Re: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra...
If you read on thru to the last /14 of the uncertainty blog about Deepak, there is a summary of a debate between a scientist, Sean Carroll, and Eben Alexander, MD (best selling author who claims he went to heaven in a NDE). Here is what jumped out at me: that Carroll said life is a process like fire, not a substance like wood. An obvious and simple distinction. But I think he nails the fundamental mistake in thinking. What a shift in thinking for me, especially if I substitute the big C for life. I have always mentally imagined Consciousness as a thing, even if incredibly refined, subtle, fluid, and all pervasive. I have to apply this new thought to old ideas.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra...
Sorry to throw a spanner in here Sue. There might be differences between 'local biological-consciousness' and 'non-local quantum-consciousness'. Biological consciousness is definitely a process. We still don't know what exactly is quantum consciousness if it exists. --- wayback71@... wrote : If you read on thru to the last /14 of the uncertainty blog about Deepak, there is a summary of a debate between a scientist, Sean Carroll, and Eben Alexander, MD (best selling author who claims he went to heaven in a NDE). Here is what jumped out at me: that Carroll said life is a process like fire, not a substance like wood. An obvious and simple distinction. But I think he nails the fundamental mistake in thinking. What a shift in thinking for me, especially if I substitute the big C for life. I have always mentally imagined Consciousness as a thing, even if incredibly refined, subtle, fluid, and all pervasive. I have to apply this new thought to old ideas.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra...
Nice epiphany, and rap.
Looking back on my life, I realize that I discovered LSD about the same time I
discovered surfing. So life -- or consciousness if you prefer -- has for me
always been a wave.
You don't try to define a wave. You can't. It's ever-changing, like fire.
But you can have a real shitload of fun trying to surf it. :-)
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Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra...
If you read on thru to the last /14 of the uncertainty blog about Deepak,
there is a summary of a debate between a scientist, Sean Carroll, and Eben
Alexander, MD (best selling author who claims he went to heaven in a NDE).
Here is what jumped out at me: that Carroll said life is a process like fire,
not a substance like wood. An obvious and simple distinction. But I think he
nails the fundamental mistake in thinking. What a shift in thinking for me,
especially if I substitute the big C for life. I have always mentally imagined
Consciousness as a thing, even if incredibly refined, subtle, fluid, and all
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra...
It's true on one level that everything seems to be changing, an idea which is based on sense-perception. It seems to be common-sense that changes occurs over time because that is what we perceive - motion. But, when taken to extremes we may realize that nothing changes - one thing cannot become another thing; change is impossible; things don't really move about; motion itself is just an illusion. The doctrine of non-origination, Ajativada, is the basic realization in the Advaita tradition. This means that nothing was ever created. Things do not move about - motion is an impossibility. All these notions are like seeing the horns of a hare. Gaudapada: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaudapada http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaudapada ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emily.mae50@... wrote : Reminds me of this quote: Heraclitus — 'No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man.' ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71@... wrote : If you read on thru to the last /14 of the uncertainty blog about Deepak, there is a summary of a debate between a scientist, Sean Carroll, and Eben Alexander, MD (best selling author who claims he went to heaven in a NDE). Here is what jumped out at me: that Carroll said life is a process like fire, not a substance like wood. An obvious and simple distinction. But I think he nails the fundamental mistake in thinking. What a shift in thinking for me, especially if I substitute the big C for life. I have always mentally imagined Consciousness as a thing, even if incredibly refined, subtle, fluid, and all pervasive. I have to apply this new thought to old ideas.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra...
Reminds me of this quote: Heraclitus — 'No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man.' ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71@... wrote : If you read on thru to the last /14 of the uncertainty blog about Deepak, there is a summary of a debate between a scientist, Sean Carroll, and Eben Alexander, MD (best selling author who claims he went to heaven in a NDE). Here is what jumped out at me: that Carroll said life is a process like fire, not a substance like wood. An obvious and simple distinction. But I think he nails the fundamental mistake in thinking. What a shift in thinking for me, especially if I substitute the big C for life. I have always mentally imagined Consciousness as a thing, even if incredibly refined, subtle, fluid, and all pervasive. I have to apply this new thought to old ideas.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra...
Yup, sounds like you had the breakthrough. Now everyone will try to convince you that you're wrong. Never mind them. ;-) On 04/12/2015 05:04 AM, waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: If you read on thru to the last /14 of the uncertainty blog about Deepak, there is a summary of a debate between a scientist, Sean Carroll, and Eben Alexander, MD (best selling author who claims he went to heaven in a NDE). Here is what jumped out at me: that Carroll said life is a process like fire, not a substance like wood. An obvious and simple distinction. But I think he nails the fundamental mistake in thinking. What a shift in thinking for me, especially if I substitute the big C for life. I have always mentally imagined Consciousness as a thing, even if incredibly refined, subtle, fluid, and all pervasive. I have to apply this new thought to old ideas.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra...
Is this in the link you provided? Didn't see it. Or from somewhere else? Regardless, all those words seem to boil down to one philosophy. Life is unreal. An odd thing to contemplate - I don't spend much time on any of that; seems pointless and meaningless to me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote : It's true on one level that everything seems to be changing, an idea which is based on sense-perception. It seems to be common-sense that changes occurs over time because that is what we perceive - motion. But, when taken to extremes we may realize that nothing changes - one thing cannot become another thing; change is impossible; things don't really move about; motion itself is just an illusion. The doctrine of non-origination, Ajativada, is the basic realization in the Advaita tradition. This means that nothing was ever created. Things do not move about - motion is an impossibility. All these notions are like seeing the horns of a hare. Gaudapada: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaudapada http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaudapada ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emily.mae50@... wrote : Reminds me of this quote: Heraclitus — 'No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man.' ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71@... wrote : If you read on thru to the last /14 of the uncertainty blog about Deepak, there is a summary of a debate between a scientist, Sean Carroll, and Eben Alexander, MD (best selling author who claims he went to heaven in a NDE). Here is what jumped out at me: that Carroll said life is a process like fire, not a substance like wood. An obvious and simple distinction. But I think he nails the fundamental mistake in thinking. What a shift in thinking for me, especially if I substitute the big C for life. I have always mentally imagined Consciousness as a thing, even if incredibly refined, subtle, fluid, and all pervasive. I have to apply this new thought to old ideas.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra...
