[FairfieldLife] Re:islam in briefquot;attributes of Godquot;

2008-02-08 Thread curtisdeltablues
   For example - earth goes around the sun. Assuming that is correct,
is it natural. By natural we mean, wild, no order. Does not look like
it is to me. Same thing when a car goes round and round a circle, is
that natural? Are there no other places this car can go to? 

You are now officially my favorite poster on FFL.  BTW about that car
driving in a circle thing, I only had like two beers but the problem
was that I drank them in 20 seconds in a beer bong hat while behind
the wheel.  So it was not really my fault.

snip life is a battle; it is a struggle. Live or die. NO ifs nor
buts. Life moves on. You lag behind, you die.

I thought was talked about some lighter material here.  Like maybe a
joke or something including a rabbi a priest and a hindu monk entering
a bar...something of that nature goes over very well.

 NO ifs nor buts. This makes the 10 Commandments not from God. This
makes the 10 Commandments a scam. 

Especially the one about banging married chicks.  Who does God think
we are going to meet during free wing night during happy hour Friday
night at the bar next to the convention center during the Midwestern
teacher's conference...duh...out of town married chicks trying to get
their freak on!  It would actually be a sin not to scoop up some free
action without even a need to buy them dinner!  I love this town. (If
you get there early they have free fried mozzarella sticks but they
run out quickly)


   Enlightenment can become a very good technique  
   1. if one is trying to lose weight and save money 
   2. for mental relaxation purposes
   3. to strengthen or improve ones control over ones spirit - if one
knows how

Any luck with enhancing pectoral muscles?  I don't mean like man boobs
or anything gross like that but maybe something like Christopher
Reeves had working before the horse thing?  Or perhaps enlightenment
could grow some hair on my chest because the chest toupee I wear to
the beach is itchy and once fell off onto a sunbather whose tan line
picture I was absolutely NOT taking despite what the beach patrol says. 


   islam in briefattributes of God   Posted by: Maryam Hassan 

I am on record as saying that I agree with ever single thing this
woman posted about Islam.  Please put me in the Friend of Islam
book.  Thanks and Allah Akbar to everyone back home.



[EMAIL PROTECTED]   maryam_science33   Fri Feb 8, 2008 10:12 am
(PST)   
 Attributes of God ( Allah ) 
 
 
 
 To Allah belong the most beautiful names. The Holy Qur'an says: {{
Say (O Muhammad): Invoke Allâh or invoke the Most Beneficent (Allâh),
by whatever name you invoke Him (it is the same), for to Him belong
the Best Names. And offer your Salât (prayer) neither aloud nor in a
low voice, but follow a way between. }}, ) Holy Qur'an 17:110 (.
 Sources of Islam give no less than ninety-nine different attributes
to Allah Almighty. The Holy Qur'an refers to Allah as Ar-Rahman (Most
Gracious), Ar-Raheem (Most Merciful) and Hakeem (All Wise) among many
other names.
 
 God does not take human form:
 Many religions at some point believe, directly or indirectly, in the
philosophy of anthropomorphism i.e. God is palatable to become a
human. Their contention is that God Almighty is so pure and holy to
the extent that He is unaware ( It is true that Allah is not like us,
but this does not mean that He is unaware of our situations!! !?- I
would rather say: is far away) of the hardships, shortcomings and
feelings of human beings. In order to set the rules for human beings,
He came down to earth as a human. Let us now analyze this argument and
see if it stands to reason. 
 Suppose I manufacture a videocassette recorder (VCR). Do I have to
become a VCR to know what is good or what is bad for the VCR? What do
I do? I write a manual instruction. In order to watch a video
cassette, you should insert the cassette and press on the play button.
In order to stop, press on the stop button. If you want to fast
forward press on the FF button. Do not drop it from a height or it
will get damaged. Do not immerse it in water or it will get ruined.
These manual instructions list the various do's and don'ts for the
machine. Similarly, our Lord and Creator, Allah does not need to take
the human form so as to know what is good or bad for the human being.
He chooses to reveal the manual instructions. The last and final
manual instruction that is sent down to the human beings is the
Glorious Qur'an whose `do's' and `don'ts' are mentioned to the human
beings through the Holy Verses. If you allow me to compare human
beings with machines, I would say humans are
 more complicated than the most complex machines in the world. Even
the most advanced computers, which are extremely complex, are pale in
comparison to the physical, psychological, genetic, and social factors
that affect individuals and collective human life. The more advanced
the machine is, the greater the need for its manual instruction is. By
the use of the same criteria, don't the 

[FairfieldLife] Re:islam in briefquot;attributes of Godquot;

2008-02-08 Thread Napoleon Lupei
I like this and would like to share my opinion:
   
  1. God does not take human form:
  2. God does not perform ungodly acts
  3. God does not make mistakes
  4. God does not forget
   
  IMO: all of it could be a ruse, a trick. Yes there is a God but that is not 
all there is to know to form a correct or sensible opinion.
   
