Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share
On 12/2/2014 12:48 PM, TurquoiseBee wrote: > */Interesting idea. Now here's a koan for you -- in such a situation, similar to the Zen "Am I a man dreaming that I am a butterfly or a butterfly dreaming that I am a man" koan -- Is Richard too dumb to pull off pretending to be Steve, or is Steve too dumb to pull off pretending to be Richard? :-)/* /*> *//And why would Richard want to pretend to be Steve when he already has six aliases whenever he wants to use them? For all you know Richard has been posting here for years under an alias. Go figure.//* */
Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share
Interesting idea. Now here's a koan for you -- in such a situation, similar to the Zen "Am I a man dreaming that I am a butterfly or a butterfly dreaming that I am a man" koan -- Is Richard too dumb to pull off pretending to be Steve, or is Steve too dumb to pull off pretending to be Richard? :-) From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share I can't think of anyone on FFL besides you Share that thinks Richard has anything to contribute to FFL. Maybe Steve, but I'm convinced he is Richard posting under an alias - either that or someone has been cloning humans. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share salyavin, a big irony for me is that now you and turq want to do to Richard, what some former members wanted to do to you two. That is, boot you out of the group! I don't think it's the best solution unless someone is making threats, exposing identities and accusing posters of current lawbreaking. And if turq's really been so unhappy because Richard's been "ragging on" him and others for almost 20 years, why the heck didn't turq do the sensible thing and start his own group?! Slight change of perspective. I'm thinking of Richard's line to MJ: YOU WILL NEVER BAKE CUPCAKES AT MIU AGAIN! Even now, 50% of the time that makes me laugh; 25% of the time I'm neutral; and 25% of the time it exasperates me. So obviously my reaction has mostly to do with my own inner state than with Richard or MJ or even cupcakes. That's why I don't believe in booting people. Except in the cases mentioned above. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 1:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Share, I find it interesting that Anartaxius tried to "talk some sense into you" just after I did, and with the same bottom-line request -- take it off line. Richard is USING your naivete and Pollyanna blissninnyness to FUCK UP FFL. THAT is all he's interested in doing. YOU are his accomplice. NO ONE ELSE falls for his shit any more. It's only you. You're not helping HIM by responding to his trolling, and you're hurting the forum you claim to like. It really is time for you to wise up a bit. And on another, more fundamental level, it may be time for Rick to respond to Richard trying to destroy Fairfield Life by suggesting (enforcing) his move over to The_Peak. If you actually believe he's innocent and well-meaning in the things he posts, Share, you should have no problems with him being forced to post them over there, rather than here. I think that would be great, and pretty much the ultimate "Karma, dude." I agree totally, Willy has somewhere else to go and talk to people he obviously prefers. The only reason he sticks around here is to annoy people. Trolling by definition. I support the call for him to make the shift into Jim's site, unwillingly if necessary, let them endure his company if they've accepted him. But Share is unlikely to ever reach a realistic opinion about him, I suspect he likes having her to protect and she overlooks his trolling as "zaniness" Each to their own I suppose... It used to be fun having him as our pet retard to point to whenever you wanted a wake up call about the dangers of cult delusion, but now he's the only asshole here I really think it would be for his own good not to stand out so much. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 4:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share Xeno, it sounds like you and turq are concerned about FFL and so would like me and Richard to continue discussing the porn site issue elsewhere. To that end, you would like me to take your opinions of Richard into consideration. And I think you have a good insight about how Richard and I are similar. What is strange for me about your analysis of me is that here in FF I am considered very un Pollyannish. Certainly compared to many others in FF. Some people here walk around smiling all the time, which I do not. And I tend to have an attitude of "it's all grist for the mill" and that it's a funny, old life. These are not the dominant memes of your typical FF bliss ninny! It could simply be that compared to some others on FFL I seem hyper positive. But I know myself to be grounded and certainly far from hyper positive an
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I can't think of anyone on FFL besides you Share that thinks Richard has anything to contribute to FFL. Maybe Steve, but I'm convinced he is Richard posting under an alias - either that or someone has been cloning humans. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share salyavin, a big irony for me is that now you and turq want to do to Richard, what some former members wanted to do to you two. That is, boot you out of the group! I don't think it's the best solution unless someone is making threats, exposing identities and accusing posters of current lawbreaking. And if turq's really been so unhappy because Richard's been "ragging on" him and others for almost 20 years, why the heck didn't turq do the sensible thing and start his own group?! Slight change of perspective. I'm thinking of Richard's line to MJ: YOU WILL NEVER BAKE CUPCAKES AT MIU AGAIN! Even now, 50% of the time that makes me laugh; 25% of the time I'm neutral; and 25% of the time it exasperates me. So obviously my reaction has mostly to do with my own inner state than with Richard or MJ or even cupcakes. That's why I don't believe in booting people. Except in the cases mentioned above. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 1:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Share, I find it interesting that Anartaxius tried to "talk some sense into you" just after I did, and with the same bottom-line request -- take it off line. Richard is USING your naivete and Pollyanna blissninnyness to FUCK UP FFL. THAT is all he's interested in doing. YOU are his accomplice. NO ONE ELSE falls for his shit any more. It's only you. You're not helping HIM by responding to his trolling, and you're hurting the forum you claim to like. It really is time for you to wise up a bit. And on another, more fundamental level, it may be time for Rick to respond to Richard trying to destroy Fairfield Life by suggesting (enforcing) his move over to The_Peak. If you actually believe he's innocent and well-meaning in the things he posts, Share, you should have no problems with him being forced to post them over there, rather than here. I think that would be great, and pretty much the ultimate "Karma, dude." I agree totally, Willy has somewhere else to go and talk to people he obviously prefers. The only reason he sticks around here is to annoy people. Trolling by definition. I support the call for him to make the shift into Jim's site, unwillingly if necessary, let them endure his company if they've accepted him. But Share is unlikely to ever reach a realistic opinion about him, I suspect he likes having her to protect and she overlooks his trolling as "zaniness" Each to their own I suppose... It used to be fun having him as our pet retard to point to whenever you wanted a wake up call about the dangers of cult delusion, but now he's the only asshole here I really think it would be for his own good not to stand out so much. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 4:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share Xeno, it sounds like you and turq are concerned about FFL and so would like me and Richard to continue discussing the porn site issue elsewhere. To that end, you would like me to take your opinions of Richard into consideration. And I think you have a good insight about how Richard and I are similar. What is strange for me about your analysis of me is that here in FF I am considered very un Pollyannish. Certainly compared to many others in FF. Some people here walk around smiling all the time, which I do not. And I tend to have an attitude of "it's all grist for the mill" and that it's a funny, old life. These are not the dominant memes of your typical FF bliss ninny! It could simply be that compared to some others on FFL I seem hyper positive. But I know myself to be grounded and certainly far from hyper positive and if FFLers knew me in person, that would be clear. This limitation of online relationships is, I think, almost always influencing how I post here. Meaning that I don't expect online relationships to be genuine friendships. I think people have to know one another in 3D life to be genuine friends. So though I care about the people here, and wish the best for everyone, I don't think any of us can know each other fully and deeply just from these online exchanges. Consequently, I don't tend to share my own journeys into the h