Brian Cox debating Deepak Chopra would be amusing, but it would be sorta like
a normal intelligent person debating Willytex. After two minutes most people
would feel so sorry for the retard that they wouldn't really be able to enjoy
the takedowns.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Oh God, you gotta read this one about Chopra!
A Knock Out Punch!
I'm surprised that Brian Cox actually gets involved with Deepak, usually when
someone mentions woo-woo he just says pah and walks away.
I think he should do a debate with Chopra, the one DC had with Dawkins was
limited to biology - about which Deepak knows nothing - and philosophy - which
is a dead end. Chopra had his weird physics to fall back on which Dawkins isn't
an expert in and so couldn't deliver any sort of KO. Brian would be the man for
the job here and would no doubt come up with some killer quotes for future
reference.
Victor Stenger wrote a book about quantum gods but it doesn't focus enough on
Marshy's ideas to really give the TMer an unequivocal explanation about where
the idea falls down, you have to adapt it yourself and it gives a bit of wiggle
room because one could claim that it doesn't specifically say that yogic flying
doesn't cause world peace.
So bring on the debate. Maybe Lawson could organise it on Reddit?
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From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 1:44 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra...
I’ve never done anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime.
Perhaps I’ve mocked his surrealistically bizarre anti-science pronouncements
among my friends a few times, or a few thousand times. How could I not when he
tweeted that his personal meditation caused an earthquake or claimed that the
moon doesn’t exist unless someone sees it? Chopra is so on the fringe, it’s
actually fun to read him usually—picture me with tears in my eyes, emitting
cackles like Mozart’s braying laugh in Amadeus. But when he goes after
evolution, it starts to feel personal—and less amusing. Chopra believes there
is some “consciousness” that flows through the universe—an energy field created
by all living things, surrounding us and penetrating us, binding the galaxy
together…no, wait, that’s the Force I’m thinking of. Chopra’s notion of
consciousness has more in common with that of the charlatan book The Secret,
which says if you just think really hard you can change reality. (A lot of
children engage in this magical thinking, but as they mature they outgrow
it—apparently with some exceptions.)So perhaps this universal consciousness
helped Chopra sense my negative energy. At a recent conference in New Delhi he
reportedly said:
Charles Darwin was wrong. Consciousness is key to evolution and we will soon
prove that.
Why does he have to hurt my brain like this—what have I ever done to him?
Darwin “wrong”? Consciousness directing evolution? Evolution being affected by
the thinking of beings that haven’t yet evolved, in some sort of
tachyon-induced time warp? His words quantum-entangle my mind in a synergistic
charlie foxtrot of howling madness. There's more:Why Does Deepak Chopra Hate
Me? | NCSE
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anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime. | |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh God, you gotta read this one about Chopra! A Knock Out Punch! I'm surprised that Brian Cox actually gets involved with Deepak, usually when someone mentions woo-woo he just says pah and walks away. I think he should do a debate with Chopra, the one DC had with Dawkins was limited to biology - about which Deepak knows nothing - and philosophy - which is a dead end. Chopra had his weird physics to fall back on which Dawkins isn't an expert in and so couldn't deliver any sort of KO. Brian would be the man for the job here and would no doubt come up with some killer quotes for future reference. Victor Stenger wrote a book about quantum gods but it doesn't focus enough on Marshy's ideas to really give the TMer an unequivocal explanation about where the idea falls down, you have to adapt it yourself and it gives a bit of wiggle room because one could claim that it doesn't specifically say that yogic flying doesn't cause world peace. So bring on the debate. Maybe Lawson could organise it on Reddit? Superstition | Uncertainty Blog http://uncertaintyblog.com/category/superstition/ http://uncertaintyblog.com/category/superstition/ Superstition | Uncertainty Blog http://uncertaintyblog.com/category/superstition/ Posts about Superstition written by theuncertaintyblog View on uncertaintyblog.com http://uncertaintyblog.com/category/superstition/ Preview by Yahoo From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 1:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra... I’ve never done anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime. Perhaps I’ve mocked his surrealistically bizarre anti-science pronouncements among my friends a few times, or a few thousand times. How could I not when he tweeted that his personal meditation caused an earthquake http://mashable.com/2010/04/04/deepak-chopra-earthquake/ or claimed that the moon doesn’t exist http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/03/23/does-the-moon-exist/ unless someone sees it? Chopra is so on the fringe, it’s actually fun to read him usually—picture me with tears in my eyes, emitting cackles like Mozart’s braying laugh in Amadeus. But when he goes after evolution, it starts to feel personal—and less amusing. Chopra believes there is some “consciousness” that flows through the universe—an energy field created by all living things, surrounding us and penetrating us, binding the galaxy together…no, wait, that’s the Force I’m thinking of. Chopra’s notion of consciousness has more in common with that of the charlatan book The Secret, which says if you just think really hard you can change reality. (A lot of children engage