Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault
Too sad for words. Now we know what an enlightened person -- someone who claims to have achieved the peak in life -- does with his time. He looks up a number of old posts from someone he doesn't like, carefully snips passages from them and concatenates them together to give the impression that they were all written at once in a big wall of words, and posts them in an attempt to further demonize the person he doesn't like. What were the terms a couple of this dweeb's followers posted recently on FFL, claiming that they deplored such tactics? Misrepresentation? Straw man arguments? This appears to be the counterpart of what Mr. Enlightened was doing shortly before he ran away from FFL with his tail between his legs. Back then he spent hours scouring the Internet for photographs of the same person he didn't like, cropped and modified them in Photoshop to make them look more embarrassing than they really were, and then posted them to FFL. Here he's doing the same thing, only with words. For the record -- and for the benefit of his followers on The_Leak, who we all know will be reading this on FFL -- this is a person who claims to be enlightened, demonstrating how he believes an enlightened person should act. Even if you ignore the total lack of ethics involved in this little exercise in lashing out, you have to wonder how someone supposedly enlightened and representing the peak of human achievement has that much hatred in his heart and time on his hands... :-) From: reverse_arch...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault Will someone please tell Barry that he is welcome to submit his application to me, for membership over at The Peak, at any time. But I do have a small requirement for him first, not reflected in his writing below: mental stability. Thanks. What's always boggled my mind is how many of the people whohave *BEEN* kept in line by TM teachers and Governors of theAge of Enlightenment (I mean...just *think* about that term, and thatpeople are *so* brainwashed that they take it for granted and never questionit) react. Rather than resenting having been told what they can and cannot doand what they can and cannot think for years by these dweebs, *they aspire tobe just like them*. Thus you find people like Jim Flanegin, who never had whatit took to become a TM teacher, wanting to become just like them and impose hiswill on others and force them to live the way *he* wants them to. In a veryreal sense, this strikes me as the same kind of inherited behaviorwe see in victims of child abuse. Instead of growing up to hate such abuse,they tend to grow up to become abusers themselves. I find the very existence ofThe_Leak quite fascinating. It started because one person on FFL(Jim Flanegin) had a grudge against another person on FFL (moi) because hewouldn't buy into his (ludicrous) claims of being enlightened. Mr.Enlightened got angrier and angrier and angrier until one day I used athrowaway phrase to make a point, and Jimbo went fuckin' crazy over it andstarted slinging libel accusing me of being a pedophile, and encouraging peopleto sic the authorities on me in the real world. He *also* did the same thingthat Doug/Buck is *still* doing, and started appealing to Rick Archer to haveme thrown off of FFL, and created whole threads with this in theSubject line, thus smearing my name in search engines. Rick of course ignoredhim like the idiotic control freak he was acting like. Me, because what he wasdoing was ILLEGAL and the very definition of libel, I sicced the Dutch cops onhis ass. Mr. Enlightened reacted by not only NOT apologizing forthe libel, but by running away and forming his own group, where he has nowdeveloped a history of banning anyone who dares to say something he doesn'tlike. It's not just the COWARDICE of all of this that gets me, but theabused trying to become the abuser phenomenon that makes me roll myeyes. After all these years of being indoctrinated by the TM movement, it'sunderstandable that someone with as weak an intellect as Jimbo's can no longereven *conceive* of thinking any way other than he's been told to think. What isless understandable is that he wants to be able to do to other people what wasdone to him. I guess he finally managed it, by creating a forum on which *HE*has the final word on what anyone can say and what they can't. I hope he'sfinally happy. That would be a first, in the entire time I've knownhim on the Internet. I honestly hope that Jimbo and his followers have a grandtime over on The_Leak. He gets to finally be the control freak he's alwayswanted to be, and his followers get to feel superior to thosethey've left behind. But the bottom line is that they simply couldn't handledealing with a forum on which people
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault