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Probably FFL and the Peak are the only groups that Willy hasn't been kicked off of. Most moderators would have whacked him a long time ago for cluttering their forums. On 12/02/2014 09:40 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Salyavin, a big irony for me is that now you and turq want to do to Richard, what some former members wanted to do to you two. That is, boot you out of the group! It's not really an irony because I don't post here just to annoy people. People may be annoyed at what I have to say about their beliefs etc but that's hardly my fault. I am never offended by theirs. If Willy was to man up and defend his beliefs with a reasoned argument instead of Ad Hominem attacks and his usual pathetic attempts at trolling then we'd all get along fine. But he just can't cope with the fact I am different to him and that is /his /problem not mine.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Salyavin, a big irony for me is that now you and turq want to do to Richard, what some former members wanted to do to you two. That is, boot you out of the group! It's not really an irony because I don't post here just to annoy people. People may be annoyed at what I have to say about their beliefs etc but that's hardly my fault. I am never offended by theirs. If Willy was to man up and defend his beliefs with a reasoned argument instead of Ad Hominem attacks and his usual pathetic attempts at trolling then we'd all get along fine. But he just can't cope with the fact I am different to him and that is his problem not mine. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 1:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Share, I find it interesting that Anartaxius tried to "talk some sense into you" just after I did, and with the same bottom-line request -- take it off line. Richard is USING your naivete and Pollyanna blissninnyness to FUCK UP FFL. THAT is all he's interested in doing. YOU are his accomplice. NO ONE ELSE falls for his shit any more. It's only you. You're not helping HIM by responding to his trolling, and you're hurting the forum you claim to like. It really is time for you to wise up a bit. And on another, more fundamental level, it may be time for Rick to respond to Richard trying to destroy Fairfield Life by suggesting (enforcing) his move over to The_Peak. If you actually believe he's innocent and well-meaning in the things he posts, Share, you should have no problems with him being forced to post them over there, rather than here. I think that would be great, and pretty much the ultimate "Karma, dude." I agree totally, Willy has somewhere else to go and talk to people he obviously prefers. The only reason he sticks around here is to annoy people. Trolling by definition. I support the call for him to make the shift into Jim's site, unwillingly if necessary, let them endure his company if they've accepted him. But Share is unlikely to ever reach a realistic opinion about him, I suspect he likes having her to protect and she overlooks his trolling as "zaniness" Each to their own I suppose... It used to be fun having him as our pet retard to point to whenever you wanted a wake up call about the dangers of cult delusion, but now he's the only asshole here I really think it would be for his own good not to stand out so much. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 4:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share Xeno, it sounds like you and turq are concerned about FFL and so would like me and Richard to continue discussing the porn site issue elsewhere. To that end, you would like me to take your opinions of Richard into consideration. And I think you have a good insight about how Richard and I are similar. What is strange for me about your analysis of me is that here in FF I am considered very un Pollyannish. Certainly compared to many others in FF. Some people here walk around smiling all the time, which I do not. And I tend to have an attitude of "it's all grist for the mill" and that it's a funny, old life. These are not the dominant memes of your typical FF bliss ninny! It could simply be that compared to some others on FFL I seem hyper positive. But I know myself to be grounded and certainly far from hyper positive and if FFLers knew me in person, that would be clear. This limitation of online relationships is, I think, almost always influencing how I post here. Meaning that I don't expect online relationships to be genuine friendships. I think people have to know one another in 3D life to be genuine friends. So though I care about the people here, and wish the best for everyone, I don't think any of us can know each other fully and deeply just from these online exchanges. Consequently, I don't tend to share my own journeys into the heart of darkness. Given the limits of time and attention, I am guided by the intention to be of benefit as best as I can. And to enjoy myself in the process. IMO, life is too short to do otherwise. Share, I did not listen to the Hammond event. I have been reading Curtis' reports. I am basically ignoring Hammond because I do not think he is all there. Richard however is pointlessly prolonging this thing about Barry, already long past. Like Barry has expressed, I think Richard has sucked you into his world and that you do not have sufficient discrimination to see what is happening. Barry can be m
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salyavin, a big irony for me is that now you and turq want to do to Richard, what some former members wanted to do to you two. That is, boot you out of the group! I don't think it's the best solution unless someone is making threats, exposing identities and accusing posters of current lawbreaking. And if turq's really been so unhappy because Richard's been "ragging on" him and others for almost 20 years, why the heck didn't turq do the sensible thing and start his own group?! Slight change of perspective. I'm thinking of Richard's line to MJ: YOU WILL NEVER BAKE CUPCAKES AT MIU AGAIN! Even now, 50% of the time that makes me laugh; 25% of the time I'm neutral; and 25% of the time it exasperates me. So obviously my reaction has mostly to do with my own inner state than with Richard or MJ or even cupcakes. That's why I don't believe in booting people. Except in the cases mentioned above. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 1:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Share, I find it interesting that Anartaxius tried to "talk some sense into you" just after I did, and with the same bottom-line request -- take it off line. Richard is USING your naivete and Pollyanna blissninnyness to FUCK UP FFL. THAT is all he's interested in doing. YOU are his accomplice. NO ONE ELSE falls for his shit any more. It's only you. You're not helping HIM by responding to his trolling, and you're hurting the forum you claim to like. It really is time for you to wise up a bit. And on another, more fundamental level, it may be time for Rick to respond to Richard trying to destroy Fairfield Life by suggesting (enforcing) his move over to The_Peak. If you actually believe he's innocent and well-meaning in the things he posts, Share, you should have no problems with him being forced to post them over there, rather than here. I think that would be great, and pretty much the ultimate "Karma, dude." I agree totally, Willy has somewhere else to go and talk to people he obviously prefers. The only reason he sticks around here is to annoy people. Trolling by definition. I support the call for him to make the shift into Jim's site, unwillingly if necessary, let them endure his company if they've accepted him. But Share is unlikely to ever reach a realistic opinion about him, I suspect he likes having her to protect and she overlooks his trolling as "zaniness" Each to their own I suppose... It used to be fun having him as our pet retard to point to whenever you wanted a wake up call about the dangers of cult delusion, but now he's the only asshole here I really think it would be for his own good not to stand out so much. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 4:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share Xeno, it sounds like you and turq are concerned about FFL and so would like me and Richard to continue discussing the porn site issue elsewhere. To that end, you would like me to take your opinions of Richard into consideration. And I think you have a good insight about how Richard and I are similar. What is strange for me about your analysis of me is that here in FF I am considered very un Pollyannish. Certainly compared to many others in FF. Some people here walk around smiling all the time, which I do not. And I tend to have an attitude of "it's all grist for the mill" and that it's a funny, old life. These are not the dominant memes of your typical FF bliss ninny! It could simply be that compared to some others on FFL I seem hyper positive. But I know myself to be grounded and certainly far from hyper positive and if FFLers knew me in person, that would be clear. This limitation of online relationships is, I think, almost always influencing how I post here. Meaning that I don't expect online relationships to be genuine friendships. I think people have to know one another in 3D life to be genuine friends. So though I care about the people here, and wish the best for everyone, I don't think any of us can know each other fully and deeply just from these online exchanges. Consequently, I don't tend to share my own journeys into the heart of darkness. Given the limits of time and attention, I am guided by the intention to be of benefit as best as I can. And to enjoy myself in the process. IMO, life is too short to do otherwise. Share, I did not listen to the Hammond event. I have been reading Curtis' reports. I am basically ignoring Hammond because I do not think he is all there. Richard however is pointlessly prolonging this thing about Barry, already long past. L
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On 12/2/2014 1:49 AM, salyavin808 wrote: > I agree totally, Willy has somewhere else to go and talk to people he obviously prefers. The only reason he sticks around here is to annoy people. Trolling by definition. > /It's probably too late for anyone to go to another Yahoo Group - the Dutch police and Interpol already have our IP addresses. You are on their watch list for posting that cartoon to Share of the Buddha with the "c" word caption. About the most you can do now is try to try to explain to the police and to Rick and to your own family why you posted adult material to a family oriented discussion and brought the heat down on us. Good luck./ > I support the call for him to make the shift into Jim's site, unwillingly if necessary, let them endure his company if they've accepted him. But Share is unlikely to ever reach a realistic opinion about him, I suspect he likes having her to protect and she overlooks his trolling as "zaniness" Each to their own I suppose... It used to be fun having him as our pet retard to point to whenever you wanted a wake up call about the dangers of cult delusion, but now he's the only asshole here I really think it would be for his own good not to stand out so much.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share
turq, lots of people have commented negatively on me and my posts over these 2 1/2 years. It's all grist for the mill.Meaning that it's all an opportunity to grow and heal. Obviously different people have different intentions on FFL. This is the intention that makes sense to me, to use it to enjoy and grow and heal. And help others do the same as best as I can. And I recognize that other intentions make sense to other people. From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share Sounds like you're getting a little unhappy that a couple of people have commented negatively on your posts, Share. OK, now take that feeling and multiply it by several thousand. That is how I (and to some extent Curtis and Vaj and Michael and several others here) feel. Richard has often logged 20 to 50 posts a week ragging on *each* of us. For YEARS. (In my case, approaching 20 years now.) In all that time, no attempt to reach out and actually communicate with him has worked. He clearly doesn't WANT to be communicated with -- he wants to continue fucking with the same people he's been fucking with for decades now. It is clearly all he knows how to do or is willing to do. We're tired of it. Try to wake up and smell the coffee, Share. You are one of the ONLY people on this forum who even bothers to READ anything he posts. That's not because you're more perceptive than we are; it's because you're less perceptive. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share Xeno, Curtis has posted something very cool about the Hammond event. Why not focus on replying to that and simply ignore me and Richard? Wouldn't that be more logical? From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share Maybe you should take this conversation over to the_Peak. We would prefer to discuss something more important here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Richard, your second paragraph about turq posting all the porn he wants just had me laughing my head off. Then laughing my head off at my own thought: can't wait!Obviously I've lost it, whatever it is (-: From: "'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stop The Porn, was Fairfield and M. Effect On 12/1/2014 10:32 AM, Share Longwrote: > turq, thanksfor explaining. But would it be so awful if FFL was an "adultsonly" site? > We are all adults here,Share, so it makes since to make this an adult site. That way, Barry could post all the porn he wanted to -pornographic text messages, slang words for masturbation,pirated photos of rodents humping, photo-shopped images oftransvestites, and even cartoons of Lord Buddha with gender biascaptions using the "c" word. I don't know what his problem is, he is after all the "UncleTantra" and the "TurquoiseBee." Cognitive dissonance I guess. Now he's trying to prove he's an offended prude andporn-free - as if he has never posted anything that wouldoffend. Which is kind of weird, seeing as how seven FFL membersjust quit the group because of his smutty language. Gofigure. But, you need to watch out - the lasttime Barry joked and chatted with a female on FFL,he reported her to Interpol and the Dutch police.Obviously he is monitoring our conversations. > TurquoiseB wrote: > Share, I'm going to takethe trouble to explain something to youthat it is possible you don'tunderstand, being a relative newcomer toFairfield Life. Richard'spost to Rick saying that FFL is a pornsite was *not* a joke, and *not*friendly, given events in the past. Inthat past, a disgruntled FFL poster,angered over something petty, stalkedoff in a snit and then posted somequestionable sexually-explicit photosand/or text to FFL himself, and thenwent to Yahoo Administrators to "blowthe whistle" and get them to declare FFLan "Adult Only" site. As Iunderstand it, Rick and Alex had to jumpthrough hoops to get Yahoo to understandthat this was an exercise incyberterrorism by this disgruntledasshole, and allow FFL to remain at itscurrent status. Richard made his postfully aware of this history, and thusfully aware of what he was trying toaccomplish by calling FFL a "pornsite." If you didn't knowthis, it might have been possible foryou to se
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turq, it's being said that the only reason Richard posts here is to annoy people. How is that different from your posting to push people's buttons?! It sounds like you think you have a high falutin mission and that Richard's just being annoying. Do you? It sounds like you think you're good and Richard is bad. So of course you think the solution is to get rid of Richard. I don't agree with this kind of thinking. I don't think it's psychologically healthy. I think it's just another form, albeit a very self confident form, of attempting to control reality outside rather than deal with one's inner reality. YMMV From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 6:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Share, I find it interesting that Anartaxius tried to "talk some sense into you" just after I did, and with the same bottom-line request -- take it off line. Richard is USING your naivete and Pollyanna blissninnyness to FUCK UP FFL. THAT is all he's interested in doing. YOU are his accomplice. NO ONE ELSE falls for his shit any more. It's only you. You're not helping HIM by responding to his trolling, and you're hurting the forum you claim to like. It really is time for you to wise up a bit. And on another, more fundamental level, it may be time for Rick to respond to Richard trying to destroy Fairfield Life by suggesting (enforcing) his move over to The_Peak. If you actually believe he's innocent and well-meaning in the things he posts, Share, you should have no problems with him being forced to post them over there, rather than here. I think that would be great, and pretty much the ultimate "Karma, dude." I agree totally, Willy has somewhere else to go and talk to people he obviously prefers. The only reason he sticks around here is to annoy people. Trolling by definition. That's really IT, the bottom line: "The only reason he sticks around here is to annoy people." He only has two kinds of posts -- "Here's what my trip to Costco looked like," which had an audience consisting of only Share and Ann, and "Here is something I made up about someone I don't like to try to either fuck up their reputation or make them angry enough to respond to me or both," which had an audience of zero, except in his own mind. I support the call for him to make the shift into Jim's site, unwillingly if necessary, let them endure his company if they've accepted him. But Share is unlikely to ever reach a realistic opinion about him, I suspect he likes having her to protect and she overlooks his trolling as "zaniness" Each to their own I suppose... It used to be fun having him as our pet retard to point to whenever you wanted a wake up call about the dangers of cult delusion, but now he's the only asshole here I really think it would be for his own good not to stand out so much. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 4:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share Xeno, it sounds like you and turq are concerned about FFL and so would like me and Richard to continue discussing the porn site issue elsewhere. To that end, you would like me to take your opinions of Richard into consideration. And I think you have a good insight about how Richard and I are similar.What is strange for me about your analysis of me is that here in FF I am considered very un Pollyannish. Certainly compared to many others in FF. Some people here walk around smiling all the time, which I do not. And I tend to have an attitude of "it's all grist for the mill" and that it's a funny, old life. These are not the dominant memes of your typical FF bliss ninny! It could simply be that compared to some others on FFL I seem hyper positive. But I know myself to be grounded and certainly far from hyper positive and if FFLers knew me in person, that would be clear. This limitation of online relationships is, I think, almost always influencing how I post here. Meaning that I don't expect online relationships to be genuine friendships. I think people have to know one another in 3D life to be genuine friends. So though I care about the people here, and wish the best for everyone, I don't think any of us can know each other fully and deeply just from these online exchanges. Consequently, I don't tend to share my own journeys into the heart of darkness. Given the limits of time and attention, I am guided by the intention to be of benefit as best as I can. And to enjoy myself in the process. IMO, life is too short
Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share
From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Share, I find it interesting that Anartaxius tried to "talk some sense into you" just after I did, and with the same bottom-line request -- take it off line. Richard is USING your naivete and Pollyanna blissninnyness to FUCK UP FFL. THAT is all he's interested in doing. YOU are his accomplice. NO ONE ELSE falls for his shit any more. It's only you. You're not helping HIM by responding to his trolling, and you're hurting the forum you claim to like. It really is time for you to wise up a bit. And on another, more fundamental level, it may be time for Rick to respond to Richard trying to destroy Fairfield Life by suggesting (enforcing) his move over to The_Peak. If you actually believe he's innocent and well-meaning in the things he posts, Share, you should have no problems with him being forced to post them over there, rather than here. I think that would be great, and pretty much the ultimate "Karma, dude." I agree totally, Willy has somewhere else to go and talk to people he obviously prefers. The only reason he sticks around here is to annoy people. Trolling by definition. That's really IT, the bottom line: "The only reason he sticks around here is to annoy people." He only has two kinds of posts -- "Here's what my trip to Costco looked like," which had an audience consisting of only Share and Ann, and "Here is something I made up about someone I don't like to try to either fuck up their reputation or make them angry enough to respond to me or both," which had an audience of zero, except in his own mind. I support the call for him to make the shift into Jim's site, unwillingly if necessary, let them endure his company if they've accepted him. But Share is unlikely to ever reach a realistic opinion about him, I suspect he likes having her to protect and she overlooks his trolling as "zaniness" Each to their own I suppose... It used to be fun having him as our pet retard to point to whenever you wanted a wake up call about the dangers of cult delusion, but now he's the only asshole here I really think it would be for his own good not to stand out so much. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 4:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share Xeno, it sounds like you and turq are concerned about FFL and so would like me and Richard to continue discussing the porn site issue elsewhere. To that end, you would like me to take your opinions of Richard into consideration. And I think you have a good insight about how Richard and I are similar.What is strange for me about your analysis of me is that here in FF I am considered very un Pollyannish. Certainly compared to many others in FF. Some people here walk around smiling all the time, which I do not. And I tend to have an attitude of "it's all grist for the mill" and that it's a funny, old life. These are not the dominant memes of your typical FF bliss ninny! It could simply be that compared to some others on FFL I seem hyper positive. But I know myself to be grounded and certainly far from hyper positive and if FFLers knew me in person, that would be clear. This limitation of online relationships is, I think, almost always influencing how I post here. Meaning that I don't expect online relationships to be genuine friendships. I think people have to know one another in 3D life to be genuine friends. So though I care about the people here, and wish the best for everyone, I don't think any of us can know each other fully and deeply just from these online exchanges. Consequently, I don't tend to share my own journeys into the heart of darkness. Given the limits of time and attention, I am guided by the intention to be of benefit as best as I can. And to enjoy myself in the process. IMO, life is too short to do otherwise. Share, I did not listen to the Hammond event. I have been reading Curtis' reports. I am basically ignoring Hammond because I do not think he is all there. Richard however is pointlessly prolonging this thing about Barry, already long past. Like Barry has expressed, I think Richard has sucked you into his world and that you do not have sufficient discrimination to see what is happening. Barry can be mean, no doubt of that, but Richard is wallowing in it in a very unhealthy way. FFL is for adults but not an 'adult site' in the way that term is normally pejoratively used and Richard is trying to skew the sense of what goes on here, which you seem to think is funny because you are air-headed in a good natured, but unperceptive way. I think of Richard as strangely devious. Barry is normally absolutely direct. I would much rather deal wi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share
On 12/1/2014 11:54 PM, TurquoiseBee wrote: > */Share, I find it interesting that Anartaxius tried to "talk some sense into you" just after I did, and with the same bottom-line request -- take it off line. /* */ /* */Richard is USING your naivete and Pollyanna blissninnyness to FUCK UP FFL./* > Now this is funny - /Barry reported the forum to Interpol and the Dutch Police, but Richard is using Share to //"FUCK UP FFL."/ >*/ /* */ /* */THAT is all he's interested in doing. /* */ /* */YOU are his accomplice. NO ONE ELSE falls for his shit any more. It's only you. /* */ /* */You're not helping HIM by responding to his trolling, and you're hurting the forum you claim to like. /* */ /* */It really is time for you to wise up a bit./* */ /* */And on another, more fundamental level, it may be time for Rick to respond to Richard trying to destroy Fairfield Life by suggesting (enforcing) his move over to The_Peak. If you actually believe he's innocent and well-meaning in the things he posts, Share, you should have no problems with him being forced to post them over there, rather than here. /* */ /* */I think that would be great, and pretty much the ultimate "Karma, dude." /*
Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share
Sounds like you're getting a little unhappy that a couple of people have
commented negatively on your posts, Share.
