Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to feste
Richard, chuckling here and yeah, I liked that idea of the middle way when you first mentioned it, at least to my knowledge, maybe 2 weeks ago. Anyway, thanks, it's a good reminder. Also kind of funny, that quandry of trying not to try too much! Makes me appreciate Maharishi's genius about all this. He said to meditate and act. He also said to enjoy. He also said to follow the laws of one's religion and country. He also said that a person can only act from their level of consciousness. So all in all, I think being human is a strange but beautiful journey. (-: On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:22 AM, "'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote: On 6/17/2014 7:07 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: >feste, I aim for minimal politeness and contact as best as I can. I don't >think it improves the situation to get hyper negative. Hope you're staying >cool these steamy days... > > Share - The informants on FFL need to be following a middle way between beingreally polite and not being polite enough. How to be the middle way? Do not be too polite and do not try to be less than polite. But, this introduces another problem - trying too hard to follow the middle way. So, do not follow the middle way too much and do not try to avoid following the middle way too much. I hope this information has been useful to you. - Richard > > > >On Monday, June 16, 2014 5:36 PM, feste37 wrote: > > > > >You're a lot more polite than I would be under the circumstances. > > > >---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : > > >Hi feste, I think FFL has an interesting quandry in that the vast majority of >participants are at that stage in life that Piaget called Generativity which >refers to the desire to pass along one's knowledge and wisdom to the younger >generation. Except there is no younger generation on FFL! And, add to that, >most of us are content with our lives so not likely to change our opinions, >etc. which got us to this point. Plus, Judy and I are polar opposites not only >in outlook but also in temperament. We will never agree. And I'm fine with >that. However, when she's presenting opinion for fact or truth, I will express >disagreement. I'm not expecting to change her mind. But I think it's important >to express what I think to be true. > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to feste
On 6/17/2014 7:07 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: feste, I aim for minimal politeness and contact as best as I can. I don't think it improves the situation to get hyper negative. Hope you're staying cool these steamy days... > Share - The informants on FFL need to be following a middle way between being/really polite and not being polite enough/. How to be the middle way? Do not be too polite and do not try to be less than polite. But, this introduces another problem - trying too hard to follow the middle way. So, do not follow the middle way too much and do not try to avoid following the middle way too much. I hope this information has been useful to you. - Richard > On Monday, June 16, 2014 5:36 PM, feste37 wrote: You're a lot more polite than I would be under the circumstances. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hi feste, I think FFL has an interesting quandry in that the vast majority of participants are at that stage in life that Piaget called Generativity which refers to the desire to pass along one's knowledge and wisdom to the younger generation. Except there is no younger generation on FFL! And, add to that, most of us are content with our lives so not likely to change our opinions, etc. which got us to this point. Plus, Judy and I are polar opposites not only in outlook but also in temperament. We will never agree. And I'm fine with that. However, when she's presenting opinion for fact or truth, I will express disagreement. I'm not expecting to change her mind. But I think it's important to express what I think to be true.
[FairfieldLife] Re: to feste
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Below. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hi feste, I think FFL has an interesting quandry in that the vast majority of participants are at that stage in life that Piaget called Generativity which refers to the desire to pass along one's knowledge and wisdom to the younger generation. Share, this is a badly simplified and inaccurate understanding of "Generativity." I've been reading on it. You might consider the fact (as you are repeating verbatim what you said in an earlier post), that your reduction of this concept to the above statement badly corrupts what it is, in essence. Don't lock in so easily to what you "think." Except there is no younger generation on FFL! Share, how do you define "younger generation?" I was born in the 60's and was a small child living a sheltered existence during that decade - that puts me on the verge of a younger generation. Sal sound like he may also be a youngster. But, no matter, as you have the essence of the term and use of the term "generativity" incorrect, based on what I've read. And, add to that, most of us are content with our lives so not likely to change our opinions, etc. which got us to this point. How do you know this? Based on what people write here? That's a hella arrogant statement of assumption on your part. In my case, personally (yes, I will share something personal) completely not true in terms of being content (unfortunately, maybe) and the jump in assumption you make tying the concept of being "content" to "not likely to change our opinions" is a strange philosophy and reflects your position and how you operate here. Sounds like the formula for living in a dead zone to me. Plus, Judy and I are polar opposites not only in outlook but also in temperament. We will never agree. And, you slam the door shut again. And I'm fine with that. And, one more time for good measure. However, when she's presenting opinion for fact or truth, I will express disagreement. I'm not expecting to change her mind. But I think it's important to express what I think to be true. Express what you think to be *true* all you like, but realize Share, you don't have any idea if it really is *true*. Don't be scared now, I'm not going to reply to any reply you give, as I am taking in the enormity of the resentment you have towards me. I replied to this because of the *repeat* in your verbage, without having obviously explored for yourself what it was you were professing, after your last post of this concept. I found it fascinating to read you stating that you believe