Barry, you are fuckin' crazy? Admit it, you live for this stuff. Any sane person would simply ignore posters they don't like. But, you? You become fully engaged. Seriously, my friend, try to find something of interest besides Jim Flanegin and The_Peak. No matter what anyone tells you, you do have options. Remember Judy? Well, she doesn't post here because she realized the reality of diminishing returns. You, on the other hand, have no such understanding. Good luck. Oh, sorry about Paris. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Too sad for words. Now we know what an enlightened person -- someone who claims to have achieved the peak in life -- does with his time. He looks up a number of old posts from someone he doesn't like, carefully snips passages from them and concatenates them together to give the impression that they were all written at once in a big wall of words, and posts them in an attempt to further demonize the person he doesn't like. What were the terms a couple of this dweeb's followers posted recently on FFL, claiming that they deplored such tactics? Misrepresentation? Straw man arguments? This appears to be the counterpart of what Mr. Enlightened was doing shortly before he ran away from FFL with his tail between his legs. Back then he spent hours scouring the Internet for photographs of the same person he didn't like, cropped and modified them in Photoshop to make them look more embarrassing than they really were, and then posted them to FFL. Here he's doing the same thing, only with words. For the record -- and for the benefit of his followers on The_Leak, who we all know will be reading this on FFL -- this is a person who claims to be enlightened, demonstrating how he believes an enlightened person should act. Even if you ignore the total lack of ethics involved in this little exercise in lashing out, you have to wonder how someone supposedly enlightened and representing the peak of human achievement has that much hatred in his heart and time on his hands... :-) From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault Will someone please tell Barry that he is welcome to submit his application to me, for membership over at The Peak, at any time. But I do have a small requirement for him first, not reflected in his writing below: mental stability. Thanks. What's always boggled my mind is how many of the people who have *BEEN* kept in line by TM teachers and Governors of the Age of Enlightenment (I mean...just *think* about that term, and that people are *so* brainwashed that they take it for granted and never question it) react. Rather than resenting having been told what they can and cannot do and what they can and cannot think for years by these dweebs, *they aspire to be just like them*. Thus you find people like Jim Flanegin, who never had what it took to become a TM teacher, wanting to become just like them and impose his will on others and force them to live the way *he* wants them to. In a very real sense, this strikes me as the same kind of inherited behavior we see in victims of child abuse. Instead of growing up to hate such abuse, they tend to grow up to become abusers themselves. I find the very existence of The_Leak quite fascinating. It started because one person on FFL (Jim Flanegin) had a grudge against another person on FFL (moi) because he wouldn't buy into his (ludicrous) claims of being enlightened. Mr. Enlightened got angrier and angrier and angrier until one day I used a throwaway phrase to make a point, and Jimbo went fuckin' crazy over it and started slinging libel accusing me of being a pedophile, and encouraging people to sic the authorities on me in the real world. He *also* did the same thing that Doug/Buck is *still* doing, and started appealing to Rick Archer to have me thrown off of FFL, and created whole threads with this in the Subject line, thus smearing my name in search engines. Rick of course ignored him like the idiotic control freak he was acting like. Me, because what he was doing was ILLEGAL and the very definition of libel, I sicced the Dutch cops on his ass. Mr. Enlightened reacted by not only NOT apologizing for the libel, but by running away and forming his own group, where he has now developed a history of banning anyone who dares to say something he doesn't like. It's not just the COWARDICE of all of this that gets me, but the abused trying to become the abuser phenomenon that makes me roll my eyes. After all these years of being indoctrinated by the TM movement, it's understandable that someone with as weak an intellect as Jimbo's can no longer even *conceive* of thinking any way other
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault
Hey Steve, this is getting complicated...Will you please pass on to Barry that he is making it ever more difficult for his application to me, for membership at The Peak, to be approved? His latest outburst, hysterically accusing me of carefully snipping and concatenating his words was very worrisome, as the entire vomitus came from just two screeds he had written earlier. Someone sure doesn't like to be reminded of his less than rational responses these days...He also tries to excuse the picture I posted about a year ago, not photoshopped, of our very portly ex-pat. I remember one of the last things Barry wrote when I would still respond to him, was, Jim Flanegin is not fucking enlightened!!! Only it was BOLD and ALL CAPS. Really made his point - lol. As my wife says, You can't argue with crazy. Good advice for us all. Good morning. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Barry, you are fuckin' crazy? Admit it, you live for this stuff. Any sane person would simply ignore posters they don't like. But, you? You become fully engaged. Seriously, my friend, try to find something of interest besides Jim Flanegin and The_Peak. No matter what anyone tells you, you do have options. Remember Judy? Well, she doesn't post here because she realized the reality of diminishing returns. You, on the other hand, have no such understanding. Good luck. Oh, sorry about Paris. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Too sad for words. Now we know what an enlightened person -- someone who claims to have achieved the peak in life -- does with his time. He looks up a number of old posts from someone he doesn't like, carefully snips passages from them and concatenates them together to give the impression that they were all written at once in a big wall of words, and posts them in an attempt to further demonize the person he doesn't like. What were the terms a couple of this dweeb's followers posted recently on FFL, claiming that they deplored such tactics? Misrepresentation? Straw man arguments? This appears to be the counterpart of what Mr. Enlightened was doing shortly before he ran away from FFL with his tail between his legs. Back then he spent hours scouring the Internet for photographs of the same person he didn't like, cropped and modified them in Photoshop to make them look more embarrassing than they really were, and then posted them to FFL. Here he's doing the same thing, only with words. For the record -- and for the benefit of his followers on The_Leak, who we all know will be reading this on FFL -- this is a person who claims to be enlightened, demonstrating how he believes an enlightened person should act. Even if you ignore the total lack of ethics involved in this little exercise in lashing out, you have to wonder how someone supposedly enlightened and representing the peak of human achievement has that much hatred in his heart and time on his hands... :-) From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault Will someone please tell Barry that he is welcome to submit his application to me, for membership over at The Peak, at any time. But I do have a small requirement for him first, not reflected in his writing below: mental stability. Thanks. What's always boggled my mind is how many of the people who have *BEEN* kept in line by TM teachers and Governors of the Age of Enlightenment (I mean...just *think* about that term, and that people are *so* brainwashed that they take it for granted and never question it) react. Rather than resenting having been told what they can and cannot do and what they can and cannot think for years by these dweebs, *they aspire to be just like them*. Thus you find people like Jim Flanegin, who never had what it took to become a TM teacher, wanting to become just like them and impose his will on others and force them to live the way *he* wants them to. In a very real sense, this strikes me as the same kind of inherited behavior we see in victims of child abuse. Instead of growing up to hate such abuse, they tend to grow up to become abusers themselves. I find the very existence of The_Leak quite fascinating. It started because one person on FFL (Jim Flanegin) had a grudge against another person on FFL (moi) because he wouldn't buy into his (ludicrous) claims of being enlightened. Mr. Enlightened got angrier and angrier and angrier until one day I used a throwaway phrase to make a point, and Jimbo went fuckin' crazy over it and started slinging libel accusing me of being a pedophile, and encouraging people to sic the authorities on me in the real world. He *also* did the same thing that Doug/Buck
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault
Message to Barry from Jim: You can apply for membership at The_Peak if you want to. End of message. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Too sad for words. Now we know what an enlightened person -- someone who claims to have achieved the peak in life -- does with his time. He looks up a number of old posts from someone he doesn't like, carefully snips passages from them and concatenates them together to give the impression that they were all written at once in a big wall of words, and posts them in an attempt to further demonize the person he doesn't like. What were the terms a couple of this dweeb's followers posted recently on FFL, claiming that they deplored such tactics? Misrepresentation? Straw man arguments? This appears to be the counterpart of what Mr. Enlightened was doing shortly before he ran away from FFL with his tail between his legs. Back then he spent hours scouring the Internet for photographs of the same person he didn't like, cropped and modified them in Photoshop to make them look more embarrassing than they really were, and then posted them to FFL. Here he's doing the same thing, only with words. For the record -- and for the benefit of his followers on The_Leak, who we all know will be reading this on FFL -- this is a person who claims to be enlightened, demonstrating how he believes an enlightened person should act. Even if you ignore the total lack of ethics involved in this little exercise in lashing out, you have to wonder how someone supposedly enlightened and representing the peak of human achievement has that much hatred in his heart and time on his hands... :-) From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault Will someone please tell Barry that he is welcome to submit his application to me, for membership over at The Peak, at any time. But I do have a small requirement for him first, not reflected in his writing below: mental stability. Thanks. What's always boggled my mind is how many of the people who have *BEEN* kept in line by TM teachers and Governors of the Age of Enlightenment (I mean...just *think* about that term, and that people are *so* brainwashed that they take it for granted and never question it) react. Rather than resenting having been told what they can and cannot do and what they can and cannot think for years by these dweebs, *they aspire to be just like them*. Thus you find people like Jim Flanegin, who never had what it took to become a TM teacher, wanting to become just like them and impose his will on others and force them to live the way *he* wants them to. In a very