in this magical thinking, but as they mature they outgrow it—apparently with some exceptions.) So perhaps this universal consciousness helped Chopra sense my negative energy. At a recent conference in New Delhi he reportedly said: Charles Darwin was wrong http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/india-today-conclave-2015-deepak-chopra-motivation-guru-author-darwin/1/423746.html. Consciousness is key to evolution and we will soon prove that. Why does he have to hurt my brain like this—what have I ever done to him? Darwin “wrong”? Consciousness directing evolution? Evolution being affected by the thinking of beings that haven’t yet evolved, in some sort of tachyon-induced time warp? His words quantum-entangle my mind in a synergistic charlie foxtrot of howling madness. There's more: Why Does Deepak Chopra Hate Me? | NCSE http://ncse.com/blog/2015/04/why-does-deepak-chopra-hate-me-0016257 http://ncse.com/blog/2015/04/why-does-deepak-chopra-hate-me-0016257 Why Does Deepak Chopra Hate Me? | NCSE http://ncse.com/blog/2015/04/why-does-deepak-chopra-hate-me-0016257 I’ve never done anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime. View on ncse.com http://ncse.com/blog/2015/04/why-does-deepak-chopra-hate-me-0016257 Preview by Yahoo
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There is no such thing as 'rational consciousness'. You are a 'cut and paste' moron. Read some real science and come back to us. --- richard@... wrote : Consciousness means self-consciousness, which cannot be identified with the human body. Acording to Sam Harris, there is nothing in the physical sciences that would indicate tht consciousness has any physical properties. Thoughts and ideas, not being material objects, cannot be perceived; they can only be inferred. Animals also possess a physical body, but not rational consciousness. If consciousness is a property of the body, it must be perceived like other material properties. But nobody can see consciousness, smell it, taste it, touch it, or even hear it. Consciousness has no physical properties that the human senses can detect or adequately describe in words. In fact, consciousness is the very constructed character of knowing - knowledge (vidya) that is structured in consciousness. This is the Hindu non-dual Advaita Vedanta view (Sri Vidya) and to the same extent, the view of Buddhist Vajrayana. In order to refute these idealist views, the debater would have to refute not only Shankara (8th century CE) Vasabandhu and Asanga (4th century CE), but also I. Kant., F. Hegel, and A. Schopenhauer - not any easy task. LoL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Brian Cox debating Deepak Chopra would be amusing, Non sequitur. but it would be sorta like a normal intelligent person debating Willytex. My position, and the position of most idealistic transcendentalists, is that we infer, from the fact of being conscious, that consciousness itself is the ultimate reality - because without consciousness, we would not exist. After two minutes most people would feel so sorry for the retard that they wouldn't really be able to enjoy the takedowns. Non sequitur. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh God, you gotta read this one about Chopra! A Knock Out Punch! I'm surprised that Brian Cox actually gets involved with Deepak, usually when someone mentions woo-woo he just says pah and walks away. I think he should do a debate with Chopra, the one DC had with Dawkins was limited to biology - about which Deepak knows nothing - and philosophy - which is a dead end. Chopra had his weird physics to fall back on which Dawkins isn't an expert in and so couldn't deliver any sort of KO. Brian would be the man for the job here and would no doubt come up with some killer quotes for future reference. Victor Stenger wrote a book about quantum gods but it doesn't focus enough on Marshy's ideas to really give the TMer an unequivocal explanation about where the idea falls down, you have to adapt it yourself and it gives a bit of wiggle room because one could claim that it doesn't specifically say that yogic flying doesn't cause world peace. So bring on the debate. Maybe Lawson could organise it on Reddit? Superstition | Uncertainty Blog http://uncertaintyblog.com/category/superstition/ http://uncertaintyblog.com/category/superstition/ Superstition | Uncertainty Blog http://uncertaintyblog.com/category/superstition/ Posts about Superstition written by theuncertaintyblog View on uncertaintyblog.com http://uncertaintyblog.com/category/superstition/ Preview by Yahoo From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 1:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra... I’ve never done anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime. Perhaps I’ve mocked his surrealistically bizarre anti-science pronouncements among my friends a few times, or a few thousand times. How could I not when he tweeted that his personal meditation caused an earthquake http://mashable.com/2010/04/04/deepak-chopra-earthquake/ or claimed that the moon doesn’t exist http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/03/23/does-the-moon-exist/ unless someone sees it? Chopra is so on the fringe, it’s actually fun to read him usually—picture me with tears in my eyes, emitting cackles like Mozart’s braying laugh in Amadeus. But when he goes after evolution, it starts to feel personal—and less amusing. Chopra believes there is some “consciousness” that flows through the universe—an energy field created by all living things, surrounding us and penetrating us, binding the galaxy together…no, wait, that’s the Force I’m thinking of. Chopra’s notion of consciousness has more in common with that of the charlatan book The Secret, which says if you just think really hard you can change reality. (A lot of children engage in this magical thinking, but as they mature they outgrow it—apparently with some
Re: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra...
