[FairfieldLife] What do the Pandits get paid compared to the minimum wage in India?

2014-03-20 Thread LEnglish5
According to wikipedia, 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_wages_by_country#Countries 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_wages_by_country#Countries the 
pandits are getting paid about 4-6x the minimum wage for someone living in 
India: $689/year. 

 I figure that because the minimum wage figure on wikipedia includes 
requirements for room and board, which are free for the Pandits while they are 
staying in the USA.
 

 They get paid $6.60/day + room and board, which is nearly 2x the minimum wage 
of 118 rupees ($2.18) per day in Bihar to 185 rupees ($3.40) per day in Haryana 
(with local cost of living allowance included).
 

 Assume that room and board is 1/2 your income, and the Pandit's income works 
out to 6x the minimum wage in Bihar and 4x the minimum wage in Haryana.
 

 

 Not the highest wage, but by no means exploitation, either.
 

 

 



Re: [FairfieldLife] What do the Pandits get paid compared to the minimum wage in India?

2014-03-20 Thread TurquoiseBee
Don't you *ever* get tired of being an apologist for the TM movement, Lawson?

Your figures below are calculated on the basis of them being paid $200 per 
month. 

They aren't. They are paid $50 a month. 

The other $150 goes to their parents, who *sold them into this program in the 
first place*, and ONLY IF they complete their three-year contract. 

The pandits never see a penny of that $150. So your apologetics below are all 
based on a LIE.

It's a GOOD DEAL for the parents to sell their children into this kind of 
slavery. The average monthly income in India is $94. They get $150, plus one 
less mouth to feed.

Meanwhile the TMO charges thousands to tens of thousands of dollars for each of 
the yagyas performed by these indentured servants, and pays them (using your 
calculations below, only with the correct base figure) $1.66 per day, not 
$6.60. 


Shame on you for helping to perpetuate this scam, Lawson, and for supporting 
what can only be described as a modern form of slavery.




 From: lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:40 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] What do the Pandits get paid compared to the minimum 
wage in India?
 


  
According to wikipedia, 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_wages_by_country#Countries the 
pandits are getting paid about 4-6x the minimum wage for someone living in 
India: $689/year.

I figure that because the minimum wage figure on wikipedia includes 
requirements for room and board, which are free for the Pandits while they are 
staying in the USA.

They get paid $6.60/day + room and board, which is nearly 2x the minimum wage 
of 118 rupees ($2.18) per day in Bihar to 185 rupees ($3.40) per day in Haryana 
(with local cost of living allowance included).

Assume that room and board is 1/2 your income, and the Pandit's income works 
out to 6x the minimum wage in Bihar and 4x the minimum wage in Haryana.


Not the highest wage, but by no means exploitation, either.





Re: [FairfieldLife] What do the Pandits get paid compared to the minimum wage in India?

2014-03-20 Thread Michael Jackson
Agreed and I would point out two other things -

One, there was someone a few weeks ago who made a post saying they had worked 
with the pundits in Vlodrop and knew very well their problems When I asked what 
those problems were, the person replied that the TMO NEVER kept its promises to 
the pundits, specifically about money - the one example he gave was one who had 
family in India who needed the money who complained so much they finally paid 
him - in Raams.

Two - the rationale for the TMO asking for major donations for the pundits to 
do a national yagya for Great Britain so they could prevent any further natural 
disasters. Since the pundits already live and work in TMO facilities where they 
have everything they need, why  would they need to collect up $100,000.00 to be 
able to do the yagya? The pundits don't get any of that money, they are already 
onsite, doing yagya - why would the TMO refrain from doing what was needful for 
England till they had that much money in hand? If you believe that yagya can 
actually have the effect intended, it surely seems like extortion at best. And 
people wonder why I take issue with the TM Movement?

On Thu, 3/20/14, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] What do the Pandits get paid compared to the 
minimum wage in India?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, March 20, 2014, 8:59 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Don't you *ever* get tired of being an apologist
 for the TM movement, Lawson?
 
 Your figures below are calculated on the basis
 of them being paid $200 per month. 
 
 They aren't. They are paid $50 a month. 
 
 The other $150 goes to their parents, who *sold them into
 this program in the first place*, and ONLY IF they complete
 their three-year contract. 
 
 The pandits never see a penny of that $150. So your
 apologetics below are all based on a LIE.
 
 It's a GOOD DEAL for the parents to sell their children
 into this kind of slavery. The average monthly income in
 India is $94. They get $150, plus one less mouth to feed.
 
 Meanwhile the TMO
 charges thousands to
  tens of thousands of dollars for each of the yagyas
 performed by these indentured servants, and pays them
 (using your calculations below, only with the correct base
 figure) $1.66 per day, not $6.60. 
 
 Shame on you for helping to perpetuate this scam,
 Lawson, and for supporting what can only be described as a
 modern form of slavery.
 

 From:
 lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net
  To:
 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent:
 Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:40 AM
  Subject:
 [FairfieldLife] What do the Pandits get paid compared to the
 minimum wage in India?

 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   According to wikipedia, 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_wages_by_country#Countries the
 pandits are getting paid about 4-6x the minimum wage for
 someone living in India: $689/year.
 I figure that because the minimum
 wage figure on wikipedia includes requirements for room and
 board, which are free for the Pandits while they are staying
 in the USA.
 They get
 paid $6.60/day + room and board, which is nearly 2x the
 minimum wage of 118 rupees ($2.18) per day in
 Bihar to 185 rupees ($3.40) per day in Haryana (with local
 cost of living allowance
 included).
 Assume
 that room and board is 1/2 your income, and the Pandit's
 income works out to 6x the minimum wage in Bihar and 4x the
 minimum wage in Haryana.
 
 Not the highest wage, but by
 no means exploitation, either.
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] What do the Pandits get paid compared to the minimum wage in India?

2014-03-20 Thread authfriend
Of course it isn't a LIE. Put on your Big Boy pants, Barry, and stop acting 
like a three-year-old having a tantrum. The pandits are paid $200/month, $150 
of which is sent to their family in India. The family wouldn't be getting any 
money if the pandits weren't earning it. (DUH) Lawson's calculations are 
entirely legitimate. 

 

 Don't you *ever* get tired of being an apologist for the TM movement, Lawson? 
Your figures below are calculated on the basis of them being paid $200 per 
month. 

They aren't. They are paid $50 a month. 

The other $150 goes to their parents, who *sold them into this program in the 
first place*, and ONLY IF they complete their three-year contract. 

The pandits never see a penny of that $150. So your apologetics below are all 
based on a LIE.
 







 



Re: [FairfieldLife] What do the Pandits get paid compared to the minimum wage in India?

2014-03-20 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/20/2014 6:22 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
 And people wonder why I take issue with the TM Movement?
 
Apparently your life is so empty and your mind is so small that you 
resort to
bullshit. Go figure.

I've been there, done that.  I wrote a whole story in my book about my
feelings for the anti-cultists of the world and their mindset. (It's at
http://ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/rtm51.html for anyone who is interested.)

In that story, I hope I expressed the level of my disdain for those whose
life is so empty and whose minds are so small that they have to resort to
such measures, and in the last line of the story I invoke an old and power-
ful mantra.  To forestall any need to deal with your adolescent bullshit
in the future, I invoke it here against you, in its acronym form so as not
to offend those with gentle sensibilities:  FEITCTAJ- Uncle Tantra