[FairfieldLife] Re: Yugas..End of Kali..Start of Krita Yuga.. Jyotishis calculate??
Well, Jupiter, Sun and Moon are in Pushya every 27 years, so what is so special about the next time that happens? Are you suggesting that the the Krita age starts every 27 years? What is the big deal about such an age? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sadhak108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Namaste' The following passage notes the position of the constellations for the end of Kali Yuga and the many characteristic's of such. And then when the Sun, the Moon, and Brihaspati will, with the constellation Pushya, enter the same sign, the Krita age will begin again [Note:ÊÊ Pushya is the eighth lunar asterism consisting of three stars, of which one is the Cancer. (Vide WilsonÕs Dict.)] Is there anyone here who can calculate when this occurs? Does anyone truly believe it is on Guru Purnima this year? The link below contains a greater exposition of how bad it actually gets. Funny how the TMO'ers refer to Sat Yuga when throughout Puranic literature Krita Yuga is always the name. http://www.hinduism.co.za/kaliyuga.htm From The Mahabharata Vana Parva, Section CLXXXIX Translated by Sri Kisari Mohan Ganguli Men will again be created and distributed into the four orders beginning with Brahmanas. And when those terrible times will be over, the creation will begin anew, and men will again be created and distributed into the four orders beginning with Brahmanas. And about that time, in order that men may increase, Providence, according to its pleasure, will once more become propitious. And then when the Sun, the Moon, and Brihaspati will, with the constellation Pushya, enter the same sign, the Krita age will begin again. [Note:ÊÊ Pushya is the eighth lunar asterism consisting of three stars, of which one is the Cancer. (Vide WilsonÕs Dict.)] And commissioned by Time, a Brahmana of the name of Kalki will take his birth. And he will restore order and peace in this world Jai Jai Guru Deva!!! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yugas..End of Kali..Start of Krita Yuga.. Jyotishis calculate??
Vaj, it appears we are interpreting this text differently. First if this is referring to tha nakshatra Pushya, encompases the same sign(s) year to year: Pushya is in 3.20-16.40 Cancer. If the text literally means enter -- as in the same day -- then this a much rarer event than my adjacent post indicates. If it means having entered as in all three are in pushya at same time, then it happens every 54-108 years. I don't have my jyotish software up and running. Is your date based on Moon, Sun, and Jupiter entering Puhsya on same day -- having all three been in Punarvasu the prior day ? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2005, at 1:57 PM, sadhak108 wrote: And then when the Sun, the Moon, and Brihaspati will, with the constellation Pushya, enter the same sign, the Krita age will begin again 8/15/2441 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yugas..End of Kali..Start of Krita Yuga.. Jyotishis calculate??
One things for sure--the sun is always in Pushya for the same time basically, every summer. It would have to occur in that time span. The sun enters Pushya every summer on the 19th or 20th of July. -Vaj. On Mar 28, 2005, at 5:15 PM, akasha_108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2005, at 3:04 PM, akasha_108 wrote: I don't have my jyotish software up and running. Is your date based on Moon, Sun, and Jupiter entering Puhsya on same day -- having all three been in Punarvasu the prior day ? No. I am trying to calculate it just with them in Pushya, near the trad. date of 2442 CE. Are you using Goravani? Are you using the calculator? I also have Parasara's Light, but not here. I use Goravani -- but don't have it currently loaded. I am curious how you are calculating it. I am just envisioning the cycles. Jupiter travels and then repeats the zodiac every 12 years. There are 27 Nakshatras. Thus Jupiter is on average in each Nakshatra for .444 years each 12 year cycle, or for 5.33 month. And thus Jupiter is in Pushya (cancer, 3.20 for 5.33 for 5.33 months every 12 years. So lets imagine a time when Sun, Moon and Jupiter are all in pushya, with Jupiter and sun just entering it. 12 years later, Jupiter returns to the same spot in pushya and remains in pushya for 5.33 months. Being exactly 12 years later, the sun is in the same spot, and will be in pushya for 13 and 1/3 days. This is just less than 1/2 a lunar cycle of 28 days. That means that the moon will appear in Pushya almost every two cycles of Jupiter, when Jupiter and Sun are there together. But sometimes it will take three jupiter cycles for the moon to show up. Now lets refine it. Ok so the actual cycle of Jupiter is 11.86 years. So every 12 years, just as Sun enters pushya, jupiter will have moved a bit ahead of where it was last time, by 2% of one degree or so. And there are leap years. And Jupiter will go retrograde periodically. So while the pattern is fairly stable, and with the three grahas in pusya every 2-3 cycles of Jupiter (24-36 years) (more often every 2 than 3), there will be some times when it takes 4, sometimes, rarely, it may only take one cycle. My original quick head calc was wrong -- saying it was low multipls of every 27 years. Its actually low multiples of every 12 years. But if the text means entry into pushya on the same day, then as i said thats a much more rare event. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yugas..End of Kali..Start of Krita Yuga.. Jyotishis calculate??