Consciousness means self-consciousness, which cannot be identified with the human body. Acording to Sam Harris, there is nothing in the physical sciences that would indicate tht consciousness has any physical properties. Thoughts and ideas, not being material objects, cannot be perceived; they can only be inferred. Animals also possess a physical body, but not rational consciousness. If consciousness is a property of the body, it must be perceived like other material properties. But nobody can see consciousness, smell it, taste it, touch it, or even hear it. Consciousness has no physical properties that the human senses can detect or adequately describe in words. In fact, consciousness is the very constructed character of knowing - knowledge (vidya) that is structured in consciousness. This is the Hindu non-dual Advaita Vedanta view (Sri Vidya) and to the same extent, the view of Buddhist Vajrayana. In order to refute these idealist views, the debater would have to refute not only Shankara (8th century CE) Vasabandhu and Asanga (4th century CE), but also I. Kant., F. Hegel, and A. Schopenhauer - not any easy task. LoL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Brian Cox debating Deepak Chopra would be amusing, Non sequitur. but it would be sorta like a normal intelligent person debating Willytex. My position, and the position of most idealistic transcendentalists, is that we infer, from the fact of being conscious, that consciousness itself is the ultimate reality - because without consciousness, we would not exist. After two minutes most people would feel so sorry for the retard that they wouldn't really be able to enjoy the takedowns. Non sequitur. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh God, you gotta read this one about Chopra! A Knock Out Punch! I'm surprised that Brian Cox actually gets involved with Deepak, usually when someone mentions woo-woo he just says pah and walks away. I think he should do a debate with Chopra, the one DC had with Dawkins was limited to biology - about which Deepak knows nothing - and philosophy - which is a dead end. Chopra had his weird physics to fall back on which Dawkins isn't an expert in and so couldn't deliver any sort of KO. Brian would be the man for the job here and would no doubt come up with some killer quotes for future reference. Victor Stenger wrote a book about quantum gods but it doesn't focus enough on Marshy's ideas to really give the TMer an unequivocal explanation about where the idea falls down, you have to adapt it yourself and it gives a bit of wiggle room because one could claim that it doesn't specifically say that yogic flying doesn't cause world peace. So bring on the debate. Maybe Lawson could organise it on Reddit? Superstition | Uncertainty Blog http://uncertaintyblog.com/category/superstition/ http://uncertaintyblog.com/category/superstition/ Superstition | Uncertainty Blog http://uncertaintyblog.com/category/superstition/ Posts about Superstition written by theuncertaintyblog View on uncertaintyblog.com http://uncertaintyblog.com/category/superstition/ Preview by Yahoo From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 1:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra... I’ve never done anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime. Perhaps I’ve mocked his surrealistically bizarre anti-science pronouncements among my friends a few times, or a few thousand times. How could I not when he tweeted that his personal meditation caused an earthquake http://mashable.com/2010/04/04/deepak-chopra-earthquake/ or claimed that the moon doesn’t exist http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/03/23/does-the-moon-exist/ unless someone sees it? Chopra is so on the fringe, it’s actually fun to read him usually—picture me with tears in my eyes, emitting cackles like Mozart’s braying laugh in Amadeus. But when he goes after evolution, it starts to feel personal—and less amusing. Chopra believes there is some “consciousness” that flows through the universe—an energy field created by all living things, surrounding us and penetrating us, binding the galaxy together…no, wait, that’s the Force I’m thinking of. Chopra’s notion of consciousness has more in common with that of the charlatan book The Secret, which says if you just think really hard you can change reality. (A lot of children engage in this magical thinking, but as they mature they outgrow it—apparently with some exceptions.) So perhaps this universal consciousness helped Chopra sense my negative energy. At a recent conference in New Delhi he reportedly said: Charles
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Are you sure you even exist? Maybe you're just imagining life. :-D My experience is that there is a field that permeates everything and what everything is made of. It's like a screen which a picture is projected on. Your mileage may vary. But then maybe I don't exist either and am just imagining FFL, Sal, Turq, MJ and the rest including Chopra. On 04/10/2015 12:27 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I would say that Steven Newton must have fallen on his head from a apple tree (or it's a pen name). Poor ignorant guy needs to try some meditation and yoga probably and maybe in 15 lifetimes he'll experience enlightenment. Uh the moon doesn't exist unless someone sees it is just an existential riddle. Perhaps Steven dropped out of college too soon. :-D Actually it's something the early quantum physicists thought might be true (But did they really believe it?). The problem was the idea of the observer collapsing a waveform was taken to mean that there wasn't anything there unless there was /someone /looking at something but it's really any interference from anything, including other atoms. Take an atom away from interference and it just sits there all fuzzy like. What it might mean is that there are infinite universes all sharing atoms and we see the one we are in because everything in this universe interferes with everything else. Parallel worlds. Multiverse. Most odd - unless it's real. Or there's another explanation. But Deepak can relax, we won't suffer the disaster of the moon disappearing if everyone falls asleep or watches TV instead of one of us keeping an eye on the heavens... And quite where any of it would fit in with Deepak's ramblings is beyond me. On 04/10/2015 10:44 AM, salyavin808 wrote: I’ve never done anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime. Perhaps I’ve mocked his surrealistically bizarre anti-science pronouncements among my friends a few times, or a few thousand times. How could I not when he tweeted that his personal meditation caused an earthquake http://mashable.com/2010/04/04/deepak-chopra-earthquake/ or claimed that the moon doesn’t exist http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/03/23/does-the-moon-exist/ unless someone sees it? Chopra is so on the fringe, it’s actually fun to read him usually—picture me with tears in my eyes, emitting cackles like Mozart’s braying laugh in /Amadeus/. But when he goes after evolution, it starts to feel personal—and less amusing. Chopra believes there is some “consciousness” that flows through the universe—an energy field created by all living things, surrounding us and penetrating us, binding the galaxy together…no, wait, that’s