D. Roosevelt understood this commons. In his Four 
Freedoms
 speech, he said, Necessitous men are not free men. Hungry people
 aren't free people, no matter what you want to call them. Hungry
 people can't be good citizens: they're too busy taking care of the
 hungry part of themselves to care about the citizen part.
 
 
  ~~  Republicans don't want to fund FDR's social safety net
 because they fundamentally do not believe in the concept of We the
 People collectively protecting all of us in anything other than a
 military/police way. They don't believe that the rabble should run
 the country. They want big corporations to run the commons of our
 nation, and they think that the most appropriate role for citizens 
is
 that of infantilized consumers -- of both commercial products and
 commercially produced political packaging.  ~~
 
 
 This is the fundamental debate in our society: Are we a nation of
 citizens or a nation of consumers? Are we a democracy run by 
citizens,
 or are we a corporatocracy that holds consumers locked in dependency
 by virtue of their consumption?
 
 Consumerism appeals to the greedy and selfish child part of us, the
 infantilized part that just wants someone else to take care of us. 
The
 core message of most commercials is that you are the most important
 person in the world. Commercial advertising almost never mentions
 we or us.
 
 What is at stake today is the very future of our democratic 
republic.
 If we accept an identity as fearful, infantilized consumers, we will
 be acting from our baby part and allowing corporate America and an
 increasingly authoritarian government to fill the role of a parent 
part.
 
 The story we are told is that we should surrender all of our power 
to
 corporations and just let them govern us because a mystical but
 all-knowing godlike force called the free market will eventually
 solve all of our problems.
 
 That story fits in very well with the conservatives' other story: 
that
 we are children who need to be protected from evil humans; and 
because
 corporations are amoral and not human, they are intrinsically and
 morally superior to evil humans.
 
 To save democracy we must crack that code and bring back the code so
 well understood by the Founders of this nation: that we're a country
 of barn-builders, of communities, of intrinsically good people who
 work together for the common good and the common wealth.
 
 We begin this process by speaking to the responsible part of us, the
 part that enjoys being grown up and socially responsible.
 
 The story we have to tell is the story of citizenship derived from 
our
 best and most noble parts. It's the story of We the People.
 
 We talk a lot about the features of citizenship, like the right to
 vote, but we sometimes forget what the benefits are. The main 
benefit
 of citizenship is freedom -- not freedom from external or internal
 dangers (although that is included in the package, it's only one of
 the six purposes listed in the Preamble to the Constitution) that
 conservatives obsess on, but freedom to think as we want, to pray as
 we want, to say what we want, and to live as we want to fulfill our
 true potential as humans (the other five things listed in the 
Preamble).
 
 The question, ultimately, is whether our nation will continue to 
stand
 for the values on which it was founded.
 
 Early American conservatives suggested that democracy was so
 ultimately weak it couldn't withstand the assault of newspaper 
editors
 and citizens who spoke out against it, leading John Adams (our 
second
 president and our first conservative president) to pass America's
 first Military 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Whatever Happened to 'We the People'?

2007-11-24 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Whatever Happened to 'We the People'?


They went to live in Brazil.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Whatever Happened to 'We the People'?

2007-11-24 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
 
  
  
  Whatever Happened to 'We the People'?
 
 
 They went to live in Brazil.


Dodging the issues again, eh? Predictable.

Hey, Magoo, how about that great right winger economy? Are you and
your wacko wingnut pals still bragging about BushCo policies now?


Consider:

• The stock market has given up all its gains for the year; the SP500
is now down 0.11%.

• A barrel of oil is about $100; the price of a gallon of gas is well
over $3.00/gallon.

• The housing market is in the worst condition it's been in since the
Great Depression.

• Delinquencies on mortgages, credit cards, and even auto loans are
growing.

• Financial companies are in severe distress; worse is to come; we've
not seen the bulk of ARM resets.

• Home foreclosures are soaring, literally rising at unprecedented rates.

• Real income has only recently begun to grow (at a glacial pace).

• Consumer confidence numbers have plummeted to recessionary levels.

• The dollar is at record lows despite the happy talk from
administration bobbleheads about a strong dollar policy.

• There is no easy fix (and not even many hard ones) for all of the above.

• Corporate profits (the economy's mother's milk) for the third
quarter were actually down from last year's third quarter.

All links here: http://www.blah3.com/article.php?story=20071122162101836





[FairfieldLife] Re: Whatever Happened to 'We the People'?

2007-11-24 Thread lurkernomore20002000
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
Whatever Happened to 'We the People'?

Lurk:
We became wee the people.  And our handlers are pushing Wii for 
the people to keep us distracted.  Do they French see this happening?