real sense, this strikes me as the same kind of inherited behavior we see in victims of child abuse. Instead of growing up to hate such abuse, they tend to grow up to become abusers themselves. I find the very existence of The_Leak quite fascinating. It started because one person on FFL (Jim Flanegin) had a grudge against another person on FFL (moi) because he wouldn't buy into his (ludicrous) claims of being enlightened. Mr. Enlightened got angrier and angrier and angrier until one day I used a throwaway phrase to make a point, and Jimbo went fuckin' crazy over it and started slinging libel accusing me of being a pedophile, and encouraging people to sic the authorities on me in the real world. He *also* did the same thing that Doug/Buck is *still* doing, and started appealing to Rick Archer to have me thrown off of FFL, and created whole threads with this in the Subject line, thus smearing my name in search engines. Rick of course ignored him like the idiotic control freak he was acting like. Me, because what he was doing was ILLEGAL and the very definition of libel, I sicced the Dutch cops on his ass. Mr. Enlightened reacted by not only NOT apologizing for the libel, but by running away and forming his own group, where he has now developed a history of banning anyone who dares to say something he doesn't like. It's not just the COWARDICE of all of this that gets me, but the abused trying to become the abuser phenomenon that makes me roll my eyes. After all these years of being indoctrinated by the TM movement, it's understandable that someone with as weak an intellect as Jimbo's can no longer even *conceive* of thinking any way other than he's been told to think. What is less understandable is that he wants to be able to do to other people what was done to him. I guess he finally managed it, by creating a forum on which *HE* has the final word on what anyone can say and what they can't. I hope he's finally happy. That would be a first, in the entire time I've known him on the Internet. I honestly hope that Jimbo and his followers have a grand time over on The_Leak. He gets to finally be the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault
It sounds like like a interesting approach. And I think it defines the positive parts of Barry's interaction, or rather,the interaction we, (or at least, I) used to see. But, there comes a point, (IMO), where you can stray off course, and the combat which was there to produce some enlightenment, or insight just gets perverted, and becomes something else all together. But, maybe you're just a greater warrior than I am. I do like to benchmark myself against different parameters, some considered more normal, and some more esoteric, and also apply those benchmarks to those I interact with, both in the online world and the everyday world. Dharma combat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharma_combat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharma_combat Dharma combat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharma_combat Dharma combat, called issatsu (一拶, いっさつ?, literally challenge[1]) or shosan[2] in Japanese, is a term in some schools of Buddhism referring to an intens... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharma_combat Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault
We are all crazy. Who in their right mind would spend so many years in pursuit of 'the absolute' whose description (no qualities) is exactly the same as nothing. Admittedly, it has been a lot of fun. At the core of everything, a vast blank to which we attribute all. Because to talk about it we have to concoct attributes, thus spending all our time making up shit about it to convince others it is somehow more real than what they are currently thinking . Or we adopt other people's made up shit and regurgitate it to others, or re-purpose it to others. The reason it is fun is because it engages the intellect and the creative process, to make up stuff about nothing, and make it seem as if it is something. Kind of like being a deity. Steve, I do not think you understand the process that the Zen people call 'dharma combat', which on FFL tends to settle into personal rivalry rather than illumination. The ideas expressed are what is important, not the people. As the Joker said to Batman 'you complete me'. If you are engaged, a process is working to completion. That means a process of expansion is happening. The whole spiritual arc is about completion. Those who are ignored should be considered unworthy of the journey. Think of it in a positive light. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault Barry, you are fuckin' crazy? Admit it, you live for this stuff. Any sane person would simply ignore posters they don't like. But, you? You become fully engaged. Seriously, my friend, try to find something of interest besides Jim Flanegin and The_Peak. No matter what anyone tells you, you do have options. Remember Judy? Well, she doesn't post here because she realized the reality of diminishing returns. You, on the other hand, have no such understanding. Good luck. Oh, sorry about Paris. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Too sad for words. Now we know what an enlightened person -- someone who claims to have achieved the peak in life -- does with his time. He looks up a number of old posts from someone he doesn't like, carefully snips passages from them and concatenates them together to give the impression that they were all written at once in a big wall of words, and posts them in an attempt to further demonize the person he doesn't like. What were the terms a couple of this dweeb's followers posted recently on FFL, claiming that they deplored such tactics? Misrepresentation? Straw man arguments? This appears to be the counterpart of what Mr. Enlightened was doing shortly before he ran away from FFL with his tail between his legs. Back then he spent hours scouring the Internet for photographs of the same person he didn't like, cropped and modified them in Photoshop to make them look more embarrassing than they really were, and then posted them to FFL. Here he's doing the same thing, only with words. For the record -- and for the benefit of his followers on The_Leak, who we all know will be reading this on FFL -- this is a person who claims to be enlightened, demonstrating how he believes an enlightened person should act. Even if you ignore the total lack of ethics involved in this little exercise in lashing out, you have to wonder how someone supposedly enlightened and representing the peak of human achievement has that much hatred in his heart and time on his hands... :-) From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault Will someone please tell Barry that he is welcome to submit his application to me, for membership over at The Peak, at any time. But I do have a small requirement for him first, not reflected in his writing below: mental stability. Thanks. What's always boggled my mind is how many of the people whohave *BEEN* kept in line by TM teachers and Governors of theAge of Enlightenment (I mean...just *think* about that term, and thatpeople are *so* brainwashed that they take it for granted and never questionit) react. Rather than resenting having been told what they can and cannot doand what they can and cannot think for years by these dweebs, *they aspire tobe just like them*. Thus you find people like Jim Flanegin, who never had whatit took to become a TM teacher, wanting to become just like them and impose hiswill on others and force them to live the way *he* wants them to. In a veryreal sense, this strikes me as the same kind of inherited behaviorwe see in victims of child abuse. Instead of growing up to hate such abuse,they tend to grow up to become abusers themselves. I find the very existence ofThe_Leak quite fascinating.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault
Will someone please tell Barry that he is welcome to submit his application to me, for membership over at The Peak, at any time. But I do have a small requirement for him first, not reflected in his writing below: mental stability. Thanks. What's always boggled my mind is how many of the people who have *BEEN* kept in line by TM teachers and Governors of the Age of Enlightenment (I mean...just *think* about that term, and that people are *so* brainwashed that they take it for granted and never question it) react. Rather than resenting having been told what they can and cannot do and what they can and cannot think for years by these dweebs, *they aspire to be just like them*. Thus you find people like Jim Flanegin, who never had what it took to become a TM teacher, wanting to become just like them and impose his will on others and force them to live the way *he* wants them to. In a very real sense, this strikes me as the same kind of inherited behavior we see in victims of child abuse. Instead of growing up to hate such abuse, they tend to grow up to become abusers themselves. I find the very existence of The_Leak quite fascinating. It started because one person on FFL (Jim Flanegin) had a grudge against another person on FFL (moi) because he wouldn't buy into his (ludicrous) claims of being enlightened. Mr. Enlightened got angrier and angrier and angrier until one day I used a throwaway phrase to make a point, and Jimbo went fuckin' crazy over it and started slinging libel accusing me of being a pedophile, and encouraging people to sic the authorities on me in the real world. He *also* did the same thing that Doug/Buck is *still* doing, and started appealing to Rick Archer to have me thrown off of FFL, and created whole threads with this in the Subject line, thus smearing my name in search engines. Rick of course ignored him like the idiotic control freak he was acting like. Me, because what he was doing was ILLEGAL and the very definition of libel, I sicced the Dutch cops on his ass. Mr. Enlightened reacted by not only NOT apologizing for the libel, but by running away and forming his own group, where he has now developed a history of banning anyone who dares to say something he doesn't like. It's not just the COWARDICE of all of this that gets me, but the abused trying to become the abuser phenomenon that makes me roll my eyes. After all these years of being indoctrinated by the TM movement, it's understandable that someone with as weak an intellect as Jimbo's can no longer even *conceive* of thinking any way other than he's been told to think. What is less understandable is that he wants to be able to do to other people what was done to him. I guess he finally managed it, by creating a forum on which *HE* has the final word on what anyone can say and what they can't. I hope he's finally happy. That would be a first, in the entire time I've known him on the Internet. I honestly hope that Jimbo and his followers have a grand time over on The_Leak. He gets to finally be the control freak he's always wanted to be, and his followers get to feel superior to those they've left behind. But the bottom line is that they simply couldn't handle dealing with a forum on which people were allowed to express their own ideas as they wanted. They're only comfortable