the Force I’m thinking of. Chopra’s notion of consciousness has more in common with that of the charlatan book /The Secret/, which says if you just /think/ really hard you can change reality. (A lot of children engage in this magical thinking, but as they mature they outgrow it—apparently with some exceptions.) So perhaps this universal consciousness helped Chopra sense my negative energy. At a recent conference in New Delhi he reportedly said: Charles Darwin was wrong http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/india-today-conclave-2015-deepak-chopra-motivation-guru-author-darwin/1/423746.html. Consciousness is key to evolution and we will soon prove that. Why does he have to hurt my brain like this—what have I ever done to him? Darwin “wrong”? Consciousness directing evolution? Evolution being affected by the thinking of beings that haven’t yet evolved, in some sort of tachyon-induced time warp? His words quantum-entangle my mind in a synergistic charlie foxtrot of howling madness. There's more: Why Does Deepak Chopra Hate Me? | NCSE http://ncse.com/blog/2015/04/why-does-deepak-chopra-hate-me-0016257 image http://ncse.com/blog/2015/04/why-does-deepak-chopra-hate-me-0016257 Why Does Deepak Chopra Hate Me? | NCSE http://ncse.com/blog/2015/04/why-does-deepak-chopra-hate-me-0016257 I’ve never done anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime. View on ncse.com http://ncse.com/blog/2015/04/why-does-deepak-chopra-hate-me-0016257 Preview by Yahoo
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Are you sure you even exist? Maybe you're just imagining life. :-D My experience is that there is a field that permeates everything and what everything is made of. It's like a screen which a picture is projected on. Your mileage may vary. But then maybe I don't exist either and am just imagining FFL, Sal, Turq, MJ and the rest including Chopra. I would say your experience is more your interpretation of what you imagine your experience to be. I am fairly sure I exist in some way, and I also think everyone else does - the reason being is that there appear to be a lot of people who are more intelligent than me. If I was somehow creating reality I must be holding back things that I don't understand for other parts of my creation to invent. So either we are all really here or I'm insane or else I'm a masocist. I'm going to Occams razor this and conclude there are some people on the other end of my broadband connection talking to me! On 04/10/2015 12:27 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : I would say that Steven Newton must have fallen on his head from a apple tree (or it's a pen name). Poor ignorant guy needs to try some meditation and yoga probably and maybe in 15 lifetimes he'll experience enlightenment. Uh the moon doesn't exist unless someone sees it is just an existential riddle. Perhaps Steven dropped out of college too soon. :-D Actually it's something the early quantum physicists thought might be true (But did they really believe it?). The problem was the idea of the observer collapsing a waveform was taken to mean that there wasn't anything there unless there was someone looking at something but it's really any interference from anything, including other atoms. Take an atom away from interference and it just sits there all fuzzy like. What it might mean is that there are infinite universes all sharing atoms and we see the one we are in because everything in this universe interferes with everything else. Parallel worlds. Multiverse. Most odd - unless it's real. Or there's another explanation. But Deepak can relax, we won't suffer the disaster of the moon disappearing if everyone falls asleep or watches TV instead of one of us keeping an eye on the heavens... And quite where any of it would fit in with Deepak's ramblings is beyond me. On 04/10/2015 10:44 AM, salyavin808 wrote: I’ve never done anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime. Perhaps I’ve mocked his surrealistically bizarre anti-science pronouncements among my friends a few times, or a few thousand times. How could I not when he tweeted that his personal meditation caused an earthquake or claimed that the moon doesn’t exist unless someone sees it? Chopra is so on the fringe, it’s actually fun to read him usually—picture me with tears in my eyes, emitting cackles like Mozart’s braying laugh in Amadeus. But when he goes after evolution, it starts to feel personal—and less amusing. Chopra believes there is some “consciousness” that flows through the universe—an energy field created by all living things, surrounding us and penetrating us, binding the galaxy together…no, wait, that’s the Force I’m thinking of. Chopra’s notion of consciousness has more in common with that of the charlatan book The Secret, which says if you just think really hard you can change reality. (A lot of children engage in this magical thinking, but as they mature they outgrow it—apparently with some exceptions.) So perhaps this universal consciousness helped Chopra sense my negative energy. At a recent conference in New Delhi he reportedly said: Charles Darwin was wrong. Consciousness is key to evolution and we will soon prove that. Why does he have to hurt my brain like this—what have I ever done to him? Darwin “wrong”? Consciousness directing evolution? Evolution being affected by the thinking of beings that haven’t yet evolved, in some sort of tachyon-induced time warp? His words quantum-entangle my mind in a synergistic charlie foxtrot of howling madness. There's more: Why Does Deepak Chopra Hate Me? | NCSE Why Does Deepak Chopra Hate Me? | NCSE I’ve never done anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime. View on ncse.com Preview by Yahoo
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On 04/10/2015 01:04 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Are you sure you even exist? Maybe you're just imagining life. :-D My experience is that there is a field that permeates everything and what everything is made of. It's like a screen which a picture is projected on. Your mileage may vary. But then maybe I don't exist either and am just imagining FFL, Sal, Turq, MJ and the rest including Chopra. I would say your experience is more your interpretation of what you imagine your experience to be. So you say! But no, I don't have to imagine it any more than I have to imagine the sky. It's just there. You mean it isn't for you? Maybe you need a new mantra. :-D I am fairly sure I exist in some way, and I also think everyone else does - the reason being is that there appear to be a lot of people who are more intelligent than me. If I was somehow creating reality I must be holding back things that I don't understand for other parts of my creation to invent. So either we are all really here or I'm insane or else I'm a masocist. I'm going to Occams razor this and conclude there are some people on the other end of my broadband connection talking to me! On 04/10/2015 12:27 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : I would say that Steven Newton must have fallen on his head from a apple tree (or it's a pen name). Poor ignorant guy needs to try some meditation and yoga probably and maybe in 15 lifetimes he'll experience enlightenment. Uh the moon doesn't exist unless someone sees it is just an