On Mar 28, 2005, at 5:23 PM, peterklutz wrote: How so? Look it up. It's consistent. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yugas..End of Kali..Start of Krita Yuga.. Jyotishis calculate??
Another thing for sure are the lengths of the cycles of jupiter and the moon so the three are in pushya every 24-36 years, with a few ouliers in there. Go run the GJ transit window with advance set to 1 year and just click a way and see for yourself. Its not magic, the grahas follow a regular pattern. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One things for sure--the sun is always in Pushya for the same time basically, every summer. It would have to occur in that time span. The sun enters Pushya every summer on the 19th or 20th of July. -Vaj. On Mar 28, 2005, at 5:15 PM, akasha_108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2005, at 3:04 PM, akasha_108 wrote: I don't have my jyotish software up and running. Is your date based on Moon, Sun, and Jupiter entering Puhsya on same day -- having all three been in Punarvasu the prior day ? No. I am trying to calculate it just with them in Pushya, near the trad. date of 2442 CE. Are you using Goravani? Are you using the calculator? I also have Parasara's Light, but not here. I use Goravani -- but don't have it currently loaded. I am curious how you are calculating it. I am just envisioning the cycles. Jupiter travels and then repeats the zodiac every 12 years. There are 27 Nakshatras. Thus Jupiter is on average in each Nakshatra for .444 years each 12 year cycle, or for 5.33 month. And thus Jupiter is in Pushya (cancer, 3.20 for 5.33 for 5.33 months every 12 years. So lets imagine a time when Sun, Moon and Jupiter are all in pushya, with Jupiter and sun just entering it. 12 years later, Jupiter returns to the same spot in pushya and remains in pushya for 5.33 months. Being exactly 12 years later, the sun is in the same spot, and will be in pushya for 13 and 1/3 days. This is just less than 1/2 a lunar cycle of 28 days. That means that the moon will appear in Pushya almost every two cycles of Jupiter, when Jupiter and Sun are there together. But sometimes it will take three jupiter cycles for the moon to show up. Now lets refine it. Ok so the actual cycle of Jupiter is 11.86 years. So every 12 years, just as Sun enters pushya, jupiter will have moved a bit ahead of where it was last time, by 2% of one degree or so. And there are leap years. And Jupiter will go retrograde periodically. So while the pattern is fairly stable, and with the three grahas in pusya every 2-3 cycles of Jupiter (24-36 years) (more often every 2 than 3), there will be some times when it takes 4, sometimes, rarely, it may only take one cycle. My original quick head calc was wrong -- saying it was low multipls of every 27 years. Its actually low multiples of every 12 years. But if the text means entry into pushya on the same day, then as i said thats a much more rare event. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yugas..End of Kali..Start of Krita Yuga.. Jyotishis calculate??
I also heard a Jyotoshi say that each Yug is broken up into 4 parts. The last quarter always has the possibility of becoming satvic version of the main quality of the Yug itself. Kaliyug he said is the materialist age. He said the last quarter of this Kaliyug had the potential to create a materialistic enlightenment. (which I took to mean non-polluting machines, purity of environment but with all the mod cons, enlightened behaviour of a space travelling enlightened race) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sadhak108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anip Is there anyone here who can calculate when this occurs? I can relate what MMY said a few years back when someone pointed out the inconsistency between the alleged Age of Enlighetenment and what the TMO translation of the BG indicates, that some 428.000 years of Kali Yuga remain before Kalki and Sat Yuga. MMY's answer was that a bubble of Sat Yuga some ten thousand years long would be created in Kali yuga. Funny how the TMO'ers refer to Sat Yuga when throughout Puranic literature Krita Yuga is always the name. How so? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yugas..End of Kali..Start of Krita Yuga.. Jyotishis calculate??