on a forum in which the ways they're *allowed* to interact with others is dictated to them. If anyone is looking to define the legacy of the TM movement, I would suggest that this is it. I did my weekly scan of The_Leak this morning as my Dutch cop friends have advised me to do, just to make sure that the weasel who created the group isn't still spouting libel about me. He doesn't seem to be, so it would seem that even the dumbest people can finally learn if you just hit them over the head with reality enough times. :-) However, scanning a few of the posts quickly just to get a feel for what they talk about over there, it occurs to me that a few of them are still holding onto grudges and fostering the notion that they were pushed out of FFL and forced to create another group because Rick didn't protect them and their interests on FFL. This strikes me as so delusional I felt I should discuss it a bit. First, Fairfield Life was NEVER created for them, meaning as a place of refuge (the actual word that Buck used in one of his latest gripes) for TM True Believers. It's ASTOUNDING that anyone could *possibly* believe that. FFL has -- since Day One -- been the *opposite* of a refuge for TBs. Its charter is right there on the home page for all to see. It is *by design* a place where one has the right to challenge anything and discuss it. FFL was, in fact, created as an *alternative* to the TM movement itself, where you could get yourself excommunicated just for expressing criticism or doubt about the official TM dogma, Maharishi, or even TM itself. How did these bozos who are now holding court
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault
Maybe if we break it down, Jim, we can understand what he's talking about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Will someone please tell Barry that he is welcome to submit his application to me, for membership over at The Peak, at any time. But I do have a small requirement for him first, not reflected in his writing below: mental stability. Thanks. What's always boggled my mind is how many of the people who have *BEEN* kept in line by TM teachers and Governors of the Age of Enlightenment (I mean...just *think* about that term, and that people are *so* brainwashed that they take it for granted and never question it) react. Rather than resenting having been told what they can and cannot do and what they can and cannot think for years by these dweebs, *they aspire to be just like them*. Thus you find people like Jim Flanegin, who never had what it took to become a TM teacher, wanting to become just like them and impose his will on others and force them to live the way *he* wants them to. In a very real sense, this strikes me as the same kind of inherited behavior we see in victims of child abuse. Instead of growing up to hate such abuse, they tend to grow up to become abusers themselves. I find the very existence of The_Leak quite fascinating. It started because one person on FFL (Jim Flanegin) had a grudge against another person on FFL (moi) because he wouldn't buy into his (ludicrous) claims of being enlightened. Mr. Enlightened got angrier and angrier and angrier until one day I used a throwaway phrase to make a point, and Jimbo went fuckin' crazy over it and started slinging libel accusing me of being a pedophile, and encouraging people to sic the authorities on me in the real world. He *also* did the same thing that Doug/Buck is *still* doing, and started appealing to Rick Archer to have me thrown off of FFL, and created whole threads with this in the Subject line, thus smearing my name in search engines. Rick of course ignored him like the idiotic control freak he was acting like. Me, because what he was doing was ILLEGAL and the very definition of libel, I sicced the Dutch cops on his ass. Mr. Enlightened reacted by not only NOT apologizing for the libel, but by running away and forming his own group, where he has now developed a history of banning anyone who dares to say something he doesn't like. It's not just the COWARDICE of all of this that gets me, but the abused trying to become the abuser phenomenon that makes me roll my eyes. After all these years of being indoctrinated by the TM movement, it's understandable that someone with as weak an intellect as Jimbo's can no longer even *conceive* of thinking any way other than he's been told to think. What is less understandable is that he wants to be able to do to other people what was done to him. I guess he finally managed it, by creating a forum on which *HE* has the final word on what anyone can say and what they can't. I hope he's finally happy. That would be a first, in the entire time I've known him on the Internet. I honestly hope that Jimbo and his followers have a grand time over on The_Leak. He gets to finally be the control freak he's always wanted to be, and his followers get to feel superior to those they've left behind. But the bottom line is that they simply couldn't handle dealing with a forum on which people were allowed to express their own ideas as they wanted. They're only comfortable on a forum in which the ways they're *allowed* to interact with others is dictated to them. If anyone is looking to define the legacy of the TM movement, I would suggest that this is it. I did my weekly scan of The_Leak this morning as my Dutch cop friends have advised me to do, just to make sure that the weasel who created the group isn't still spouting libel about me. He doesn't seem to be, so it would seem that even the dumbest people can finally learn if you just hit them over the head with reality enough times. :-) However, scanning a few of the posts quickly just to get a feel for what they talk about over there, it occurs to me that a few of them are still holding onto grudges and fostering the notion that they were pushed out of FFL and forced to create another group because Rick didn't protect them and their interests on FFL. This strikes me as so delusional I felt I should discuss it a bit. First, Fairfield Life was NEVER created for them, meaning as a place of refuge (the actual word that Buck used in one of his latest gripes) for TM True Believers. It's ASTOUNDING that anyone could *possibly* believe that. FFL has -- since Day One -- been the *opposite* of a refuge for TBs. Its charter is right there on the home page for all to see. It is *by design* a place where one has the right