existential riddle. Perhaps Steven dropped out of college too soon. :-D Actually it's something the early quantum physicists thought might be true (But did they really believe it?). The problem was the idea of the observer collapsing a waveform was taken to mean that there wasn't anything there unless there was /someone /looking at something but it's really any interference from anything, including other atoms. Take an atom away from interference and it just sits there all fuzzy like. What it might mean is that there are infinite universes all sharing atoms and we see the one we are in because everything in this universe interferes with everything else. Parallel worlds. Multiverse. Most odd - unless it's real. Or there's another explanation. But Deepak can relax, we won't suffer the disaster of the moon disappearing if everyone falls asleep or watches TV instead of one of us keeping an eye on the heavens... And quite where any of it would fit in with Deepak's ramblings is beyond me. On 04/10/2015 10:44 AM, salyavin808 wrote: I’ve never done anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime. Perhaps I’ve mocked his surrealistically bizarre anti-science pronouncements among my friends a few times, or a few thousand times. How could I not when he tweeted that his personal meditation caused an earthquake http://mashable.com/2010/04/04/deepak-chopra-earthquake/ or claimed that the moon doesn’t exist http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/03/23/does-the-moon-exist/ unless someone sees it? Chopra is so on the fringe, it’s actually fun to read him usually—picture me with tears in my eyes, emitting cackles like Mozart’s braying laugh in /Amadeus/. But when he goes after evolution, it starts to feel personal—and less amusing. Chopra believes there is some “consciousness” that flows through the universe—an energy field created by all living things, surrounding us and penetrating us, binding the galaxy together…no, wait, that’s the Force I’m thinking of. Chopra’s notion of consciousness has more in common with that of the charlatan book /The Secret/, which says if you just /think/ really hard you can change reality. (A lot of children engage in this magical thinking, but as they mature they outgrow it—apparently with some exceptions.) So perhaps this universal consciousness helped Chopra sense my negative energy. At a recent conference in New Delhi he reportedly said: Charles Darwin was wrong http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/india-today-conclave-2015-deepak-chopra-motivation-guru-author-darwin/1/423746.html. Consciousness is key to evolution and we will soon prove that. Why does he have to hurt my brain like this—what have I ever done to him? Darwin “wrong”? Consciousness directing evolution? Evolution being affected by the thinking of beings that haven’t yet evolved, in some sort of tachyon-induced time warp? His words quantum-entangle my mind in a synergistic charlie foxtrot of howling madness. There's more: Why Does Deepak Chopra Hate Me? | NCSE http://ncse.com/blog/2015/04/why-does-deepak-chopra-hate-me-0016257
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 04/10/2015 01:04 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Are you sure you even exist? Maybe you're just imagining life. :-D My experience is that there is a field that permeates everything and what everything is made of. It's like a screen which a picture is projected on. Your mileage may vary. But then maybe I don't exist either and am just imagining FFL, Sal, Turq, MJ and the rest including Chopra. I would say your experience is more your interpretation of what you imagine your experience to be. So you say! But no, I don't have to imagine it any more than I have to imagine the sky. It's just there. You mean it isn't for you? Maybe you need a new mantra. :-D Like the sky, my conscious experience needs an explanation. The difference here is that my prefered explanation doesn't involve anything mystical or unified. Our experience of the sky is probably the same but we just have different ascribations for what happens subjectively. Cool, I invented another new word! On 04/10/2015 12:27 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : I would say that Steven Newton must have fallen on his head from a apple tree (or it's a pen name). Poor ignorant guy needs to try some meditation and yoga probably and maybe in 15 lifetimes he'll experience enlightenment. Uh the moon doesn't exist unless someone sees it is just an existential riddle. Perhaps Steven dropped out of college too soon. :-D Actually it's something the early quantum physicists thought might be true (But did they really believe it?). The problem was the idea of the observer collapsing a waveform was taken to mean that there wasn't anything there unless there was someone looking at something but it's really any interference from anything, including other atoms. Take an atom away from interference and it just sits there all fuzzy like. What it might mean is that there are infinite universes all sharing atoms and we see the one we are in because everything in this universe interferes with everything else. Parallel worlds. Multiverse. Most odd - unless it's real. Or there's another explanation. But Deepak can relax, we won't suffer the disaster of the moon disappearing if everyone falls asleep or watches TV instead of one of us keeping an eye on the heavens... And quite where any of it would fit in with Deepak's ramblings is beyond me. On 04/10/2015 10:44 AM, salyavin808 wrote: I’ve never done anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime. Perhaps I’ve mocked his surrealistically bizarre anti-science pronouncements among my friends a few times, or a few thousand times. How could I not when he tweeted that his personal meditation caused an earthquake or claimed that the moon doesn’t exist unless someone sees it? Chopra is so on the fringe, it’s actually fun to read him usually—picture me with tears in my eyes, emitting cackles like Mozart’s braying laugh in Amadeus. But when he goes after evolution, it starts to feel personal—and less amusing. Chopra believes there is some “consciousness” that flows through the universe—an energy field created by all living things, surrounding us and penetrating us, binding the galaxy together…no, wait, that’s the Force I’m thinking of. Chopra’s notion of consciousness has more in common with that of the charlatan book The Secret, which says if you just think really hard you can change reality. (A lot of children engage in this magical thinking, but as they mature they outgrow it—apparently with some exceptions.) So perhaps this universal consciousness helped Chopra sense my negative energy. At a recent conference in New Delhi he reportedly said: Charles Darwin was wrong. Consciousness is key to evolution and we will soon prove that. Why does he have to hurt my brain like this—what have I ever done to him? Darwin “wrong”? Consciousness directing evolution? Evolution being affected by the thinking of beings that haven’t yet evolved, in some sort of tachyon-induced time warp? His words quantum-entangle my mind in a synergistic charlie foxtrot of howling madness. There's more: Why Does Deepak Chopra Hate Me? | NCSE Why Does Deepak Chopra Hate Me? | NCSE I’ve never done anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime. View on ncse.com Preview by Yahoo