Loading GJ, and calculating it exactly, Jupiter, Sun and Moon will all be in Pushya next on: July 26, 2014 2:50 am PST, to July 27, 4:50 am the next day. Ju 8'9, Su 9'17. The next time will be 24 years later: July 30, 20:38 to July 31, 21:50. Ju 16'07 Su 14'38 So its not a rare event. The last time this occurred is more than 36 years ago. The alignment just misses for each of the last 12 year periods, which happens occasionally, but should align not too far back from there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another thing for sure are the lengths of the cycles of jupiter and the moon so the three are in pushya every 24-36 years, with a few ouliers in there. Go run the GJ transit window with advance set to 1 year and just click a way and see for yourself. Its not magic, the grahas follow a regular pattern. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One things for sure--the sun is always in Pushya for the same time basically, every summer. It would have to occur in that time span. The sun enters Pushya every summer on the 19th or 20th of July. -Vaj. On Mar 28, 2005, at 5:15 PM, akasha_108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2005, at 3:04 PM, akasha_108 wrote: I don't have my jyotish software up and running. Is your date based on Moon, Sun, and Jupiter entering Puhsya on same day -- having all three been in Punarvasu the prior day ? No. I am trying to calculate it just with them in Pushya, near the trad. date of 2442 CE. Are you using Goravani? Are you using the calculator? I also have Parasara's Light, but not here. I use Goravani -- but don't have it currently loaded. I am curious how you are calculating it. I am just envisioning the cycles. Jupiter travels and then repeats the zodiac every 12 years. There are 27 Nakshatras. Thus Jupiter is on average in each Nakshatra for .444 years each 12 year cycle, or for 5.33 month. And thus Jupiter is in Pushya (cancer, 3.20 for 5.33 for 5.33 months every 12 years. So lets imagine a time when Sun, Moon and Jupiter are all in pushya, with Jupiter and sun just entering it. 12 years later, Jupiter returns to the same spot in pushya and remains in pushya for 5.33 months. Being exactly 12 years later, the sun is in the same spot, and will be in pushya for 13 and 1/3 days. This is just less than 1/2 a lunar cycle of 28 days. That means that the moon will appear in Pushya almost every two cycles of Jupiter, when Jupiter and Sun are there together. But sometimes it will take three jupiter cycles for the moon to show up. Now lets refine it. Ok so the actual cycle of Jupiter is 11.86 years. So every 12 years, just as Sun enters pushya, jupiter will have moved a bit ahead of where it was last time, by 2% of one degree or so. And there are leap years. And Jupiter will go retrograde periodically. So while the pattern is fairly stable, and with the three grahas in pusya every 2-3 cycles of Jupiter (24-36 years) (more often every 2 than 3), there will be some times when it takes 4, sometimes, rarely, it may only take one cycle. My original quick head calc was wrong -- saying it was low multipls of every 27 years. Its actually low multiples of every 12 years. But if the text means entry into pushya on the same day, then as i said thats a much more rare event. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yugas..End of Kali..Start of Krita Yuga.. Jyotishis calculate??
As I said some days back, there are natural yuga cycles and then there are artificial yugas that can be overlaid upon them through yagya. Regarding the natural cycles, Yukteswar set out a powerful reckoning related to equinoctial precession in his book The Holy Science. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sadhak108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anip Is there anyone here who can calculate when this occurs? I can relate what MMY said a few years back when someone pointed out the inconsistency between the alleged Age of Enlighetenment and what the TMO translation of the BG indicates, that some 428.000 years of Kali Yuga remain before Kalki and Sat Yuga. MMY's answer was that a bubble of Sat Yuga some ten thousand years long would be created in Kali yuga. Funny how the TMO'ers refer to Sat Yuga when throughout Puranic literature Krita Yuga is always the name. How so? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