OK, now take that feeling and multiply it by several thousand.
That is how I (and to some extent Curtis and Vaj and Michael and several others
here) feel. Richard has often logged 20 to 50 posts a week ragging on *each*
of us. For YEARS. (In my case, approaching 20 years now.)
In all that time, no attempt to reach out and actually communicate with him has
worked. He clearly doesn't WANT to be communicated with -- he wants to continue
fucking with the same people he's been fucking with for decades now. It is
clearly all he knows how to do or is willing to do.
We're tired of it. Try to wake up and smell the coffee, Share. You are one of
the ONLY people on this forum who even bothers to READ anything he posts.
That's not because you're more perceptive than we are; it's because you're less
perceptive.
From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share
Xeno, Curtis has posted something very cool about the Hammond event. Why
not focus on replying to that and simply ignore me and Richard? Wouldn't that
be more logical?
From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:33 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share
Maybe you should take this conversation over to the_Peak. We would prefer
to discuss something more important here.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Richard, your second paragraph about turq posting all the porn he wants just
had me laughing my head off. Then laughing my head off at my own thought: can't
wait!Obviously I've lost it, whatever it is (-:
From: "'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stop The Porn, was Fairfield and M. Effect
On 12/1/2014 10:32 AM, Share Longwrote:
>
turq, thanksfor explaining. But would it be so awful if FFL was an "adultsonly"
site?
>
We are all adults here,Share, so it makes since to make this an adult site.
That way, Barry could post all the porn he wanted to -pornographic text
messages, slang words for masturbation,pirated photos of rodents humping,
photo-shopped images oftransvestites, and even cartoons of Lord Buddha with
gender biascaptions using the "c" word.
I don't know what his problem is, he is after all the "UncleTantra" and the
"TurquoiseBee." Cognitive dissonance I guess.
Now he's trying to prove he's an offended prude andporn-free - as if he has
never posted anything that wouldoffend. Which is kind of weird, seeing as how
seven FFL membersjust quit the group because of his smutty language. Gofigure.
But, you need to watch out - the lasttime Barry joked and chatted with a female
on FFL,he reported her to Interpol and the Dutch police.Obviously he is
monitoring our conversations.
>
TurquoiseB wrote:
>
Share, I'm going to takethe trouble to explain something to youthat it is
possible you don'tunderstand, being a relative newcomer toFairfield Life.
Richard'spost to Rick saying that FFL is a pornsite was *not* a joke, and
*not*friendly, given events in the past. Inthat past, a disgruntled FFL
poster,angered over something petty, stalkedoff in a snit and then posted
somequestionable sexually-explicit photosand/or text to FFL himself, and
thenwent to Yahoo Administrators to "blowthe whistle" and get them to declare
FFLan "Adult Only" site.
As Iunderstand it, Rick and Alex had to jumpthrough hoops to get Yahoo to
understandthat this was an exercise incyberterrorism by this
disgruntledasshole, and allow FFL to remain at itscurrent status.
Richard made his postfully aware of this history, and thusfully aware of what
he was trying toaccomplish by calling FFL a "pornsite."
If you didn't knowthis, it might have been possible foryou to see Richard's
actions as ajoke. Now that you do, I don't see howyou possibly can. He was
attempting touse the charge that FFL was a pornsite to possibly get the site
eithertaken down or moved to a much moreprohibitive status. He was being asmuch
of a cyberterrorist as theoriginal asshole was.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Share, I find it interesting that Anartaxius tried to "talk some sense into you" just after I did, and with the same bottom-line request -- take it off line. Richard is USING your naivete and Pollyanna blissninnyness to FUCK UP FFL. THAT is all he's interested in doing. YOU are his accomplice. NO ONE ELSE falls for his shit any more. It's only you. You're not helping HIM by responding to his trolling, and you're hurting the forum you claim to like. It really is time for you to wise up a bit. And on another, more fundamental level, it may be time for Rick to respond to Richard trying to destroy Fairfield Life by suggesting (enforcing) his move over to The_Peak. If you actually believe he's innocent and well-meaning in the things he posts, Share, you should have no problems with him being forced to post them over there, rather than here. I think that would be great, and pretty much the ultimate "Karma, dude." I agree totally, Willy has somewhere else to go and talk to people he obviously prefers. The only reason he sticks around here is to annoy people. Trolling by definition. I support the call for him to make the shift into Jim's site, unwillingly if necessary, let them endure his company if they've accepted him. But Share is unlikely to ever reach a realistic opinion about him, I suspect he likes having her to protect and she overlooks his trolling as "zaniness" Each to their own I suppose... It used to be fun having him as our pet retard to point to whenever you wanted a wake up call about the dangers of cult delusion, but now he's the only asshole here I really think it would be for his own good not to stand out so much. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 4:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share Xeno, it sounds like you and turq are concerned about FFL and so would like me and Richard to continue discussing the porn site issue elsewhere. To that end, you would like me to take your opinions of Richard into consideration. And I think you have a good insight about how Richard and I are similar. What is strange for me about your analysis of me is that here in FF I am considered very un Pollyannish. Certainly compared to many others in FF. Some people here walk around smiling all the time, which I do not. And I tend to have an attitude of "it's all grist for the mill" and that it's a funny, old life. These are not the dominant memes of your typical FF bliss ninny! It could simply be that compared to some others on FFL I seem hyper positive. But I know myself to be grounded and certainly far from hyper positive and if FFLers knew me in person, that would be clear. This limitation of online relationships is, I think, almost always influencing how I post here. Meaning that I don't expect online relationships to be genuine friendships. I think people have to know one another in 3D life to be genuine friends. So though I care about the people here, and wish the best for everyone, I don't think any of us can know each other fully and deeply just from these online exchanges. Consequently, I don't tend to share my own journeys into the heart of darkness. Given the limits of time and attention, I am guided by the intention to be of benefit as best as I can. And to enjoy myself in the process. IMO, life is too short to do otherwise. Share, I did not listen to the Hammond event. I have been reading Curtis' reports. I am basically ignoring Hammond because I do not think he is all there. Richard however is pointlessly prolonging this thing about Barry, already long past. Like Barry has expressed, I think Richard has sucked you into his world and that you do not have sufficient discrimination to see what is happening. Barry can be mean, no doubt of that, but Richard is wallowing in it in a very unhealthy way. FFL is for adults but not an 'adult site' in the way that term is normally pejoratively used and Richard is trying to skew the sense of what goes on here, which you seem to think is funny because you are air-headed in a good natured, but unperceptive way. I think of Richard as strangely devious. Barry is normally absolutely direct. I would much rather deal with Mr. Enlightened Flanegin than Richard because he is also direct in his clumsy and sometimes dismissive way. The only time I have seen you really sharpen up was when when you got in a huff over things Judy said to you and you responded like a normal human being. Your Pollyanna* act is hard to take sometimes. *'Pollyanna is a best-selling 1913 novel by Eleanor H. Porter. The title character is named Pollyanna Whittier, a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share