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If consciousness means self-consciousness, then it cannot be identified by logic with the human body. Animals also possess a physical body, but not rational consciousness. If consciousness is a property of the body, it must be perceived like other material properties. That's what I figure - it's not complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I would say that Steven Newton must have fallen on his head from a apple tree (or it's a pen name). Poor ignorant guy needs to try some meditation and yoga probably and maybe in 15 lifetimes he'll experience enlightenment. Non sequitur. Uh the moon doesn't exist unless someone sees it is just an existential riddle. Consciousness is neither seen, smelled, tasted, touched or heard. Consciousness is private and cannot be shared by others - it is the very constructed character of knowing - knowledge is structured in consciousness. This is the Hindu non-dual Advaita Vedanta and to the same extent, the view of the Consciousness Only School of Tibetan Buddhism. Perhaps Steven dropped out of college too soon. :-D Non sequitur. On 04/10/2015 10:44 AM, salyavin808 wrote: I’ve never done anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime. Perhaps I’ve mocked his surrealistically bizarre anti-science pronouncements among my friends a few times, or a few thousand times. How could I not when he tweeted that his personal meditation caused an earthquake or claimed that the moon doesn’t exist http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/03/23/does-the-moon-exist/ unless someone sees it? Chopra is so on the fringe, it’s actually fun to read him usually—picture me with tears in my eyes, emitting cackles like Mozart’s braying laugh in Amadeus. But when he goes after evolution, it starts to feel personal—and less amusing. Chopra believes there is some “consciousness” that flows through the universe—an energy field created by all living things, surrounding us and penetrating us, binding the galaxy together…no, wait, that’s the Force I’m thinking of. Chopra’s notion of consciousness has more in common with that of the charlatan book The Secret, which says if you just think really hard you can change reality. (A lot of children engage in this magical thinking, but as they mature they outgrow it—apparently with some exceptions.) So perhaps this universal consciousness helped Chopra sense my negative energy. At a recent conference in New Delhi he reportedly said: Charles Darwin was wrong. Consciousness is key to evolution and we will soon prove that. Why does he have to hurt my brain like this—what have I ever done to him? Darwin “wrong”? Consciousness directing evolution? Evolution being affected by the thinking of beings that haven’t yet evolved, in some sort of tachyon-induced time warp? His words quantum-entangle my mind in a synergistic charlie foxtrot of howling madness. There's more: Why Does Deepak Chopra Hate Me? | NCSE Why Does Deepak Chopra Hate Me? | NCSE I’ve never done anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime. View on ncse.com Preview by Yahoo
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My position, and the position of Chopra, and most idealistic transcendentalists, is that we infer, from the fact of being self-conscious, that consciousness itself is the ultimate reality - because without consciousness, we would not exist. It's not complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I would say that Steven Newton must have fallen on his head from a apple tree (or it's a pen name). Poor ignorant guy needs to try some meditation and yoga probably and maybe in 15 lifetimes he'll experience enlightenment. Uh the moon doesn't exist unless someone sees it is just an existential riddle. Perhaps Steven dropped out of college too soon. :-D ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sa...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Actually it's something the early quantum physicists thought might be true (But did they really believe it?). The material world is a false projection or superimposition upon pure consciousness which is the real. Like I.Kant, we accept that inference is a valid means of knowledge. Thoughts and ideas, not being material objects, cannot be perceived; they can only be inferred or in some cases, intuited by using logic. The problem was the idea of the observer collapsing a waveform was taken to mean that there wasn't anything there unless there was someone looking at something but it's really any interference from anything, including other atoms. Take an atom away from interference and it just sits there all fuzzy like. Non sequitur. What it might mean is that there are infinite universes all sharing atoms and we see the one we are in because everything in this universe interferes with everything else. Parallel worlds. Multiverse. Most odd - unless it's real. Or there's another explanation. Non sequitur. But Deepak can relax, we won't suffer the disaster of the moon disappearing if everyone falls asleep or watches TV instead of one of us keeping an eye on the heavens... Non sequitur. And quite where any of it would fit in with Deepak's ramblings is beyond me. On 04/10/2015 10:44 AM, salyavin808 wrote: I’ve never done anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime. Perhaps I’ve mocked his surrealistically bizarre anti-science pronouncements among my friends a few times, or a few thousand times. How could I not when he tweeted that his personal meditation caused an earthquake or claimed that the moon doesn’t exist http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/03/23/does-the-moon-exist/ unless someone sees it? Chopra is so on the fringe, it’s actually fun to read him usually—picture me with tears in my eyes, emitting cackles like Mozart’s braying laugh in Amadeus. But when he goes after evolution, it starts to feel personal—and less amusing. Chopra believes there is some “consciousness” that flows through the universe—an energy field created by all living things, surrounding us and penetrating us, binding the galaxy together…no, wait, that’s the Force I’m thinking of. Chopra’s notion of consciousness has more in common with that of the charlatan book The Secret, which says if you just think really hard you can change reality. (A lot of children engage in this magical thinking, but as they mature they outgrow it—apparently with some exceptions.) So perhaps this universal consciousness helped Chopra sense my negative energy. At a recent conference in New Delhi he reportedly said: Charles Darwin was wrong. Consciousness is key to evolution and we will soon prove that. Why does he have to hurt my brain like this—what have I ever done to him? Darwin “wrong”? Consciousness directing evolution? Evolution being affected by the thinking of beings that haven’t yet evolved, in some sort of tachyon-induced time warp? His words quantum-entangle my mind in a synergistic charlie foxtrot of howling madness. There's more: Why Does Deepak Chopra Hate Me? | NCSE Why Does Deepak Chopra Hate Me? | NCSE I’ve never done anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime. View on ncse.com Preview by Yahoo
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra...