  For example - earth goes around the sun. Assuming that is correct, is it 
natural. By natural we mean, wild, no order. Does not look like it is to me. 
Same thing when a car goes round and round a circle, is that natural? Are there 
no other places this car can go to? 
   
  With regards to MMY: enlightenment = no desire. What about FREE WILL? Ergo - 
enlightenment is a scam - to make a slave. Wanting to be desireless is desire. 
Walking towards the path is desire. Staying on the path is desire.
   
  Seeking perfection is better. The carpenter said, be perfect just like your 
father in heaven is also perfect. That is like saying, try to excell in all 
your undertakings. Like be good or be the best; life is a battle; it is a 
struggle. Live or die. NO ifs nor buts. Life moves on. You lag behind, you die. 
NO ifs nor buts. This makes the 10 Commandments not from God. This makes the 10 
Commandments a scam. 
   
  Enlightenment can become a very good technique  
  1. if one is trying to lose weight and save money 
  2. for mental relaxation purposes
  3. to strengthen or improve ones control over ones spirit - if one knows how
   
   
  islam in briefattributes of God   Posted by: Maryam Hassan [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]   maryam_science33   Fri Feb 8, 2008 10:12 am (PST)   
Attributes of God ( Allah ) 



To Allah belong the most beautiful names. The Holy Qur'an says: {{ Say (O 
Muhammad): Invoke Allâh or invoke the Most Beneficent (Allâh), by whatever 
name you invoke Him (it is the same), for to Him belong the Best Names. And 
offer your Salât (prayer) neither aloud nor in a low voice, but follow a way 
between. }}, ) Holy Qur'an 17:110 (.
Sources of Islam give no less than ninety-nine different attributes to Allah 
Almighty. The Holy Qur'an refers to Allah as Ar-Rahman (Most Gracious), 
Ar-Raheem (Most Merciful) and Hakeem (All Wise) among many other names.

God does not take human form:
Many religions at some point believe, directly or indirectly, in the philosophy 
of anthropomorphism i.e. God is palatable to become a human. Their contention 
is that God Almighty is so pure and holy to the extent that He is unaware ( It 
is true that Allah is not like us, but this does not mean that He is unaware of 
our situations!! !?- I would rather say: is far away) of the hardships, 
shortcomings and feelings of human beings. In order to set the rules for human 
beings, He came down to earth as a human. Let us now analyze this argument and 
see if it stands to reason. 
Suppose I manufacture a videocassette recorder (VCR). Do I have to become a VCR 
to know what is good or what is bad for the VCR? What do I do? I write a manual 
instruction. In order to watch a video cassette, you should insert the 
cassette and press on the play button. In order to stop, press on the stop 
button. If you want to fast forward press on the FF button. Do not drop it from 
a height or it will get damaged. Do not immerse it in water or it will get 
ruined. These manual instructions list the various do’s and don’ts for the 
machine. Similarly, our Lord and Creator, Allah does not need to take the human 
form so as to know what is good or bad for the human being. He chooses to 
reveal the manual instructions. The last and final manual instruction that is 
sent down to the human beings is the Glorious Qur'an whose ‘do's’ and ‘don’ts’ 
are mentioned to the human beings through the Holy Verses. If you allow me to 
compare human beings with machines, I would say humans are
more complicated than the most complex machines in the world. Even the most 
advanced computers, which are extremely complex, are pale in comparison to the 
physical, psychological, genetic, and social factors that affect individuals 
and collective human life. The more advanced the machine is, the greater the 
need for its manual instruction is. By the use of the same criteria, don't the 
human beings require a manual instruction by which it is easy to govern their 
own lives? 
Therefore, Allah does not come down personally to give the manual instruction. 
He chooses a man amongst men to deliver the message and communicates with him 
at a higher level through the medium of revelations. Such chosen men are called 
messengers and prophets of God. 

God does not perform ungodly acts: 
The attributes of Almighty God preclude any evil since God is the source of 
justice, mercy and truth. God can never be thought of as doing an ungodly act. 
Hence, we cannot imagine God telling a lie, being unjust, making a mistake, 
forgetting things, or having any such human failings. Similarly, God can do 
injustice if He chooses to, but He will never do it because