Share, I find it interesting that Anartaxius tried to "talk some sense into you" just after I did, and with the same bottom-line request -- take it off line. Richard is USING your naivete and Pollyanna blissninnyness to FUCK UP FFL. THAT is all he's interested in doing. YOU are his accomplice. NO ONE ELSE falls for his shit any more. It's only you. You're not helping HIM by responding to his trolling, and you're hurting the forum you claim to like. It really is time for you to wise up a bit. And on another, more fundamental level, it may be time for Rick to respond to Richard trying to destroy Fairfield Life by suggesting (enforcing) his move over to The_Peak. If you actually believe he's innocent and well-meaning in the things he posts, Share, you should have no problems with him being forced to post them over there, rather than here. I think that would be great, and pretty much the ultimate "Karma, dude." From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 4:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share Xeno, it sounds like you and turq are concerned about FFL and so would like me and Richard to continue discussing the porn site issue elsewhere. To that end, you would like me to take your opinions of Richard into consideration. And I think you have a good insight about how Richard and I are similar. What is strange for me about your analysis of me is that here in FF I am considered very un Pollyannish. Certainly compared to many others in FF. Some people here walk around smiling all the time, which I do not. And I tend to have an attitude of "it's all grist for the mill" and that it's a funny, old life. These are not the dominant memes of your typical FF bliss ninny! It could simply be that compared to some others on FFL I seem hyper positive. But I know myself to be grounded and certainly far from hyper positive and if FFLers knew me in person, that would be clear. This limitation of online relationships is, I think, almost always influencing how I post here. Meaning that I don't expect online relationships to be genuine friendships. I think people have to know one another in 3D life to be genuine friends. So though I care about the people here, and wish the best for everyone, I don't think any of us can know each other fully and deeply just from these online exchanges. Consequently, I don't tend to share my own journeys into the heart of darkness. Given the limits of time and attention, I am guided by the intention to be of benefit as best as I can. And to enjoy myself in the process. IMO, life is too short to do otherwise. Share, I did not listen to the Hammond event. I have been reading Curtis' reports. I am basically ignoring Hammond because I do not think he is all there. Richard however is pointlessly prolonging this thing about Barry, already long past. Like Barry has expressed, I think Richard has sucked you into his world and that you do not have sufficient discrimination to see what is happening. Barry can be mean, no doubt of that, but Richard is wallowing in it in a very unhealthy way. FFL is for adults but not an 'adult site' in the way that term is normally pejoratively used and Richard is trying to skew the sense of what goes on here, which you seem to think is funny because you are air-headed in a good natured, but unperceptive way. I think of Richard as strangely devious. Barry is normally absolutely direct. I would much rather deal with Mr. Enlightened Flanegin than Richard because he is also direct in his clumsy and sometimes dismissive way. The only time I have seen you really sharpen up was when when you got in a huff over things Judy said to you and you responded like a normal human being. Your Pollyanna* act is hard to take sometimes. *'Pollyanna is a best-selling 1913 novel by Eleanor H. Porter. The title character is named Pollyanna Whittier, a young orphan who goes to live in Beldingsville, Vermont, with her wealthy but stern and cold spinster Aunt Polly, who does not want to take in Pollyanna, but feels it is her duty to her late sister. Pollyanna's philosophy of life centers on what she calls "The Glad Game," an optimistic attitude she learned from her father. The game consists of finding something to be glad about in every situation. It originated in an incident one Christmas when Pollyanna, who was hoping for a doll in the missionary barrel, found only a pair of crutches inside. Making the game up on the spot, Pollyanna's father taught her to look at the good side of things—in this case, to be glad about the crutches because "we didn't need to use them!"' 'With this philosophy, and her own sunny personality and sincere, sympathetic sou
Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share
Another possibility, Share, is that if you are the ONLY person dumb enough to
have been taken in by Richard and respond to his crap, why not do it in email
so as not to double the amount of crap he generates on this forum.
From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share
Xeno, Curtis has posted something very cool about the Hammond event. Why
not focus on replying to that and simply ignore me and Richard? Wouldn't that
be more logical?
From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:33 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share
Maybe you should take this conversation over to the_Peak. We would prefer
to discuss something more important here.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Richard, your second paragraph about turq posting all the porn he wants just
had me laughing my head off. Then laughing my head off at my own thought: can't
wait!Obviously I've lost it, whatever it is (-:
From: "'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stop The Porn, was Fairfield and M. Effect
On 12/1/2014 10:32 AM, Share Longwrote:
>
turq, thanksfor explaining. But would it be so awful if FFL was an "adultsonly"
site?
>
We are all adults here,Share, so it makes since to make this an adult site.
That way, Barry could post all the porn he wanted to -pornographic text
messages, slang words for masturbation,pirated photos of rodents humping,
photo-shopped images oftransvestites, and even cartoons of Lord Buddha with
gender biascaptions using the "c" word.
I don't know what his problem is, he is after all the "UncleTantra" and the
"TurquoiseBee." Cognitive dissonance I guess.
Now he's trying to prove he's an offended prude andporn-free - as if he has
never posted anything that wouldoffend. Which is kind of weird, seeing as how
seven FFL membersjust quit the group because of his smutty language. Gofigure.