I’ve never done anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime.
Perhaps I’ve mocked his surrealistically bizarre anti-science pronouncements
among my friends a few times, or a few thousand times. How could I not when he
tweeted that his personal meditation caused an earthquake or claimed that the
moon doesn’t exist unless someone sees it? Chopra is so on the fringe, it’s
actually fun to read him usually—picture me with tears in my eyes, emitting
cackles like Mozart’s braying laugh in Amadeus. But when he goes after
evolution, it starts to feel personal—and less amusing. Chopra believes there
is some “consciousness” that flows through the universe—an energy field created
by all living things, surrounding us and penetrating us, binding the galaxy
together…no, wait, that’s the Force I’m thinking of. Chopra’s notion of
consciousness has more in common with that of the charlatan book The Secret,
which says if you just think really hard you can change reality. (A lot of
children engage in this magical thinking, but as they mature they outgrow
it—apparently with some exceptions.)So perhaps this universal consciousness
helped Chopra sense my negative energy. At a recent conference in New Delhi he
reportedly said:
Charles Darwin was wrong. Consciousness is key to evolution and we will soon
prove that.
Why does he have to hurt my brain like this—what have I ever done to him?
Darwin “wrong”? Consciousness directing evolution? Evolution being affected by
the thinking of beings that haven’t yet evolved, in some sort of
tachyon-induced time warp? His words quantum-entangle my mind in a synergistic
charlie foxtrot of howling madness. There's more:Why Does Deepak Chopra Hate
Me? | NCSE
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Can anyone post any logical proof that there was once a Big Bang, proving that the universe was once in a very high density state and then it exploded from a singularity. Thanks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh God, you gotta read this one about Chopra! Superstition | Uncertainty Blog http://uncertaintyblog.com/category/superstition/ http://uncertaintyblog.com/category/superstition/ Superstition | Uncertainty Blog http://uncertaintyblog.com/category/superstition/ Posts about Superstition written by theuncertaintyblog View on uncertaintyblog.com http://uncertaintyblog.com/category/superstition/ Preview by Yahoo From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 1:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra... I’ve never done anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime. Perhaps I’ve mocked his surrealistically bizarre anti-science pronouncements among my friends a few times, or a few thousand times. How could I not when he tweeted that his personal meditation caused an earthquake http://mashable.com/2010/04/04/deepak-chopra-earthquake/ or claimed that the moon doesn’t exist http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/03/23/does-the-moon-exist/ unless someone sees it? Chopra is so on the fringe, it’s actually fun to read him usually—picture me with tears in my eyes, emitting cackles like Mozart’s braying laugh in Amadeus. But when he goes after evolution, it starts to feel personal—and less amusing. Chopra believes there is some “consciousness” that flows through the universe—an energy field created by all living things, surrounding us and penetrating us, binding the galaxy together…no, wait, that’s the Force I’m thinking of. Chopra’s notion of consciousness has more in common with that of the charlatan book The Secret, which says if you just think really hard you can change reality. (A lot of children engage in this magical thinking, but as they mature they outgrow it—apparently with some exceptions.) So perhaps this universal consciousness helped Chopra sense my negative energy. At a recent conference in New Delhi he reportedly said: Charles Darwin was wrong http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/india-today-conclave-2015-deepak-chopra-motivation-guru-author-darwin/1/423746.html. Consciousness is key to evolution and we will soon prove that. Why does he have to hurt my brain like this—what have I ever done to him? Darwin “wrong”? Consciousness directing evolution? Evolution being affected by the thinking of beings that haven’t yet evolved, in some sort of tachyon-induced time warp? His words quantum-entangle my mind in a synergistic charlie foxtrot of howling madness. There's more: Why Does Deepak Chopra Hate Me? | NCSE http://ncse.com/blog/2015/04/why-does-deepak-chopra-hate-me-0016257 http://ncse.com/blog/2015/04/why-does-deepak-chopra-hate-me-0016257 Why Does Deepak Chopra Hate Me? | NCSE http://ncse.com/blog/2015/04/why-does-deepak-chopra-hate-me-0016257 I’ve never done anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime. View on ncse.com http://ncse.com/blog/2015/04/why-does-deepak-chopra-hate-me-0016257 Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh God, you gotta read this one about Chopra! Superstition | Uncertainty Blog http://uncertaintyblog.com/category/superstition/ http://uncertaintyblog.com/category/superstition/ Superstition | Uncertainty Blog http://uncertaintyblog.com/category/superstition/ Posts about Superstition written by theuncertaintyblog View on uncertaintyblog.com http://uncertaintyblog.com/category/superstition/ Preview by Yahoo From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 1:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra... I’ve never done anything to Deepak Chopra. At least, not in this lifetime. Perhaps I’ve mocked his surrealistically bizarre anti-science pronouncements among my friends a few times, or a few thousand times. How could I not when he tweeted that his personal meditation caused an earthquake http://mashable.com/2010/04/04/deepak-chopra-earthquake/ or claimed that the moon doesn’t exist http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/03/23/does-the-moon-exist/ unless someone sees it? Chopra is so on the fringe, it’s actually fun to read him usually—picture me with tears in my eyes, emitting cackles like Mozart’s braying laugh in Amadeus. But when he goes after evolution, it starts to feel personal—and less amusing. Chopra believes there is some “consciousness” that flows through the universe—an energy field created by all living things, surrounding us and penetrating us, binding the galaxy together…no, wait, that’s the Force I’m thinking of. Chopra’s notion of consciousness