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault
as fiction, or non-fiction? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote : Maybe if we break it down, Jim, we can understand what he's talking about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Will someone please tell Barry that he is welcome to submit his application to me, for membership over at The Peak, at any time. But I do have a small requirement for him first, not reflected in his writing below: mental stability. Thanks. What's always boggled my mind is how many of the people who have *BEEN* kept in line by TM teachers and Governors of the Age of Enlightenment (I mean...just *think* about that term, and that people are *so* brainwashed that they take it for granted and never question it) react. Rather than resenting having been told what they can and cannot do and what they can and cannot think for years by these dweebs, *they aspire to be just like them*. Thus you find people like Jim Flanegin, who never had what it took to become a TM teacher, wanting to become just like them and impose his will on others and force them to live the way *he* wants them to. In a very real sense, this strikes me as the same kind of inherited behavior we see in victims of child abuse. Instead of growing up to hate such abuse, they tend to grow up to become abusers themselves. I find the very existence of The_Leak quite fascinating. It started because one person on FFL (Jim Flanegin) had a grudge against another person on FFL (moi) because he wouldn't buy into his (ludicrous) claims of being enlightened. Mr. Enlightened got angrier and angrier and angrier until one day I used a throwaway phrase to make a point, and Jimbo went fuckin' crazy over it and started slinging libel accusing me of being a pedophile, and encouraging people to sic the authorities on me in the real world. He *also* did the same thing that Doug/Buck is *still* doing, and started appealing to Rick Archer to have me thrown off of FFL, and created whole threads with this in the Subject line, thus smearing my name in search engines. Rick of course ignored him like the idiotic control freak he was acting like. Me, because what he was doing was ILLEGAL and the very definition of libel, I sicced the Dutch cops on his ass. Mr. Enlightened reacted by not only NOT apologizing for the libel, but by running away and forming his own group, where he has now developed a history of banning anyone who dares to say something he doesn't like. It's not just the COWARDICE of all of this that gets me, but the abused trying to become the abuser phenomenon that makes me roll my eyes. After all these years of being indoctrinated by the TM movement, it's understandable that someone with as weak an intellect as Jimbo's can no longer even *conceive* of thinking any way other than he's been told to think. What is less understandable is that he wants to be able to do to other people what was done to him. I guess he finally managed it, by creating a forum on which *HE* has the final word on what anyone can say and what they can't. I hope he's finally happy. That would be a first, in the entire time I've known him on the Internet. I honestly hope that Jimbo and his followers have a grand time over on The_Leak. He gets to finally be the control freak he's always wanted to be, and his followers get to feel superior to those they've left behind. But the bottom line is that they simply couldn't handle dealing with a forum on which people were allowed to express their own ideas as they wanted. They're only comfortable on a forum in which the ways they're *allowed* to interact with others is dictated to them. If anyone is looking to define the legacy of the TM movement, I would suggest that this is it. I did my weekly scan of The_Leak this morning as my Dutch cop friends have advised me to do, just to make sure that the weasel who created the group isn't still spouting libel about me. He doesn't seem to be, so it would seem that even the dumbest people can finally learn if you just hit them over the head with reality enough times. :-) However, scanning a few of the posts quickly just to get a feel for what they talk about over there, it occurs to me that a few of them are still holding onto grudges and fostering the notion that they were pushed out of FFL and forced to create another group because Rick didn't protect them and their interests on FFL. This strikes me as so delusional I felt I should discuss it a bit. First, Fairfield Life was NEVER created for them, meaning as a place of refuge (the actual word that Buck used in one of his latest gripes) for TM True Believers. It's ASTOUNDING that anyone could *possibly* believe that. FFL has -- since Day One -- been the *opposite* of a refuge for TBs. Its charter is right there