But, you need to watch out - the lasttime Barry joked and chatted with a female
on FFL,he reported her to Interpol and the Dutch police.Obviously he is
monitoring our conversations.
>
TurquoiseB wrote:
>
Share, I'm going to takethe trouble to explain something to youthat it is
possible you don'tunderstand, being a relative newcomer toFairfield Life.
Richard'spost to Rick saying that FFL is a pornsite was *not* a joke, and
*not*friendly, given events in the past. Inthat past, a disgruntled FFL
poster,angered over something petty, stalkedoff in a snit and then posted
somequestionable sexually-explicit photosand/or text to FFL himself, and
thenwent to Yahoo Administrators to "blowthe whistle" and get them to declare
FFLan "Adult Only" site.
As Iunderstand it, Rick and Alex had to jumpthrough hoops to get Yahoo to
understandthat this was an exercise incyberterrorism by this
disgruntledasshole, and allow FFL to remain at itscurrent status.
Richard made his postfully aware of this history, and thusfully aware of what
he was trying toaccomplish by calling FFL a "pornsite."
If you didn't knowthis, it might have been possible foryou to see Richard's
actions as ajoke. Now that you do, I don't see howyou possibly can. He was
attempting touse the charge that FFL was a pornsite to possibly get the site
eithertaken down or moved to a much moreprohibitive status. He was being asmuch
of a cyberterrorist as theoriginal asshole was.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share
not really there as
an intelligence that apprehends and ascertains. Perhaps that is why you and
Richard have linked up, because Richard does not seem to connect with anyone in
a legitimate way. I sort of see why the mean girls club ragged on you so much.
Seeing the good in everything is not the same as acting as if everything is
good and of no consequential import. Seeing the good in everything is seeing
and understanding how the universe flows and how those flows fit together, and
sometimes that means seeing into the heart of darkness, and the places in our
own mind we would rather not visit. But if we visit them consciously, we
eventually sail past them into still, imperturbable waters.
Why not do the conversation with Richard in private where it is less likely to
endanger FFL?
From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share
Xeno, Curtis has posted something very cool about the Hammond event. Why
not focus on replying to that and simply ignore me and Richard? Wouldn't that
be more logical?
From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:33 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share
Maybe you should take this conversation over to the_Peak. We would prefer
to discuss something more important here.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Richard, your second paragraph about turq posting all the porn he wants just
had me laughing my head off. Then laughing my head off at my own thought: can't
wait!Obviously I've lost it, whatever it is (-:
From: "'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stop The Porn, was Fairfield and M. Effect
On 12/1/2014 10:32 AM, Share Longwrote:
>
turq, thanksfor explaining. But would it be so awful if FFL was an "adultsonly"
site?
>
We are all adults here,Share, so it makes since to make this an adult site.
That way, Barry could post all the porn he wanted to -pornographic text
messages, slang words for masturbation,pirated photos of rodents humping,
photo-shopped images oftransvestites, and even cartoons of Lord Buddha with
gender biascaptions using the "c" word.
I don't know what his problem is, he is after all the "UncleTantra" and the
"TurquoiseBee." Cognitive dissonance I guess.
Now he's trying to prove he's an offended prude andporn-free - as if he has
never posted anything that wouldoffend. Which is kind of weird, seeing as how
seven FFL membersjust quit the group because of his smutty language. Gofigure.
But, you need to watch out - the lasttime Barry joked and chatted with a female
on FFL,he reported her to Interpol and the Dutch police.Obviously he is
monitoring our conversations.
>
TurquoiseB wrote:
>
Share, I'm going to takethe trouble to explain something to youthat it is
possible you don'tunderstand, being a relative newcomer toFairfield Life.
Richard'spost to Rick saying that FFL is a pornsite was *not* a joke, and
*not*friendly, given events in the past. Inthat past, a disgruntled FFL
poster,angered over something petty, stalkedoff in a snit and then posted
somequestionable sexually-explicit photosand/or text to FFL himself, and
thenwent to Yahoo Administrators to "blowthe whistle" and get them to declare
FFLan "Adult Only" site.
As Iunderstand it, Rick and Alex had to jumpthrough hoops to get Yahoo to
understandthat this was an exercise incyberterrorism by this
disgruntledasshole, and allow FFL to remain at itscurrent status.
Richard made his postfully aware of this history, and thusfully aware of what
he was trying toaccomplish by calling FFL a "pornsite."
If you didn't knowthis, it might have been possible foryou to see Richard's
actions as ajoke. Now that you do, I don't see howyou possibly can. He was
attempting touse the charge that FFL was a pornsite to possibly get the site
eithertaken down or moved to a much moreprohibitive status. He was being asmuch
of a cyberterrorist as theoriginal asshole was.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share
Share, I did not listen to the Hammond event. I have been reading Curtis' reports. I am basically ignoring Hammond because I do not think he is all there. Richard however is pointlessly prolonging this thing about Barry, already long past. Like Barry has expressed, I think Richard has sucked you into his world and that you do not have sufficient discrimination to see what is happening. Barry can be mean, no doubt of that, but Richard is wallowing in it in a very unhealthy way. FFL is for adults but not an 'adult site' in the way that term is normally pejoratively used and Richard is trying to skew the sense of what goes on here, which you seem to think is funny because you are air-headed in a good natured, but unperceptive way. I think of Richard as strangely devious. Barry is normally absolutely direct. I would much rather deal with Mr. Enlightened Flanegin than Richard because he is also direct in his clumsy and sometimes dismissive way. The only time I have seen you really sharpen up was when when you got in a huff over things Judy said to you and you responded like a normal human being. Your Pollyanna* act is hard to take sometimes. *'Pollyanna is a best-selling 1913 novel by Eleanor H. Porter. The title character is named Pollyanna Whittier, a young orphan who goes to live in Beldingsville, Vermont, with her wealthy but stern and cold spinster Aunt Polly, who does not want to take in Pollyanna, but feels it is her duty to her late sister. Pollyanna's philosophy of life centers on what she calls "The Glad Game," an optimistic attitude she learned from her father. The game consists of finding something to be glad about in every situation. It originated in an incident one Christmas when Pollyanna, who was hoping for a doll in the missionary barrel, found only a pair of crutches inside. Making the game up on the spot, Pollyanna's father taught her to look at the good side of things—in this case, to be glad about the crutches because "we didn't need to use them!"' 'With this philosophy, and her own sunny personality and sincere, sympathetic soul, Pollyanna brings so much gladness to her aunt's dispirited New England town that she transforms it into a pleasant place to live. The Glad Game shields her from her aunt's stern attitude: when Aunt Polly puts her in a stuffy attic room without carpets or pictures, she exults at the beautiful view from the high window; when she tries to "punish" her niece for being late to dinner by sentencing her to a meal of bread and milk in the kitchen with the servant Nancy, Pollyanna thanks her rapturously because she likes bread and milk, and she likes Nancy.' As a result, it seems like you are escaping and avoiding when people like Barry are actually trying to connect with you in a positive way. I think you are the only one here where Barry has made a real attempt to genuinely break through that Pollyanna shell you project. I almost think it frustrates him. It's like at a carnival where you throw a ball, or some rings at a target and it is rigged so almost always, the ball bounces back or the ring misses and the prize is lost. Things thrown your way bounce off, but always with the feeling of superficial and inconsequential connection, as if you are not really there as an intelligence that apprehends and ascertains. Perhaps that is why you and Richard have linked up, because Richard does not seem to connect with anyone in a legitimate way. I sort of see why the mean girls club ragged on you so much. Seeing the good in everything is not the same as acting as if everything is good and of no consequential import. Seeing the good in everything is seeing and understanding how the universe flows and how those flows fit together, and sometimes that means seeing into the heart of darkness, and the places in our own mind we would rather not visit. But if we visit them consciously, we eventually sail past them into still, imperturbable waters. Why not do the conversation with Richard in private where it is less likely to endanger FFL? From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share Xeno, Curtis has posted something very cool about the Hammond event. Why not focus on replying to that and simply ignore me and Richard? Wouldn't that be more logical? From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share Maybe you should take this conversation over to the_Peak. We would prefer to discuss something more important here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Richard, your second paragraph about turq posting all the porn he
Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share
Xeno, Curtis has posted something very cool about the Hammond event. Why not
focus on replying to that and simply ignore me and Richard? Wouldn't that be
more logical?