negative emotions release dangerous chemicals into the body and yet, your fear and resentments towards me are alive and well and have been for a year or two now. If you'd like me to give you some substantive tips on how to release them, let me know. I might be able to teach *you* something, younger generation that I am - you'd have a daughter my age Share, if you'd been a teenage mom. Don't underestimate the power of the younger generation to inform and educate the older one. Knowledge, inspiration and all sorts of other gold nuggets in my life come from everywhere. No matter where you are and what age or culture of people surround you, you are bound to find things out that you didn't know before or had not seen in the same way. Share says something about contentment being a reason to stop changing or learning or altering an opinion about a thing. Who here is content, and what does content have to do with willingness to process and perhaps adopt new knowledge or information? Younger, older, animal or human - life experience, thankfully, comes from everywhere all the time. Just yesterday I watched a woman cradle her dead horse's head in her arms and keen loudly in utter, absolute grief. I was stunned by how similar we, as human beings, are in our moments of profound sorrow and how courage and acceptance is demanded of us all the time. I was in awe at the depth of her love and at her willingness to go so deep into the rawness of her feelings as she stroked his unfeeling nose and wept onto the dead and unseeing face. And I learned and I took into myself what I saw and felt and it has changed me.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to feste
feste, I aim for minimal politeness and contact as best as I can. I don't think it improves the situation to get hyper negative. Hope you're staying cool these steamy days... On Monday, June 16, 2014 5:36 PM, feste37 wrote: You're a lot more polite than I would be under the circumstances. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hi feste, I think FFL has an interesting quandry in that the vast majority of participants are at that stage in life that Piaget called Generativity which refers to the desire to pass along one's knowledge and wisdom to the younger generation. Except there is no younger generation on FFL! And, add to that, most of us are content with our lives so not likely to change our opinions, etc. which got us to this point. Plus, Judy and I are polar opposites not only in outlook but also in temperament. We will never agree. And I'm fine with that. However, when she's presenting opinion for fact or truth, I will express disagreement. I'm not expecting to change her mind. But I think it's important to express what I think to be true.
[FairfieldLife] Re: to feste
Below. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hi feste, I think FFL has an interesting quandry in that the vast majority of participants are at that stage in life that Piaget called Generativity which refers to the desire to pass along one's knowledge and wisdom to the younger generation. Share, this is a badly simplified and inaccurate understanding of "Generativity." I've been reading on it. You might consider the fact (as you are repeating verbatim what you said in an earlier post), that your reduction of this concept to the above statement badly corrupts what it is, in essence. Don't lock in so easily to what you "think." Except there is no younger generation on FFL! Share, how do you define "younger generation?" I was born in the 60's and was a small child living a sheltered existence during that decade - that puts me on the verge of a younger generation. Sal sound like he may also be a youngster. But, no matter, as you have the essence of the term and use of the term "generativity" incorrect, based on what I've read. And, add to that, most of us are content with our lives so not likely to change our opinions, etc. which got us to this point. How do you know this? Based on what people write here? That's a hella arrogant statement of assumption on your part. In my case, personally (yes, I will share something personal) completely not true in terms of being content (unfortunately, maybe) and the jump in assumption you make tying the concept of being "content" to "not likely to change our opinions" is a strange philosophy and reflects your position and how you operate here. Sounds like the formula for living in a dead zone to me. Plus, Judy and I are polar opposites not only in outlook but also in temperament. We will never agree. And, you slam the door shut again. And I'm fine with that. And, one more time for good measure. However, when she's presenting opinion for fact or truth, I will express disagreement. I'm not expecting to change her mind. But I think it's important to express what I think to be true. Express what you think to be *true* all you like, but realize Share, you don't have any idea if it really is *true*. Don't be scared now, I'm not going to reply to any reply you give, as I am taking in the enormity of the resentment you have towards me. I replied to this because of the *repeat* in your verbage, without having obviously explored for yourself what it was you were professing, after your last post of this concept. I found it fascinating to read you stating that you believe negative emotions release dangerous chemicals into the body and yet, your fear and resentments towards me are alive and well and have been for a year or two now. If you'd like me to give you some substantive tips on how to release them, let me know. I might be able to teach *you* something, younger generation that I am - you'd have a daughter my age Share, if you'd been a teenage mom. Don't underestimate the power of the younger generation to inform and educate the older one.
[FairfieldLife] Re: to feste
You're a lot more polite than I would be under the circumstances. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hi feste, I think FFL has an interesting quandry in that the vast majority of participants are at that stage in life that Piaget called Generativity which refers to the desire to pass along one's knowledge and wisdom to the younger generation. Except there is no younger generation on FFL! And, add to that, most of us are content with our lives so not likely to change our opinions, etc. which got us to this point. Plus, Judy and I are polar opposites not only in outlook but also in temperament. We will never agree. And I'm fine with that. However, when she's presenting opinion for fact or truth, I will express disagreement. I'm not expecting to change her mind. But I think it's important to express what I think to be true.