From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:33 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share
Maybe you should take this conversation over to the_Peak. We would prefer
to discuss something more important here.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Richard, your second paragraph about turq posting all the porn he wants just
had me laughing my head off. Then laughing my head off at my own thought: can't
wait!Obviously I've lost it, whatever it is (-:
From: "'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stop The Porn, was Fairfield and M. Effect
On 12/1/2014 10:32 AM, Share Longwrote:
>
turq, thanksfor explaining. But would it be so awful if FFL was an "adultsonly"
site?
>
We are all adults here,Share, so it makes since to make this an adult site.
That way, Barry could post all the porn he wanted to -pornographic text
messages, slang words for masturbation,pirated photos of rodents humping,
photo-shopped images oftransvestites, and even cartoons of Lord Buddha with
gender biascaptions using the "c" word.
I don't know what his problem is, he is after all the "UncleTantra" and the
"TurquoiseBee." Cognitive dissonance I guess.
Now he's trying to prove he's an offended prude andporn-free - as if he has
never posted anything that wouldoffend. Which is kind of weird, seeing as how
seven FFL membersjust quit the group because of his smutty language. Gofigure.
But, you need to watch out - the lasttime Barry joked and chatted with a female
on FFL,he reported her to Interpol and the Dutch police.Obviously he is
monitoring our conversations.
>
TurquoiseB wrote:
>
Share, I'm going to takethe trouble to explain something to youthat it is
possible you don'tunderstand, being a relative newcomer toFairfield Life.
Richard'spost to Rick saying that FFL is a pornsite was *not* a joke, and
*not*friendly, given events in the past. Inthat past, a disgruntled FFL
poster,angered over something petty, stalkedoff in a snit and then posted
somequestionable sexually-explicit photosand/or text to FFL himself, and
thenwent to Yahoo Administrators to "blowthe whistle" and get them to declare
FFLan "Adult Only" site.
As Iunderstand it, Rick and Alex had to jumpthrough hoops to get Yahoo to
understandthat this was an exercise incyberterrorism by this
disgruntledasshole, and allow FFL to remain at itscurrent status.
Richard made his postfully aware of this history, and thusfully aware of what
he was trying toaccomplish by calling FFL a "pornsite."
If you didn't knowthis, it might have been possible foryou to see Richard's
actions as ajoke. Now that you do, I don't see howyou possibly can. He was
attempting touse the charge that FFL was a pornsite to possibly get the site
eithertaken down or moved to a much moreprohibitive status. He was being asmuch
of a cyberterrorist as theoriginal asshole was.
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[FairfieldLife] Richard and Share
Maybe you should take this conversation over to the_Peak. We would prefer to discuss something more important here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Richard, your second paragraph about turq posting all the porn he wants just had me laughing my head off. Then laughing my head off at my own thought: can't wait! Obviously I've lost it, whatever it is (-: From: "'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stop The Porn, was Fairfield and M. Effect On 12/1/2014 10:32 AM, Share Long wrote: > turq, thanks for explaining. But would it be so awful if FFL was an "adults only" site? > We are all adults here, Share, so it makes since to make this an adult site. That way, Barry could post all the porn he wanted to - pornographic text messages, slang words for masturbation, pirated photos of rodents humping, photo-shopped images of transvestites, and even cartoons of Lord Buddha with gender bias captions using the "c" word. I don't know what his problem is, he is after all the "Uncle Tantra" and the "TurquoiseBee." Cognitive dissonance I guess. Now he's trying to prove he's an offended prude and porn-free - as if he has never posted anything that would offend. Which is kind of weird, seeing as how seven FFL members just quit the group because of his smutty language. Go figure. But, you need to watch out - the last time Barry joked and chatted with a female on FFL, he reported her to Interpol and the Dutch police. Obviously he is monitoring our conversations. > TurquoiseB wrote: > Share, I'm going to take the trouble to explain something to you that it is possible you don't understand, being a relative newcomer to Fairfield Life. Richard'spost to Rick saying that FFL is a porn site was *not* a joke, and *not* friendly, given events in the past. In that past, a disgruntled FFL poster, angered over something petty, stalked off in a snit and then posted some questionable sexually-explicit photos and/or text to FFL himself, and then went to Yahoo Administrators to "blow the whistle" and get them to declare FFL an "Adult Only" site. As I understand it, Rick and Alex had to jump through hoops to get Yahoo to understand that this was an exercise in cyberterrorism by this disgruntled asshole, and allow FFL to remain at its current status. Richard made his post fully aware of this history, and thus fully aware of what he was trying to accomplish by calling FFL a "porn site." If you didn't know this, it might have been possible for you to see Richard's actions as a joke. Now that you do, I don't see how you possibly can. He was attempting to use the charge that FFL was a porn site to possibly get the site either taken down or moved to a much more prohibitive status. He was being as much of a cyberterrorist as the original asshole was.
